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Yates not only had the best FLS of the 90's, but the best FLS of all time. The thickness of his lats are unmatched.
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Yates not only had the best FLS of the 90's, but the best FLS of all time. The thickness of his lats are unmatched.
True. No one's ever looked better in that pose
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Yates not only had the best FLS of the 90's, but the best FLS of all time. The thickness of his lats are unmatched.
yates without a doubt had the best lats in history but his relatively weak arms were affecting this pose a little bit.. his version of 93 could be the best in history to hit this pose.. lee haney too was incomparable in the 80 and early 90s in this pose.. also when nasser was hitting this pose right (as in this pic.) he was outstanding..
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(http://www.ironage.us/virtual/virtual7/king-haney.jpg)
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And just to save him the trouble...
[Hulkster] Yes, Dorian had a decent FLS up until 93.
But he was beaten at the game by Ronnie when he showed up looking like he did at the 99 Olympia.
And this is true, no matter what the nuthuggers say or believe ::)
Dorian never looked like this ever
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=300328.0;attach=341995;image)
You need arms to look good from any angle, as this pic proves
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=300328.0;attach=341979;image)
Yet, the nuthuggers will claim Dorian with a torn arm is better ::) [/Hulkster]
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And just to save him the trouble...
[Hulkster] Yes, Dorian had a decent FLS up until 93.
But he was beaten at the game by Ronnie when he showed up looking like he did at the 99 Olympia.
And this is true, no matter what the nuthuggers say or believe ::)
Dorian never looked like this ever
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=300328.0;attach=341995;image)
You need arms to look good from any angle, as this pic proves
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=300328.0;attach=341979;image)
Yet, the nuthuggers will claim Dorian with a torn arm is better ::) [/Hulkster]
and of course ND will answer as below ;D..
question to ronnie: do you think you would beat dorian if he competed at mr. o. 98..
ronnie: no he was going to win..
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then team nasser, most probably Sherief Shalaby will post this pic ;D
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then one of the many assholes here will insult bobs and shalaby that they buy nasser's used underwears ::)
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then team nasser, most probably Sherief Shalaby will post this pic ;D
Hahaha yeah, this pattern is very strong.
I did a whole thread preview a while ago
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=275849.msg3890645#msg3890645
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Hahaha yeah, this pattern is very strong.
I did a whole thread preview a while ago
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=275849.msg3890645#msg3890645
lol this is hilarious!
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True. No one's ever looked better in that pose
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay Overrated bodybuilder, if not the most overrated ever, :-\
May be that is his best shot, but let’s see what he is missing to consider that as the best FLS ever!!
weak arms all over (biceps & triceps fullness is not presence), Shoulders don’t flow with the lats, small not detailed legs compared to upper body and I am sure his calves are killing his quad on that pose. Therefore, this pose is not considered as one of the good ones! ;)
These are the best FLS poses ever ..
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Everytime I see a thread started by Sherief Shalaby, I automatically know that it's about his love god ( lots of Muslim homo ) and wonder why I actually click on the thread.
...then I see the savage ownings.
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Everytime I see a thread started by Sherief Shalaby, I automatically know that it's about his love god ( lots of Muslim homo ) and wonder why I actually click on the thread.
...then I see the savage ownings.
because you are stupid!.. i see no other reason :-\
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because you are stupid!.. i see no other reason :-\
you, my muslim, are fanatic.
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you, my muslim, are fanatic.
no at all, especially here, i come only to talk about bb but a lot of assholes always convert anything to be religion related!!..
I am just a bb fan with abs no more no less..
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Typical of you to use a shitty picture of Yates not even from his best year. This pose Dorian owns Nasser isn't in the same league and neither is Ronnie or Haney and no one since has had a better one
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no at all, especially here, i come only to talk about Nasser but a lot of assholes always convert anything to be religion related!!..
I am just a Nasser fan with abs no more no less..
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Typical of you to use a shitty picture of Yates not even from his best year. This pose Dorian owns Nasser isn't in the same league and neither is Ronnie or Haney and no one since has had a better one
1) i didnt use a shitty pic. of dorian, this pic. is on the cover of the dvd of the english GB contest (which he won),.. the quality of nasser's pic. which is from the same contest is shitty too..
2) i never said that nasser was better than dorian (at his best) in this pose..
3) you are an asshole although sometimes i feel you are not!!..
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it's funny you are mocking me for posting about nasser all the time with a pic. of dorian which has nothing to do with my comment!!.. this shows that you too posts about yates all the time, when it's the right time and when it's not!!.. :
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1) i didnt use a shitty pic. of dorian, this pic. is on the cover of the dvd of the english GB contest (which he won),.. the quality of nasser's pic. which is from the same contest is shitty too..
2) i never said that nasser was better at dorian (at his best) in this pose..
3) you are an asshole although sometimes i feel you are not!!..
1) you just contradicted yourself
2) yes you did hence why you included Nasser in the picture
3) when I start the race & religion shit then you can call me an asshole ;)
You shouldn't have included Nasser is a " Best FLS in the 90s! " he doesn't belong especially not next to Dorian Yates who has the best FLS in the history of the sport
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it's funny you are mocking me for posting about nasser all the time with a pic. of dorian which has nothing to do with my comment!!.. this shows that you too posts about yates all the time, when it's the right time and when it's not!!.. :
Wrong I don't post about Yates all the time , it's all you see because I'm busy correcting you in the numerous Yates threads you create , you post about Yates and Nasser all the time it's all you know
go check my post history and see what other topics I post in . ;)
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1) you just contradicted yourself
2) yes you did hence why you included Nasser in the picture
3) when I start the race & religion shit then you can call me an asshole ;)
You shouldn't have included Nasser is a " Best FLS in the 90s! " he doesn't belong especially not next to Dorian Yates who has the best FLS in the history of the sport
so in your opinion beside dorian and lee haney who else had great FLS in the 90s??..
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Wrong I don't post about Yates all the time , it's all you see because I'm busy correcting you in the numerous Yates threads you create , you post about Yates and Nasser all the time it's all you know
go check my post history and see what other topics I post in . ;)
you too go and check my posting history :-X
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so in your opinion beside dorian and lee haney who else had great FLS in the 90s??..
Who cares the pose stops with Yates there hasn't been a better one since
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And just to save him the trouble...
[Hulkster] Yes, Dorian had a decent FLS up until 93.
But he was beaten at the game by Ronnie when he showed up looking like he did at the 99 Olympia.
And this is true, no matter what the nuthuggers say or believe ::)
Dorian never looked like this ever
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=300328.0;attach=341995;image)
You need arms to look good from any angle, as this pic proves
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=300328.0;attach=341979;image)
Yet, the nuthuggers will claim Dorian with a torn arm is better ::) [/Hulkster]
LMFAO! Nice one!
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Who cares the pose stops with Yates there hasn't been a better one since
you said that nasser should have not been mentioned among the best in this pose in the 90s, so according to you there were at least 4 or 5 guys who were better than him in this pose, mention them instead of saying (who cares) :-\
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And just to save him the trouble...
[Hulkster] Yes, Dorian had a decent FLS up until 93.
But he was beaten at the game by Ronnie when he showed up looking like he did at the 99 Olympia.
And this is true, no matter what the nuthuggers say or believe ::)
Dorian never looked like this ever
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=300328.0;attach=341995;image)
You need arms to look good from any angle, as this pic proves
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=300328.0;attach=341979;image)
Yet, the nuthuggers will claim Dorian with a torn arm is better ::) [/Hulkster]
meltdown
Thanks for proving my points Hulkster oh wait ........................ lmfao
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you said that nasser should have not been mentioned among the best in this pose in the 90s, so according to you there were at least 4 or 5 guys who were better than him in this pose, mention them instead of saying (who cares) :-\
You have a very bad habit of speaking for me , show me where exactly I ever claimed the were at least 4 or 5 guys who were better
Nasser shouldn't be mentioned next to Dorian in this pose . Nasser's front latspread wasn't anything spectacular he didn't even know how to properly execute it ( among other poses )
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You have a very bad habit of speaking for me , show me where exactly I ever claimed the were at least 4 or 5 guys who were better
Nasser shouldn't be mentioned next to Dorian in this pose . Nasser's front latspread wasn't anything spectacular he didn't even know how to properly execute it ( among other poses )
ok let me simplify my question,.. according to you who else beside dorian and haney was good in this pose in the 90s??..
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ok let me simplify my question,.. according to you who else beside dorian and haney was good in this pose in the 90s??..
Looked good? a lot of people looked good in the pose however none of them looked as good as Dorian
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Looked good? a lot of people looked good in the pose however none of them looked as good as Dorian
yes dorian of 93 and 95 was the best in this pose in the 90s but this doesnt mean nasser should not be mentioned among the best in this pose as you claimed!!..
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yes dorian of 93 and 95 was the best in this pose in the 90s but this doesnt mean nasser should not be mentioned among the best in this pose as you claimed!!..
yes he shouldn't especially considering he doesn't even know how to properly execute the pose.
Dorian of 1992/1993/1994/1995/1996/1997 from perpetuity has the best front latspread
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Hi Sheriff.. great to see you supporting Yates over Nasshole
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another stupid thread by team soiled manties
i really hope the wizard of synthol is paying you guys for keeping his name out there because this is the only place that washed up googly eyed pile of camel shit is ever mentioned
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why the fuck does everything have to be abbreviated? FLS?? is it that hard to spell out "front lat spread"?
nobody fucking writes words anymore. you got have a damn abbreviation dictionary to figure out what you're fucken reading.
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why the fuck does everything have to be abbreviated? FLS?? is it that hard to spell out "front lat spread"?
nobody fucking writes words anymore. you got have a damn abbreviation dictionary to figure out what you're fucken reading.
WTF ???
GTFO, LOL
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why the fuck does everything have to be abbreviated? FLS?? is it that hard to spell out "front lat spread"?
nobody fucking writes words anymore. you got have a damn abbreviation dictionary to figure out what you're fucken reading.
depending on the context it makes sense, but it is true abt how many abbreviations there are. For example, I didn't for the longest time know what HTH and FTW meant.
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You guys forgot about Franco. I personally (not like most of you who can only read about this stuff) saw him in the gym around 1980 doing bent over rows with no shirt on and to this day never ever saw lats and a back like his. Plus his deadlift is about the most any IFBB pro has ever done. Counting the kids of today.
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You guys forgot about Franco. I personally (not like most of you who can only read about this stuff) saw him in the gym around 1980 doing bent over rows with no shirt on and to this day never ever saw lats and a back like his. Plus his deadlift is about the most any IFBB pro has ever done. Counting the kids of today.
franco's RLS was great but his FLS wasnt special..
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franco's RLS was great but his FLS wasnt special..
You couldn't be anymore off the mark ( as usual )
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You couldn't be anymore off the mark ( as usual )
wow what a perfect pic. to show how great his FLS was :-\
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wow what a perfect pic. to show how great his FLS was :-\
;) happy now?
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;) happy now?
as i said his FLS was not anything special, his lats were wide for sure but his waist too was wide and his chest looked weird in this shot!..
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forgot to add that his legs were weak which affects this pose a lot!!..
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as i said his FLS was not anything special, his lats were wide for sure but his waist too was wide and his chest looked weird in this shot!..
You're just full of nonsense , his front latspread is amazing , his upper-body is amazing he's even doing a vacuum his proportions are outstanding ! and his quads are pretty lackadasical but overall the pose is just as good as his rear
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Kevin looked great in the FLS. As for Dorian vs. Nasser, Nasser's arms are bigger, and he flexes his abs differently than Doz, but Doz looks better in the pose imo.
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Amazing shot
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then team nasser, most probably Sherief Shalaby will post this pic ;D
look how fucking bad dorians quads are there. I mean they look comparitively small with NOOOOO seperation at all.
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Great shot
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then one of the many gentlemen here will insult bobs and shalaby that they buy nasser's used underwears ::)
You do? Man, you're sick.
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Great shot
ranco's chest really looks weird in this shot, it looks like he is hitting a mm pose and not a fls!!
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Nasser's FLS is just plain stupid... flexing and crunching your abs while trying to spread your lats makes no sense at all... but we already discussed that... its not Nasser's strength displaying his physique in the best way possible...
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Nasser's FLS is just plain stupid... flexing and crunching your abs while trying to spread your lats makes no sense at all... but we already discussed that... its not Nasser's strength displaying his physique in the best way possible...
Point illustrated -- that's why it's called the Front Lat SPREAD....
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ranco's chest really looks weird in this shot, it looks like he is hitting a mm pose and not a fls!!
same can be said about Nasser's shot when he flexes his abs
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depending on the context it makes sense, but it is true abt how many abbreviations there are. For example, I didn't for the longest time know what HTH and FTW meant.
what the fuck is HTH?
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:o
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This thread was a huge backfire for Sherief Shalaby
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Here are a couple of more good 90s shots....
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This thread was a huge backfire for Sherief Shalaby
He's been missing quite a lot lately
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I was going to post in this thread, but my points have already been proven quite well. 8)
yes, ronnie 99's lat spread was better than dorian's ever was, as he had cuts, smaller waist and way better quads. and no, that morphed shot of dorian with the edited waist to make his quad sweep stand out like nothing he ever in had in real life from bb.com doesn't count. 8)
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Nasser's FLS is just plain stupid... flexing and crunching your abs while trying to spread your lats makes no sense at all... but we already discussed that... its not Nasser's strength displaying his physique in the best way possible...
but when he learned how to hit it he looked great!!..
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Point illustrated -- that's why it's called the Front Lat SPREAD....
Using your logic biceps are the most important bodypart to show in the Rear Double Biceps shot ;)
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Using your logic biceps are the most important bodypart to show in the Rear Double Biceps shot ;)
You mean BACK double biceps shot ;)
Back Double Biceps (see Figure 4)
Standing with his back to the judges, the competitor will
bend the arms and wrists as in the Front Double Biceps
pose, and will place one foot back, resting on the toes.
He will then contract the arm muscles as well as the
muscles of the shoulders, upper and lower back, thigh
and calf muscles.
The judge will first survey the arm muscles and then do
the head-to-foot survey, during which there are more
muscle groups to look at than in all of the other poses.
This includes the neck, deltoids, biceps, triceps, forearm,
trapezius, teres, infraspinatus, erector spinae, external
obliques, latissimus dorsi, gluteus, thigh biceps, and
calves. This pose, probably more than the others, will
help the judge to determine the quality of the
competitor’s muscle density, definition, and overall
balance.
they assess ALL of the muscles as well as all of the criteria , notice the last part where it says ' this pose , probably more than the others , will help the judge to determine the quality of the competitor's muscle density , definition and overall balance ' which explains why Nasser = fail
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but when he learned how to hit it he looked great!!..
He's still losing ;D
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Yates not only had the best FLS of the 90's, but the best FLS of all time. The thickness of his lats are unmatched.
this
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On stage, in competition shape, Lee Haney IMO has one of the best ever FLS the fact his biceps where never his best BP or his quads not "flaring out enough" does not detract from the Whoa factor effect and incredible V Taper, whose "better" in this pose Dorian or Lee...off stage Dorian no doubt about it... on stage in competition shape?...IMO too close to call depending on the year in question.
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On stage, in competition shape, Lee Haney IMO has one of the best ever FLS the fact his biceps where never his best BP or his quads not "flaring out enough" does not detract from the Whoa factor effect and incredible V Taper, whose "better" in this pose Dorian or Lee...off stage Dorian no doubt about it... on stage in competition shape?...IMO too close to call depending on the year in question.
AGREED!
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He's still losing ;D
oh man, if you really see dorian better than nasser in this exact shot of 97 i will doubt again that you see things through dorian's balls ;D..
as i mentioned before dorian was great in this pose at his best but not in 97 with his weak right arm and non existent left arm and his flat chest and his unseparated torn quads and his big belly, and.... shall i say more :-\
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Using your logic biceps are the most important bodypart to show in the Rear Double Biceps shot ;)
Nassir is dominating Dorian from the BACK here!! :o
It is fact that Nassir destroys Dorian all front and side poses, but this is the first time I see him destroying him from the back ;)
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oh man, if you really see dorian better than nasser in this exact shot of 97 i will doubt again that you see things through dorian's balls ;D..
as i mentioned before dorian was great in this pose at his best but not in 97 with his weak right arm and non existent left arm and his flat chest and his unseparated torn quads and his big belly, and.... shall i say more :-\
Imagine... all of those things wrong with Dorian and he is still dominating that pose! Sorry :-\
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This pic is evidence that he had the best FLS
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This pic is evidence that he had the best FLS
now Hulkster can cry it's morphed
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now Hulkster can cry it's morphed
LOL! You took the words right out of my mouth.
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don't need to 'cry' about the second one when everyone can see the cropped hips on the first one :P
nuthuggers FAIL :P
(http://internal.tbi.net/~max/Heckles/broken_record.jpg)
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Dorian had a much better FLS that Nasser; notice his superiority in conditioning as well...
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you need a better pic to prove your point.
look at nasser's right quad, it is more sliced and well conditioned than anything dorian is presenting.
97 was not a good year for dorian in terms of conditioning..
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I disagree; Nasser's quads are shaped differently (they do look sliced). However, look at the dryness of Dorian's upper body in comparison.
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you need a better pic to prove your point.
look at nasser's right quad, it is more sliced and well conditioned than anything dorian is presenting.
97 was not a good year for dorian in terms of conditioning..
hahahaha his right quads is more sliced so he wins the pose , more stupid logic by GetBig's resident idiot
and 1997 was a good year for Yates in terms of conditioning only dummies think otherwise , you don't know what constitutes great conditioning you're the moron who claimed Dorian was soft & smooth in 1995 , you know what?
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ND, we all know you are used to looking at dorian's back half, since thats where his ass is, but he does have a front side and he looked like shit..
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ND, we all know you are used to looking at dorian's back half, since thats where his ass is, but he does have a front side and he looked like shit..
Stop projecting your homo fantasies on me , you're the one who compared Ronnie's glutes from one year to the next :-X
looked like shit is a BIG difference between having conditioning problems and Ronnie was where in 1997? ;) opppsssss I guessed that meant Ronnie really , really looked like shit ;D
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Granted, 97 was a bad year for Dorian's fdb.....his MM looks good in that shot from Hulkster though. In 97 he had an awesome front relaxed (when he was in the pose!), the best FLS on stage, and an equally great ab thigh. From the side and back we all know it was game over for the competition, which is why Dorian justifiably won.
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From the front , back , sides his conditioning wasn't the problem ! torn muscles were and again what does that say about Ronnie being in 9th? ;D
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Ronnie was busy placing behind at least 5 top guys he would beat the next year due to dramatic improvements.
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I guessed that meant Ronnie really , really looked like shit
compared to what he looked like 2 years later, YES:
dorian must have been damn glad he retired:
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notice how chris is owning ronnie in 97
but ronnie is destroying chris by 99..
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Ronnie was busy placing behind at least 5 top guys he would beat the next year due to dramatic improvements.
but remember, in a desperate effort to make dorian seem better, the nuthuggers downplay any improvements ronnie made to go from 9th place to 8 Mr. O wins..
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Ronnie was busy placing behind at least 5 top guys he would beat the next year due to dramatic improvements.
in conditioning ! not in balance & proportion , not in size , not in shape , not in calves , not in anything other than being totally dried out
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notice how chris is owning ronnie in 97
but ronnie is destroying chris by 99..
JohnnyTosh GetBig 12-20-07
Hulkster, I have one question for you? .... Were you there in Long Beach in 97? Because I was. AND I was there in 93 & 95 in Atlanta & 96 in Chicago. It's been said a million times. Yates has a Thickness & density from every angle that had to be seen in person, and that NOBODY else had.
I think Milos is awesome. I would LOVE to have his body, but Yates smoked everybody in the totality of ALL poses. From the side & from the back, yates crushed everybody.
Unless you were there, you cannot really say accurately. BTW, Demilia gave me tickets right behind the judges every year.
Not flaming, but Yates reigned supreme.. YES. HIS GUT was sticking out in 97 & Nasser looked as good, or maybe a hair better from the front in 97, but when they turned to the side & rear, DORIAN ruled again.
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but remember, in a desperate effort to make dorian seem better, the nuthuggers downplay any improvements ronnie made to go from 9th place to 8 Mr. O wins..
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Bitch tits is an improvement? since when? ???
what did Ronnie improve on from 1997 to 1998? conditioning and NOTHING more he came in spot-on
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in conditioning ! not in balance & proportion , not in size , not in shape , not in calves , not in anything other than being totally dried out
LOL what do you mean not in size? ::)
look at the drastic difference in upper body and quad size here:
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http://www.truveo.com/Ronnie-Coleman-1999-Mr-Olympia-Part-Two/id/1160132027
its like night and day.
but Like I said, you try and rewrite history saying that there was no difference.. ::) ::)
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Didn't Ronnie place 6th in 1996? It would seem then that he was comparing well with the likes of Ray, Flex, Kevin, and Nasser prior to 98/99. He did improve, but it wasn't that dramatic.
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no, he actually placed a crappy 7th and never got to the posedown.
he placed 6th only AFTER nasser was dq'd for failing a diuretics test..
try as the nuthuggers may, ronnie was shitty when dorian was facing him.
facts are facts.
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LOL what do you mean not in size? ::)
look at the drastic difference in upper body and quad size here:
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its like night and day.
but Like I said, you try and rewrite history saying that there was no difference.. ::) ::)
LOL dummy I said 1998 moron , 1998 ;)
I know you're not that smart put learn to pay attention to the conversation
other than conditioning how did Ronnie improved from 1997 to 1998 , stop running and answer the question
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other than conditioning how did Ronnie improved from 1997 to 1998 , stop running and answer the question
he added visible size, especially in the back, quads and chest:
ND is now on sucicide watch..
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he added visible size, especially in the back, quads and chest:
ND is now on sucicide watch..
Hahahahahaha sure he did 255 pounds in 1997 249 pounds in 1998 yet he somehow added more size in most of his body , fantastic logic LMFAO don't mistake appearing larger for being larger that's what great conditioning does stupid
he got lighter and got bigger Bwwwwwwaaaaaahhahahahaha hahah he's not even hitting the same exact pose , the distance between the camera is different LMFAO
epic Hulkster backfire as usual
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you act like the numbers are accurate? ::)
ronnie was not 255 in 97 if he was 257 in 99
cause he was noticably bigger in 99..a hell of a lot more than a measly 2 pounds.
and ronnie had stated in interviews at the time that he was adding about 5 pounds of muscle per year.
he went UP in size as he won Mr. O's, not down..
use your brain man. ::)
he was bigger in 98 than in 97, and bigger in 99 than in 98 and...it goes on.
duh. ::)
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Hahahahahaha sure he did 255 pounds in 1997 249 pounds in 1998 yet he somehow added more size in most of his body
yup. you can see the size in the videos and pics.
your mistake is you are taking the 255 weight value in 97 as being accurate.
it isn't. hellen keller can see that. ::)
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you act like the numbers are accurate? ::)
ronnie was not 255 in 97 if he was 257 in 99
cause he was noticably bigger in 99..a hell of a lot more than a measly 2 pounds.
and ronnie had stated in interviews at the time that he was adding about 5 pounds of muscle per year.
he went UP in size as he won Mr. O's, not down..
use your brain man. ::)
he was bigger in 98 than in 97, and bigger in 99 than in 98 and...it goes on.
duh. ::)
Proof would be nice .......hey wait that's something you could never do is back up your claims and posting pictures and saying ' see ' not proof , sorry
when in doubt deny , deny , deny
Ronnie's only improvement over 97 was he nailed his conditioning and that's one hell of an improvement but as far as size , shape , balance , proportion , width and gyno he didn't change which is exactly why he said Dorian would still beat him because he knows Dorians harder & drier while being bigger
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there is more proof than you can ever handle: the size increase is pretty damn obvious:
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yup. you can see the size in the videos and pics.
your mistake is you are taking the 255 weight value in 97 as being accurate.
it isn't. hellen keller can see that. ::)
really? pics don't lie sport ;)
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you act like the numbers are accurate? ::)
ronnie was not 255 in 97 if he was 257 in 99
cause he was noticably bigger in 99..a hell of a lot more than a measly 2 pounds.
and ronnie had stated in interviews at the time that he was adding about 5 pounds of muscle per year.
he went UP in size as he won Mr. O's, not down..
use your brain man. ::)
he was bigger in 98 than in 97, and bigger in 99 than in 98 and...it goes on.
duh. ::)
Hulkster have you ever met Ronnie and I figure you must train with him and see him all the time. How long have you known him? You know alot oabout him so I figure you are good friends
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Of course Ronnie improved from 96-97 to 98-99; however, Hulkster acts like he went from being a complete nobody to a God! He was a legitimate top 10 contender--7th in 96, 9th in 96--and then peaked to win a close contest in 98. In the RDB posted by ND, Ronnie's back actually looks thicker to me in 97; as for Hulkster's front relaxed pics, RC's size doesn't look much different, but his conditioning looks much improved in 99.
Wasn't RC actually lighter in 98 than 97?
In my opinion (subjective of course), Dorian would simply have too much mass for a lighter Ronnie, like 98-02, to win; similarly, when Ronnie was super massive in 03-05, he would lose to Yates based on condition.
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Of course Ronnie improved from 96-97 to 98-99; however, Hulkster acts like he went from being a complete nobody to a God! He was a legitimate top 10 contender--7th in 96, 9th in 96--and then peaked to win a close contest in 98. In the RDB posted by ND, Ronnie's back actually looks thicker to me in 97; as for Hulkster's front relaxed pics, RC's size doesn't look much different, but his conditioning looks much improved in 99.
Wasn't RC actually lighter in 98 than 97?
In my opinion (subjective of course), Dorian would simply have too much mass for a lighter Ronnie, like 98-02, to win; similarly, when Ronnie was super massive in 03-05, he would lose to Yates based on condition.
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Of course Ronnie improved from 96-97 to 98-99; however, Hulkster acts like he went from being a complete nobody to a God! He was a legitimate top 10 contender--7th in 96, 9th in 96--and then peaked to win a close contest in 98. In the RDB posted by ND, Ronnie's back actually looks thicker to me in 97; as for Hulkster's front relaxed pics, RC's size doesn't look much different, but his conditioning looks much improved in 99.
Wasn't RC actually lighter in 98 than 97?
In my opinion (subjective of course), Dorian would simply have too much mass for a lighter Ronnie, like 98-02, to win; similarly, when Ronnie was super massive in 03-05, he would lose to Yates based on condition.
Right on the money!
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The best FLS ever!!!
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:o
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The best FLS ever!!!
he looks awesome in that second one.
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Using your logic biceps are the most important bodypart to show in the Rear Double Biceps shot ;)
Look how surerior YAtes "Crisp" Gultes & Over all perfect proportion edge out Nasser
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In my opinion (biased of course), Dorian would simply have too much mass for a lighter Ronnie
fixed for accuracy :-*
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Wasn't RC actually lighter in 98 than 97?
according to the listed weights,
problem is, its quite clear he added some size for that contest.
its obvious immediately. watch the videos.
look at the arms/quads in the clips. its quite clear.
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there is more proof than you can ever handle: the size increase is pretty damn obvious:
Ronnie had severe structural probolems thru-out his career. His CHEST was hanging too low & droopy & were too big for his delts. His arms WERE TOO BIG FOR his delts. His CALVES were extinct !!.. He posed like Shit. I was there for 5 Olympias from the 3rd row, My guess is that you were not. He walked & POSED like an ape ! hIS was a collection on huge bodyparts, that never fit together. He posed like shit, And he is full of shit..
He sent people to prison for 10-20 years, FOR POSSESSION OF DRUGS, while he became a multimillionaire, for using ILLEGAL DRUGS.
He is a totally full of shot policeman (like they all are) , and the reason that he "SUCKED" for so long (at the "Olympia LEVEL"), was HE COULD NEVER OPEN UP TO ANYBODY LIKE CHAD NICHOLLS OR "HANY RAMBOD", or anybody else. Thats because he was alll the time claiming he was natural/ He didnt trust anybody & always played "DUMB". He wouldn't share & then "Receive" all the little tricks that pros who like each other share. So, he lied & lied, and retarded his progress, because he was "TRYING TO FIGURE IT ALL OUT HIMSELF", instead of "TRUSTING" Chad , or the other 3 or 4 guys out there that were experts on "SUPPLEMENTS".
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according to the listed weights,
problem is, its quite clear he added some size for that contest.
its obvious immediately. watch the videos.
look at the arms/quads in the clips. its quite clear.
Is this another assertion that you know more about Ronnie than Ronnie actually does, e.g. you know how much he weighed based on your interpretation of watching a video and that should trump what he listed his weight as? Just wondering....
Isn't it possible that he was holding more water and wasn't as conditioned in 97? Thus, in 98 when he dropped some water weight his muscles were more visible, creating an illusion of being bigger desipte being, say 5lbs lighter?
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Flex magazine 2002
The lat spread that stunned and revolutionized the bodybuilding world.
sorry Ronnie you lose again ;)
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Ronnie's traps are small.
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Ronnie's traps are small.
LOL. That's the sort of thinking that will get you off the bench and onto the Team Nasser starting rotation. ;D
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my FLS today!!.. ;D
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my FLS today!!.. ;D
how much dynamite can your backpack handle?
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how much dynamite can your backpack handle?
lmao ;D
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how much dynamite can your backpack handle?
enough quantity to blow your entire country :-X
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Dorian = impressive
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my FLS today!!.. ;D
Best natural front lat spread of any getbigger!
Dorian Sherief Shalaby = impressive
Fixed that for you
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Ronnie's traps are small.
lol who could ever forget that gem from the resident idiot of getbig, Flowerboy 8)
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lol who could ever forget that gem from the resident idiot of getbig, Flowerboy 8)
You did because not what I ever said ;) I said his traps ' appear ' small from the front compared to Dorian and take a good look moron ;)
same old Hulkster arguing a point no one ever made ;D
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LOL look at ronnie's left arm compared to dorian's left arm LOL
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look at the difference between the two's traps only from the front
Dexter isn't even posing
second pic Dex is
I mean look at the difference between Jay
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LOL look at ronnie's left arm compared to dorian's left arm LOL
look at Dorian's traps compared to Ronnies ;)
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just like every other aspect of bodybuilding, jay cannot compete with ronnie in the trap department either:
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just like every other aspect of bodybuilding, jay cannot compete with ronnie in the trap department either:
development? who's talking development? Ronnie and Jay combined can't touch Yates in traps
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Nasser had amazing traps!
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Nasser had amazing traps!
Not compared to Dorian
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Not compared to Dorian
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Not compared to Dorian
sorry i cant see what you see,.. borrow me your "dorian's balls" glasses to see things i cant see now :-X
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Best natural front lat spread of any getbigger!
Fixed that for you
thx bro, it's all "great team nasser genetics" ;D
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You're exactly like Hulkster you offer up nothing , what is that supposed to prove? what? ??? Nasser's heads down and you can see his traps more visually , from a size and width standpoint he doesn't beat Dorian especially considering he outweighs him
this is from the same contest and the difference between traps is staggering , Dorian's are longer , thicker , denser and more defined , separated and detailed and he's lighter to boot
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sorry i cant see what you see,.. borrow me your "dorian's balls" glasses to see things i cant see now :-X
I would loan you the ' dorian's balls ' glasses but I know you wouldn't want to remove your head from Nasser's ass to use them ;)
please help me understand your delusion how are Nasser's better? your only reply is some half-ass personal attack?
Dorian's back & traps are so massive he eclipses Nasser ;)
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You're exactly like Hulkster you offer up nothing , what is that supposed to prove? what? ??? Nasser's heads down and you can see his traps more visually , from a size and width standpoint he doesn't beat Dorian especially considering he outweighs him
this is from the same contest and the difference between traps is staggering , Dorian's are longer , thicker , denser and more defined , separated and detailed and he's lighter to boot
wow nasser's huge and sharp arms and shoulders set him apart from the others in this shot!!.. he has the best hams too!!..
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ND making Team Manties his bitch once again.
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I would loan you the ' dorian's balls ' glasses but I know you wouldn't want to remove your head from Nasser's ass to use them ;)
please help me understand your delusion how are Nasser's better? your only reply is some half-ass personal attack?
Dorian's back & traps are so massive he eclipses Nasser ;)
no i promise to have my head out for a minute to try the glasses.. but one minute only, ok?...... ;D
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wow nasser's huge and sharp arms and shoulders set him apart from the others in this shot!!.. he has the best hams too!!..
diversion , stick to the topic TRAPS how does Nasser beat Dorian ? please elaborate
Dorian's are larger , thicker , denser , drier , show better separation and detail it's night & day
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diversion , stick to the topic TRAPS how does Nasser beat Dorian ? please elaborate
Dorian's are larger , thicker , denser , drier , show better separation and detail it's night & day
no one argued that dorian's traps were not more detailed from the rear so what is your point to keep posting pics from the rear??.. i personally see that both of them had equally great traps from the front..
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no one argued that dorian's traps were not more detailed from the rear so what is your point to keep posting pics from the rear??.. i personally see that both of them had equally great traps from the front..
more detailed? how about thicker? denser? more separated , there is no comparison between traps
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more detailed? how about thicker? denser? more separated , there is no comparison between traps
Dorian takes it easy
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you need a better pic to prove your point.
look at nasser's right quad, it is more sliced and well conditioned than anything dorian is presenting.
97 was not a good year for dorian in terms of conditioning..
yates has better abs, better tie ins from the chest to the last and more in the shoulders - nasser has no seperation from shoulder to arms.
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Pretty horrible traps alright:
(http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia2/rc56.jpg)
(http://digilander.libero.it/mikementzer/Coleman19.jpg)
(http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia2/rc55.jpg)
(http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia2/rc12.jpg)
Dorian only beats him slightly on dryness, which in turn shows slightly more detail. Ron had some of the best traps of all time, they were monsterous, thick and dense. I don't think he was able, due to his genetics, to get really dry in that area, otherwise he would have easily beaten Yates in that department.
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Dorian takes it easy
potrel cotrel's position in the last picture is very suspicious ;D
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potrel cotrel's position in the last picture is very suspicious ;D
Where's Dorian's left arm going?? :)
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Where's Dorian's left arm going?? :)
lol.. it's like:
dorian: i afraid we may be seen!!..
portel: dont worry no one is coming now!..
;D ;D ;D = JUST FOR FUN..
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potrel cotrel's position in the last picture is very suspicious ;D
It's only gay if you want it to be ;D
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Dorian only beats him slightly on dryness, which in turn shows slightly more detail. Ron had some of the best traps of all time, they were monsterous, thick and dense. I don't think he was able, due to his genetics, to get really dry in that area, otherwise he would have easily beaten Yates in that department.
key words: would have, which in reality is never or in ron's case never did nor never would.
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key words: would have, which in reality is never or in ron's case never did nor never would.
There's a 1700 page thread for that discussion.
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In 2006 Flex magazine criticised that Ronnie's traps were so big they even overpowered his delts.
In 2003 Ernie Taylor commented he felt Ronnie had got so big his front lat spread almost looked less impressive because he had "too much traps".
Obviously pictures where he's puffing his chest out and leaning back, like Kai Green does too, his traps aren't particularly visible from that angle. Some guys hunch over a little in the front realxed so they look less wide but have bigger appearing traps, some do the opposite. One can criticise Ronnie for some things, but small traps from the front is not one. They attach in a relatively narrow place compared to some, but do not lack for mass.
(http://blogmuscle.files.wordpress.com/2006/10/jamfor.jpg?w=440&h=329)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_3LOSMp8vg0o/SBApFSuIzJI/AAAAAAAAAHQ/OdAfa3t8F24/s320/Ronniecoleman.jpg)
(http://theswole.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/ronniecoleman4ky7.jpg)
(http://image.ebook30.com/data_images/2009/07/16/1247740920-519kg01kawl.jpg)
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r255/Kelly0108/Ronnie_Coleman_photo340.jpg)
This is like the other day when someone tried to say Kevin Levrone was narrow.
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Not compared to Dorian
I really feel sad for you! :-[
God bless your parents.. :'(
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Pretty horrible traps alright:
Dorian only beats him slightly on dryness, which in turn shows slightly more detail. Ron had some of the best traps of all time, they were monsterous, thick and dense. I don't think he was able, due to his genetics, to get really dry in that area, otherwise he would have easily beaten Yates in that department.
You missed the point completely , who said ' horrible ' ? who?
Dorian beats him slightly on dryness? slightly? there is a night & day difference between the two . and no one is arguing that his traps aren't great please bear this point in mind , but they do from the front in some poses appear ( keyword ) appear small in relation to other people . the pictures I posted show this
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In 2006 Flex magazine criticised that Ronnie's traps were so big they even overpowered his delts.
In 2003 Ernie Taylor commented he felt Ronnie had got so big his front lat spread almost looked less impressive because he had "too much traps".
Obviously pictures where he's puffing his chest out and leaning back, like Kai Green does too, his traps aren't particularly visible from that angle. Some guys hunch over a little in the front realxed so they look less wide but have bigger appearing traps, some do the opposite. One can criticise Ronnie for some things, but small traps from the front is not one. They attach in a relatively narrow place compared to some, but do not lack for mass.
(http://blogmuscle.files.wordpress.com/2006/10/jamfor.jpg?w=440&h=329)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_3LOSMp8vg0o/SBApFSuIzJI/AAAAAAAAAHQ/OdAfa3t8F24/s320/Ronniecoleman.jpg)
(http://theswole.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/ronniecoleman4ky7.jpg)
(http://image.ebook30.com/data_images/2009/07/16/1247740920-519kg01kawl.jpg)
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r255/Kelly0108/Ronnie_Coleman_photo340.jpg)
This is like the other day when someone tried to say Kevin Levrone was narrow.
I think you worded it more correctly his traps are narrow compared to others from the front , and when I typed ' small ' people mistook this for not being massive enough , but a lot of people jumped to their own conclusions and started claiming his traps sucked , or they were horrible , etc people are responding to points that were never made
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I really feel sad for you! :-[
God bless your parents.. :'(
You're the guy who thinks Levrone beat Dorian in 1995 and you feel sad for me? :-X ;D
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imo ronnie, huge nasser, dorian all had great fls's.
with the 99 olympia pic also showing 2 other fantastic fls's from flex and cormier.
while dorian has thickness in ubundance, he is simply beaten by ronnie and nasser for aesthetics and mass.
he's a bit like dj in that regard, in those wonder b&w pics he looks great, but on stage next to huge nasser,he looks decidedly weaker.
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also i must say jay should never ever be mentioned in any thread with the greats i just mentioned. His fls is nothing less than pathetic for a mr o ::)
oh and great thread from a great mind and poster 8)
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also i must say jay should never ever be mentioned in any thread with the greats i just mentioned. His fls is nothing less than pathetic for a mr o ::)
oh and great thread from a great mind and poster 8)
true.
but ND loves anything white, thick waisted and blocky, so he has embraced Jay to join his man stable that already includes dorian and gunter.. :-X
birds of a feather...
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true.
but ND loves anything white, thick waisted and blocky, so he has embraced Jay to join his man stable that already includes dorian and gunter.. :-X
birds of a feather...
Hello Hulkster are you in there? ;D
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Hello Hulkster are you in there? ;D
The guy on the couch apparently found something interesting to watch.
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I think you worded it more correctly his traps are narrow compared to others from the front , and when I typed ' small ' people mistook this for not being massive enough , but a lot of people jumped to their own conclusions and started claiming his traps sucked , or they were horrible , etc people are responding to points that were never made
Well this is awesome then, I think we agree on something! :)
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The guy on the couch apparently found something interesting to watch.
So did Hulkster :-X
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hahahahaha what a pic ;D
i hope that guy doesn't have a son ;D