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Title: Re: Jay's Back Double Bicep Pose
Post by: Brutal_1 on September 29, 2009, 08:32:31 AM



Not having to stand next to Ronnie this year, i'm sure his back wasn't his priority.
Title: Re: Jay's Back Double Bicep Pose
Post by: affeman on September 29, 2009, 08:37:48 AM
Well, Jay is around 60 pds heavier than Arnold lol.

The 90s were da place to be, where people killed themselves to get in shape. You don't see backs like that on todays pro stages. ???
Title: Re: Jay's Back Double Bicep Pose
Post by: sculpture on September 29, 2009, 08:47:38 AM
Well, Jay is around 60 pds heavier than Arnold lol.

The 90s were da place to be, where people killed themselves to get in shape. You don't see backs like that on todays pro stages. ???

dexter jackson's bdb is actually reminiscent of this shot
Title: Re: Jay's Back Double Bicep Pose
Post by: bigbobs on September 29, 2009, 08:53:15 AM
Like I said yesterday which got ND in a hissyfit - from the back Jay and Nasser are comparable, and from the front Nasser blows him away.  Therefore, overall Nasser wins
Title: Re: Jay's Back Double Bicep Pose
Post by: Hulkster on September 29, 2009, 08:56:37 AM


Not having to stand next to Ronnie this year, i'm sure his back wasn't his priority.

true.
Title: Re: Jay's Back Double Bicep Pose
Post by: spinnis on September 29, 2009, 09:17:26 AM
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t224/SimplyHuge/m387.jpg)(http://i36.tinypic.com/4sl11j.jpg)

with both the same "sharpened" people always forget the old cam,eras made them look better

Title: Re: Jay's Back Double Bicep Pose
Post by: aliamini on September 29, 2009, 09:36:08 AM
this is what i said last year:


Jay is definitely going wrong with the blood type diet … which I still don’t understand how “Supposedly” smart people in the world of contest prep get convinced with that … to me still his ironman 03 was the best shape … might be the lighting but even in 03 olympia he looked very good … but that year Ronnie was just dominant … 2 weeks out of the ASC04 he looked phenomenal and I thought he might get it right this time … but no … I think he over dieted … cause 2 weex out he looked better than 01 … just needed to drop some water … after that point he changed his training routine and went more to more of a Ronnie approach as far as intervals, reps and splits were concerned … in 01 he had a very weak back  which he managed to improve a bit (width and thickness) but again he can’t change the shape of his back lines and details … so no matter what he does he can’t match Coleman or Yates

I think everyone was expecting too much from Wolf/chad … might be that what they did didn’t work or that Ronnie and flex was just too gifted that any diet would have worked and didn’t need anything besides basic for contest prep instruction … which a lot of guys are lacking these days and this is why I think that bodies don’t look like before … everyone know that you have to stop most supplements (or even all, specially Protein Powder) a week out or more … yet you see top 10 guys using protein powder 1 day out … even if a guy looks good … some Olympia runner-ups use to drink regular Pepsi before getting on stage … which is wrong (do u think you will fill with Fructose??) + carbonated water … y would u do that … but they looked good enough to be a runner up … so other might think that is the right way … where if you know how the body and each nutrient work in it you would know that it is a very bad choice (so is ice cream)

I do agree that phil has a narrow structure … but if he is the best and the guys with broad shoulders cant out muscle him or match his condition … why would you place him behind the wide guy and blame it on him being narrow … if you had a guy similar to phil (muscularity, condition and symmetry) and had a broader shoulder than ok … so to me for phil anything less than 2nd place was an upset … and guess what … I was upset … haters would have complained if he had won … but guess what … so did they when Ronnie and dorian won so many times … to me ronnie and dorian deserved all the Olympia that they won (94 might be controversial but either way it was fare to some extend) and I think coleman should have won in 06

Victor and kai would have definitely been in the top 6 … victor could have won this year if he should up like last year … and I think he will win it next year

that's my 2 cents ... if it makes any sense
Title: Re: Jay's Back Double Bicep Pose
Post by: Stark on September 29, 2009, 09:39:52 AM
no christmas tree
Title: Re: Jay's Back Double Bicep Pose
Post by: burn2live on September 29, 2009, 10:53:35 AM
It looks like a lot of loose skin. Looks to me like the massive bulks just leave you with those wrinkles which show when you're lean
Title: Re: Jay's Back Double Bicep Pose
Post by: The_Hammer on September 29, 2009, 12:25:08 PM
(http://i33.tinypic.com/ohjs4x.jpg)
Title: Re: Jay's Back Double Bicep Pose
Post by: Brutal_1 on September 29, 2009, 02:54:13 PM
all bodyparts are priorities, and so is conditioning regardless of who you are competing against.  why post such thoughtless arguments?


Lol who's arguing  ::)

"all bodyparts are priorities"........do you know what the word "priority" means  ;D
Title: Re: Jay's Back Double Bicep Pose
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 29, 2009, 02:56:22 PM
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t224/SimplyHuge/m387.jpg)(http://i36.tinypic.com/4sl11j.jpg)

with both the same "sharpened" people always forget the old cam,eras made them look better



Hulkster knows all about sharpened pics
Title: Re: Jay's Back Double Bicep Pose
Post by: Hulkster on September 29, 2009, 02:58:45 PM
Hulkster knows all about sharpened pics



 ::)

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=230546.0

everyone can see that ND was busted posting sharpened pics of his ivory sperm supplier :-X
Title: Re: Jay's Back Double Bicep Pose
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 29, 2009, 03:00:52 PM


 ::)

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=230546.0

everyone can see that ND was busted posting sharpened pics of his ivory sperm supplier :-X

meltdown  ;)

Title: Re: Jay's Back Double Bicep Pose
Post by: Hulkster on September 29, 2009, 03:02:21 PM
Hulkster knows all about sharpened pics

nope, sorry:

http://www.flexonline.com/mro/final_men_bb/pages/ddd0113.html

legit pic.
Title: Re: Jay's Back Double Bicep Pose
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 29, 2009, 03:03:48 PM
Hulkster busted long ago knowingly using sharpened pics by the best contest photogragher in the business  ;D
Title: Re: Jay's Back Double Bicep Pose
Post by: affeman on September 29, 2009, 03:04:26 PM
Is ther supposed to be a difference between left and right?? ???

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=300027.0;attach=341728;image)
Title: Re: Jay's Back Double Bicep Pose
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 29, 2009, 03:05:37 PM
nope, sorry:

http://www.flexonline.com/mro/final_men_bb/pages/ddd0113.html

legit pic.

Pic's legit albeit SHARPENED the guy who sharpened said so  ;)
Title: Re: Jay's Back Double Bicep Pose
Post by: Hulkster on September 29, 2009, 03:05:55 PM
Hulkster busted long ago knowingly using sharpened pics by the best contest photogragher in the business  ;D

yes, because Kevin (a dorian supporter) says they are sharpened (convieniently when posted in a dorian vs ronnie thread ::)) that means they must be.. LOL

 ::)

the nuthuggers always have far fetched enhancement/sharpened pic theories to give when the visuals show Ronnie is better than dorian.. ::)

how convenient, wouldn't you say?  ::)
Title: Re: Jay's Back Double Bicep Pose
Post by: Hulkster on September 29, 2009, 03:06:39 PM
Pic's legit albeit SHARPENED the guy who sharpened said so but he is a dorian supporter so he had to say something to save Doz  ;)

fixed. :P
Title: Re: Jay's Back Double Bicep Pose
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 29, 2009, 03:10:00 PM
Is ther supposed to be a difference between left and right?? ???

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=300027.0;attach=341728;image)

open it the difference is more noticeable and looks nothing like the original  ;D
Title: Re: Jay's Back Double Bicep Pose
Post by: delta9mda on September 29, 2009, 03:12:57 PM
(http://i33.tinypic.com/ohjs4x.jpg)
MR OLYMPIA 2009 right there
Title: Re: Jay's Back Double Bicep Pose
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 29, 2009, 03:13:12 PM
fixed. :P

You're a LIAR he never took side on the ' debate '
Title: Re: Jay's Back Double Bicep Pose
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 29, 2009, 03:16:02 PM
yes, because Kevin (a dorian supporter) says they are sharpened (convieniently when posted in a dorian vs ronnie thread ::)) that means they must be.. LOL

 ::)

the nuthuggers always have far fetched enhancement/sharpened pic theories to give when the visuals show Ronnie is better than dorian.. ::)

how convenient, wouldn't you say?  ::)

Sucks you're reduced to lying again huh? I dare you to show me where he ever supported Dorian over Ronnie , in fact he's gone on record as saying both were awesome and never took a side sorry liar busted again

You're busted again for knowingly using photoshopped pics to try and portray Ronnie in a fashion that wasn't accurate , you need to work pics in order to ' prove ' Ronnie was better kinda sucks you have to do that but it's right up your ally
Title: Re: Jay's Back Double Bicep Pose
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 29, 2009, 03:16:48 PM
MR OLYMPIA 2009 right there

Would crush Ronnie , Jay and Dex ALL at their bests  ;D
Title: Re: Jay's Back Double Bicep Pose
Post by: Hulkster on September 29, 2009, 03:55:51 PM
open it the difference is more noticeable and looks nothing like the original  ;D

LOL a digital pic on the net and a magazine scan always look different.

duh.

your just figuring this out now? ??? ::)
Title: Re: Jay's Back Double Bicep Pose
Post by: Hulkster on September 29, 2009, 03:56:43 PM
You're a LIAR he never took side on the ' debate '

no, not at all.. ::)
Title: Re: Jay's Back Double Bicep Pose
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 29, 2009, 03:57:40 PM
LOL a digital pic on the net and a magazine scan always look different.

duh.

your just figuring this out now? ??? ::)

Duh stupid see Kevin Horton as the credit on the scan? you know the guy who said he sharpened the pic from 2003 YOU Posted  ;)
Title: Re: Jay's Back Double Bicep Pose
Post by: Hulkster on September 29, 2009, 03:57:59 PM
http://www.flexonline.com/mro/final_men_bb/pages/ddd0113.html

the page ND fears most..
Title: Re: Jay's Back Double Bicep Pose
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 29, 2009, 03:58:26 PM
no, not at all.. ::)

yet NO post proving it  ;) as usual you have nothing
Title: Re: Jay's Back Double Bicep Pose
Post by: kyomu on September 29, 2009, 04:00:20 PM
I think you can see in this photo that Jay's conditioning still wasn't quite where it needs to be.  He has unbelievable size, and I think the reason he won this year is because he was more conditioned than he had been in previous years.  In order to look truly amazing though, I think he should take his condition a little further and come in more ripped than he did this year.  He already dwarfs everyone on stage, what he doesnt have yet is that freaky look that comes with extreme leanness.  IN the pic below you can see the wrinkles in his back.
Don't get me wrong, this was one of Jay's better showings, but I still think he could look better than he did this year if he came in more ripped.  His legs always look ripped, its his back, arms, etc. that usually arent quite there yet when he enters the show. 
Anyways, just my thoughts. 
Here is one of arnold, and you can see the difference in the back detail between the two.  Another interesting point to note here is that in arnold's day, they didnt even go for that "serious" of conditioning of the current day with teh shredded glutes etc. so if Jay is behind arnold on conditioning, then he needs to step it up to keep up with todays standards.  arnold even has a christmas tree in his back while hitting the back bi shot.  even though jay looked good this year...in my opinion, a peak arnold still owns every single competitor of today. 

Wow, this is just what we were discussing in the gym this morning!!!
Title: Re: Jay's Back Double Bicep Pose
Post by: Hulkster on September 29, 2009, 04:00:41 PM
Duh stupid see Kevin Horton as the credit on the scan? you know the guy who said he sharpened the pic from 2003 YOU Posted  ;)

no shit he took the pic.

he also claims it was 'oversharpened' by him.

which, if true, means that so is virtually every other internet pic of Ronnie, dorian or anyone..

so whats your point? ::)

Title: Re: Jay's Back Double Bicep Pose
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 29, 2009, 04:00:58 PM
http://www.flexonline.com/mro/final_men_bb/pages/ddd0113.html

the page ND fears most..

The post that exposed Hulkster  ;)

you think linking to Flex magazine proves Kevin didn't sharpen it? hahahahahahahahaha just as stupid as linking people to the video that Bizzy hosted as proof Bizzy didn't sharpen pics  ;D
Title: Re: Jay's Back Double Bicep Pose
Post by: Hulkster on September 29, 2009, 04:01:22 PM
yet NO post proving it  ;) as usual you have nothing

yeah, the flex link with the legit pic is 'nothing' LOL

 ::)

http://www.flexonline.com/mro/final_men_bb/pages/ddd0113.html

http://www.flexonline.com/mro/final_men_bb/pages/ddd0113.html
Title: Re: Jay's Back Double Bicep Pose
Post by: Hulkster on September 29, 2009, 04:02:44 PM
The post that exposed Hulkster  ;)

you think linking to Flex magazine proves Kevin didn't sharpen it? hahahahahahahahaha just as stupid as linking people to the video that Bizzy hosted as proof Bizzy didn't sharpen pics  ;D

see what I mean about conspiracy theories?

 ::)

the nuthuggers claim the 99 prejudging vid is enhanced, that 2003 Ronnie shots are enhanced.

they claim its all enhanced because it is all better than dorian..

 ::)
Title: Re: Jay's Back Double Bicep Pose
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 29, 2009, 04:03:45 PM
no shit he took the pic.

he also claims it was 'oversharpened' by him.

which, if true, means that so is virtually every other internet pic of Ronnie, dorian or anyone..

so whats your point? ::)



No NOT virtually every other pic certain ones and he pointed out which ones , ironically a LOT of the ones you used  ;D how many Yates pics did he say were?  ;)

you keep posting them too , the great think about the Muscletime 99 Olympia pics is NONE of them look like a lot of the photoshopped pics you posted or the ones I scanned  ;D I notice you don't post them anymore lmao
Title: Re: Jay's Back Double Bicep Pose
Post by: kyomu on September 29, 2009, 04:04:11 PM
no christmas tree
Thats what i though.
Title: Re: Jay's Back Double Bicep Pose
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 29, 2009, 04:04:43 PM
yeah, the flex link with the legit pic is 'nothing' LOL

 ::)

http://www.flexonline.com/mro/final_men_bb/pages/ddd0113.html

http://www.flexonline.com/mro/final_men_bb/pages/ddd0113.html

dead links both of them , see fail and again Horton said it's worked case closed in fact he said he worked it  ;)
Title: Re: Jay's Back Double Bicep Pose
Post by: Hulkster on September 29, 2009, 04:07:38 PM
the links aren't dead.

click on them genius. works fine on my computer.

maybe all the twink porn is messing up your computer? :-X
Title: Re: Jay's Back Double Bicep Pose
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 29, 2009, 04:09:26 PM
see what I mean about conspiracy theories?

 ::)

the nuthuggers claim the 99 prejudging vid is enhanced, that 2003 Ronnie shots are enhanced.

they claim its all enhanced because it is all better than dorian..

 ::)

Who said the who video was enhanced?  ??? and that single shot from 03 is worked that we know of , who said Ronnie ' shots ' ? who said Horton took sides?  ???

it sucks you have to lie , hey how about proving these blatant lies?  ;)
Title: Re: Jay's Back Double Bicep Pose
Post by: Hulkster on September 29, 2009, 04:16:03 PM
Who said the who video was enhanced?  ??? and that single shot from 03 is worked that we know of , who said Ronnie ' shots ' ? who said Horton took sides?  ???

it sucks you have to lie , hey how about proving these blatant lies?  ;)

1. Horton and you have been saying this vid is enhanced for a year now...:

http://www.truveo.com/Ronnie-Coleman-1999-Mr-Olympia-Part-Two/id/1160132027

2. go back and read that thread. if you can't see its clear that Kevin was a dorian supporter in the context of the debate, well, your an idiot..

why do you think "the vid was enhanced" or "the shot is oversharpened"?

its because they were better than  dorian and something had to be said to make dorian seem better..

Title: Re: Jay's Back Double Bicep Pose
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 29, 2009, 04:22:29 PM
1. Horton and you have been saying this vid is enhanced for a year now...:

http://www.truveo.com/Ronnie-Coleman-1999-Mr-Olympia-Part-Two/id/1160132027

2. go back and read that thread. if you can't see its clear that Kevin was a dorian supporter in the context of the debate, well, your an idiot..

why do you think "the vid was enhanced" or "the shot is oversharpened"?

its because they were better than  dorian and something had to be said to make dorian seem better..



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1. Horton and you have been saying this vid is enhanced for a year now...:

http://www.truveo.com/Ronnie-Coleman-1999-Mr-Olympia-Part-Two/id/1160132027

I never said the vid was enhanced LIAR I said anything from Bizzy can't be trusted because he admitted to enhancing pics and I busted him myself lying saying he never heard of the sharpening tool and showing pics he used it on  ;) and if Kevin said it's worked he would know

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2. go back and read that thread. if you can't see its clear that Kevin was a dorian supporter in the context of the debate, well, your an idiot..

POST THE LINK you can't do it hence ' go look yourself '  ::) he never took sides you're a liar , he outed you

it's sad when Bizzy had to start tampering with pics frankly Ronnie didn't need them but he thought so apparently , like Horton said you're trying to pass of pics as an accurate representation of how he looked and it's simply not the case , has nothing to do with Dorian well then again it does because why else would he need to do it?  ;D