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Such great partriots :'(
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Such great partriots :'(
The reason this whole fiasco blew up is because Obama made it about him and his wife. Despite what you may believe, the world is laughing their collective asses off at these two fools and they smacked him down.
Additionally, 2016 Chicago would have been an embarassment for this country because of the corruption and massive losses $$$ wise we would have suffered.
Finally, Chicago never had a chance in the first place, and this was another instance of Obama making promises he cant deliver on. Yet, you suckers buy into it every time.
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what promises are you talking about, do you just make up shit all the time
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what promises are you talking about, do you just make up shit all the time
Chicago never ever had even a remote chance yet Obama made it about him and made people believe his star power was going to deliver the olympics to Chicago.
This was a self created failure/ You cant blame Bush, Palin. Rush, Beck or anyone for this embarassment.
Everyone with a brain knew Rio was getting this and i said so before the announcement was amde. Look it up.
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you just said obama promised, when did he say that
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you just said obama promised, when did he say that
Please, he created the expectation that it was in the bag etc. The MSM said that there was no way he would be going there unless it was a done deal, etc.
Dont play dumb, he and the MSM hyped this up as it was a done deal and everyone acted like it was.
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so he didn't say he promised and you made it up . THANK YOU
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so he didn't say he promised and you made it up . THANK YOU
Good attempt at spin. Everyone but the most sycophantic followers like yourslef realize what an embarassment and flop this was.
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this was another instance of Obama making promises he cant deliver on. Yet, you suckers buy into it every time.
I BELIEVE THIS IS WHAT THEY CALL SPIN
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NO not spin...Barry went there to "close the deal"...he thought he would easily get it, not get shitcanned on the first ballot. Did he promise it...no but the fact that he went at all means he thought he had it, as did his cronies. Barry must understand that while Europe is all happy with a black weak president here, that shit doesn't fly over there. Its not about Barry, they could care less. Now u have idiots blaming Bush for this. Barry couldn't deliver AGAIN.
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Look at the dimwits trying to spin the truth and justify their Obama insecurities.
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Look at the dimwits trying to spin the truth and justify their Obama insecurities.
The truth is that Obama is one repeating failure with everything anything he goes near.
Stimulus = failure
Cash for Clunkers = failure
Health Care = failure
Meeting with your war commanders once in 70 days = failure
Radical Czars and freaks in the cabinet = failure
Chicago 2016 = failure
World Apology tour = failure
Debt & monetary policy = failure
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The reason this whole fiasco blew up is because Obama made it about him and his wife. Despite what you may believe, the world is laughing their collective asses off at these two fools and they smacked him down.
Additionally, 2016 Chicago would have been an embarassment for this country because of the corruption and massive losses $$$ wise we would have suffered.
Finally, Chicago never had a chance in the first place, and this was another instance of Obama making promises he cant deliver on. Yet, you suckers buy into it every time.
I was visiting a local Gold's Gym, when I heard this on the news. It's a good thing I was only doing calves, or else I would have crushed myself, after exploding in laughter.
You're right! There were people actually in shock that CHICAGO wasn't even close in the ruling. And both you and HH6 were dead on the money. In typical fashion, the liberals tried to blame Bush for this. One commentator suggested that maybe this was some sort of disenchantment with America, over the past 8 years.
That was utterly ridiculous. For goodness sake, they were talking about CHICAGO. Who in the world would want to hold the Olympics there?
I can see if it were Miami, or Atlanta (as it was back in '96), but Chicago? PLEASE!! And, oh by the way, this trip by Team Obama was fresh off that high-profile story of that honor student getting beaten to death!!!
Let's see: Rio de Janiero vs. Chicago, IL.......THERE'S A TOUGH ONE!!! ::)
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Every quote that he played by Rush and Beck were the truth. McCrystal (whom Obama appointed) is trying to make a plea for 40,000 more troops in Afghanistan telling him we can't wait any longer for an answer or we may lose this war, and this dipshit and his wife and freaking talk show host are worried about the freaking Olympics coming to his city. Obama has his priorities so screwed up he don't know which way up.
Once again, Rush was right!
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Chicago never ever had even a remote chance yet Obama made it about him and made people believe his star power was going to deliver the olympics to Chicago.
This was a self created failure/ You cant blame Bush, Palin. Rush, Beck or anyone for this embarassment.
Everyone with a brain knew Rio was getting this and i said so before the announcement was amde. Look it up.
OOOHHHHH!!! But they tried to blame Bush for this. Supposedly, the folks were disenchanted with the USA, regarding the previous administration. Nothing to do with a sorry site for the Olympics in the USA, from the get-go.
Obama himself didn't promise it, but as has been mentioned, the media folks (mostly local) ran their mouths as if Oprah and the Obamas were going to bring it home.
The egg-on-the-face wasn't that Chicago didn't get it (after all, there can be only one winner). It was that Chicago WASN'T EVEN CLOSE, not even a factor in the bidding.
Now, the Obama squad is blaming everyone else for this minor, yet embarrassing, issue.
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this is the jack ass that believes the majority of ppl in america wants a public option...enought said
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this is the jack ass that believes the majority of ppl in america wants a public option...enought said
This is the problem with this administration. The people can tell them, in as plain a language as you can get, that they don't want the public option. Yet, some folks still want to convince themselves that the vote for Obama last year was a blank political check for the Dems to do anything they want.
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access to a choice for the public option is currently polling @ 77% in favor
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/20/new-poll-77-percent-suppo_n_264375.html
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access to a choice for the public option is currently polling @ 77% in favor
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/20/new-poll-77-percent-suppo_n_264375.html
SUUUUUURE!!! That's why these town hall meetings have certain Dems afraid to even show up, with others being blasted out of the buildings when they do.
Or why Obama's ratings have dropped drastically since this whole healthcare debacle surfaced.
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SUUUUUURE!!! That's why these town hall meetings have certain Dems afraid to even show up, with others being blasted out of the buildings when they do.
Or why Obama's ratings have dropped drastically since this whole healthcare debacle surfaced.
A bunch of videos of idiots at town hall meetings is not a scientific poll (I know you're a fundie so you're not too keen on science)
Obama's ratings have drop in large part because the people who voted for him are impatient and want him to stop trying to be bi-partisan and move forward with his agenda.
Here's another poll that show a majority of physicians also favor the choice of a public option:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/14/majority-of-doctors-back_n_286352.html
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A bunch of videos of idiots at town hall meetings is not a scientific poll (I know you're a fundie so you're not too keen on science)
Obama's ratings have drop in large part because the people who voted for him are impatient and want him to stop trying to be bi-partisan and move forward with his agenda.
Here's another poll that show a majority of physicians also favor the choice of a public option:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/14/majority-of-doctors-back_n_286352.html
If 77% of people wanted the public option, Obama wouldn't be having the problems that he is with the issue. And, like the Obama-ites in Washington, you are foolishly dismissing the concerns of the people, who've made their concerns known at these meetings.
Keep telling yourself that 77% of people support this mess.
As for your stupid comment about my not liking "scientific" polls, or science, the last time someone touted a poll about an issue, supposedly reflecting the mood of the people of an issue, it was those folks in CA, crowing about support for gay "marriage" and opposition to Prop. 8.
We all know how that turned out.
As for Obama, his ratings are dropping, because people are starting to see the gap between what he campaigned to be and what he actually is.
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If 7% of people wanted the public option, Obama wouldn't be having the problems that he is with the issue. And, like the Obama-ites in Washington, you are foolishly dismissing the concerns of the people, who've made their concerns known at these meetings.
Keep telling yourself that 767% of people support this mess.
As for your stupid comment about my not liking "scientific" polls, or science, the last time someone touted a poll about an issue, supposedly reflecting the mood of the people of an issue, it was those folks in CA, crowing about support for gay "marriage" and opposition to Prop. 8.
We all know how that turned out.
the reason why we can't get some traction on the public option is because we have a few Senators (from sparsely populated states) who have been in the Senate for years and are more beholden to their corporate benefactors than they are to the people they represent.
It isn't any more complicated than that
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the reason why we can't get some traction on the public option is because we have a few Senators (from sparsely populated states) who have been in the Senate for years and are more beholden to their corporate benefactors than they are to the people they represent.
It isn't any more complicated than that
Wrong on that one. "We" can't get some traction because "we" don't want the public option (or the ungodly price tag) that comes with "Obamacare".
The people have told those senators to their faces and by their dwindling support of those candidates how they feel. Yet, folks like you continue to be in denial. I guess it won't dawn on certain liberals, until they get booted out of office.
And yet, you're going to sit here and claim that a few Senators from sparsely-populated states are holding the works, despite this allegedly overwhelming amount of support.
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Wrong on that one. "We" can't get some traction because "we" don't want the public option (or the ungodly price tag) that comes with "Obamacare".
The people have told those senators to their faces and by their dwindling support of those candidates how they feel. Yet, folks like you continue to be in denial. I guess it won't dawn on certain liberals, until they get booted out of office.
And yet, you're going to sit here and claim that a few Senators from sparsely-populated states are holding the works, despite this allegedly overwhelming amount of support.
fyi - there is no such thing as Obamacare
who is the "we" you are talking about?
when did you get a vote on the Finance Committee or in the House/Senate?
I'm not going to waste my time trying to have a dialogue with you
believe whatever you want and I'll do the same
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fyi - there is no such thing as Obamacare
who is the "we" you are talking about?
when did you get a vote on the Finance Committee or in the House/Senate?
I'm not going to waste my time trying to have a dialogue with you
believe whatever you want and I'll do the same
You're the one who said that "we" couldn't get any traction on healthcare.
Your claims make no sense, nor can you make the case about 77% of folks supposedly supporting the public option, especially with Obama's woes on this issue as of late.
So, run off now and come up with another excuse.
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You're the one who said that "we" couldn't get any traction on healthcare.
Your claims make no sense, nor can you make the case about 77% of folks supposedly supporting the public option, especially with Obama's woes on this issue as of late.
So, run off now and come up with another excuse.
no traction = voted down twice in Finance Committee (including a No by Max Baucus who has been in the Senate since 1978, represents a state with less than a million people, and has taken millions of dollars from health insurance and related companies)
There are literally more people in my city (San Jose, CA) than the entire state of Montana.
You and I have never agreed on anything so why should either of us waste our time talking to each other
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can anyone provide a poll showing a majority of americans DO NOT support a public option?
I've seen several with majority supporting it.
And "town hall meeting full of people show..." doesn't mean much. Many cities in America could eaily pack a town hall with either KKK or Black panther supporters - It sure doesn't mean the majority of americans feel that way?
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can anyone provide a poll showing a majority of americans DO NOT support a public option?
I've seen several with majority supporting it.
There's this one, but the Huffington Post folks claims that it's "controversial".
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/08/18/2033674.aspx (http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/08/18/2033674.aspx)
And "town hall meeting full of people show..." doesn't mean much. Many cities in America could eaily pack a town hall with either KKK or Black panther supporters - It sure doesn't mean the majority of americans feel that way?
Yet, all these meetings just HAPPEN to coincide with Obama's plunging approval ratings and just HAPPEN to coincide with the Dems' inability to get their bill through.
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There's this one, but the Huffington Post folks claims that it's "controversial".
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/08/18/2033674.aspx (http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/08/18/2033674.aspx)
Yet, all these meetings just HAPPEN to coincide with Obama's plunging approval ratings and just HAPPEN to coincide with the Dems' inability to get their bill through.
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you can get a bunch of pissed off idiots together for any cause, you know that. If obama decided to have his own series of town halls, we both know he could get 1000 rude a-holes in a church to scream for the MSN cameras just like the right does.
When a party tells their die-hard loyalists to show up, they will. When there's cameras, they do obnoxious shit. Did you see the teabaggers on Daily Show bragging about how Glen Beck is their leader? LMAO... there are nutjobs on both sides. Attendance at town halls is no indicator of sentiment....
That's what the polls are for. And the last two times, these vocal teabagging townhall fighters didn't bother showing up. If half the folks screaming about "i dont want the govt messing with my medicare" had showed up for palinflake/old guy in 2008, Obama would have lost the election and this wouldn't be an issue.
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There's this one, but the Huffington Post folks claims that it's "controversial".
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/08/18/2033674.aspx (http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/08/18/2033674.aspx)
Yet, all these meetings just HAPPEN to coincide with Obama's plunging approval ratings and just HAPPEN to coincide with the Dems' inability to get their bill through.
connect the dots for us
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guys, we would have seen these same angry town hall screamers duing the 2008 campaign.
obama was smart enough not to agree to meet Mccain for a series of them.
Wait - Obama DID agree to a July 4 town hall. Oddly, mccain refused. He should have taken the chance.
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Here's another poll that has it at a "draw".
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/june_2009/41_favor_public_sector_health_care_option_41_disagree (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/june_2009/41_favor_public_sector_health_care_option_41_disagree)
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Chicago never ever had even a remote chance yet Obama made it about him and made people believe his star power was going to deliver the olympics to Chicago.
This was a self created failure/ You cant blame Bush, Palin. Rush, Beck or anyone for this embarassment.
Everyone with a brain knew Rio was getting this and i said so before the announcement was amde. Look it up.
omg... what politician doesn't shoot for popularity? Now when they have it and the people are behind them you can judge them harsly for misuse of that populartiy and Obama has plenty of that aimed at him and some of it justified. BUT, when he does something like this? And you fuckers attack it? Are you fucking kidding me? Yet another reason why I can't take anything you say serious.
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you can get a bunch of pissed off idiots together for any cause, you know that. If obama decided to have his own series of town halls, we both know he could get 1000 rude a-holes in a church to scream for the MSN cameras just like the right does.
When a party tells their die-hard loyalists to show up, they will. When there's cameras, they do obnoxious shit. Did you see the teabaggers on Daily Show bragging about how Glen Beck is their leader? LMAO... there are nutjobs on both sides. Attendance at town halls is no indicator of sentiment....
That's what the polls are for. And the last two times, these vocal teabagging townhall fighters didn't bother showing up. If half the folks screaming about "i dont want the govt messing with my medicare" had showed up for palinflake/old guy in 2008, Obama would have lost the election and this wouldn't be an issue.
Healthcare wasn't the only issue on the table. Actually, it was at least 3rd fiddle, behind Iraq and the ECONOMY.
As for the polls, again sometimes you have to take them with a grain of salt. Again, I refer you to the polls in California, regarding Prop. 8, that claimed that Prop. 8 would be defeated handily by the voters due to their alleged support of gay "marriage". And some of those polls were just a couple of weeks before election day.
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omg... what politician doesn't shoot for popularity? Now when they have it and the people are behind them you can judge them harsly for misuse of that populartiy and Obama has plenty of that aimed at him and some of it justified. BUT, when he does something like this? And you fuckers attack it? Are you fucking kidding me? Yet another reason why I can't take anything you say serious.
Actually no president has ever done this before Hugo. He and his wife took two seperate jets costing millions and millions of dollars for this, while the damn Commander of Afhg. only gets 25 minutes on the tarmac?
WTF is up with that Hugo?
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Actually no president has ever done this before Hugo. He and his wife took two seperate jets costing millions and millions of dollars for this, while the damn Commander of Afhg. only gets 25 minutes on the tarmac?
WTF is up with that Hugo?
TWO SEPARATE JETS?? What about the carbon footprint?
The treehuggers must be weeping and gnashing their teeth!!!
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Calculating the carbon footprint of President Obama’s Olympic trip
October 2, 4:20 PM
Climate Change Examiner
Tony HakePrevious
How much CO2 did President Barack Obama emit on a trip to
Copenhagen to try to help Chicago's bid to host the Olympics?President of the United States Barack Obama and his wife Michelle flew to Copenhagen, Denmark to help the city of Chicago in their bid to host the 2016 Olympics. It was announced today that the bid had failed as Chicago was the first city eliminated of the four vying for the games. Tokyo, Rio de Janeiro, and Madrid were the other three cities with Rio de Janeiro finally being awarded the games.
The president has come under fire politically for taking the 4,050 mile trip when the nation is facing a number of pressing issues at home including a faltering economy and a heated debate about health care. Of interest to those seeking to protect our climate is the cost in terms of carbon emissions that the failed trip cost. Airplanes emit a great deal of carbon dioxide, the trace gas thought to be the major cause of global warming.
We have put together a very rough estimate of the cost in terms of carbon emissions of a trip by the President of the United States to Copenhagen.
Air Force One - President Barack Obama
Distance from Washington D.C. to Copenhagen, Denmark, round trip: 8,100 miles
Air Force One (Boeing 747 / VC-25A) cruising speed: 576mph
Fuel used by Boeing 747 per hour: 3,378 gallons
Flight time round trip: 14.06 hours one-way (assuming direct, straight-line flight)
Fuel consumed during round trip flight to Denmark: 47,503 gallons or 296,894 lbs (6.25 lbs / gal)
Carbon emissions of the flight: 1,031 tons of CO2 *
Total warming effect of CO2 for flight: 2,785 tons of CO2 **
Those calculations are for one airplane however. The president always has a second, spare airplane that goes along as well therefore the total must be multipled by two.
Total warming effect of CO2 for two Air Force One planes: 5,571 tons of CO2 *
First Lady Michelle Obama
The first lady flew to Copenhagen aboard an Air Force 737 (C40) in advance of the president. Judging from the video of her arrival, this was a 737-800, a very fuel efficient plane by comparison to Air Force One.
Boeing 737-800 cruising speed: 514 mph
Fuel used by Boeing 737 per hour: 786 gallons
Flight time: 15.75 hours one-way (assuming direct, straight-line flight)
Fuel consumed during round trip flight to Denmark: 12,386 gallons or 77,714 lbs
Carbon emissions of the flight: 269 tons of CO2
Total warming effect of CO2 for flight: 726 tons of CO2
Additional aircraft
According to the White House’s website, “Several cargo planes typically fly ahead of Air Force One to provide the President with services needed in remote locations.” These include carrying the vehicles for his motorcade, Secret Service personnel, an advance scout detail and more. The exact details of the planes and the number of them is of course top secret but let’s assume there were three planes, comparable to the one Michelle Obama flew.
Total warming effect of CO2 for additional aircraft: 3 X 726 = 2,178 tons of CO2
The Final Tally
5,571 tons CO2 for President Obama
726 tons CO2 for first lady Michelle Obama
2,178 tons CO2 for support aircraft
Grand Total: 8,379 tons CO2 for trip to Copenhagen
By comparison, the average American household has a carbon footprint of 19.5 tons of CO2 per year.
Therefore, President Obama's two day trip deposited as much CO2 into the atmosphere as 430 American families do in an entire year.
Assumptions
* Emissions based on standard rate of 6.95 lbs CO2 / lb aviation fuel
** Total warming effect based on 2.7 multipler the IPCC uses due to the fact a plane flying at altitude does more damage to the atmosphere (radiative forcing) and emits ozone and water vapor.
Editor’s note: This is not a scientific analysis of the CO2 emissions of the president’s trip. It is merely being done as an exercise to determine approximations of the emissions. It uses accepted constants for the fuel emissions and the multiplier of total effect. A full analysis would require taking into account wind speeds, takeoff and landing fuel usage and much more. Further, this only takes into account the airplane emissions and not those of the array of ground vehicles that ferry and accompany the president.
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Calculating the carbon footprint of President Obama’s Olympic trip
October 2, 4:20 PM
Climate Change Examiner
Tony HakePrevious
How much CO2 did President Barack Obama emit on a trip to
Copenhagen to try to help Chicago's bid to host the Olympics?President of the United States Barack Obama and his wife Michelle flew to Copenhagen, Denmark to help the city of Chicago in their bid to host the 2016 Olympics. It was announced today that the bid had failed as Chicago was the first city eliminated of the four vying for the games. Tokyo, Rio de Janeiro, and Madrid were the other three cities with Rio de Janeiro finally being awarded the games.
The president has come under fire politically for taking the 4,050 mile trip when the nation is facing a number of pressing issues at home including a faltering economy and a heated debate about health care. Of interest to those seeking to protect our climate is the cost in terms of carbon emissions that the failed trip cost. Airplanes emit a great deal of carbon dioxide, the trace gas thought to be the major cause of global warming.
We have put together a very rough estimate of the cost in terms of carbon emissions of a trip by the President of the United States to Copenhagen.
Air Force One - President Barack Obama
Distance from Washington D.C. to Copenhagen, Denmark, round trip: 8,100 miles
Air Force One (Boeing 747 / VC-25A) cruising speed: 576mph
Fuel used by Boeing 747 per hour: 3,378 gallons
Flight time round trip: 14.06 hours one-way (assuming direct, straight-line flight)
Fuel consumed during round trip flight to Denmark: 47,503 gallons or 296,894 lbs (6.25 lbs / gal)
Carbon emissions of the flight: 1,031 tons of CO2 *
Total warming effect of CO2 for flight: 2,785 tons of CO2 **
Those calculations are for one airplane however. The president always has a second, spare airplane that goes along as well therefore the total must be multipled by two.
Total warming effect of CO2 for two Air Force One planes: 5,571 tons of CO2 *
First Lady Michelle Obama
The first lady flew to Copenhagen aboard an Air Force 737 (C40) in advance of the president. Judging from the video of her arrival, this was a 737-800, a very fuel efficient plane by comparison to Air Force One.
Boeing 737-800 cruising speed: 514 mph
Fuel used by Boeing 737 per hour: 786 gallons
Flight time: 15.75 hours one-way (assuming direct, straight-line flight)
Fuel consumed during round trip flight to Denmark: 12,386 gallons or 77,714 lbs
Carbon emissions of the flight: 269 tons of CO2
Total warming effect of CO2 for flight: 726 tons of CO2
Additional aircraft
According to the White House’s website, “Several cargo planes typically fly ahead of Air Force One to provide the President with services needed in remote locations.” These include carrying the vehicles for his motorcade, Secret Service personnel, an advance scout detail and more. The exact details of the planes and the number of them is of course top secret but let’s assume there were three planes, comparable to the one Michelle Obama flew.
Total warming effect of CO2 for additional aircraft: 3 X 726 = 2,178 tons of CO2
The Final Tally
5,571 tons CO2 for President Obama
726 tons CO2 for first lady Michelle Obama
2,178 tons CO2 for support aircraft
Grand Total: 8,379 tons CO2 for trip to Copenhagen
By comparison, the average American household has a carbon footprint of 19.5 tons of CO2 per year.
Therefore, President Obama's two day trip deposited as much CO2 into the atmosphere as 430 American families do in an entire year.
Assumptions
* Emissions based on standard rate of 6.95 lbs CO2 / lb aviation fuel
** Total warming effect based on 2.7 multipler the IPCC uses due to the fact a plane flying at altitude does more damage to the atmosphere (radiative forcing) and emits ozone and water vapor.
Editor’s note: This is not a scientific analysis of the CO2 emissions of the president’s trip. It is merely being done as an exercise to determine approximations of the emissions. It uses accepted constants for the fuel emissions and the multiplier of total effect. A full analysis would require taking into account wind speeds, takeoff and landing fuel usage and much more. Further, this only takes into account the airplane emissions and not those of the array of ground vehicles that ferry and accompany the president.
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OH THE HORROR!!! What will become of the inverted spotted Japanese Alaskan dodo bird (all four of them)!!!!?
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430 combined familes' usage of energy for one year for this self indulgent garbage.
We could cut down on a huge amount of energy use if we only cut our "leaders" off from traveling all over the place and making them pay their own way if they want to fly all over the world.
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They should make fun of that arrogant jackass and his tranny wife.They think the world loves them more then they hate the US.They are wrong.Rush also predicted that by the end of Friday he and Bush would be blamed.Well,Ed Shultz came on television and blamed Rush.Then Burris blamed Bush.The libs are so predictable,Rush can sniff them out before they do ANYTHING.
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They should make fun of that arrogant jackass and his tranny wife.They think the world loves them more then they hate the US.They are wrong.Rush also predicted that by the end of Friday he and Bush would be blamed.Well,Ed Shultz came on television and blamed Rush.Then Burris blamed Bush.The libs are so predictable,Rush can sniff them out before they do ANYTHING.
The hysterical part to me was how the kool aiders genuinely believed that Dear Leaders' alleged popularity would be enough to sway the votes away from Rio to that hell hole Chicago. Anyone with a clue knew Chicago never had a chance.
Just because 52% of population in this country was fooled into voting for this moron does not mean the rest of the world or the IOC would is going to do the same.
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The hysterical part to me was how the kool aiders genuinely believed that Dear Leaders' alleged popularity would be enough to sway the votes away from Rio to that hell hole Chicago. Anyone with a clue knew Chicago never had a chance.
Just because 52% of population in this country was fooled into voting for this moron does not mean the rest of the world or the IOC would is going to do the same.
IF Obama has proposed Miami or Atlanta as the cite, he might have had a better shot. But Chicago? GET REAL!!!
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IF Obama has proposed Miami or Atlanta as the cite, he might have had a better shot. But Chicago? GET REAL!!!
Chicago was actually picked as a possibility years ago from what i understand. Either way, it was a complete failure on the part of Obama nd the admn from a PR point of view.
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Chicago was actually picked as a possibility years ago from what i understand. Either way, it was a complete failure on the part of Obama nd the admn from a PR point of view.
That's because they didn't access their chances realistically. As HH6 said, Obama flew there to seal the deal. And the Chicago media hyped this up as two-city race (in bodybuilding terms, think of Pumping Iron trying to paint the Mr. Universe contest as a two-man show, between Waller and Katz).
In actuality, Rio played the role of Waller; while, Chicago filled Katz's spot.
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The reason this whole fiasco blew up is because Obama made it about him and his wife. Despite what you may believe, the world is laughing their collective asses off at these two fools and they smacked him down.
Additionally, 2016 Chicago would have been an embarassment for this country because of the corruption and massive losses $$$ wise we would have suffered.
Finally, Chicago never had a chance in the first place, and this was another instance of Obama making promises he cant deliver on. Yet, you suckers buy into it every time.
No he didnt...it was a loose loose..there has never been an olympics in south america so chicago wasnt gonna get the bid anyway...but...if obama wouldnt have gotten involved...what do you think the headlines would have been from the right. "obama dosent even go to bat for his home town", "obama dosent love america, he didnt fight hard enogh for the olympics..." Those fucks make me want to throw up. They arent americans. They wish for america to fail..The country is collateral damage when it comes to trying to humiliate the president..Shit is hilarious...Newt went all crazy on bill clinton when he had the cock sucking thing...but where is he with senator from nevada... havent heard anything from him..i know he aint in office..but he playin politics...
The Obamacare thing...really...dude has nothing to do with socialized medicine, it has all to do with providing 47mil AMERICANS with health insurance...a choice...The only ones that should be mad should be Blue cross etc...It isnt a disbandment of private insurance companies, it is introducing competetion to their fucked up ass policies...
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Actually no president has ever done this before Hugo. He and his wife took two seperate jets costing millions and millions of dollars for this, while the damn Commander of Afhg. only gets 25 minutes on the tarmac?
WTF is up with that Hugo?
WTF is up with you 3333. I think Benny's latest thread sums it up nicely ;D
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=300834.0
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No he didnt...it was a loose loose..there has never been an olympics in south america so chicago wasnt gonna get the bid anyway...but...if obama wouldnt have gotten involved...what do you think the headlines would have been from the right. "obama dosent even go to bat for his home town", "obama dosent love america, he didnt fight hard enogh for the olympics..." Those fucks make me want to throw up. They arent americans. They wish for america to fail..The country is collateral damage when it comes to trying to humiliate the president..Shit is hilarious...Newt went all crazy on bill clinton when he had the cock sucking thing...but where is he with senator from nevada... havent heard anything from him..i know he aint in office..but he playin politics...
The Obamacare thing...really...dude has nothing to do with socialized medicine, it has all to do with providing 47mil AMERICANS with health insurance...a choice...The only ones that should be mad should be Blue cross etc...It isnt a disbandment of private insurance companies, it is introducing competetion to their fucked up ass policies...
Mal - you are a nice guy, but seriously misinformed.
They are massively cutting the medicare and medicaid reimursements to doctors to pay for this. The only ones who are going to suffer are the idiots paying for insurance and doctors whose salaries are going to get whacked.
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Mal - you are a nice guy, but seriously misinformed.
They are massively cutting the medicare and medicaid reimursements to doctors to pay for this. The only ones who are going to suffer are the idiots paying for insurance and doctors whose salaries are going to get whacked.
ill look for that in the initial bill
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WTF is up with you 3333. I think Benny's latest thread sums it up nicely ;D
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=300834.0
I dont like the hyprocrisy of jerks like Obama telling me what type of toilet I can use and what type of light bulb I can have when he and his wife jet set all over the place on self aggrandazing tours that in one day use the equivalent of 430 families combined yearly energy usage.
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I dont like the hyprocrisy of jerks like Obama telling me what type of toilet I can use and what type of light bulb I can have when he and his wife jet set all over the place on self aggrandazing tours that in one day use the equivalent of 430 families combined yearly energy usage.
Let this fraud start cutting back energy use himself beforing hitting the rest of us with higher costs that we all have to pay for. Remember this little diddy Hugo?
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I dont like the hyprocrisy of jerks like Obama telling me what type of toilet I can use and what type of light bulb I can have when he and his wife jet set all over the place on self aggrandazing tours that in one day use the equivalent of 430 families combined yearly energy usage.
Where has he dictated what you can and can not use?
The man has the highest ranking office in the free world. He is going to be entitled to perks to the job that are above and beyond. If you can't accept that, you are hopeless.
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Where has he dictated what you can and can not use?
The man has the highest ranking office in the free world. He is going to be entitled to perks to the job that are above and beyond. If you can't accept that, you are hopeless.
Cap & Trade has so many regulations and provisions in it you have no idea. Additionally, they are regulating regular light bulbs out of existence.
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Cap & Trade has so many regulations and provisions in it you have no idea. Additionally, they are regulating regular light bulbs out of existence.
has it passed?
if not, you haven't provided anything of substance to my question on what he dictated you can and can not buy.
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LOL.... I remember the phrase 'whiny liberals' being used a lot during the bush era.
However, I don't remember libs pissing and moaning about how much gas Bush's plane used on trips for international reasons.
hahahaha repubs are the new crybaby libs!
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LOL.... I remember the phrase 'whiny liberals' being used a lot during the bush era.
However, I don't remember libs pissing and moaning about how much gas Bush's plane used on trips for international reasons.
hahahaha repubs are the new crybaby libs!
Only about his trips to crawford and trips to the gym.
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Only about his trips to crawford and trips to the gym.
do you have links to those posts?
Which people here were crying about the fuel his plane used?
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do you have links to those posts?
Which people here were crying about the fuel his plane used?
I dont remember Bush decrying Americas' use of energy and desire for caps on peoples energy use and hiking energy taxes.
Its the hypocrisy stupid.
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I dont remember Bush decrying Americas' use of energy and desire for caps on peoples energy use and hiking energy taxes.
Its the hypocrisy stupid.
nice dodge ::)
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nice dodge ::)
Hugo - I dont expect you to play dumb like 240 does. GWB used to get bashed all the time for his "vacations" at the ranch at crawford.
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Hugo - I dont expect you to play dumb like 240 does. GWB used to get bashed all the time for his "vacations" at the ranch at crawford.
But you are not bashing Obama for a vacation are you? But a carbon footprint. Let's try to stick to one topic at a time.
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But you are not bashing Obama for a vacation are you? But a carbon footprint. Let's try to stick to one topic at a time.
Frankly, I wish Obama would go on a vacation for the next three years and stay in Chicago with Rezko, Rev. Wright, Ayers, Dohrn, Farrakhan, and Khalidi. ;D ;D ;D