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Title: pm question answered
Post by: gh15 on October 07, 2009, 01:00:08 AM
Hi there, i am new to the site but have been reading lots and i wanted to ask you what a good cycle would be for me to get on. I'm 6 foot 4 and weigh 210 pounds but have always kinda been the big kid and i want to get ripped. I have a friend who suggested anavar mostly because im an athlete and its safe. My major issue is i do not want to build very rapidly like i would if i did some d-bol, test-e, and tren. Its not that i wouldnt wanna get that big it is just i dont want it to be unbelievably obvious im using gear. I was wondering if you could give me some tips on what i should have for cycles, dosages and anything else you'd like to comment on.
I appreciate your time,
Coldshot


what anavar? you have lots of money to spend on anavar? most anavar today is fake,, unless you get it nordic approved and nordic wont let you in because no dealing with new people,, dont ever base cycles on oxandrolone no matter what you wanna be because this is not 1980,,

test prop
tren ace
masteron

thats all one need for being an athlete now days,,increase the dose and later add hgh if want to get bigger,,

another option i recomend

test cyp/enantat
eq again no one give you real eq beside nordic and vet grades which are hard to come by so you can forget about it
turinabol



thats what athlete use just keep it in the gram a week level or under insted of us bodybuilders who go up to 2 and over,,

gh15 approved
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Tapeworm on October 07, 2009, 01:19:33 AM

what anavar? you have lots of money to spend on anavar? most anavar today is fake,, unless you get it nordic approved and nordic wont let you in because no dealing with new people,, dont ever base cycles on oxandrolone no matter what you wanna be because this is not 1980,,

test prop
tren ace
masteron

thats all one need for being an athlete now days,,increase the dose and later add hgh if want to get bigger,,

another option i recomend

test cyp/enantat
eq again no one give you real eq beside nordic and vet grades which are hard to come by so you can forget about it
turinabol



thats what athlete use just keep it in the gram a week level or under insted of us bodybuilders who go up to 2 and over,,

gh15 approved



Complete bullshit.  A g a week and it will be very obvious that you are using.  Gh15 is a dangerous fool.

Cold, I vote you eat right & lift hard, but if you really want some drugs then anavar aka oxandrolone (not to be confused with oxymetholone aka anadrol) is a relatively safe choice as long as it's the real mccoy.  20-30 mg/day for me wasn't noticably suppressive.  Higher doses got my veins popping more than I wanted and people were commenting.  You won't see 'steroid like gains' either, but it's a small step up.

Do your research.  Don't just load up on whatever some faceless joker online tells you to use.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: gh15 on October 07, 2009, 01:25:43 AM

Complete bullshit.  A g a week and it will be very obvious that you are using.  Gh15 is a dangerous fool.

Cold, I vote you eat right & lift hard, but if you really want some drugs then anavar aka oxandrolone (not to be confused with oxymetholone aka anadrol) is a relatively safe choice as long as it's the real mccoy.  20-30 mg/day for me wasn't noticably suppressive.  Higher doses got my veins popping more than I wanted and people were commenting.  You won't see 'steroid like gains' either, but it's a small step up.

Do your research.  Don't just load up on whatever some faceless joker online tells you to use.

my bitchy on period friend,,i am the reason you can give your experiences for every one to know,, in addition you can tkae 1 gram and look perfectly athletic if you train to look like an athlete and not a bodybuilder!
thats that

gh15 approved
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Tapeworm on October 07, 2009, 01:34:09 AM
my bitchy on period friend,,i am the reason you can give your experiences for every one to know,, in addition you can tkae 1 gram and look perfectly athletic if you train to look like an athlete and not a bodybuilder!
thats that

gh15 approved

Still afraid to post on the steroid board because they'll see right through you?

So your advice is to take heavier doses and then undertrain?  That way no one will see that he's using?  ::)  Sounds healthy.


Let's see what the board says.  Who here thinks a gram a week for a virgin user won't be obvious?
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: gh15 on October 07, 2009, 01:37:39 AM
Still afraid to post on the steroid board because they'll see right through you?

So your advice is to take heavier doses and then undertrain?  That way no one will see that he's using?  ::)  Sounds healthy.


Let's see what the board says.  Who here thinks a gram a week for a virgin user won't be obvious?

read what isaid again my friend,, i said  A GRAM AND UNDER! read before you talk ,, also it depends on his lean muscle mass he is at 210 lb he is big guy tall guy ,,and in addition i didnt say undetrain i said dont train like a bodybuilder or powerlifter ,,train like athlete there is a diff more endurance !

gh15 approved youre lucky im bored right now :)
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Emmortal on October 07, 2009, 01:39:20 AM
Still afraid to post on the steroid board because they'll see right through you?

So your advice is to take heavier doses and then undertrain?  That way no one will see that he's using?  ::)  Sounds healthy.


Let's see what the board says.  Who here thinks a gram a week for a virgin user won't be obvious?

Depends on the training.  He'll get moonface and bloat and look "on" to those in the know, but he's not going get huge off that if he's not training like a BB'r or powerlifter, which is all he's saying and is true.

And he did say 1gram or under, not necessarily 1 gram.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Tapeworm on October 07, 2009, 01:50:04 AM

read what isaid again my friend,, i said  A GRAM AND UNDER! read before you talk ,, also it depends on his lean muscle mass he is at 210 lb he is big guy tall guy ,,and in addition i didnt say undetrain i said dont train like a bodybuilder or powerlifter ,,train like athlete there is a diff more endurance !

gh15 approved youre lucky im bored right now :)

Keep backtracking.  Maybe you'll manage to save some face.



Depends on the training.  He'll get moonface and bloat and look "on" to those in the know, but he's not going get huge off that if he's not training like a BB'r or powerlifter, which is all he's saying and is true.

And he did say 1gram or under, not necessarily 1 gram.

You're a good dude Emmortal but gh is way way off with this advice.  He said, "keep it in the gram a week level or under insted of us bodybuilders who go up to 2 and over,,"  He's not advising 200/wk with that.  He's telling this guy to use a g.  Maybe 900mg/wk.  Way way overboard for a new user who is looking to harden up and not be obvious.  Hell, I used 250/wk of Schering enanthate and people were asking questions.

Imo, use less & train more.  Not the other way around.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Emmortal on October 07, 2009, 01:54:48 AM
Keep backtracking.  Maybe you'll manage to save some face.



You're a good dude Emmortal but gh is way way off with this advice.  He said, "keep it in the gram a week level or under insted of us bodybuilders who go up to 2 and over,,"  He's not advising 200/wk with that.  He's telling this guy to use a g.  Maybe 900mg/wk.  Way way overboard for a new user who is looking to harden up and not be obvious.  Hell, I used 250/wk of Schering enanthate and people were asking questions.

Imo, use less & train more.  Not the other way around.

I've got nothing better to do here at work so I'm just rambling on.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Tapeworm on October 07, 2009, 02:01:57 AM
I've got nothing better to do here at work so I'm just rambling on.

Ya, I have to shoot.  I'll leave it to gh to explain how wonderful he is and how I misunderstood him. 

I still wish he'd be man enough to post on the steroid board with you guys.  He'd be like the Johnny Falcon of hardcore.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: _bruce_ on October 07, 2009, 03:30:15 AM
Spot on... Thx GH15  8)
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: pellius on October 07, 2009, 03:42:21 AM

another option i recomend

test cyp/enantat
eq again no one give you real eq beside nordic and vet grades which are hard to come by so you can forget about it


Why is real eq so hard to get? Someone was asking about it over on Bill's BodyOfScience board and members, mostly Europeans, said it's easy to get and as common as dirt. Are they all getting fakes and don't know it? What's that gooey stuff coming out of China?

BTW, what did you do to Division? He hasn't posted since May though his account is always active.  And how much longer is GetItOnNY going to be in business? Can you hold off a bit on destroying him until he's finished doing the research he promised on protein powders? I really want to know if I'm getting what I'm paying for.

Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: UpTheDosage on October 07, 2009, 11:33:39 AM
I love how people that have never used steroids before think that they are going to turn into the incredible hulk after 1 cycle and it will be so obvious that they are using.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: dustin on October 07, 2009, 11:37:49 AM
I love how people that have never used steroids before think that they are going to turn into the incredible hulk after 1 cycle and it will be so obvious that they are using.

It's pretty hilarious. It reminds me of chicks who refuse to lift weights because they think they're going to explode with muscle. As if people without a myostatin deficiency actually run into that problem. I think most bodybuilders would love to have that problem. I know I would!
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: rccs on October 07, 2009, 12:06:48 PM
Real eq, IS hard to get in europe... there is a lot of scam and shitty products coming from china... Real eq is very expensive and comes from several labs that produce it underground in Portugal, Spain, Greece... But if one has good conections in Brazil one can order it from there, high quality too... 8)

Why is real eq so hard to get? Someone was asking about it over on Bill's BodyOfScience board and members, mostly Europeans, said it's easy to get and as common as dirt. Are they all getting fakes and don't know it? What's that gooey stuff coming out of China?

BTW, what did you do to Division? He hasn't posted since May though his account is always active.  And how much longer is GetItOnNY going to be in business? Can you hold off a bit on destroying him until he's finished doing the research he promised on protein powders? I really want to know if I'm getting what I'm paying for.


Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: emn1964 on October 07, 2009, 01:24:25 PM
I love how people that have never used steroids before think that they are going to turn into the incredible hulk after 1 cycle and it will be so obvious that they are using.

a gram a week as gh15 suggested will be make it obvious he is on.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Moen on October 07, 2009, 01:31:43 PM
imo if you want to avoid looking 'on' I would steer clear of tren and test. Nothing says 'on' more than the red glow you get from using androgens.
Although I would reconsider your goal, if you don't want the 'on' look it might be best to just not be on in the first place  :P
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Spike on October 07, 2009, 05:27:21 PM
I knew gh15 had something to do with nordic


 ;)
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: clued-up on October 07, 2009, 05:39:50 PM
eq again no one give you real eq beside nordic and vet grades which are hard to come by so you can forget about it

good brand?
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: pellius on October 07, 2009, 05:47:30 PM
a gram a week as gh15 suggested will be make it obvious he is on.

I don't know. I think UpTheDosage makes a good point. I mean, look at Sevaste. He says he's on 100mg/day naps and 1 gram/wk of sus. No offense intended but if I saw him on the beach or pool I wouldn't think he was on anything. I don't think he has especially horrible genetics. There are a lot of people I've know through the years that have been on a lot of gear but didn't even look like bodybuilders let alone a juiced one.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: hairyB07 on October 08, 2009, 12:17:49 AM
gh15 approved youre lucky im bored right now :)
Hey GH,
Do you think it is wise to advise on conditioning when you find it hard yourself to bring conditioning (the conditioning you have in your gym shots) to a competition stage?
What is it that you do 1 day out that makes you decide you wanna look flat on stage most of the time recently?

Just find it very hard to take advice from someone that can hardly bring it to the stage on comp day, thats all.
How did you go in this years Olympia?
Still top 6?
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: claymore on October 08, 2009, 12:48:28 AM
good brand?

Don't know about it know, but fort dodge was GREAT stuff back in the day.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: efanhowz on October 08, 2009, 01:04:43 AM
anyone tried endosyn or gen-shi eq? WHAT ARE SOME GOOD LABS FOR EQ? i only mess with human grade but i was thinking about 500mg eq and 750 test for my next (4th) cycle. a lot of ppl dont report good gains from eq, seems like hit or miss
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: pellius on October 08, 2009, 02:44:16 AM
Don't know about it know, but fort dodge was GREAT stuff back in the day.

Made in the good old USA. A good friend of mine is a vet that works solely with horses and uses the product regularly. He use to use it himself and provide it to friends but now it's much more strictly controlled. I think he just reserves it for just his horses and himself (he's in his mid fifties and is in great shape).
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: pellius on October 08, 2009, 02:46:41 AM
anyone tried endosyn or gen-shi eq? WHAT ARE SOME GOOD LABS FOR EQ? i only mess with human grade but i was thinking about 500mg eq and 750 test for my next (4th) cycle. a lot of ppl dont report good gains from eq, seems like hit or miss

Who provides "human grade" eq because as far as I know it's a vet product? Sucks that Fort Dodge is 50mg/ml because that 10mls to get your 500mg.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: pellius on October 08, 2009, 02:53:46 AM
:D

u are such a dumb fuck honestly

u seen pics of me either clean or on 100 mg dbol daily ..nothing else

here they are

in either of these on the beach I look bigger than you

my genetics are levrone like compared to you amnesia boy



I'm not on 100mg of dbol a day and I am in far, far better condition than you. I'm sure if I trained and ate like a bodybuilder I will easily surpass you in a couple of months.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=295769.0;attach=336370;image)
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Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Cleanest Natural on October 08, 2009, 03:01:24 AM
I'm not on 100mg of dbol a day and I am in far, far better condition than you. I'm sure if I trained and ate like a bodybuilder I will easily surpass you in a couple of months.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=295769.0;attach=336370;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=295769.0;attach=336360;image)
no homo you would not

you are on loads of shit only to be a little more cut and smaller than me completely clean lol

how pathetic are you ??

and delusional

here you go again lol

I'm bigger and just as cut natural than you on gear ...oh yeah and I have a flat stomach not a roid belly

fuck off you ancient sirynge disposal thrash can

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=295769.0;attach=336370;image)
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: pellius on October 08, 2009, 03:02:55 AM
:D

u are such a dumb fuck honestly
u seen pics of me either clean or on 100 mg dbol daily ..nothing else
here they are
in either of these on the beach I look bigger than you
my genetics are levrone like compared to you amnesia boy

BTW, my point was that just because someone takes a gram of gear a week it's no guarantee that they will look like a bodybuilder let alone one that juices.

You might want to consider that one of the reasons you are so disliked on this board in addition to your creepiness it is your arrogance. You always used statements like "If you think "such and such" then you know nothing, are stupid, or blind." No debate or argument. Just an ad hominem attack. Like when you said that if anyone thinks Cutler should have won the O its blind and knows nothing about bodybuilder. Meaning all the judges, Milos, Chick, gh15, Yaroni and the vast majority of the bodybuilding fans know nothing. Only you do.

BTW, those pics are my day to day walk around condition. Those pics were taken on zero notice. I didn't have time to train and "dial in" for them. Your day to day condition is crap. You don't look like you train let alone one that juices.  
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: pellius on October 08, 2009, 03:06:20 AM
you are on loads of shit only to be a little more cut and smaller than me completely clean lol


Thinking that I look like I'm on "loads of shit" is quite a compliment.
Considering the amount of pics of yourself you post and actually thinking that you look good I believe it is you that are the delusional one.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Cleanest Natural on October 08, 2009, 03:15:15 AM
ok homo

my day to day condition is none since I do not train

when I do, I acomplish in 3-4 months what eluded you your whole lifetime : muscle ..

you can yap all day...at the end of the day, you talked out of your ass, you lack knowledge, you're blind and your also a homo

no I cannot be argumentative with you ...THAT'S JUST HOW I TALK MUTHERFUKKAH !

so go back to reading the penticostal bible on some rock in hawai because soon eough the feds are going to knock your door down again for god knows why  ::)
















bitch
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: pellius on October 08, 2009, 03:25:15 AM
LOL! Slimy Romanian gypsy talking tough. You're a weird dude who associates with an admitted pedophile and thinks were invaded by reptilians.

You really think you look even remotely like someone who trains? And aren't you also a trainer? And to think we're now going to have another low life immigrant to stink up this great country.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=298549.0;attach=339956;image)
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: pellius on October 08, 2009, 03:40:09 AM
On you can only dream that you had my "roid belly."
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=301073.0;attach=342774;image)
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Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: lax on October 08, 2009, 07:01:09 AM
ok homo

my day to day condition is none since I do not train

when I do, I acomplish in 3-4 months what eluded you your whole lifetime : muscle ..

you can yap all day...at the end of the day, you talked out of your ass, you lack knowledge, you're blind and your also a homo

no I cannot be argumentative with you ...THAT'S JUST HOW I TALK MUTHERFUKKAH !

so go back to reading the penticostal bible on some rock in hawai because soon eough the feds are going to knock your door down again for god knows why  ::)
















bitch

Pellius and sev are both good guys

you should form an alliance with each other
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Tapeworm on October 08, 2009, 07:27:10 AM
Without an AI you'd be up at least 10 lbs in water alone, probably 15.  You're not going to win an Olympia but go dose a g/wk and everyone in your life will be asking what's up.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Benny B on October 08, 2009, 08:27:59 AM
I'm not on 100mg of dbol a day and I am in far, far better condition than you. I'm sure if I trained and ate like a bodybuilder I will easily surpass you in a couple of months.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=295769.0;attach=336370;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=295769.0;attach=336360;image)
Oh shit, this is pellius?  :D

Your addiction to steroids at 50 years of age has you looking like a bloated sack of garbage. That and the ridiculous "Chernobyl tan."  ::)
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 08, 2009, 08:33:52 AM
And how much longer is GetItOnNY going to be in business? Can you hold off a bit on destroying him until he's finished doing the research he promised on protein powders? I really want to know if I'm getting what I'm paying for.



LOL GetItOnNY isn't doing any testing whatsoever. Maybe I shouldn't have told him it wasn't a good idea, I don't know. :D He obviously got clued in as to what he was getting into, so now he refuses to answer my question about the status of the testing he promised and argued with me about. :D Kind of funny that me, a complete outsider to the supp industry, knew more about the problems with testing competitors products.

He might be sweating a bit with the recent raid of bb.com where his products were among those seized (according to some post at least).
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Benny B on October 08, 2009, 08:37:36 AM

Complete bullshit.  A g a week and it will be very obvious that you are using.  Gh15 is a dangerous fool.

Cold, I vote you eat right & lift hard, but if you really want some drugs then anavar aka oxandrolone (not to be confused with oxymetholone aka anadrol) is a relatively safe choice as long as it's the real mccoy.  20-30 mg/day for me wasn't noticably suppressive.  Higher doses got my veins popping more than I wanted and people were commenting.  You won't see 'steroid like gains' either, but it's a small step up.

Do your research.  Don't just load up on whatever some faceless joker online tells you to use.
Correct...
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Captain Equipoise on October 08, 2009, 08:40:02 AM
Why is real eq so hard to get? Someone was asking about it over on Bill's BodyOfScience board and members, mostly Europeans, said it's easy to get and as common as dirt. Are they all getting fakes and don't know it? What's that gooey stuff coming out of China?

BTW, what did you do to Division? He hasn't posted since May though his account is always active.  And how much longer is GetItOnNY going to be in business? Can you hold off a bit on destroying him until he's finished doing the research he promised on protein powders? I really want to know if I'm getting what I'm paying for.



You can get REAL EQ and Winstrol from any Vet in north america, and by Vet I mean Veterinarian, not Veteran ;)
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: emn1964 on October 08, 2009, 09:15:37 AM
LOL GetItOnNY isn't doing any testing whatsoever. Maybe I shouldn't have told him it wasn't a good idea, I don't know. :D He obviously got clued in as to what he was getting into, so now he refuses to answer my question about the status of the testing he promised and argued with me about. :D Kind of funny that me, a complete outsider to the supp industry, knew more about the problems with testing competitors products.

He might be sweating a bit with the recent raid of bb.com where his products were among those seized (according to some post at least).

getitonny is just another supplement scamer like the rest.  he's a liar just like all the rest.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Captain Equipoise on October 08, 2009, 09:39:36 AM
pellius > sevastese

sev, you couldn't look like that if you did a pro cycle... lol

and btw. great photoshop skillz there, that darkening tool really etches out your abs nicely!
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Mr Nobody on October 08, 2009, 10:02:26 AM
thank you for the compliment homo

I don't even know how to open photoshop

here's another shot of my "photoshopped abs"

me>pennius

case closed
Nice abs Sev if you keep hanging you may have arms as long as Vince Goodrum
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Cleanest Natural on October 08, 2009, 10:06:34 AM
Nice abs Sev if you keep hanging you may have arms as long as Vince Goodrum
old photo ... but I'll never have his lack of self respect
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Hulkotron on October 08, 2009, 10:07:48 AM
pellius sorry but you look like shit, sev looks way better.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Captain Equipoise on October 08, 2009, 10:09:10 AM
thank you for the compliment homo

I don't even know how to open photoshop

here's another shot of my "photoshopped abs"

me>pennius

case closed

Heh, 1) not homo.. 2) at least I look like a bodybuilder 3) without 100mg of dbol a day!  you = fail
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Cleanest Natural on October 08, 2009, 11:09:24 AM
Heh, 1) not homo..

  :-\
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Schmoe Buster on October 08, 2009, 11:12:25 AM
pellius sorry but you look like shit, sev looks way better.

X2
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: bigmc on October 08, 2009, 11:13:48 AM
seve owning himself badly

by posting old pics when he was on shitloads of gear

fastforward till today doesn't even look like he trains

brutal 3rd world gypsy genetics :D
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: bigmc on October 08, 2009, 11:25:43 AM
:-*

epic beard to make up for baldness

brutal staring into the distance like a homo

monster folding arms to try and make chest look muscular

awesome fake gold necklace  :D
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: astro on October 08, 2009, 11:51:05 AM
You can get REAL EQ and Winstrol from any Vet in north america, and by Vet I mean Veterinarian, not Veteran ;)



reall? how so?
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Cleanest Natural on October 08, 2009, 11:54:23 AM
epic beard to make up for baldness

brutal staring into the distance like a homo

monster folding arms to try and make chest look muscular

awesome fake gold necklace  :D
I'm bald but I grow a short beard and some hair

I stare at homos like you

I bench more than you squat

my chain is purest silver 24k gold plated...I had a whole thread about it

you=owned
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: bigmc on October 08, 2009, 11:55:59 AM
I'm bald but I grow a short beard and some hair

I stare at homos like you

I bench more than you squat

my chain is purest silver 24k gold plated...I had a whole thread about it

you=owned

calm down cone dome

it ain't that serious
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: tbombz on October 08, 2009, 11:56:51 AM
gh is right you can use a gram and it wont be noticeable, but only if your diet is way off, or your already really big. i know a guy who uses a gram a week and on top of that tampers with orals, and he is like 205 18% bodyfat and doesnt look at all like a bodybuilder. its cuz he doesnt eat correctly
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: emn1964 on October 08, 2009, 12:00:28 PM
gh is right you can use a gram and it wont be noticeable, but only if your diet is way off, or your already really big. i know a guy who uses a gram a week and on top of that tampers with orals, and he is like 205 18% bodyfat and doesnt look at all like a bodybuilder. its cuz he doesnt eat correctly

but that isn't coldshot's scenario.  he's 6'4 210.  so gh15 is, once again, exposed as a nitwit.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: bigmc on October 08, 2009, 12:01:52 PM
gh is right you can use a gram and it wont be noticeable, but only if your diet is way off, or your already really big. i know a guy who uses a gram a week and on top of that tampers with orals, and he is like 205 18% bodyfat and doesnt look at all like a bodybuilder. its cuz he doesnt eat correctly

true dat

diet is more important than gear
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Captain Equipoise on October 08, 2009, 12:04:18 PM

reall? how so?

Well first you gotta be friends with the Vet, or have some friends that work @ the racetrack :)

they also have bomb clen pumps!

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Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Captain Equipoise on October 08, 2009, 12:07:15 PM
I'm bald but I grow a short beard and some hair

I stare at homos like you

I bench more than you squat

my chain is purest silver 24k gold plated...I had a whole thread about it

you=owned

Bullshit! that's spray painted steel/chrome! I know you European gypsies, in your knockoff chinese adidas tracksuit with your 2 euro fake gold chain, smoking your imitation marlboro's...
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Stavios on October 08, 2009, 12:41:50 PM
GH

should 750mg enanthate per week plus 300mg tren per week get me from 230 to 250 for the winter ?
I don't have money for bigger doses right now  :(

+slin also since it's cheap.

ps: I am not saying 250 lean, I just want to hit that mark then stay there for a few months then try to climb to 270 before dieting down again in 3-4 years  8)

Bodybuilding is the muscle  8)
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: emn1964 on October 08, 2009, 01:00:20 PM
allow me to own you yet once again

you should quit and delete your account

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Star Tetrahedron Pendant

 Boost your mental powers while imprinting your mind-pattern of protection. These three archetypes ~ tetrahedron up, tetrahedron down, circle ~ replicate in your auric field to enhance your personal safety and protection.

 

The combination of copper, silver, and gold represent the conscious, subconscious, and superconscious minds. These pendants are cast from an original that was handmade from a sheet of silver. Hand-finished after casting, each piece comes with a 24-inch chain inside a black velvet drawstring bag.

 

Gold: Each pendant is vermeil (VER-MAY) electrolytically plated with 3 microns of 24K gold on .925% sterling silver (pure silver is .999%). Includes 24-inch 24K gold-filled chain.

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Price: $275.00 - $295.00

you really wear that?
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: pellius on October 08, 2009, 01:03:25 PM
Without an AI you'd be up at least 10 lbs in water alone, probably 15.  You're not going to win an Olympia but go dose a g/wk and everyone in your life will be asking what's up.

Good point. Now you're tempting me. I admit that I am kind of shriveled looking but that's because I don't train and eat like a bodybuilder which is more important than any kind of hormone one is on. I think a good 10-15 pounds of just water weight alone will fill me out considerably.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: pellius on October 08, 2009, 01:06:15 PM
That and the ridiculous "Chernobyl tan."  ::)

Racist.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Tapeworm on October 08, 2009, 01:10:20 PM
Good point. Now you're tempting me. I admit that I am kind of shriveled looking but that's because I don't train and eat like a bodybuilder which is more important than any kind of hormone one is on. I think a good 10-15 pounds of just water weight alone will fill me out considerably.

You're old enough to do what you want, grandpa.  ;)  The kid asking gh15 for advice sounded a little newer on the scene.


Sorry Sev but that 3D Star of David is tacky as hell. 
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Cleanest Natural on October 08, 2009, 01:10:21 PM
Racist.
no..you just look like  an overtanned septuagenarian divorcee with implants

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Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Tapeworm on October 08, 2009, 01:17:13 PM
it's a tetrahedron moron not the "star of david" you dim witted fuck

read above

your mother wishes she'd aborted you back in the day after reading this moronic post

true story

You really see no similarity?  Right side up triangle & upside down triangle.  You've got pyramids instead.  It's cool.  The Jews are an ancient peoples.  Be proud.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: pellius on October 08, 2009, 01:19:28 PM
You're old enough to do what you want, grandpa.  ;)  The kid asking gh15 for advice sounded a little newer on the scene.

Sorry Sev but that 3D Star of David is tacky as hell. 

"GRANDPA!"

Ouch! Always got to give the knife that extra twist.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Captain Equipoise on October 08, 2009, 01:30:49 PM
;)

I really wear it. The difference between me and other owners of this pendant is : " I make this shit look good "  8)

You look like Andre Agassi
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Tapeworm on October 08, 2009, 01:34:23 PM
no I don't Stevie Wonder

tetrahedron is a 3d shape ... a star is bi dimensional ... stick to shit you know ;)

it's the shape of God Mind

something your dimwitted brain will never be able to gasp  :-*

Yahweh loves you for your inverted pyramids.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: pellius on October 08, 2009, 01:34:28 PM
no..you just look like  an overtanned septuagenarian divorcee with implants
 

Coming from someone who went bald in his twenties.

BTW, what implants? I thought I had no noticeable muscular development.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Cleanest Natural on October 08, 2009, 01:38:43 PM
Coming from someone who went bald in his twenties.

BTW, what implants? I thought I had no noticeable muscular development.
you don't lol
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: dr.chimps on October 08, 2009, 01:41:50 PM
no I don't Stevie Wonder

tetrahedron is a 3d shape ... a star is bi dimensional ... stick to shit you know ;)

it's the shape of God Mind

something your dimwitted brain will never be able to gasp  :-*
LOL. How would you know!? Hell, how would anyone know?  ;)
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: pellius on October 08, 2009, 01:46:35 PM
LOL. How would you know!? Hell, how would anyone know?  ;)

If you hang out with a shape-shifting, reptilian, admitted pedophile, you will know.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Tapeworm on October 08, 2009, 01:47:27 PM
LOL. How would you know!? Hell, how would anyone know?  ;)

Sevastase shits hypercubes and saves his urine in Klein bottles.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: dr.chimps on October 08, 2009, 01:51:27 PM
Sevastase shits hypercubes and saves his urine in Klein bottles.

If you hang out with a shape-shifting, reptilian, admitted pedophile, you will know.

Obviously, I'm not subscribing to the proper newsletter. Where the fark is my omniscient periodical!   >:(
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: pellius on October 08, 2009, 01:56:49 PM
Obviously, I'm not subscribing to the proper newsletter. Where the fark is my omniscient periodical!   >:(

Your naivete disgusts me. Let me spell it out for you.

Star Tetrahedron Pendant

 Boost your mental powers while imprinting your mind-pattern of protection. These three archetypes ~ tetrahedron up, tetrahedron down, circle ~ replicate in your auric field to enhance your personal safety and protection.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: pellius on October 08, 2009, 01:59:43 PM
you don't lol

How do I get those deeply etched delt/upper arm tie in you got going here?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=298549.0;attach=339956;image)
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: dr.chimps on October 08, 2009, 02:06:11 PM
Your naivete disgusts me. Let me spell it out for you.

Star Tetrahedron Pendant

 Boost your mental powers while imprinting your mind-pattern of protection. These three archetypes ~ tetrahedron up, tetrahedron down, circle ~ replicate in your auric field to enhance your personal safety and protection.
Ah, I see. Well, it's obviously my auric field which is on the fritz. That's the problem. I'll swing by the auric shop tomorrow and have that seen to. My personal safety and protection is something I take very seriously.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: pugalist666 on October 08, 2009, 02:40:44 PM
How do I get those deeply etched delt/upper arm tie in you got going here?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=298549.0;attach=339956;image)
HAHA  with out teh drugs he is nothing
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: pellius on October 08, 2009, 06:22:11 PM
those?

How many years ago were those taken? It's one thing to get in shape. It's quite another to stay in shape. Your lack of discipline sickens me.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Cleanest Natural on October 08, 2009, 11:02:59 PM
How many years ago were those taken? It's one thing to get in shape. It's quite another to stay in shape. Your lack of discipline sickens me.
2 years ago. my lack of discipline ??

or maybe I don't give a fuck about being ripped or buff... in the past 7-8 years I never worked out for more than 2-3 months at a pop. what you see there I can do in exactly 7-8 weeks and absolutely no drugs or fatburners.

unlike you :

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Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: dustin on October 08, 2009, 11:13:28 PM
I'd rather look like an out of shape Sev than.... whatever pellius is lookin' like these days. That GH gut is brutal and that skin.... Jesus....

Sorry, man. Kudos on the conditioning but that skin looks fucking nasty. No two ways about it. Can't beat around the bush. Hide from the sun for the next 12 months. It'll do you some good.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: UpTheDosage on October 08, 2009, 11:31:39 PM
It's pretty hilarious. It reminds me of chicks who refuse to lift weights because they think they're going to explode with muscle. As if people without a myostatin deficiency actually run into that problem. I think most bodybuilders would love to have that problem. I know I would!

OMG i know . . when i used to be a personal trainer (and then i finally grew up and realized i needed to get a real job) most of my clients were women every single one them thought they would get fucking huge from doing a few sets of any type of lifting.

And I wasn't saying it wouldn't be noticeable to a "trained bodybuilding schmoe eye" that someone is juicing, but the general public is FUCKING CLUELESS as to who is on steroids. And every once in a while you will have those people that juice their brains out and still look like shit and nobody would ever know they even worked out. 
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: pellius on October 09, 2009, 01:54:26 AM
2 years ago. my lack of discipline ??

or maybe I don't give a fuck about being ripped or buff... in the past 7-8 years I never worked out for more than 2-3 months at a pop. what you see there I can do in exactly 7-8 weeks and absolutely no drugs or fatburners.
 

OK. That I can get. You finally made a reasonable and sensible post. I retract my "my lack of discipline" comment.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: pellius on October 09, 2009, 01:59:12 AM
I'd rather look like an out of shape Sev than.... whatever pellius is lookin' like these days. That GH gut is brutal and that skin.... Jesus....

Sorry, man. Kudos on the conditioning but that skin looks fucking nasty. No two ways about it. Can't beat around the bush. Hide from the sun for the next 12 months. It'll do you some good.

God, one defective bottle of Pro Tan and I'm tarnished for life. And what's with the GH gut? I've never used GH in my life (but wish I could). I participate in a contact sport and got an umbilical hernia that I let go for about 9 months (I didn't know what it was and it was only mildly painful). It's only when people started commenting that it looked like a thumb was coming out of my navel and my belly started to distend that I got it fixed.

What does your waist line look like?
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: dustin on October 09, 2009, 02:34:36 AM
God, one defective bottle of Pro Tan and I'm tarnished for life. And what's with the GH gut? I've never used GH in my life (but wish I could). I participate in a contact sport and got an umbilical hernia that I let go for about 9 months (I didn't know what it was and it was only mildly painful). It's only when people started commenting that it looked like a thumb was coming out of my navel and my belly started to distend that I got it fixed.

What does your waist line look like?


You mentioned your geographic location being the cause of your  skin in another thread? Hmm...

Sorry to hear about the hernia though. With your sun roasted skin and pertruding stomach it looks like the prototypical GH gut. Hopefully corrective surgery will aid. And I hope that tans worn off lol

My waistlines more trim than it's been in years. It's 2:30am and I just finished an hour of cardio. In 8 hours I'll bang out another one and then workout before work.

Still got a ways to go. Getting into contest condition or at least the two- three-weeks out look. I want to hold conditioning there for a bit. Let cortisol levelsand other catabolic hormones dissipate then lean bulk. Never going to lose my abs again. Realized that you can bulk but not look like a slob in the process. 
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: pellius on October 09, 2009, 03:01:50 AM
You mentioned your geographic location being the cause of your  skin in another thread? Hmm...

Sorry to hear about the hernia though. With your sun roasted skin and pertruding stomach it looks like the prototypical GH gut. Hopefully corrective surgery will aid. And I hope that tans worn off lol

My waistlines more trim than it's been in years. It's 2:30am and I just finished an hour of cardio. In 8 hours I'll bang out another one and then workout before work.

Still got a ways to go. Getting into contest condition or at least the two- three-weeks out look. I want to hold conditioning there for a bit. Let cortisol levelsand other catabolic hormones dissipate then lean bulk. Never going to lose my abs again. Realized that you can bulk but not look like a slob in the process.  

Not necessarily geographical location (Hawaii) but rather life style. I'm out in the sun a lot. When those pics were taken I had spent all day at the beach the previous day (about a good 6 hours of tropical sun light). Also, it was a hot day and I sweat a lot and had to keep toweling off. I'm not sure if that had anything to do with it but someone asked if I was using tanning oil. Also, it could be just camera and lighting. If you look at this picture, taken only minutes before, I'm not so dark. Also, you may notice that when I stand naturally and relax I kind of keep my shoulders back and chest out. It's not that I'm trying to be cocky or pick a fight but I also have what is called "sway back" ( not sure if you've ever heard of that) where your spine is curved more than normal (I've had back problems since I was in high school when I reached my full height 6'2" though now I've loss a half an inch due to the disk compressing). Anyway, the bad posture doesn't help with the GH gut look but you can see the difference in skin tone from this picture and the other one where I look much darker (and yes, Sevas, I know I'm on the skinny side by GetBig standards. But I competed for years in tournament Jiu-Jitsu in 187 lb class. I'd rather be a big light heavy than a small heavy weight. I never said I was a bodybuilder which is why I was so reluctant to post pics).
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=295769.0;attach=336359;image)
 
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Cleanest Natural on October 09, 2009, 03:41:57 AM
is this the contact sport you competed in for so many years ?

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Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: pellius on October 09, 2009, 03:59:13 AM
I don't give a fuck about your oppinion honestly lizard man. The only thing you could retract is that huge dildo called "illusion of looking decent" out of your rectum.

The difference between me and you is astronomical. Yes I am cocky especially with desilusional dimwitted bumfucks such as yourself.

Remember when you were complaining a year or more back that you were raided by the feds for steroids and other " substances " ?

remember the feds finding 13 shotguns in your apartament ?

remember how you posted here like a crybaby that you were flat broke and had no money ?

remember when I started a thread about pledging money from getbiggers to help you out of your misery because you sounded so sad and pathetic crying non stop about how you don't even have rent and will be homeless ?

remember I was also the first to offer you 50 $ and encouraged others to give as well ?

remember when you were posting that you were so depressed your apartament was a huge mess and the floor was filled with garbage ?

remember when you said you had to dig a trail in the trash on the floor to finally go get a shower after considerable time dwelling in your misery ?

well, that combined with the rest of your posts until today got me to this conclusion

YOU ARE A SAD PATHETIC 50 YO LOSER WHO NOT ONLY IS USELESS AND LOOKS LIKE ABSOLUTE SHITE BUT HAS THE BALLS TO BRAG ABOUT IT

go fucking do something with your life and stop being pathetic  you sad creepy preggo roided bum.


I'm sensing anger. And no I don't remember your list. And, at least of today, I am in much better shape than you. You may not like my look but functional ability and athletic performance far exceeds yours. Toe to toe you wouldn't last 45 seconds with me.

You're come across as a slimey, low life, Euro thrash. What kind of creep constantly post pics of himself and the hook nose skanks that he bangs, along with your dance performances, rapping ability, extensive collection of gay porn and whatever else you feel the need to share? You're desperate attempts and need for validity and approval on a bodybuilding message board, in addition to your weird beliefs, belies a troubling insecurity and a peculating perversion. You'll need more than that gaudy magic necklace of yours.

Please don't come here, creep. We need more guys like Okami rather ghoulish sleaze bags like you.
  
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: pellius on October 09, 2009, 04:10:09 AM
And you keep accusing me of being "roided out" when you, recently, actually posted a vid of you downing your naps. What kind of creep would do that? And why?

What a sleaze ball with serious issues.

And, though I had a tough time when I got laid off my aerospace job in California things have improve tremendously. I'm having a great life here in Hawaii. Actually content and happy. I can see why you are so desperate to get out of the third world shit hole that you live in. 
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: pellius on October 09, 2009, 04:24:21 AM
What was that again? I look horrible and I'm delusional? And you post something like this?

Douche bag says what?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=300512.0;attach=342412;image)
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Cleanest Natural on October 09, 2009, 10:46:59 AM
 :D

3 post meltdown from a 60 yo cagefighter

toe to toe ? :D

sorry but I do not hit the elderly


Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: emn1964 on October 09, 2009, 01:20:32 PM
I don't give a fuck about your oppinion honestly lizard man. The only thing you could retract is that huge dildo called "illusion of looking decent" out of your rectum.

The difference between me and you is astronomical. Yes I am cocky especially with desilusional dimwitted bumfucks such as yourself.

Remember when you were complaining a year or more back that you were raided by the feds for steroids and other " substances " ?

remember the feds finding 13 shotguns in your apartament ?

remember how you posted here like a crybaby that you were flat broke and had no money ?

remember when I started a thread about pledging money from getbiggers to help you out of your misery because you sounded so sad and pathetic crying non stop about how you don't even have rent and will be homeless ?

remember I was also the first to offer you 50 $ and encouraged others to give as well ?

remember when you were posting that you were so depressed your apartament was a huge mess and the floor was filled with garbage ?

remember when you said you had to dig a trail in the trash on the floor to finally go get a shower after considerable time dwelling in your misery ?

well, that combined with the rest of your posts until today got me to this conclusion

YOU ARE A SAD PATHETIC 50 YO LOSER WHO NOT ONLY IS USELESS AND LOOKS LIKE ABSOLUTE SHITE BUT HAS THE BALLS TO BRAG ABOUT IT

go fucking do something with your life and stop being pathetic  you sad creepy preggo roided bum.




fuck, that's right Sev, Pellius was the guy that claimed to have been busted for steroids!  I claimed bullshit back then and still claiming bullshit.  Damn Sev, you gypsies don't forget...
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Captain Equipoise on October 09, 2009, 04:00:17 PM
Getting some...
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Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: pellius on October 09, 2009, 04:16:08 PM
Oh god, listen to you guys. The whole point of that posts was as a warning to personal users that you are not safe if you are sloppy and stupid and flaunt the law. I started HRT after I turned 40 yrs under an endocrinologists. This was covered by my insurance. After I got laid off from Raytheon Missile Systems I lost that coverage. I ordered off the net. When an order got seized I simply ignored it and the supplier resent. I also place another concurrent order with another supplier just in case the other one got seized. I didn't believe this idea that your address was flagged. I was wrong. Now I have another two seizures in addition to the first one. That's flaunting the law. But I felt that the most that will happen was that I would just be out of the money. I also had a shit load of firearms that I had accumulated from years of being a competitive shooter and being a hunter. It was a hobby that I enjoyed and even reloaded and made my own ammunition on a Dillion Precision 550. Another hobby I enjoyed.

When I moved to Hawaii I didn't re-register those guns, many which are now illegal and are considered assault weapons. Since they were bought legally in California I really didn't know I had to register them again and turn in the others that were not legal in Hawaii. The seizure alerted LE and when it becomes a matter of guns and weapons they don't know who they are dealing with. Hence the raid.

After the interrogation they pretty much knew I was no criminal and let me go that day without having to post bail. It never went to trial. I never had to hire a lawyer. And the charges were dropped. I'm still here, right?

Again the whole point of the posts was as a warning to those who do order steroids over the net that just because you are a personal user, if you are sloppy, if you spit in the face of LE and just ignore their warnings then they will get you. At this point in time LE has a real hard on for anabolics, HGH and the like. I don't get it but it is what it is.

I consider this just another example of our myopic drug laws and a horrendous waste of scarce resources. Hawaii is laying off public employees and requiring teachers to take force furloughs. Yet, they have the money to send a SWAT team for a $190 order for testosterone.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Captain Equipoise on October 09, 2009, 04:19:48 PM
Which assault rifles were you in possession of ? AR-15's ? shit like that?
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: emn1964 on October 09, 2009, 04:25:59 PM
Oh god, listen to you guys. The whole point of that posts was as a warning to personal users that you are not safe if you are sloppy and stupid and flaunt the law. I started HRT after I turned 40 yrs under an endocrinologists. This was covered by my insurance. After I got laid off from Raytheon Missile Systems I lost that coverage. I ordered off the net. When an order got seized I simply ignored it and the supplier resent. I also place another concurrent order with another supplier just in case the other one got seized. I didn't believe this idea that your address was flagged. I was wrong. Now I have another two seizures in addition to the first one. That's flaunting the law. But I felt that the most that will happen was that I would just be out of the money. I also had a shit load of firearms that I had accumulated from years of being a competitive shooter and being a hunter. It was a hobby that I enjoyed and even reloaded and made my own ammunition on a Dillion Precision 550. Another hobby I enjoyed.

When I moved to Hawaii I didn't re-register those guns, many which are now illegal and are considered assault weapons. Since they were bought legally in California I really didn't know I had to register them again and turn in the others that were not legal in Hawaii. The seizure alerted LE and when it becomes a matter of guns and weapons they don't know who they are dealing with. Hence the raid.

After the interrogation they pretty much knew I was no criminal and let me go that day without having to post bail. It never went to trial. I never had to hire a lawyer. And the charges were dropped. I'm still here, right?

Again the whole point of the posts was as a warning to those who do order steroids over the net that just because you are a personal user, if you are sloppy, if you spit in the face of LE and just ignore their warnings then they will get you. At this point in time LE has a real hard on for anabolics, HGH and the like. I don't get it but it is what it is.

I consider this just another example of our myopic drug laws and a horrendous waste of scarce resources. Hawaii is laying off public employees and requiring teachers to take force furloughs. Yet, they have the money to send a SWAT team for a $190 order for testosterone.


calling bullshit on your story.  How did a seizure letter alert LE that you had guns in your possession?  I mean you are claiming that the reason for the SWAT team raid was weapons.  But the police didn't know you had weapons just from the seizure letter.  Story sounds like utter bullshit.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: pellius on October 09, 2009, 04:40:23 PM
Which assault rifles were you in possession of ? AR-15's ? shit like that?


I don't think people realize the difference between civilian type weapons and military type. The AR-15 shoots a .223 caliber ONLY in semi-automatic mode. Meaning, I shot for each trigger pull. The military version, the M-16 has the additional option of three burst mode or fully automatic.

Functionally, there is no difference between the AR-15 and the Ruger Mini-14. They both shoot the same round in semi-automatic mode but one just "looks" more lethal than the other whereas in actuality they will both blow your brains out with equal aplomb.
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y236/ofcjim40/ar15-10.jpg)
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Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: pellius on October 09, 2009, 04:46:28 PM
calling bullshit on your story.  How did a seizure letter alert LE that you had guns in your possession?  I mean you are claiming that the reason for the SWAT team raid was weapons.  But the police didn't know you had weapons just from the seizure letter.  Story sounds like utter bullshit.

Sir, it doesn't matter to me if you believe me or not. I don't know why you would think I would just make this up out of the blue. I will assure you of this, when they start investigating you it doesn't take much to know everything about you. My firearms purchases were a matter of record. I got a controlled delivery because of the seizures. Why they came with a SWAT team I cannot concretely explain. I'm just speculating.

But if you don't believe me you don't believe me. That pretty much puts an end to the discussion.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Captain Equipoise on October 09, 2009, 04:46:35 PM
I don't think people realize the difference between civilian type weapons and military type. The AR-15 shoots a .223 caliber ONLY in semi-automatic mode. Meaning, I shot for each trigger pull. The military version, the M-16 has the additional option of three burst mode or fully automatic.

Functionally, there is no difference between the AR-15 and the Ruger Mini-14. They both shoot the same round in semi-automatic mode but one just "looks" more lethal than the other whereas in actuality they will both blow your brains out with equal aplomb.
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y236/ofcjim40/ar15-10.jpg)
(http://www.ruger.com/Firearms/images/Product-Variations/222.jpg)

1) You still didn't answer my question
2) You hit the nail on the head with your opening statement, the reason it's considered an assault rifle is a) because it shoots 3 round bursts and full auto WHICH the civilian version does NOT and b) because of the magazine capacity of the military version while the civilian version is restricted to 5 (this depends on the gun as well)
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: pellius on October 09, 2009, 04:51:03 PM
Which assault rifles were you in possession of ? AR-15's ? shit like that?


Another example is a rifle I had called a MAK-90. It was a semi automatic version of the AK-47. When I bought mine it had a pistol grip. That is illegal. If I had gotten one with a "thumb hole stock" meaning that they just connect the pistol grip to the stock so you just have this hole to put your thumb through for your pistol grip that would be legal. It changes nothing other than appearance. A thumb hole grip doesn't look as bad as a pistol grip but it shoots the exact same bullet in the exact same way.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: pellius on October 09, 2009, 05:10:31 PM
1) You still didn't answer my question
2) You hit the nail on the head with your opening statement, the reason it's considered an assault rifle is a) because it shoots 3 round bursts and full auto WHICH the civilian version does NOT and b) because of the magazine capacity of the military version while the civilian version is restricted to 5 (this depends on the gun as well)


I'm sorry, what question didn't I answer? You're right about magazine capacity but that only applies, at least at the time, to the firearm when you buy it. There were many after market magazines that had a higher capacity. The magazines were illegal but the gun itself wouldn't be (assuming it was legal in the first place).
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Captain Equipoise on October 09, 2009, 05:14:15 PM
I'm sorry, what question didn't I answer? You're right about magazine capacity but that only applies, at least at the time, to the firearm when you buy it. There were many after market magazines that had a higher capacity. The magazines were illegal but the gun itself wouldn't be (assuming it was legal in the first place).

The question was what firearms you had and what was seized and why? if you don't feel like disclosing specifics I understand.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: pellius on October 09, 2009, 05:22:18 PM
The question was what firearms you had and what was seized and why? if you don't feel like disclosing specifics I understand.


Well, I had a bunch and I'd really have to sit down and take stock of all the guns that I possessed. A lot was also stored at my uncles house because the place I was staying at at the time was very small.

But they simply took them all, legal and illegal. The ones that were illegal were the AR, Mak-90, SKS, some Russian one that I forget the name of. There may have been others I can't be sure because of different state laws. I had a sweet Benelli that they took. My sentimental favorite the Ruger P-89 (cheap but sturdy gun that I would just shoot the crap out of and never clean. They took my carry gun the Glock 19. I had some customized 1911 that I use for competition.

Crap man, you're making me cry. Now, I'm angry. Those fascist! I want my guns back!! They were my pride and joy.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: pellius on October 09, 2009, 05:29:40 PM
BTW, people who are not into guns have a lot of preconceived notions. Like if you have a lot of guns you are more dangerous when in reality you can only shoot one at a time. My first gun instructor had over 350 firearms in his house. Why does anyone need 350 firearms? Well, you don't. But in a presumably free society what you decide to own isn't always or only based on need. Why does someone need 5 TV sets? Why do you need a Shelby Mustang or a Corvette? How many shoes do you need? 

Also, what's  considered a lot to one may not be to others. There were some sweet handguns that I had on my shopping list. To put it in a bodybuilding perspective, say a clueless cop finds 50 amps of omnas in a bodybuilder's closet. They will think WTF? What kind of drug addict is this guy? Whereas in reality 50 amps for a competitive bodybuilder is at minimum a 10 week supply. So it's all relative.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: pellius on October 09, 2009, 05:38:22 PM
I use to teach a class in firearm awareness and there was this demonstration I use to do with the Ruger mini-14. I would show two versions, not telling they were the exact same rifle. They would unanimously agree that the "Black" version should be outlawed and when I would take it apart and prove that they were the EXACT same firearm it would put a different perspective on things.
(http://members.arstechnica.com/x/excelon/Ruger%20Mini-14%20Black%20Stock.jpg)
(http://www.ruger.com/Firearms/images/Product-Variations/222.jpg)
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: dustin on October 09, 2009, 10:24:19 PM
I don't know about you guys but I think that getting charged with unregistered firearms, by a technicality, is nothing to laugh at someone for. It's just arguing semantics. It's not like he bought a 9mm off Jamal in a back alley someone to bust up some crazy ass niggas. Who gives a fuck? Bunch of whiny grannies.

In any event, you're not a bad guy, pellius. Sorry about the skin comment. I'm sure that without that tan you look a lot more terrestrial lol.. I aspire to be as lean as you soon enough, just a little bigger. It's good that you're staying in shape and living the good life. Sounds like you had a good thing going but whatever. Life is what you make of it now. No need to dwell on the past. You're living in the present so that's all that matters.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: pellius on October 10, 2009, 01:32:39 AM
I don't know about you guys but I think that getting charged with unregistered firearms, by a technicality, is nothing to laugh at someone for. It's just arguing semantics. It's not like he bought a 9mm off Jamal in a back alley someone to bust up some crazy ass niggas. Who gives a fuck? Bunch of whiny grannies.

In any event, you're not a bad guy, pellius. Sorry about the skin comment. I'm sure that without that tan you look a lot more terrestrial lol.. I aspire to be as lean as you soon enough, just a little bigger. It's good that you're staying in shape and living the good life. Sounds like you had a good thing going but whatever. Life is what you make of it now. No need to dwell on the past. You're living in the present so that's all that matters.

Thanks Dustin. I'll try to use more sun block.

About the situation, it was just bad luck and sloppy judgment. gh15 always says that LE are not concerned with personal users but he was assuming that you're not an idiot. If you spit in their face they have to do something. Cops here don't give a crap if you smoke pakalolo as 80% of the population here does. Including LE. It's just part of the culture. But it's still illegal and if you blow the smoke in their face you're going to jail.

LE was cool. Once it became clear what the situation was they weren't going to bother with it. If I want my guns back then I am the one that will have to pursue it but a good friend of mine that I went to high school with and is in the department said that just count your blessings and let it go.

It was kind of funny as I was sitting in the garage BSing with some of the detectives as my place was being trashed and they were hauling out my arsenal as my neighbors looked on in horror (talk about embarrassment) when I saw one of them taking my beloved Glock 19 (which saved my ass on more than one occasion when I was living in Inglewood, CA) I just instinctively called out, "No, please. Not the Glock!" The officer just looked at me and shook his head. The detective I was talking to just said, "Yeah, I can imagine how you feel."

Life has it's up and downs. But I live in a nice rural area where there's no traffic or crowds. The gravel and dirt roads are a pain when it rains. I have to wear ear plugs because I don't get up as early as the freakin' roosters. It's no fun when I came home last Wednesday only to see a spider as big as my head right over the sofa (I always think of OnlyMe when I see a huge spider (time out in peace, big guy)). And a couple of months ago I left a half eaten plate lunch in my truck only to find in the morning a bunch of monster river rats on my front seat tearing it apart. And those fukers don't scare easy. I had to go a few rounds with a broom before I could get them out of there. But at least I don't have to do yard work (you can't cut a jungle) and it's quiet at night and I can actually see stars in the sky. And once the locals get use to you they become your extended family and have your back.

Hah! Speak of the devil. As I was typing this a mouse just slip in under my door but just got snagged by those sticky traps that I keep on each side. I catch one every couple of weeks. I love watching them try to wiggle out with this expression like "Oh shit, what just happened? I can't move!"

Yeah, so it's a matter of trade offs. I'm sure Benny Blanco's mansion is way bigger than my grass hut and his pay check makes me look like a poor man. But I can look out one window and see (and walk to) the Pacific ocean and look out the other window and see the Koolau mountain range. And the set of Lost is exactly 3 miles from my garage. Oh, and I also get to be gh15's neighbor when he's in town. That's something a fat paycheck can't buy.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=295769.0;attach=336367;image)
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Fatpanda on October 10, 2009, 06:03:59 AM
:-*

seva looking like a stalion in this pic  ;D
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Cleanest Natural on October 10, 2009, 07:43:00 AM
seva looking like a stalion in this pic  ;D
:D
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: dr.chimps on October 10, 2009, 09:08:24 AM
Yet, they have the money to send a SWAT team for a $190 order for testosterone.
More common than you think. Once you've militarized your police force and provided it with a nice budget, you have to use it or lose it. So, you get these 'SWAT' teams busting up picnics, etc. Funny, but not funny.  ::)
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Mr Nobody on October 10, 2009, 11:44:13 AM
 ;)