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Former McCain Campaign Manager: Nominating Palin In 2012 Would Be 'Catastrophic'
Source: Talking Points Memo
Former McCain Campaign Manager: Nominating Palin In 2012 Would Be 'Catastrophic'
Eric Kleefeld | October 2, 2009, 9:25AM
That famous infighting of the core McCain campaign versus Sarah Palin is still continuing, with former McCain campaign manager Steve Schmidt openly saying at the Atlantic's "First Draft of History" symposium that it would be "catastrophic" if Palin were to win the Republican nomination in 2012.
Schmidt said:"Most politicians of prominence write a book. My honest view is that she would not be a winning candidate for president and if she was the results would be...catastrophic. It's fairly inconceivable she could be elected."
It's sure been a long journey for Schmidt, as far as his attitudes on Palin are concerned. The Los Angeles Times reported in October 2008 that Schmidt himself pushed McCain into picking her. After Karl Rove said the pick was a campaign decision, and not a governing decision, Schmidt fired back: "Karl's wrong. She's an exceptional governor, a reform governor in Alaska."
But with the campaign long over -- and Palin's performance regarded as disastrous by everyone except her core fan-base -- Schmidt is sure singing a different tune.
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Like anyone with a brain outside of their pants doesn't believe this. Palin is a polarizing figure and many mistake that for 'popularity'. She isn't popular she's mockular. Popular to mock and watch, kind of like Britney Spears was during her whole shave my head meltdown. Palin has figuratively shaved her head (quit office early) and we are all waiting for the next step. The book won't provide it (too many people involved not named Palin) but hopefully she goes on a public tour then the magic will once again happen.
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By "magic" do you mean Tina Fey moments?
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Palin would not be a good nominee for president. Big mistake if the repubs do this in 2012.
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By "magic" do you mean Tina Fey moments?
You betcha!
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You betcha!
*wink*
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I know a few that would vote for her 333386, BILLY MIMNAUGH ;D ;D
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Don't worry, today she promised to respond in "her book".
I guess we see it's gonna be a drama-fest, not a grand vision for america's future.
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I know a few that would vote for her 333386, BILLY MIMNAUGH ;D ;D
I would vote for her in a heartbeat knowing what I know now.
She doesnt hate the country and does not want to impose insane restrictions on our domestic energy needs.
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you have to be joking:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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I'll one up you:
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Not really one uped at all. Obama won, Palin became mocked nationally and internationally. One is president and one quit half way through her term to write a book. Jumping the shark anyone?
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so your telling me you think palin is smarter than obama :o :o
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Not really one uped at all. Obama won, Palin became mocked nationally and internationally. One is president and one quit half way through her term to write a book. Jumping the shark anyone?
BTW - The One looked like a jackass to the entire world today. A real fool. Only an idiot ever thought Chicago had a chance. Oh thats right. . . . .
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BTW - The One looked like a jackass to the entire world today. A real fool. Only an idiot ever thought Chicago had a chance. Oh thats right. . . . .
He hardly looked like a fool to me. Looked like a president and Chicago citizen doing his best for his city. Can't fault a man for trying.
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He hardly looked like a fool to me. Looked like a president and Chicago citizen doing his best for his city. Can't fault a man for trying.
Oh thats right, UE soaring still well beyond his forecasts before scaring us into the stmulus bill,, 2 wars, a taxpayer tab in the tens of millions of dollars for this, Obamacare stuck in the mud, Czars under fire, hasnt spoken to Afghanistan Commander in almost three months until today.
Yeah, whats wrong with that right?
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I would vote for her in a heartbeat knowing what I know now.
She doesnt hate the country and does not want to impose insane restrictions on our domestic energy needs.
this is the reason why I can't take anything you say seriously.
your undying belief that Palin is somehow good for the country is all the proof I need that there is something seriously wrong inside your skull.
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Palin is nothing short of an idiot. If you don't see this, you're either an idiot yourself or so lost to partisan politics that you are hopeless.
I hope the Republicans do run her in 2012, she will be crushed.
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so your telling me you think palin is smarter than obama
She is obviously far wiser.
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this is the reason why I can't take anything you say seriously.
your undying belief that Palin is somehow good for the country is all the proof I need that there is something seriously wrong inside your skull.
he wouldn't be screaming Palin 2012 if she looked like helen Thomas. reminds me of the ppl who voted for dubya cause they could never have a beer with gore or kerry.
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he wouldn't be screaming Palin 2012 if she looked like helen Thomas. reminds me of the ppl who voted for dubya cause they could never have a beer with gore or kerry.
The last people I want in charge of nuclear weapons and/or foreing policy are the people I drink with.
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this is the reason why I can't take anything you say seriously.
your undying belief that Palin is somehow good for the country is all the proof I need that there is something seriously wrong inside your skull.
I stopped taking him seriously after he went on that little jag about how he believed the End Of Days was coming and the world was ending, populated by zombies and how he was prepping his black duffel bag with survival gear to carry with him everywhere. He honestly believed the Apocalypse scenario all because a black man got elected.
Truly not the logic and intellect of a normal rational human being.
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I stopped taking him seriously after he went on that little jag about how he believed the End Of Days was coming and the world was ending, populated by zombies and how he was prepping his black duffel bag with survival gear to carry with him everywhere. He honestly believed the Apocalypse scenario all because a black man got elected.
Truly not the logic and intellect of a normal rational human being.
wow - I must have missed that one.
I don't check into this board too often these days
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wow - I must have missed that one.
I don't check into this board too often these days
Oh don't worry. He will tell you about it. Unless he has gotten too embarassed to mention it now.
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Oh don't worry. He will tell you about it. Unless he has gotten too embarassed to mention it now.
Yeah, im embarassed about being prepared for SHTF scenarios. ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Yeah, im embarassed about being prepared for SHTF scenarios. ::) ::) ::) ::)
I haven't heard this yet
what SHTF scenarios are you preparing for?
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I haven't heard this yet
what SHTF scenarios are you preparing for?
I live in NYC and remember 9/11 like it was yesterday. Anything can happen in an instant.
Natuaral disaster.
Mass power outage
Terrorism
Etc.
Basically I have enough supplies to get me through a one week or tw week scenario for all my needs. If you want to mock me for that, fine.
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I live in NYC and remember 9/11 like it was yesterday. Anything can happen in an instant.
Natuaral disaster.
Mass power outage
Terrorism
Etc.
Basically I have enough supplies to get me through a one week or tw week scenario for all my needs. If you want to mock me for that, fine.
Actually you claimed it was economic meltdowns, unemployment, looters, debt ridden zombies, food starved citizens uprising into riots and casually murdering anyone that got in their way.
It was really hysterical because you started making these claims in Febuary, only a couple weeks after Obama was sworn in and blaming it all on him. ::)
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Actually you claimed it was economic meltdowns, unemployment, looters, debt ridden zombies, food starved citizens uprising into riots and casually murdering anyone that got in their way.
It was really hysterical because you started making these claims in Febuary, only a couple weeks after Obama was sworn in and blaming it all on him. ::)
Oh thats right, you live in lilly white wisconsin. you have no clue about urban areas like the bronx , brooklyn, etc.
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Here is my plan so far:
1. I have three SHTF duffle bags. One at home, one at work, and one in the car. I have everything I need in there for most scenarios and for three to five days of survival.
2. My friend owns a hunting store near me and I got everything I need before its banned that is still legal. I am focusing on ammo mostly since i already have rifles, handguns, and a shotgun.
3. Get water to last you at least a week. Its cheap and stores well.
4. I need to get canned food to stock up.
5. Keep your cars filled with gas.
6. Keep a stash of cash.
7. Get a crank/solar radio that does not need battiers to operate.
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So being prepared for looters, drug addicts, desperate people, shortages, is paranoia?
You have no idea what is coming buddy. Dont say I did not warn you. Check out the other post I listed about Gerald Celente and his track record and trends that are coming.
Listen to Schiff. He called this one 1000% spot on and look at what he is saying now.
Look at how scared shit Obama is lately. no more Hope and Change - just fear and doom.
He knows what is coming too.
Not at all. Just prepared for anything and make plans accordingly.
1. Dont take on unnecessary debt.
2. Pay off existing debts.
3. Streamline and cut fat out of business. For example, we just made a small switch in the office that saved us $150 a month on our phone bill.
4. Save up supplies in case of an emergency.
If you put your head in the sand that is fine, but if you want to realize just WTF is going on than you need to listen to the people who called 100000% the disaster we are facing, when all the other "trusted" voices did not.
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Oh thats right, you live in lilly white wisconsin. you have no clue about urban areas like the bronx , brooklyn, etc.
Assuming incorrectly you know where I live - after I have already stated where I live on this board - in a desperate effort to make a failing point isn't the best of tactics you know.
How's the Schiff predictions going so far?
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Assuming incorrectly you know where I live - after I have already stated where I live on this board - in a desperate effort to make a failing point isn't the best of tactics you know.
How's the Schiff predictions going so far?
Thats right, you live in florida, I confused you wish someone else.
Actually, Schiff's predictions have been pretty good. Gold is much higher, the dollar is losing value, UE is going up rapidly, etc.
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HIS IS A GUY WHO RAN THE WORST CAMPAIGN IN THE HISTORY OF REPUBLICAN POLITICS.Rush had it right,McCain and his people are failures,step aside and get out of the way.
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Worst campaign in history and perfect example of being a failure was tapping Palin to ride the VP slot.
You can't get any more braindead than that.
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Worst campaign in history and perfect example of being a failure was tapping Palin to ride the VP slot.
You can't get any more braindead than that.
McLame lost of McLame, not because of Palin. But keep fooling and lying to yourself.
McLame sucked and when he suspended his campaign and said the "funamentals of the economy are strong" it was over.
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McLame lost of McLame, not because of Palin. But keep fooling and lying to yourself.
McLame sucked and when he suspended his campaign and said the "funamentals of the economy are strong" it was over.
The key to winning is defining yourself and defining your opponent. Obama clearly defined his political identity, while simultaneously painting McCain as "Bush III".
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The key to winning is defining yourself and defining your opponent. Obama clearly defined his political identity, while simultaneously painting McCain as "Bush III".
Kool aiders like 240 and Lurker want to keep deluding themselves into believing Palin was the cause of McLames' loss.
McLame sucked, period.
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Kool aiders like 240 and Lurker want to keep deluding themselves into believing Palin was the cause of McLames' loss.
McLame sucked, period.
Palin gave him the shot in the arm he needed to make this a race The conservative base wasn't behind McCain. In fact, McCain didn't overtake Obama in the polls, UNTIL he picked her. Then, his crowds got large and the left didn't know what to do with her.
Once the economic crash hit, Obama was able to get back on message. Add McCain's erratic knee-jerk reactions to the whole thing and the situation got away from him.
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Only stupid retard libs think it was Palins fault.McCain wouldnt have gotten 20% of the vote if he didnt pick Palin.The base would have stayed hom in droves because they DESPISE McCAIN.
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I would vote for her in a heartbeat knowing what I know now.
She doesnt hate the country and does not want to impose insane restrictions on our domestic energy needs.
amazing
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amazing
Isnt it?
Who in their right mind would ever propose cap & trade and give away billions directly to Goldman Sachs to assist in imposing an energy tax?
Isnt it amazing that a president of the greatest nation on the world would do as his first task as president go on a world apology tour?
It really is amazing.
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Only stupid retard libs think it was Palins fault.McCain wouldnt have gotten 20% of the vote if he didnt pick Palin.The base would have stayed hom in droves because they DESPISE McCAIN.
Which dosent make it right..you want a Broad with no national Political experience, C student in shitty schools, former sports broadcaster and gov of a hodunk state..to be president, Because she is cute and says a lot of dumbass catchy things...she was the female BUSH IMO.
Everyone knows me...i dont give a shit if a KKK member was running for POTUS, if that redneck had good education coupled with a nice plan, sheeeeeeeeit i would vote for his ass in a heartbeat. Palin had no substance at all. Just a figure head picked by the repubes to capitalize on Hilary Clinton's success with the women voters. Without Hilary there would be no Palin on the national stage. And she is too Dumb to notice that. She was used, and they cant t turn her off. Now she has turned to the monster the Repubes cant controll anymore...
this broad got an 850 on the SAT...jesus h christ
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Which dosent make it right..you want a Broad with no national Political experience, C student in shitty schools, former sports broadcaster and gov of a hodunk state..to be president, Because she is cute and says a lot of dumbass catchy things...she was the female BUSH IMO.
Everyone knows me...i dont give a shit if a KKK member was running for POTUS, if that redneck had good education coupled with a nice plan, sheeeeeeeeit i would vote for his ass in a heartbeat. Palin had no substance at all. Just a figure head picked by the repubes to capitalize on Hilary Clinton's success with the women voters. Without Hilary there would be no Palin on the national stage. And she is too Dumb to notice that. She was used, and they cant t turn her off. Now she has turned to the monster the Repubes cant controll anymore...
this broad got an 850 on the SAT...jesus h christ
Jimmy Carter was brilliant too and graduated the top of the class in the USNA. Whats your point?
So far Obama has not shown an ounce of a connection between Ivy league eduction and common sense.
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Which dosent make it right..you want a Broad with no national Political experience, C student in shitty schools, former sports broadcaster and gov of a hodunk state..to be president, Because she is cute and says a lot of dumbass catchy things...she was the female BUSH IMO.
Everyone knows me...i dont give a shit if a KKK member was running for POTUS, if that redneck had good education coupled with a nice plan, sheeeeeeeeit i would vote for his ass in a heartbeat. Palin had no substance at all. Just a figure head picked by the repubes to capitalize on Hilary Clinton's success with the women voters. Without Hilary there would be no Palin on the national stage. And she is too Dumb to notice that. She was used, and they cant t turn her off. Now she has turned to the monster the Repubes cant controll anymore...
this broad got an 850 on the SAT...jesus h christ
WHO CARES what she got on her SAT? There are plenty of people with high SAT scores who can't even balance a checkbook (and far too many of them sit in Washington, DC today).
Obama is Mr. Harvard; but, he ain't smart enough to realize that he can't sweet-talk Iran or NK into giving up their nukes.
Nor does our brilliant president realize that, no matter how much apologizing he does for America or how much EU butt-kissing he does, when the rubber meets the road, they ain't lifting a finger to help him out with Gitmo.
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Actually, I think Obama would have won the election no matter who the republicans threw at him in 2008. The country wanted a change and the majority signed on to the anti-bush movement. As long as Obama was seen as change and McCain seen as somewhat similar to Bush, Obama would win. In hindsight, I think Palin weighed McCain down some but it probably didn't have that much of an impact. She brought some on the far right but alienated some independents.
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Actually, I think Obama would have won the election no matter who the republicans threw at him in 2008. The country wanted a change and the majority signed on to the anti-bush movement. As long as Obama was seen as change and McCain seen as somewhat similar to Bush, Obama would win. In hindsight, I think Palin weighed McCain down some but it probably didn't have that much of an impact. She brought some on the far right but alienated some independents.
Obama is a product of slick marketing and timing.
When he said "change", people thought that was from GWB, not a marxist transformation of health care, energy, banking, and the country as a whole. The casual observer who does not pay attention to things bought this whole slick marketing scheme hook line and sinker and hence, he are stuck fighting over energy taxes, govt takeover of medicine, bailouts, etc.
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Which dosent make it right..you want a Broad with no national Political experience, C student in shitty schools, former sports broadcaster and gov of a hodunk state..to be president, Because she is cute and says a lot of dumbass catchy things...she was the female BUSH IMO.
Everyone knows me...i dont give a shit if a KKK member was running for POTUS, if that redneck had good education coupled with a nice plan, sheeeeeeeeit i would vote for his ass in a heartbeat. Palin had no substance at all. Just a figure head picked by the repubes to capitalize on Hilary Clinton's success with the women voters. Without Hilary there would be no Palin on the national stage. And she is too Dumb to notice that. She was used, and they cant t turn her off. Now she has turned to the monster the Repubes cant controll anymore...
this broad got an 850 on the SAT...jesus h christ
Bush graduated from IVY league schools.He then was governor of Texas.Both of which either equal or FAR surpass ANYTHING Obama did in his entire life.Now, I know community organising is an amazing resume but to compare it to a governor is a joke.
The sad thing is the joke is on us as Obama is proving to be worse then Jaimmy Carter.
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I guess 60% of Repubs who stated Palin wasn't qualified are all "retarded libs".
I guess the Repubs, moderates and independents that jumped ship after Palin opened her mouth was McCain's "shot in the arm".
::)
The only thing I have found with less intellect and brain cells than Palin are her supporters.
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Bush graduated from IVY league schools.He then was governor of Texas.Both of which either equal or FAR surpass ANYTHING Obama did in his entire life.Now, I know community organising is an amazing resume but to compare it to a governor is a joke.
The sad thing is the joke is on us as Obama is proving to be worse then Jaimmy Carter.
Tell me how any of his policies...(which havent even gotten through ::) ) have effected us and makes him comparable to Carter...
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I guess 60% of Repubs who stated Palin wasn't qualified are all "retarded libs".
I guess the Repubs, moderates and independents that jumped ship after Palin opened her mouth was McCain's "shot in the arm".
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The only thing I have found with less intellect and brain cells than Palin are her supporters.
Palin gave her speech McCain took the lead.He got burried when HE stopped his campaig.THATS A FACT.
The only thing I have found with less intellect then Obama are his supporters who cant admit hes a failure.
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Tell me how any of his policies...(which havent even gotten through ::) ) have effected us and makes him comparable to Carter...
His stimulous bill which HE GUARANTEED was passed would stop unemployment at 8% has lost us 3,000,000 jobs and shot unemployment up to 9.8%.Cars for clunkers sucked.The takeover at GM has done nothing.Care to go on?
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His stimulous bill which HE GUARANTEED was passed would stop unemployment at 8% has lost us 3,000,000 jobs and shot unemployment up to 9.8%.Cars for clunkers sucked.The takeover at GM has done nothing.Care to go on?
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Appeasing the crazies in Iran.
Energy taxes and discouraging domestic exploration of oil and gas
Attacking capitilism
Govt schemes that undemine free market captilism.
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His stimulous bill which HE GUARANTEED was passed would stop unemployment at 8% has lost us 3,000,000 jobs and shot unemployment up to 9.8%.Cars for clunkers sucked.The takeover at GM has done nothing.Care to go on?
Woah...so the stumilous didnt slow the recession that your republican president, house and senate, put us in...yeah thought so.. Cars for clunkers Sucked? What are the results...did it do what it was proposed to do. The GM take over was to save them..Did the government assume power...come on my man..you reachin bro..ya reachin
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Woah...so the stumilous didnt slow the recession that your republican president, house and senate, put us in...yeah thought so..
The cause of the recession is irrelevant to the conversation. It's what was promised from the stimulus vs. the results that is the point.
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The cause of the recession is irrelevant to the conversation. It's what was promised from the stimulus vs. the results that is the point.
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The cause of the recession is irrelevant to the conversation. It's what was promised from the stimulus vs. the results that is the point.
Ok and without the stim plan, unemployment would have gone up further...think about if the automakers werent bailed out..how many jobs would have been lost..
The bill slowed the agressiveness of the recession...and yall know that
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Ok and without the stim plan, unemployment would have gone up further...think about if the automakers werent bailed out..how many jobs would have been lost..
The bill slowed the agressiveness of the recession...and yall know that
Thats complete nonsense Mal. This whole plan was nothing but a left wing giveaway to govt agencies. Thats why UE will keep going up till about 10.5% or higher.
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Ok and without the stim plan, unemployment would have gone up further
Are you sure about that? The analogy I heard concerning stimulus spending was that if were a football field, we're between our own goal line and the one yard line. So, in essence, nobody knows since the money hasn't been spent.
Assuming that, it appears that all that's happened is the Obama administration has grossly misforecasted UE without the stimulus, so it's not a stretch to doubt their projections with it..
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Palin gave her speech McCain took the lead.He got burried when HE stopped his campaig.THATS A FACT.
The only thing I have found with less intellect then Obama are his supporters who cant admit hes a failure.
That is simply a bump that is normal for candidates to have after their conventions. Happens to everyone.
Funny that his numbers started going down AFTER Katie exposed what a nimwit Palin truly was with basic interview questions.
You = FAIL
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That is simply a bump that is normal for candidates to have after their conventions. Happens to everyone.
Funny that his numbers started going down AFTER Katie exposed what a nimwit Palin truly was with basic interview questions.
You = FAIL
HIS NUMBERS PLUMETTED AFTER HE STOPPED THE CAMPAIGN.EVERY SINGLE EXPERT EXCEPT DUMB ASS MOTHERFUCKERS LIKE OLBERMANN AGREE TO THIS.The numbers dont lie.
YOU=DUNCE
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I guess all those that jumped ship from the GOP to vote Dem and stated in the polls that Palin wasn't up to the task left for the same reason?
You = PWNED
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I guess all those that jumped ship from the GOP to vote Dem and stated in the polls that Palin wasn't up to the task left for the same reason?
You = PWNED
How hard is this for you to understand - McLame sucked and is hated by most in the GOP.
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How hard is this for you to understand - McLame sucked and is hated by most in the GOP.
Apparently not as hard as it is for you to understand the GOP and the nation thinks Palin is worse.
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Apparently not as hard as it is for you to understand the GOP and the nation thinks Palin is worse.
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You cant argue with him hes an idiot suffering from Palin derangement.Typical lib jackass who points out Palins interview on Curic but ignores Biden claiming FDR was president in 1929 and went on television with couric,which trumps BY MILES anything Palin said.Everyone hates Palin but she will sell over 5,000,000 books and make millions compared to the 4,000 books the beloved Joe Biden sold.
Its typical lib stupidity.Rush is dumb but Olbermann is smart.Why?Because left wing,limp wristed guys say so.Dam the ratings,dam the fact that NO ONE cares what Olbermann says and jump at ANYTHING Rush says.Nope,the left says it so it must be true.Education matters EXCEPT when speaking about Bush.
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^^ Delusional daily meltdown. ^^
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^^ Delusional daily meltdown. ^^
Hmmm,did Biden say that or not?Yes THATS A FACT!!Is it dummer by miles then ANYTHING Palin has ever said?Yes it is!!
Bush graduated from the Ivy Leagues,yet the left says "hes stupid".Obama is called stupid and the left says "he graduated from the Ivy leagues".
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Hmmm,did Biden say that or not?Yes THATS A FACT!!Is it dummer by miles then ANYTHING Palin has ever said?Yes it is!!
Bush graduated from the Ivy Leagues,yet the left says "hes stupid".Obama is called stupid and the left says "he graduated from the Ivy leagues".
"Stand up Chuck!"
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Hmmm,did Biden say that or not?Yes THATS A FACT!!Is it dummer by miles then ANYTHING Palin has ever said?Yes it is!!
Bush graduated from the Ivy Leagues,yet the left says "hes stupid".Obama is called stupid and the left says "he graduated from the Ivy leagues".
na...he went through ivy leagues...he wasnt supposed to be there...with his "talents" if he were black...he wouldnt have gotten into fresno state...
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na...he went through ivy leagues...he wasnt supposed to be there...with his "talents" if he were black...he wouldnt have gotten into fresno state...
He graduated!!!!Funny,once again though,the loony left will praise John Kerry as brilliant yet Bush got better grades taking the same cources.
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He graduated!!!!Funny,once again though,the loony left will praise John Kerry as brilliant yet Bush got better grades taking the same cources.
Dont forget that Al Gore dropped out of Law School and Biden got busted for plagarism.
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na...he went through ivy leagues...he wasnt supposed to be there...with his "talents" if he were black...he wouldnt have gotten into fresno state...
You're right - if he were black, he would have went to Harvard.
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You're right - if he were black, he would have went to Harvard.
Dont be an idiot...Dont get this Affirmative action shit twisted. If he were black he would have gone to community college...he wasnt smart...if your smart and black you get a chance...and then excel...and become president of harvard law review...
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Dont be an idiot...Dont get this Affirmative action shit twisted. If he were black he would have gone to community college...he wasnt smart...if your smart and black you get a chance...and then excel...and become president of harvard law review...
Lets see,he became governor of Texas and two terms as president of the US.Yeah,a real moron there.Good point.I guess being a community organiser trumps governor of Texas.
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Dont be an idiot...Dont get this Affirmative action shit twisted. If he were black he would have gone to community college...he wasnt smart...if your smart and black you get a chance...and then excel...and become president of harvard law review...
Look - Bush a moron and it took me a while to agree with the left on this. His name got him along and I agree with that. Bush had some good qualities that i appreciated, but he definately was out of touch with a lot of things.
That being said, the hardest thing about the ivy leagues is getting in. The grading curve there is ridiculous and they have an extremely low drop out of failing rate.
Im not taking anything away from Obama, but going to law school is not exactly the hardest thing in the world to get through.
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Lets see,he became governor of Texas and two terms as president of the US.Yeah,a real moron there.Good point.I guess being a community organiser trumps governor of Texas.
did you forget obama was state and national senate for over 10 years?
billy, you rock as a gimmick.
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did you forget obama was state and national senate for over 10 years?
billy, you rock as a gimmick.
In 10 years, not one bill, not one accomplishment, nothing.
The only thing he really went to bat for was to allow the doctors to perform a live abortion after the baby was born where an abortion did not work so long as the original intent of the mother was to have said abortion.
Not to mention all the votes "present".
Nice record 240.
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Dont be an idiot...Dont get this Affirmative action shit twisted. If he were black he would have gone to community college...he wasnt smart...if your smart and black you get a chance...and then excel...and become president of harvard law review...
Easy, mal. I was only kidding. I should have used a " ;D".
You should be more concerned with Carpenter and Wainwright......and Torre's bullpen management.
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Easy, mal. I was only kidding. I should have used a " ;D".
You should be more concerned with Carpenter and Wainwright......and Torre's bullpen management.
I live on the Bronx border and hope the Yankees bring it home again.
Im gonna get tix to either wednesday or Friday.
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I live on the Bronx border and hope the Yankees bring it home again.
Im gonna get tix to either wednesday or Friday.
I've got a ticket for Game one of the ALDS if I can get out of work and drive down there.
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I've got a ticket for Game one of the ALDS if I can get out of work and drive down there.
If you dont want it, I will always take it off your hands. ;D ;D
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Easy, mal. I was only kidding. I should have used a " ;D".
You should be more concerned with Carpenter and Wainwright......and Torre's bullpen management.
yeah man...but we aint hittin right now...and we got stl on wednesday...but they in a slump right now too...i sure hope manny, kemp, juan pierre and hudson can get consistant...i have given up all hope in Russell Martin...he=should have been traded in 07
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yeah man...but we aint hittin right now...and we got stl on wednesday...but they in a slump right now too...i sure hope manny, kemp, juan pierre and hudson can get consistant...i have given up all hope in Russell Martin...he=should have been traded in 07
It would be something to see the Dodgers vs. the Yankees in the WS. Torre v. Girardi.
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It would be something to see the Dodgers vs. the Yankees in the WS. Torre v. Girardi.
yessss...but your Murders row 2.0....we would get killed...and cc aint lost in 11 outs... :'(
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It would be something to see the Dodgers vs. the Yankees in the WS. Torre v. Girardi.
Torre was a poor in-game manager after 2002. I still give him a big chunk of the blame for 2003, 4 and and, although a little less, 2007.
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yessss...but your Murders row 2.0....we would get killed...and cc aint lost in 11 outs... :'(
Tex, Arod, Damon, Cano, Jete, are ridiculous this year.
Tex has been the best IMHO. His fielding and hitting were insane.
I think our pitching will be the make or break. If we score 5-6 runs a game we should win.
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Tex, Arod, Damon, Cano, Jete, are ridiculous this year.
Tex has been the best IMHO. His fielding and hitting were insane.
I think our pitching will be the make or break. If we score 5-6 runs a game we should win.
As were Matsui and Swisher as well. Swisher was the one who made all of us stat nerds very happy. He poor performance last year seem to prove out to mostly bad luck, so we had high hopes for him this year, and he proved it correct.
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did you forget obama was state and national senate for over 10 years?
billy, you rock as a gimmick.
An Illinois state senator now there's something to be proud of ::)
As a matter of fact it all the more reason not to vote for him
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An Illinois state senator now there's something to be proud of ::)
As a matter of fact it all the more reason not to vote for him
He served in the national senate also.
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He served in the national senate also.
Really, seems to me while he was supposed to representing my home state he spent all his time running for POTUS. What a great deal we got out of that Roland "whinnie the Pooh" Burris. Illinois is a political cess pool, and what could out possible get out of a cess pool except crap.
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lol @ the dopes on this site who are still shitting on Obama's record as a state senator
I hope Obama doesn't read this site cause that's really gotta sting
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lol @ the dopes on this site who are still shitting on Obama's record as a state senator
I hope Obama doesn't read this site cause that's really gotta sting
Dopes? Are you from Illinois? Lol at the assclowns who are so drunk on the Obamaaid they can't see the fraud he is.
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Dopes? Are you from Illinois? Lol at the assclowns who are so drunk on the Obamaaid they can't see the fraud he is.
I'm not from Illinois
does that matter?
if Obama did nothing more than use the position to propel his career that would be enough
that's what all politicians do for the most part
moving from state senator to the most powerful job on the planet is a pretty good result
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lol @ the dopes on this site who are still shitting on Obama's record as a state senator
I hope Obama doesn't read this site cause that's really gotta sting
or the dopes still shitting on palin, youre not one of those are you straw? ;)
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or the dopes still shitting on palin, youre not one of those are you straw? ;)
I couldn't give less of a shit about private citizen palin
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I couldn't give less of a shit about private citizen palin
Who are you kidding? At least I admit to my being interested in her.
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Look - Bush a moron and it took me a while to agree with the left on this. His name got him along and I agree with that. Bush had some good qualities that i appreciated, but he definately was out of touch with a lot of things.
That being said, the hardest thing about the ivy leagues is getting in. The grading curve there is ridiculous and they have an extremely low drop out of failing rate.
Im not taking anything away from Obama, but going to law school is not exactly the hardest thing in the world to get through.
Right. And passing the bar is a breeze too.
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Right. And passing the bar is a breeze too.
I did it myself. I passed the NY bar first time. it was not that hard.
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Who are you kidding? At least I admit to my being interested in her.
333 - your brain is broken
exactly what about Palin do you think would interest me
I think she's an idiot and I would be happy never seeing her or any of her brood in the news ever again.
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333 - your brain is broken
exactly what about Palin do you think would interest me
I think she's an idiot and I would be happy never seeing her or any of her brood in the news ever again.
You are on every thread about her so obviously something sparks your interest in her.
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You are on every thread about her so obviously something sparks your interest in her.
Morbid curiosity. Nothing else.
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Morbid curiosity. Nothing else.
Ha ha. This is why I like getbig. Its all good in the end.
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You are on every thread about her so obviously something sparks your interest in her.
you're an attorney?
you think because I post on a thread about her that it "proves" interest
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you're an attorney?
you think because I post on a thread about her that it "proves" interest
I do commercial debt collection - not criminal law.