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Your honest opinion when you look at this pic and you look at his legs, do you think hmmmm? his right leg looks much smaller then his left leg. Or do you just look past the huge imbalance and say i don't care he's Jay Cutler and it doesn't matter if he's un symmetrical?. Does condition alone override the fact that he has a huge flaw?. I guess they did it with Yates and the torn bicep, so why not do it with Jay and the smaller leg?. Is that what bodybuilding has come to?. Lets just give it to the dude thats bigger and in condition regardless of his obvious flaw? Vs a dude that is in just as good if not better condition, yet lacks the size of Jay Cutler?.
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SHUT UP FAG !
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SHUT UP FAG !
you guys hate it that Jays flaw is so obvious don't you :P
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While your argument is technically valid imo, Dorian's bicep was far more noticeable, and Dex more than merely 'lacks the size' of Cutler; in my view, Cutler dwarfs him.
Ok see but you're falling into the trap of, oh Jay is so much bigger then Dex!, well damn it who gives a fuck about his huge flaw, he's bigger shit lets give him the title back? ???
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I thought bodybuilding had turned a page when Dex was crowned Mr O. I thought they went back to symmetry, balance, and condition. Now by giving Jay back the title with his huge flaw, its like bodybuilding has taken a step backwards, and lost some credibility. I mean i think everyone was so impressed with Jay's condition cause they hadn't seen him like this since 2001 that everyone just jumped on the band wagon, and while doing so overlooked a huge flaw. And now when you go back and assess the pics, its clear that somethings just not right here. Yeh its a great story, and Jay looked awesome, but come on?
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Okay, now I agree with you, I thought the same thing last year, but I do think Jay was so big, so full, and so lean this year he overcompensated for his lack of symmetry (...something I never thought of him before, incidentally.) I do believe it can techincally be done, though I prefer symmetry.
I have a bigger problem with Branch 2nd than Jay 1st, tbh.
Actually i wouldn't of had a problem with branch winning, he's actually a lot more symmetrical then Jay, and his condition was IMO better then Jay's.
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nice pic comparison.. jay is going into a pose(even his hair is blurry from the motion)... the blurriness shows that.. jay is gonna pose with his eyes closed...ya right...and u post a pic of dex full posed.... RACIST!
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Dexter has the better symmetry.
Jay is a freak and that's what they like.
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nice pic comparison.. jay is going into a pose(even his hair is blurry from the motion)... the blurriness shows that.. jay is gonna pose with his eyes closed...ya right...and u post a pic of dex full posed.... RACIST!
Oh so the pic is blurry and making his right leg look 3" smaller then his left leg, well damn then i guess i was wrong. ::) Seriously if thats all you got and your like many other just simply over looks the huge leg imbalance then so be it, there's nothing i can do with a delusional person
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Dexter has the better symmetry.
Jay is a freak and that's what they like.
If its freaks that they like then why did Dex win last year?
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Oh so the pic is blurry and making his right leg look 3" smaller then his left leg, well damn then i guess i was wrong. ::) Seriously if thats all you got and your like many other just simply over looks the huge leg imbalance then so be it, there's nothing i can do with a delusional person
why are his eyes closed???? racist!
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nice pic comparison.. jay is going into a pose(even his hair is blurry from the motion)... the blurriness shows that.. jay is gonna pose with his eyes closed...ya right...and u post a pic of dex full posed.... RACIST!
And that pic is as clear a day, put your nerd glasses back on.
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If its freaks that they like then why did Dex win last year?
better conditioning... dumbass! even bob chick said that.. you racist
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J ftw 8)
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And that pic is as clear a day, put your nerd glasses back on.
so im gonna pose with my eyes closed and not even fully flexing??? racist black guy?
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What else do you need to see its obvious.
(http://www.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/DSC_2799_FTFTPMKBAH.jpg)
(http://www.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/DSC_3663_TBXHQGTTTL.jpg)
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better conditioning... dumbass! even bob chick said that.. you racist
Well if Chick said it then its a done deal!
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What else do you need to see its obvious.
(http://www.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/DSC_2799_FTFTPMKBAH.jpg)
(http://www.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/DSC_3663_TBXHQGTTTL.jpg)
yes he was god that night... thanks for showing that..... if he was black you wouldnt have objected.... thank you
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If its freaks that they like then why did Dex win last year?
Because he was the best man on stage both nights. If Jay had looked on Friday like he did on Saturday last year, Dex would have been 2nd.
And this Olympia is the same as the 95 Mr Olympia, Matt. Jay doesn't have the prettiest body onstage but he is huge, dry and separated with great taper. You talk about Dex like he's perfect, when he has a lot of flaws - short, narrow, sub par taper, zero calves, no stage presence etc
It's actually good that Jay won, cause it's what the Olympia is about - it's not about who has the prettiest physique but who has the most muscular physique with the fewest flaws.
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lol i know i shouldn't be talking like this about Jay i don't hate the dude or anything, he looked amazing, condition was maybe the best in the show, but im just pointing out he's the Mr O again and has such a imbalance in his legs. Just think if Ronnie had one leg 3" smaller then the other?. That would look so odd on him it would wreck is physique.
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lol i know i shouldn't be talking like this about Jay i don't hate the dude or anything, he looked amazing, condition was maybe the best in the show, but im just pointing out he's the Mr O again and has such a imbalance in his legs. Just think if Ronnie had one leg 3" smaller then the other?. That would look so odd on him it would wreck is physique.
truth is if ronnie was white you wouldnt be prassing him... hide your racism... buddy... whats funny is ive seen ronnie in person i was like "wow" that fucker is huge... when i saw jay i was like "wow" that fucker is huge... when i saw dexter i was like"wtf??" this guy is mr.olympia???
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lol i know i shouldn't be talking like this about Jay i don't hate the dude or anything, he looked amazing, condition was maybe the best in the show, but im just pointing out he's the Mr O again and has such a imbalance in his legs. Just think if Ronnie had one leg 3" smaller then the other?. That would look so odd on him it would wreck is physique.
From both a bodybuilding and an aesthetic viewpoint, Jay's quad imbalance looks far less worse than Dex having zero calves to go with his level of upper leg development.
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Im telling you now that was Jays last win. And i agree Dex stages presence sucks, he seems half asleep out there, i like Jays stage presence better, again i said i wouldn't have cared it Branch won so enough with calling me a racist!.
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matt t=racist..enough said... i give all bbers praise on how they look.. you look on only color... congrats on your racism.... god speed!
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Your honest opinion when you look at this pic and you look at his legs, do you think hmmmm? his right leg looks much smaller then his left leg. Or do you just look past the huge imbalance and say i don't care he's Jay Cutler and it doesn't matter if he's un symmetrical?. Does condition alone override the fact that he has a huge flaw?. I guess they did it with Yates and the torn bicep, so why not do it with Jay and the smaller leg?. Is that what bodybuilding has come to?. Lets just give it to the dude thats bigger and in condition regardless of his obvious flaw? Vs a dude that is in just as good if not better condition, yet lacks the size of Jay Cutler?.
(http://www.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/DSC_2484_NNUFNOZJXB.jpg)(http://www.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/DSC_4097_ZBDDOSSSTL.jpg)
at least dorian's torn bi was see in only one pose while jay's imbalanced quads are seen in so many poses!!..
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its easy to see that with the imbalance but i watched the streaming video it wasn't as apparent. jay knows what his weaknesses are and poses to them. so on stage live he looks better and that what the judges see.
and on that note, dex looked like nothing special when he was on stage. in pics i think has one of the best MMs of all time but during the video he was being crushed.
height and size are apart of the game as well.
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I thought bodybuilding had turned a page when Dex was crowned Mr O. I thought they went back to symmetry, balance, and condition. Now by giving Jay back the title with his huge flaw, its like bodybuilding has taken a step backwards, and lost some credibility. I mean i think everyone was so impressed with Jay's condition cause they hadn't seen him like this since 2001 that everyone just jumped on the band wagon, and while doing so overlooked a huge flaw. And now when you go back and assess the pics, its clear that somethings just not right here. Yeh its a great story, and Jay looked awesome, but come on?
You're making a judgement call from one picture. The show isn't judged by pictures or video. Jay is way too wide and his conditioning was spot on so there wasn't a chance for anyone else.
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Your honest opinion when you look at this pic and you look at his legs, do you think hmmmm? his right leg looks much smaller then his left leg. Or do you just look past the huge imbalance and say i don't care he's Jay Cutler and it doesn't matter if he's un symmetrical?. Does condition alone override the fact that he has a huge flaw?. I guess they did it with Yates and the torn bicep, so why not do it with Jay and the smaller leg?. Is that what bodybuilding has come to?. Lets just give it to the dude thats bigger and in condition regardless of his obvious flaw? Vs a dude that is in just as good if not better condition, yet lacks the size of Jay Cutler?.
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_H4X2870_GQJYKHNUQX.jpg)(http://www.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/DSC_4097_ZBDDOSSSTL.jpg)
Try this
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Your honest opinion when you look at this pic and you look at his legs, do you think hmmmm? his right leg looks much smaller then his left leg. Or do you just look past the huge imbalance and say i don't care he's Jay Cutler and it doesn't matter if he's un symmetrical?. Does condition alone override the fact that he has a huge flaw?. I guess they did it with Yates and the torn bicep, so why not do it with Jay and the smaller leg?. Is that what bodybuilding has come to?. Lets just give it to the dude thats bigger and in condition regardless of his obvious flaw? Vs a dude that is in just as good if not better condition, yet lacks the size of Jay Cutler?.
Lot more to symmetry than people think m it's a broad term in bodybuilding that means a lot of different things , left/right exactness ( nothing is nature is truly symmetrical ) it also means small waist & hips , small joints , great , taper , a ' light frame ' with lots of muscle ( Flex Wheeler ) it also means great muscle balance & proportion , wide clavicles , length of muscles , torso , legs , etc so technically Jay is symmetrical despite not looking like Flex Wheeler it all depends on which context you're talking about.
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Matt T is getting bitter enough to join Team Nasser. Give it up guy.
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Jay is NOT symetrical
Dex IS
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Racist post reported >:(
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8) DEX looks like shit . JAY is much better . Hope this helps .
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Jay isn't but niether is Dex. Dex doesn't have calves. Jay is missing 1 half of 1 bodypart. Dex is missing both halves.
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While your argument is technically valid imo, Dorian's bicep was far more noticeable, and Dex more than merely 'lacks the size' of Cutler; in my view, Cutler dwarfs him.
I agree that Cutler was justified in winning, however, I totally disagree that Dorian's bicep was more noticeable. Quads are displayed in every front pose; Dorian's bicep was only noticeable in the FDB. As great as Jay was this year, his quad imbalance was more pronounced than ever imo.
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I agree that Cutler was justified in winning, however, I totally disagree that Dorian's bicep was more noticeable. Quads are displayed in every front pose; Dorian's bicep was only noticeable in the FDB. As great as Jay was this year, his quad imbalance was more pronounced than ever imo.
That's because his biceps were too small to be noticed inthe rear double biceps pose ;)
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Yet he still dominates that shot ;D
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Matt, how do you face your parents when they know you suck dicks for money?
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Yet he still dominates that shot ;D
The irony - missing arms, less pronounced v-taper, weaker delts and hams, but according to judges and their blind followers he is "dominating" ::)
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Why is Matt T comparing the 3rd place finisher with the winner, shouldn't he be comparing the 2nd place guy with the winner, oh no, wait the 2nd place guy was also white. RASCIST!!!!
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Matt, how do you face your parents when they know you suck dicks for money?
the only truthful post in the whole thread
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That's because his biceps were too small to be noticed inthe rear double biceps pose ;)
NOT nice try though ::) it's all about the angle top pic is from the same contests FYI could be worse could have a back that can't be noticed in the rear double biceps pose ;)
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The irony - missing arms, less pronounced v-taper, weaker delts and hams, but according to judges and their blind followers he is "dominating" ::)
His arms aren't missing Hulkster from that angle his biceps aren't as visible , he still has outstanding triceps and forearms . less pronounced V-taper? ::) says you you see what you want , weaker delts? don't make blanket statements elaborate on this gem , and hams? the irony of you calling anyone blind , and hamstrings more bullshit Dorian's hamstrings are weaker HOW , don't say they are prove they are
Classic example of you cherry picking what you think is weak while ignoring Nasser's glaring weakness HE HAS NO BACK at all , traps , teres , infranspinatus , spinal erectors , lats all SUCK badly his back is in NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM the back that belongs to a 280 pound bodybuilder , he lacks thickness in all areas of his back , he lacks separation , density and crisp muscularity , he's soft in the glutes another example of his lack of conditioning despite taking diuretics , his whole pose is ruined because all the great parts you listed only serve to highlight his pathetic back and this is one single shot which BTW he's dominating Nasser in among many others which is why he placed first not just in the minds of his ' blind followers ' but the judges and Nasser DID NOT PLACE ;D
Nasser doesn't compare to Dorian from the back NEVER has and NEVER will , he could match or even beat a less than perfect Dorian from the front , he gets soundly beat everywhere else , at his best the ONLY pose Nasser could maybe beat Dorian in is the ab-thigh and maybe the front double biceps pose very other Dorian kills him in
you're gonna have to face reality Nasser is not as good as you think he is , against Dorian or Kevin or Ronnie or Platz
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The Mr.O has never been a figure competition. Why is this such a difficult concept to understand?
I only care about BB to see how much muscle mass and good condition is humanly possible to reach.
If I'm looking for inspiration I try to maintain an muscular athletic slender (gayish) physique.
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Your honest opinion when you look at this pic and you look at his legs, do you think hmmmm? his right leg looks much smaller then his left leg. Or do you just look past the huge imbalance and say i don't care he's Jay Cutler and it doesn't matter if he's un symmetrical?. Does condition alone override the fact that he has a huge flaw?. I guess they did it with Yates and the torn bicep, so why not do it with Jay and the smaller leg?. Is that what bodybuilding has come to?. Lets just give it to the dude thats bigger and in condition regardless of his obvious flaw? Vs a dude that is in just as good if not better condition, yet lacks the size of Jay Cutler?.
(http://www.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/DSC_2484_NNUFNOZJXB.jpg)(http://www.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/DSC_4097_ZBDDOSSSTL.jpg)
Black man's envy...
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lol i know i shouldn't be talking like this about Jay i don't hate the dude or anything, he looked amazing, condition was maybe the best in the show, but im just pointing out he's the Mr O again and has such a imbalance in his legs. Just think if Ronnie had one leg 3" smaller then the other?. That would look so odd on him it would wreck is physique.
Everyone has something you can point a finger at...DEx has no calves, Phil is narrow, Kai is short waisted, Branch is blocky, etc, etc...whatever imbalance on Jay, it's less noticable in person live with movement, posing,, etc then in a still pic from the front.
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Everyone has something you can point a finger at...DEx has no calves, Phil is narrow, Kai is short waisted, Branch is blocky, etc, etc...whatever imbalance on Jay, it's less noticable in person live with movement, posing,, etc then in a still pic from the front.
Exactly
Jay deserved it 8)
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Yes, from that angle his biceps are Missing relative to what they should be for a top pro, and yes anyone with an unbiased eye can tell his taper is less pronounced than Nasser in the RDB pose, delts are smaller and less separated and hams not as ripped/separated. Also epic self ownage and posting the closeup comparison of Yates and Nasser's arm and delt form a rear double bi which clearly shows Yates' inferior delts and arms relative to Nasser's
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=300337.0;attach=341943;image)
And finally, I laughed at your statement that Yates supposedly beats Nasser from all angles except for a few front poses and to support this all you do is post back shots lol
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Shut up. Dex cant even beat Phil.
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Yes, from that angle his biceps are Missing relative to what they should be for a top pro, and yes anyone with an unbiased eye can tell his taper is less pronounced than Nasser in the RDB pose, delts are smaller and less separated and hams not as ripped/separated. Also epic self ownage and posting the closeup comparison of Yates and Nasser's arm and delt form a rear double bi which clearly shows Yates' inferior delts and arms relative to Nasser's
And finally, I laughed at your statement that Yates supposedly beats Nasser from all angles except for a few front poses and to support this all you do is post back shots lol
Yes, from that angle his biceps are Missing relative to what they should be for a top pro, and yes anyone with an unbiased eye can tell his taper is less pronounced than Nasser in the RDB pose, delts are smaller and less separated and hams not as ripped/separated. Also epic self ownage and posting the closeup comparison of Yates and Nasser's arm and delt form a rear double bi which clearly shows Yates' inferior delts and arms relative to Nasser's
Did you see the pics I just posted? you can clearly see his biceps in ALL of those shots your statement holds no water . and what would you know about an unbiased eye? you don't even know how contests are judged yet you're going to claim someone is biased? great logic. ::) you're delusion runs neck-and-neck with Hulkster as does your ignorance
You're claiming Dorian's delts are aren't as good because they're not as big? hahahhahahahahaha hello genius he's not 280 pounds are his delts supposed to be bigger? and less separated my ass , I can clearly see separation of all three heads on Dorian's delts just because you like the way Nassers looks doesn't mean they're inferior , same with the hamstrings you just keep typing they're not as good or ripped or striated BULLSHIT name me one muscle on Nasser's leg-biceps that are developed and separated that Dorian doesn't have
And finally, I laughed at your statement that Yates supposedly beats Nasser from all angles except for a few front poses and to support this all you do is post back shots lol
there is NO supposedly Dorian beats Nasser from all angles it's a FACT he faced Nasser many times and wiped the floor with him , this isn't speculation this is a done deal and I said at his best compared to Nasser's best , and another great job posting shots from contests that Dorian score perfect scores with YOU just proved my point especially with that front latspread that's NOT his best
the shot from 1995 the hands clasped most muscular Dorian is beating Nasser in , he's at least 15 pounds lighter and looks at the very least just as big and we all know is conditioning is unmatched although Nasser was hard from the front but soft from the back
and the side chest from 1997 NOT Dorian's best but then again he's still beating Nasser and the standing relaxed from the front 1995 I'm going to post a pic of Dorian standing relaxed from the front from 1995 and show what he looks like when he's fully flexed outclassing Nasser ;)
you're like Hulkster you fear great pics of Dorian with a very good reason and I don't blame you . Dorian is soundly beating Nasser in ALL of these pictures his straight firsts confirm this no excuses or politics needed
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Shut up. Dex cant even beat Phil.
Actually dex is beating Phil in that pic!
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Actually dex is beating Phil in that pic!
Beating him how?
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Exactly
Jay deserved it 8)
Absolutely Jay deserved the Olympia he won it easily with straight firsts .
almost everyone on here bases their opinion on what they prefer and that's not how contests are judged . people can't separate what they like from what wins
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Your honest opinion when you look at this pic and you look at his legs, do you think hmmmm? his right leg looks much smaller then his left leg. Or do you just look past the huge imbalance and say i don't care he's Jay Cutler and it doesn't matter if he's un symmetrical?. Does condition alone override the fact that he has a huge flaw?. I guess they did it with Yates and the torn bicep, so why not do it with Jay and the smaller leg?. Is that what bodybuilding has come to?. Lets just give it to the dude thats bigger and in condition regardless of his obvious flaw? Vs a dude that is in just as good if not better condition, yet lacks the size of Jay Cutler?.
(http://www.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/DSC_2484_NNUFNOZJXB.jpg)(http://www.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/DSC_4097_ZBDDOSSSTL.jpg)
All of your arguments are invalid due to your lack of intelligence.
DUBAI, INDIA!!!!
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Bobs clearly win the argument again against Nastysissy. Dorian had a disgraceful, imbalanced and hideous physique by the end. The only salient part he had was his back. He had shit, pathetic arms, narrow quads and a grotesque gut. He made a mockery of the sport with his burglar thefts of Olympia titles.
Nasser beat him from front and side. He actually also matched him a lot closer on back than people think.
Only pasty, unemployed racist think that Nasser was not robbed or clearly the better physique by the end.
AND LET NOT FORGET, IT'S MEANT TO BE A PHISIQUE CONTEST, NOT JUDGING NAMES OR ETHNICITY.
If Yates had any decency he would publicly apologize for his blatant gifts but what can we expect when we are talking of a genius level university graduate and a convicted burglar, admitted racist with no academic qualifications, who worked in an animal slaughterhouse
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Beating him how?
Better condition, tinier waist, Phil has a film of water under the skin, i guess he was sick before the show so he was holding some water. Oh and Dexter has much more dense, hard, and mature muscle then Phil. And thats why he the judges had him ahead of Phil, pretty straight forward.
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you guys hate it that Jays flaw is so obvious don't you :P
Take a closer look at Dex's calfs from behind before you judge Jay so harsh you midget homo.
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Bobs clearly win the argument again against Nastysissy. Dorian had a disgraceful, imbalanced and hideous physique by the end. The only salient part he had was his back. He had shit, pathetic arms, narrow quads and a grotesque gut. He made a mockery of the sport with his burglar thefts of Olympia titles.
Nasser beat him from front and side. He actually also matched him a lot closer on back than people think.
Only pasty, unemployed racist think that Nasser was not robbed or clearly the better physique by the end.
AND LET NOT FORGET, IT'S MEANT TO BE A PHISIQUE CONTEST, NOT JUDGING NAMES OR ETHNICITY.
If Yates had any decency he would publicly apologize for his blatant gifts but what can we expect when we are talking of a genius level university graduate and a convicted burglar, admitted racist with no academic qualifications, who worked in an animal slaughterhouse
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