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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091006/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_ap_poll
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An Associated Press-GfK poll says 56 percent of those surveyed in the past week approve of Obama's job performance, up from 50 percent in September. It's the first time since he took office in January that his rating has gone up.
People also feel better about his handling of the economy and his proposed health care overhaul.
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cue in the Spin-Whine Machine to start gnashing their teeth on here.
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Crickets out in full effect.
This poll had him at 50% last month, so you can't say they're just lying to make him feel good. The had him at 50% when everyone else did.
Now thye have him at 56%. Will be interesting to see where Gallup and others have him for October.
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Interesting, not much has changed except we have lost more jobs, we are further in debt with their continued spending, and we've experienced some increase in taxation and more proposed taxation in discussions.
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I thought it was interesting too. There were crickets when he was staring 49% in the face. I've been following the Gallup since the inauguration. Think he'll move back into the 70's or has he plateaued?
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The trend on Gallup still has his disapproval ratings going up. Approval might be plateauing. Only time will tell.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx
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Geeze,so he is now where almost every president has been at this time in his term.Super,what an accomplishment.Lets have a party for him.
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My guess is that he'll be between 50-55% approval for most of his presidency...unless something bad happens.
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My guess is that he'll be between 50-55% approval for most of his presidency...unless something bad happens.
The sad thing SOMETHING BAD is happening.He is remaking the country into a joke.
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Crickets out in full effect.
This poll had him at 50% last month, so you can't say they're just lying to make him feel good. The had him at 50% when everyone else did.
Now thye have him at 56%. Will be interesting to see where Gallup and others have him for October.
With Kool Aiders like yourself 240 who will defend anything this Admn does, is it any wonder?
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With Kool Aiders like yourself 240 who will defend anything this Admn does, is it any wonder?
was going to make this point earlier too
alot of ppl have so much invested in his presidency that they cannot recognize his mistakes 240, lurker, mons, benny are just examples of those types.
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Great, now someone tell him to stay out of the media for a while so he doesn't completely overexpose himself and people don't start tuning him out.
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Great, now someone tell him to stay out of the media for a while so he doesn't completely overexpose himself and people don't start tuning him out.
this is very good advice obama also contradicts himself and simply makes himself look uninformed alot of the times when he does interviews. If he simply steps back from the interviews and public photo opts his ratings would go up i would think.
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Thats possible.
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My guess is that he'll be between 50-55% approval for most of his presidency...unless something bad happens.
he would be at 30-35% without the Glenn Becks and 3333's out there being the epically polarizing individuals they are. Golf Clap for the 3333's out there hooking up Obama. ;D
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he would be at 30-35% without the Glenn Becks and 3333's out there being the epically polarizing individuals they are. Golf Clap for the 3333's out there hooking up Obama. ;D
So because i point out insane policies that this Admn is pushing, you now favor Obama, even though you may disagree with his policies, because it is me and not someone else pointing them out?
BTW - who other than Beck would have brought out the Van Jones material?
CNN, MSNBC, NYT, WAP, WSJ, LAT, et al are not doing their jobs as watch dogs and are instead lap dogs.
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So because i point out insane policies that this Admn is pushing, you now favor Obama, even though you may disagree with his policies, because it is me and not someone else pointing them out?
nope, because every single thing Obama does becomes a catastrophic disaster by polarizing drama queens. So where people on the left might have found themselves being critical of certain things and not happy about things, they're now completely distracted by the polarizing drama queens like Beck. So they're not even focused on what might piss them off. They're busy defending Obama from what looks like a lunatic onslaught. It has nothing to do with pointing out insane policies. You and Beck go far above and beyond that.
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nope, because every single thing Obama does becomes a catastrophic disaster by polarizing drama queens. So where people on the left might have found themselves being critical of certain things and not happy about things, they're now completely distracted by the polarizing drama queens like Beck. So they're not even focused on what might piss them off. They're busy defending Obama from what looks like a lunatic onslaught. It has nothing to do with pointing out insane policies. You and Beck go far above and beyond that.
Well, my pointing out the issues are not the proble, the policies being pushed are the problem.
If you cant separate the two, that says more about the left than it does about me.
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Some of the bad ratings were the result of the campaign by the health insurance lobby.
Obama is rebounding from it somewhat.
but Obama lovers who dream of approval ratings like during the first month will have to keep on dreaming.
honeymoon is over.
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Well, my pointing out the issues are not the proble, the policies being pushed are the problem.
If you cant separate the two, that says more about the left than it does about me.
you either didn't understand what I said or pretended I meant what you wanted to reply to.
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you either didn't understand what I said or pretended I meant what you wanted to reply to.
Enlighten me. Why do you feel you have to protect a politician who is lying to you and betraying his campaign promises?
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He's movinggggg on uppppppp.
[/Jefferson's soundtrack]
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Some of the bad ratings were the result of the campaign by the health insurance lobby.
Obama is rebounding from it somewhat.
but Obama lovers who dream of approval ratings like during the first month will have to keep on dreaming.
honeymoon is over.
True Dat!!!
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I would be careful believing anything polled by the AP. ::)
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Rasmussen has em at 50%...
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Rasmussen has em at 50%...
woah..
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Which is where he's been at for the last month...his disapproval has shot up. Thats what happens when u don't do anything.
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Which is where he's been at for the last month...his disapproval has shot up. Thats what happens when u don't do anything.
LOL its true
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LurkernoMore really reaching in this thread.
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Enlighten me. Why do you feel you have to protect a politician who is lying to you and betraying his campaign promises?
first, i'm not talking about me. who are you trying to convince? the people who are already against Obama or the people who support him? if it's the people who support him, how do you figure they have any interest in listening to a clear cut polarizing opinion? I mean so far you've been willing to run with every negative thing on Obama no matter how stupid, such as the birther crap. What we see happening right now in American politics is what the power elite love and have used successfully since ancient times. divide and rule and imo you and beck and the like are tools to that end. serious topic and serious debate as well as any chance that the people will ever come together in opposition to things we don't want is assured not to happen.
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first, i'm not talking about me. who are you trying to convince? the people who are already against Obama or the people who support him? if it's the people who support him, how do you figure they have any interest in listening to a clear cut polarizing opinion? I mean so far you've been willing to run with every negative thing on Obama no matter how stupid, such as the birther crap. What we see happening right now in American politics is what the power elite love and have used successfully since ancient times. divide and rule and imo you and beck and the like are tools to that end. serious topic and serious debate as well as any chance that the people will ever come together in opposition to things we don't want is assured not to happen.
Hugo - I have said many times, the birther stuff is good for a laugh.
To me, the Cap & Trade bill is the biggest fear I have as far as the proposals go.
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Hugo - I have said many times, the birther stuff is good for a laugh.
To me, the Cap & Trade bill is the biggest fear I have as far as the proposals go.
Where I live, diesel cars have had the biggest market share for a long while.
Just the last two months, low energy lamps have been going off the shelves since the EU banned import and production on the 1st of September.
The low energy lamps saves up to 80% as compared to regular lamps.
And investments in wind power plants are quickly picking up speed.
As well as numerous other changes due to "Cap and trade" like legislations.
Economy can actually improve due to it.
Eg, car engines will have to be made much more efficient. Japanese cars have been efficient for years.
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Where I live, diesel cars have had the biggest market share for a long while.
Just the last two months, low energy lamps have been going off the shelves since the EU banned import and production on the 1st of September.
The low energy lamps saves up to 80% as compared to regular lamps.
And investments in wind power plants are quickly picking up speed.
As well as numerous other changes due to "Cap and trade" like legislations.
Economy can actually improve due to it.
Eg, car engines will have to be made much more efficient. Japanese cars have been efficient for years.
Hedge - those are not the provisions that bother me.
The ones that are frightening are the retro-fit provisions giving the EPA essentially control over your home and your ability to sell it.
I am shocked that we would create a new trading exchange for carbon credits, as if we did not learn our mistakes with CDO's etc.
Goldman Sachs and GE stand to make billions and billions off this.
Tax increases per year per household range anywhere from $1,800 to $4,000.
And on and on.
We simply cannot increase manufacturing and production if we keep putting shackles on our economy. We have 10% UE now and we will have permanent 12.5% or better with this.
The below graph is anticipated job losses for this fiasco.
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Obama Job Approval Down to 49%
President becomes fourth fastest to slip below the majority approval level
by Jeffrey M. Jones
PRINCETON, NJ -- The latest Gallup Daily tracking results show 49% of Americans approving of the job Barack Obama is doing as president, putting him below the majority approval level for the first time in his presidency.
Although the current decline below 50% has symbolic significance, most of the recent decline in support for Obama occurred in July and August. He began July at 60% approval. The ongoing, contentious debate over national healthcare reform has likely served as a drag on his public support, as have continuing economic problems. Americans are also concerned about the Obama administration's reliance on government spending to solve the nation's problems and the growing federal budget deficit. Since September, Obama's approval rating had been holding in the low 50s and, although it has reached 50% numerous times, it had never dropped below 50% until now.
Of the post-World War II presidents, Obama now is the fourth fastest to drop below the majority approval level, doing so in his 10th month on the job. Gerald Ford dropped below 50% approval during his third month in office, and Bill Clinton did so in his fourth month. Ronald Reagan, like Obama, also dropped below 50% in his 10th month in office, though Reagan's drop occurred a few days sooner in that month (Nov. 13-16, 1981) than did Obama's (Nov. 17-19, 2009).
But all presidents except John Kennedy dropped below the majority approval level at some point in their presidencies, and all recovered after the first time below this mark to go back above 50% approval.
Time Between Presidents' First Sub-50% Job Approval Rating and Next Job Approval Rating Above 50%
Half recovered quickly -- Harry Truman, Dwight Eisenhower, Ronald Reagan, and George W. Bush were back above 50% approval the same month they dipped below that mark, and Lyndon Johnson returned to majority approval in his second month after his initial sub-50% rating. The remainder continued to sink further below 50% and remained there for many months, but eventually recovered, with Ford's effort boosted by the Mayaguez incident.
George H.W. Bush took the longest time to recover, going more than a year before his approval rating was restored to the majority level. Unfortunately for him, the 1992 election at which voters denied him a second term in office occurred during this time, and his rating did not go back above 50% until just before he left office in January 1993.
Notably, most of the presidents who fell below 50% during their first term recovered in plenty of time to be re-elected. This list includes Truman, Nixon, Reagan, Clinton, and George W. Bush. Ford and Jimmy Carter recovered in the short term but could not sustain improvement long enough to convince voters they deserved a second term, and, as noted, the elder Bush recovered after he was voted out of office. Johnson may well have joined that list had he decided to seek a second term. And Eisenhower did not go below majority approval until after he had been re-elected.
Thus, Obama's descent below 50% is an important symbolic milestone in his presidency, but history suggests the odds of his regaining majority approval are high, and he could do so relatively soon, particularly since the individual nightly numbers for him in recent days have been right around the 50% mark. History would suggest his current loss of majority approval bears little relation to his chances of being elected to a second term in 2012.
Editor's Note: Gallup's official presidential job approval ratings are based on the Gallup Daily tracking three-day averages as reported each day at Gallup.com. Gallup from time to time includes presidential approval ratings on other surveys in order to preserve survey context for questions that follow, including the Oct. 1-4, 2009, Gallup Crime poll, in which presidential approval was 49%. Gallup considers the Nov. 17-19 Daily results as its official record of the first time Obama dropped below 50%.
Do You Approve or Disapprove of the Job Barack Obama Is Doing as President?
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Many people like Obama personally but dont agree with his policy positions.
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Many people like Obama personally but dont agree with his policy positions.
EXACTLY!!!
Look at the polls, regarding specific issues he's attempting to handle.
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So because i point out insane policies that this Admn is pushing, you now favor Obama, even though you may disagree with his policies, because it is me and not someone else pointing them out?
BTW - who other than Beck would have brought out the Van Jones material?
CNN, MSNBC, NYT, WAP, WSJ, LAT, et al are not doing their jobs as watch dogs and are instead lap dogs.
and shit like this is why no one takes you serious. Except for the real stupid asses who just want anything to believe in.
Fear Mongering is what gets the extreme right going, all the Muslim, race, Marxist shit is what mutes the rights voices in the real issues while they yell about shit that aint gonna change. Its the school girl gay shit like that, with the dumbass pictures and sayings gives the nagging girlfriend effect. And the only people that listen to you are the people who think like you. Close minded and such. Instead of real debate, real pros and cons pointed out that are realistic and based off of non partisan sound investigations, we get doctored pictures, dishonest word play to describe policies.
Because only in that warped way of thinking can a 2.2 high school gpa, 5 schools for a journalism degree, sports caster, quitter governor, who was picked solely to capitalize on the woman vote forged by Hilary (and the entire world knows it) (by the way, these are all facts and not guilt by loose association things) be even considered as a possible candidate for the PRESIDENT OF THE FREAKIN UNITED STATES OF AMERICA...while people make excuses for her lack of higher level cognitive thinking settling for a human sound byte machine..............is why we are so fucked up right now...
see Billy, you saying Obama is racist and don’t like white people, is why people who are straddling the fence aren’t gonna listen to you. Because you string together a bunch of loosely related instances in which he has personally been involved in directly on one occasion (what he wrote in the book which has been taken out of context by you like 90k times and not quoted in its entirety)
33333 when you say he is trying to destroy the country from the inside. That’s just a dumb thing to say. He is a very smart man and the first black president, do you think he is trying to purposely screw off the country in 4 years ..If he wanted to do that he would have sat back and done noting during the economic breakdown. He would have done nothing for healthcare while 70% of Americans want healthcare for all...
Make the argument that he is going about it the wrong way maybe, but spare me the CT about him being a secret double agent Muslim on some mission from Kenya which involved him being ELECTED AS THE FIRST FUCKING BLACK PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY...Jesus h Christ get a grip
Beck has gone on record as saying he does what he does for ratings and doesn’t believe all that crap. Shit he contradicted himself on a show in less than 5 min retracted some wild shit he threw out there thinking he was gonna get a positive response on "Obama has shown time and time again that he has a deep seeded hatred for white people" ...3 min later "im not saying he doesn’t like white people"
He tells you fucks he does this for ratings and yall idiots eat this "sky is falling; he is the devil in the oval office” song and dance, hook line and sinker.
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Mal - I get 10 to 1 pm's positive on my side.
BTW - have you looked into ObamaCare lately? From what I can tell, doctors are getting screwed royally.
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Mal - I get 10 to 1 pm's positive on my side.
BTW - have you looked into ObamaCare lately? From what I can tell, doctors are getting screwed royally.
i have no clue on what the first line means.
and i dont read anything outside of my school books right now. Getbig and working out is thing i get outside of school
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i have no clue on what the first line means.
and i dont read anything outside of my school books right now. Getbig and working out is thing i get outside of school
I get many private messages from people who grealty enjoy my posts.
As far as PelosiCare, they are taxing cosmetic surgery so even that is not a safe harbor anymore.
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I get many private messages from people who grealty enjoy my posts.
As far as PelosiCare, they are taxing cosmetic surgery so even that is not a safe harbor anymore.
dude please dont quote getbig as a poll..but for arguments sake.. the same amount of people that enjoy your post most likley hate them and make threads about them.
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and shit like this is why no one takes you serious. Except for the real stupid asses who just want anything to believe in.
Fear Mongering is what gets the extreme right going, all the Muslim, race, Marxist shit is what mutes the rights voices in the real issues while they yell about shit that aint gonna change. Its the school girl gay shit like that, with the dumbass pictures and sayings gives the nagging girlfriend effect. And the only people that listen to you are the people who think like you. Close minded and such. Instead of real debate, real pros and cons pointed out that are realistic and based off of non partisan sound investigations, we get doctored pictures, dishonest word play to describe policies.
Because only in that warped way of thinking can a 2.2 high school gpa, 5 schools for a journalism degree, sports caster, quitter governor, who was picked solely to capitalize on the woman vote forged by Hilary (and the entire world knows it) (by the way, these are all facts and not guilt by loose association things) be even considered as a possible candidate for the PRESIDENT OF THE FREAKIN UNITED STATES OF AMERICA...while people make excuses for her lack of higher level cognitive thinking settling for a human sound byte machine..............is why we are so fucked up right now...
see Billy, you saying Obama is racist and don’t like white people, is why people who are straddling the fence aren’t gonna listen to you. Because you string together a bunch of loosely related instances in which he has personally been involved in directly on one occasion (what he wrote in the book which has been taken out of context by you like 90k times and not quoted in its entirety)
33333 when you say he is trying to destroy the country from the inside. That’s just a dumb thing to say. He is a very smart man and the first black president, do you think he is trying to purposely screw off the country in 4 years ..If he wanted to do that he would have sat back and done noting during the economic breakdown. He would have done nothing for healthcare while 70% of Americans want healthcare for all...
Make the argument that he is going about it the wrong way maybe, but spare me the CT about him being a secret double agent Muslim on some mission from Kenya which involved him being ELECTED AS THE FIRST FUCKING BLACK PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY...Jesus h Christ get a grip
Beck has gone on record as saying he does what he does for ratings and doesn’t believe all that crap. Shit he contradicted himself on a show in less than 5 min retracted some wild shit he threw out there thinking he was gonna get a positive response on "Obama has shown time and time again that he has a deep seeded hatred for white people" ...3 min later "im not saying he doesn’t like white people"
He tells you fucks he does this for ratings and yall idiots eat this "sky is falling; he is the devil in the oval office” song and dance, hook line and sinker.
And bashing Palin seems to be the panacea for folks like you, to hide the fact that the guy with the Harvard degree has invoked some of the most idiotic policies this country has ever seen.
Where is this checklist for qualifications for president that conclusively disqualifies Palin and affirms the qualifications of Obama who, unlike Palin, has not been a mayor, governor, or had any executive experience whatsoever?
Let's see an official qualifications list for Prez, so you and other folks here can show conclusively that Obama fits the bill; whereas Palin does not.
Hint - There will likely be nothing there about one's high school GPA or going to multiple colleges (which Palin did, due to financial constraints).
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dude please dont quote getbig as a poll..but for arguments sake.. the same amount of people that enjoy your post most likley hate them and make threads about them.
Ha ha, I really give a shit about a fake vet, a fag in tights, and other brain dead liberal dolts?
Give me a break.
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Fear Mongering is what gets the extreme right going,
You mean like "If we don't act NOW on global warming, the planet is doomed!!!" or "If we don't pass this stimulus/health care bill IMMEDIATELY, the consequences for ALL will be dire!!!"...etc.
Both sides do it, Mal. They just tell different stories.
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And bashing Palin seems to be the panacea for folks like you, to hide the fact that the guy with the Harvard degree has invoked some of the most idiotic policies this country has ever seen.
Where is this checklist for qualifications for president that conclusively disqualifies Palin and affirms the qualifications of Obama who, unlike Palin, has not been a mayor, governor, or had any executive experience whatsoever?
Let's see an official qualifications list for Prez, so you and other folks here can show conclusively that Obama fits the bill; whereas Palin does not.
Hint - There will likely be nothing there about one's high school GPA or going to multiple colleges (which Palin did, due to financial constraints).
See the difference with me and you is this. Im just statin facts. You dont know the ramifications of obamas policies because they havent had time to play out.. but the whole world knows why palin was chosen to run as vp. and instead of saying it was a gamble and movin on. yall give this broad a platform. To talk about nothin.
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See the difference with me and you is this. Im just statin facts. You dont know the ramifications of obamas policies because they havent had time to play out.. but the whole world knows why palin was chosen to run as vp. and instead of saying it was a gamble and movin on. yall give this broad a platform. To talk about nothin.
Mal - if you have a credit card with a 25k limit on it - do you send you girl to the mall hoping she will only spend $100 on your card?
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See the difference with me and you is this. Im just statin facts. You dont know the ramifications of obamas policies because they havent had time to play out.. but the whole world knows why palin was chosen to run as vp. and instead of saying it was a gamble and movin on. yall give this broad a platform. To talk about nothin.
I'm stating facts, as well. We've seen Obama's policies play out and they've been collosal FLOPS!!!
Fact - Obama said that the stimulus needed to be passed YESTERDAY, to keep unemployment under 8 percent. It's over 10%, despite its passage - FLOP!!
Fact - Obama stated that he'd close Gitmo by the end of Jan 2010; that ain't happening - FLOP!!
Fact - Cash for Clunkers was supposed to help stimulate car sales; that program went belly up with the quickness - FLOP!!
And, your recourse is to claim that Palin isn't qualified to challenge Obama for the presidency in 2012, based on her high school GPA some 26 years ago? PLEASE!!!
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Mal - if you have a credit card with a 25k limit on it - do you send you girl to the mall hoping she will only spend $100 on your card?
Hell naw...i give that broad $100 cash monies
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See the difference with me and you is this. Im just statin facts. You dont know the ramifications of obamas policies because they havent had time to play out.. but the whole world knows why palin was chosen to run as vp. and instead of saying it was a gamble and movin on. yall give this broad a platform. To talk about nothin.
Palin was picked because she could get the base out to vote.Conservatives DESPISE John McCain and if he didnt pick Palin he would have gotten about 20% of the vote.
Obama has been in office a little less then a year things are MUCH MUCH MUCH worse and to those who claimed he was keeping us safe well we just had a terrorist attack at Fort Hood so he even fails there.
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I'm stating facts, as well. We've seen Obama's policies play out and they've been collosal FLOPS!!!
Fact - Obama said that the stimulus needed to be passed YESTERDAY, to keep unemployment under 8 percent. It's over 10% - FLOP!!
Fact - Obama stated that he'd close Gitmo by the end of Jan 2010; that ain't happening - FLOP!!
And, your recourse is to claim that Palin isn't qualified to challenge Obama for the presidency in 2012, based on her high school GPA some 26 years ago? PLEASE!!!
first off...you and i know both why she was picked to run so lets cut the shit.
about the policies, Though the economy has gotten better the unemployment rose. With no action, what do you think would have happened.
With Gitmo, its not jan yet so we cant judge that policy.
But its deeper than that, Many of you think he is on some kind of covert mission from the musilm world to turn the us into cuba. And its just not true. With no basis.
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first off...you and i know both why she was picked to run so lets cut the shit.
about the policies, Though the economy has gotten better the unemployment rose. With no action, what do you think would have happened.
With Gitmo, its not jan yet so we cant judge that policy.
But its deeper than that, Many of you think he is on some kind of covert mission from the musilm world to turn the us into cuba. And its just not true. With no basis.
Mal - I am the conservative base. Palin was the only reason I volunteered for his campaign. Otherwise, i was staying home. there were millions like me in that regard. Without Palin, McLame would have been destroyed by over 10 points.
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first off...you and i know both why she was picked to run so lets cut the shit.
about the policies, Though the economy has gotten better the unemployment rose. With no action, what do you think would have happened.
With Gitmo, its not jan yet so we cant judge that policy.
But its deeper than that, Many of you think he is on some kind of covert mission from the musilm world to turn the us into cuba. And its just not true. With no basis.
The economy has NOT gotten better.This is a liberal lie.They say housing sales are up BUT they dont report the prices of houses dropped.So,the owners are taking a bath by selling.This is not an improvement.
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Palin was picked because she could get the base out to vote.Conservatives DESPISE John McCain and if he didnt pick Palin he would have gotten about 20% of the vote.
Obama has been in office a little less then a year things are MUCH MUCH MUCH worse and to those who claimed he was keeping us safe well we just had a terrorist attack at Fort Hood so he even fails there.
See i knew that was comin. Now its Obamas fault the guy who was elisted for 7 years prior to Obama with red flags prior to obama wasnt properly delt with prior to obama. Now add in the fact that Obama has been easing relations with the Muslims, can you really sit here and blame obama. Shit i stubbed my toe, thats obamas fault too right...get a grip
and you know good in the hell well why she was picked over all them qualified males who could have done the same as far as the base. But the Right needed a lightening rod and they picked a woman to play off the 18mil woman votes hilary cultivated, She even stated it in a speach. Dont give me that shit about bringing out the base. That was a gamble by the GOP that was smart but lots steam when she opened her mouth. Also Dont give me the shit about the right not hating mccain, because yall chose him
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Mal - I am the conservative base. Palin was the only reason I volunteered for his campaign. Otherwise, i was staying home. there were millions like me in that regard. Without Palin, McLame would have been destroyed by over 10 points.
with Ramney or ron paul the gop would have won.. And if you are the base and feel that if mccain would have died that she was actually qualified to run,,,,holy shit...shit is fucked up.. and im movin :o
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with Ramney or ron paul the gop would have won.. And if you are the base and feel that if mccain would have died that she was actually qualified to run,,,,holy shit...shit is fucked up.. and im movin :o
Mal - the fact is no GOP person was winning. Obama ran a great campaign and did a great job putting the Bush albatross around McLame's neck.
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See i knew that was comin. Now its Obamas fault the guy who was elisted for 7 years prior to Obama with red flags prior to obama wasnt properly delt with prior to obama. Now add in the fact that Obama has been easing relations with the Muslims, can you really sit here and blame obama. Shit i stubbed my toe, thats obamas fault too right...get a grip
and you know good in the hell well why she was picked over all them qualified males who could have done the same as far as the base. But the Right needed a lightening rod and they picked a woman to play off the 18mil woman votes hilary cultivated, She even stated it in a speach. Dont give me that shit about bringing out the base. That was a gamble by the GOP that was smart but lots steam when she opened her mouth. Also Dont give me the shit about the right not hating mccain, because yall chose him
Funny but you left wing kooks blame Bush for 911.This nut at Fort Hood made most of these comments over the last year.Cant have it both ways.Clinton knew about Bin Laden and did nothing,you blame Bush.So now,Obama gets the blame for Fort Hood.
Who was going to get the base out?Romney?No,Palin got the base out.Yes,she was a women and that was important.Funny you arent pissed the democrats nominated a black guy over the far more qualified Clinton to get the black vote and hispanic vote out.
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first off...you and i know both why she was picked to run so lets cut the shit.
about the policies, Though the economy has gotten better the unemployment rose. With no action, what do you think would have happened.
With Gitmo, its not jan yet so we cant judge that policy.
But its deeper than that, Many of you think he is on some kind of covert mission from the musilm world to turn the us into cuba. And its just not true. With no basis.
Listen to what you just said. You make absolutley no sense; perhaps you should take your own advice and carve through the manure.
The people of this country judge the economy by ONE THING (and no, VP Biden, it's four letters, not three): JOBS!!
Again, Obama claimed thatthe stimulus (1,100 pages and nearly $800 billion of BS) was NEEDED to keep unemployment under 8 percent. It's over 10% with no signs of relief anytime soon.......That is a FLOP, pure and simple.
As for Gitmo, your attempt to save Obama on that one doesn't cut it. He went on national TV and proclaimed that it would be closed by the end of January 2010. That ain't happening (Obama even admitted that HIMSELF, most recently)........FLOP, pure and simple.
As for your question, the action Obama should have taken is the tried-and-true method to jump-start our economy: CUT TAXES and let the small businesses of this country do their thing. But, NOPE!!! Obama used this crisis to push his screwball agenda, which is royally backfiring and hurting the American people FAR more than they could have ever realized.
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Mal, after 11 months of presidential influence, Obama owns this economy. Yes, the fault is mixed between Bush, Obama and congress (the democrats controlling congress for nearly 3 yrs now).
This administration has spent more $ in year 1 than any president. A report just came out today. He outspent Clinton and Bush by a country mile.
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The most recent Obama approval rating is 45-48% depending on which poll you look at. This is a direct result of too many liberal policies, expansion of government, mounting deficits and some indications of indecisiveness.
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The most recent Obama approval rating is 45-48% depending on which poll you look at. This is a direct result of too many liberal policies, expansion of government, mounting deficits and some indications of indecisiveness.
And, as unemployment goes up, Obama's approval rating goes DOWN!!!!
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We may see a small seasonal bump in jobs for December but what will happen after the holidays...
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big_mal, bro stop while you're behind on this one. the pwnage is getting to be too brutal to witness. :-\ just stop.
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See i knew that was comin. Now its Obamas fault the guy who was elisted for 7 years prior to Obama with red flags prior to obama wasnt properly delt with prior to obama. Now add in the fact that Obama has been easing relations with the Muslims, can you really sit here and blame obama. Shit i stubbed my toe, thats obamas fault too right...get a grip
and you know good in the hell well why she was picked over all them qualified males who could have done the same as far as the base. But the Right needed a lightening rod and they picked a woman to play off the 18mil woman votes hilary cultivated, She even stated it in a speach. Dont give me that shit about bringing out the base. That was a gamble by the GOP that was smart but lots steam when she opened her mouth. Also Dont give me the shit about the right not hating mccain, because yall chose him
Hey big_mal, I have a news flash for you. You think the little monkey called Bush was the real guy in charge for 8 years? Do you think the slightly taller monkey Obama is in charge right now? Please wake up. These individuals are puppets working for hidden masters you don't even know about. Presidents are symbolical figure heads. The financial criminals are in control. The goverment is totally compromised - that includes the republicans and democrats.
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The ratings will only get real good if, and that's a big if, the UE starts to go down significantly.
Looks like the democrats are getting the health care bill passed. If they do that will probably help their popularity. Could make them win even more seats in the mid terms.
but that is only with good UE numbers which seems questionable at this time.