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If he would have continued to compete after the 1997 Mr. Olympia, could he have improved any? Could he have filled out his arm and streamlined his waist? Could he have gotten even bigger?
Discuss
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If he would have continued to compete after the 1997 Mr. Olympia, could he have improved any? Could he have filled out his arm and streamlined his waist? Could he have gotten even bigger?
Discuss
streamlined his waist yes , the arms were destroyed if he went injury free he would have kept improving but not what happened
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I don't think so, which I would think is why he retired.
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By his own admission, No ! He alway's said if he could not train at 100 percent and improve over his previous outing, he would hang it up. He did just that !
And for sure he could not improve his arms. ( Bi + Tri ) torn. At least he new when to hang it up. As for others ( Nasser, Ronnie ) they should have followed suit.
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nah.....
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I always thought he called it a day because of politics. That he was essentially forced (or politely asked to step down by the powers that be) to retire, so that the sport could have a NEW face (a NEW Mr. Olympia)?
Kind of like Bill Kazmaier not being asked to compete in 1983.
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I always thought he called it a day because of politics. That he was essentially forced (or politely asked to step down by the powers that be) to retire, so that the sport could have a NEW face (a NEW Mr. Olympia)?
Kind of like Bill Kazmaier not being asked to compete in 1983.
No he retired in 1998 because he thought he could have the triceps tendon reattached but after realizing it would never be right so he retired on his own accord
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Well my post was verbatim from Dorian himself. ::) End of thread !
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No he retired in 1998 because he thought he could have the triceps tendon reattached but after realizing it would never be right so he retired on his own accord
I wonder what he would have brought to the table in 1998 if he chose to compete. Would it have been worse than 1997?
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Well my post was verbatim from Dorian himself. ::) End of thread !
I know what he said to the public, but we also know that the sport was run by ONE man: Joe Weider and we all know that Dorian was a fighter. After all, he competed in 1994 with a bicep tear and quad tear and in 1997 with a tricep tear. SO, we know that injuries never stopped him before (he did not improve from 1993 to 1994, nor did he improve from 1995 to 1996).
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I don't think so, which I would think is why he retired.
He announced at the 98 Olympia that he felt because he was unable to make any improvements with his arm, he felt it best to retire.
By his own admission, No ! He alway's said if he could not train at 100 percent and improve over his previous outing, he would hang it up. He did just that !
And for sure he could not improve his arms. ( Bi + Tri ) torn. At least he new when to hang it up. As for others ( Nasser, Ronnie ) they should have followed suit.
Dorian could have hung it up one year earlier, and nobody would have complained, except maybe ND. :P
No he retired in 1998 because he thought he could have the triceps tendon reattached but after realizing it would never be right so he retired on his own accord
Never heard that version. ???
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Danimal : For sure Dorian was a warrior ! And for sure there was Uncle Joe politics around back then, but Dorian said he could not improve with his past injuries. I tend to believe that, since his body was not getting any better. At least he did not ruin his legacy by continuing to compete.
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He announced at the 98 Olympia that he felt because he was unable to make any improvements with his arm, he felt it best to retire.
Dorian could have hung it up one year earlier, and nobody would have complained, except maybe ND. :P
Never heard that version. ???
he was a tad smaller in 96 but good enough to beat everyone
and yeah he was holding out hope for 98 but it never panned out
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he was a tad smaller in 96 but good enough to beat everyone
and yeah he was holding out hope for 98 but it never panned out
Spot on. He didn't announce his retirement until the night of the 98 Mr Olympia - he only said that he was pulling out of that contest. But then he then learned that the arm would never be as good as before, not to mention it would compromise all his lifts and therefore, his look onstage.
I think if he never got injured, he could have eventually competed at 280 - 285 lb, with his trademark dryness and would've carried it way better than Ronnie did.
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Spot on. He didn't announce his retirement until the night of the 98 Mr Olympia - he only said that he was pulling out of that contest. But then he then learned that the arm would never be as good as before, not to mention it would compromise all his lifts and therefore, his look onstage.
I think if he never got injured, he could have eventually competed at 280 - 285 lb, with his trademark dryness and would've carried it way better than Ronnie did.
I clearly remember a Flex magazine article from a month or two before the Mr. Olympia, where Dorian was picking his favorites for 1998, so it couldn't have been the night of that he announced he wasn't retiring.
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I clearly remember a Flex magazine article from a month or two before the Mr. Olympia, where Dorian was picking his favorites for 1998, so it couldn't have been the night of that he announced he wasn't retiring.
Before the contest, he only said he was pulling out of it. He wished the competitors good luck and said he'd be back the following year (99). But on the night of the contest, he announced that he wasn't just pulling out of that contest but was in fact, retiring from competition altogether.
He was picking his favorites for 98 pre-contest because he knew he wasn't going to compete in it anyway.
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and he was glad he didn't.
he would have lost badly..
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If he would have continued to compete after the 1997 Mr. Olympia, could he have improved any? Could he have filled out his arm and streamlined his waist? Could he have gotten even bigger?
Discuss
you mean if he didnt tear his triceps??.. in this case only yes he could have at least repeated the shape of 95..
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I clearly remember a Flex magazine article from a month or two before the Mr. Olympia, where Dorian was picking his favorites for 1998, so it couldn't have been the night of that he announced he wasn't retiring.
This is Dorian at the 1998 Mr Olympia announcing his retirement
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Hulkster being an idiot again in a Dorian thread...nice pic comparison there ::)
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he was actually training for the 98, but in may he said he was not at the place he wanted to be, and knew the triceps would keep him from being better than the year before so he went out w/ a 15-2 record (and the 2 losses were second place).
keep taking shit hulky, Yates with a repaired triceps and 95-96 condition would have won again. and again. and again. ;D
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This is Dorian at the 1998 Mr Olympia announcing his retirement
There used to be a framed copy of that retirement speech Dorian is holding in his hand there up in Temple Gym - I can't remember exactly what it said but it was taken down some years ago - I imagine it's still in the gym somewhere.
To answer the question, would he have improved upon the 97 Olympia? IMO who knows - it's just speculation, but one thing's for certin, if hadn't tore his tricep, he would have competed and yes, he would have won over Ronnie and Flex.
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This is Dorian at the 1998 Mr Olympia announcing his retirement
Looks to be size 50" ish pants :o No way was his waist getting streamlined for 98!
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=301171.0;attach=342819;image)
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Looks to be size 50" ish pants :o No way was his waist getting streamlined for 98!
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=301171.0;attach=342819;image)
50ish? ;D
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50ish? ;D
BOOOOOM!!!!
(btw the 98 pose of Dorian is generous in that one's waist usually looks streamlined when stretching an arm out like that, as opposed to shots you posted with Nasser sucking in air)
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BOOOOOM!!!!
(btw the 98 pose of Dorian is generous in that one's waist usually looks streamlined when stretching an arm out like that, as opposed to shots you posted with Nasser sucking in air)
Boommmmmmm another contest he lost to Dorian Yates ;)
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Yates with a repaired triceps and 95-96 condition would have won again. and again. and again.
slight problem with your logic:
even dorian in his 95 shape with better arms and a smaller waist still gets crushed: :P
so no, he would have lost again and again and again..
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BOOOOOM!!!!
(btw the 98 pose of Dorian is generous in that one's waist usually looks streamlined when stretching an arm out like that, as opposed to shots you posted with Nasser sucking in air)
dorian's waist was so big it was spilling all over the place in 97: :'(
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dorian's waist was so big it was spilling all over the place in 97: :'(
Still smaller than Ronnie ;)
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slight problem with your logic:
even dorian in his 95 shape with better arms and a smaller waist still gets crushed: :P
so no, he would have lost again and again and again..
9th place ;D
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Looks to be size 50" ish pants :o No way was his waist getting streamlined for 98!
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=301171.0;attach=342819;image)
You can tell all that just from viewing a photograph on a computer screen?
Wow, you should actually do something with yourself instead of arguing about a has been bodybuilder that never officially won "the big one" and instead sells his soiled undies online.
Hey, ya gotta do what you gotta do though, right? ::)
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You can tell all that just from viewing a photograph on a computer screen?
Wow, you should actually do something with yourself instead of arguing about a has been bodybuilder that never officially won "the big one" and instead sells his soiled undies online.
Hey, ya gotta do what you gotta do though, right? ::)
LMAO I didn't even post the original picture. I made a simple observation on it - those look like very large pants - no need to get your panties in a bunch! Maybe you should consider "doing something with yourself" instead of melting down over a simple observation on a photo which I didn't even post.
Hey, ya gotta do what you gotta do though, right? ::)
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Hulkster being an idiot again in a Dorian thread...nice pic comparison there ::)
again and again ....
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LMAO I didn't even post the original picture. I made a simple observation on it - those look like very large pants
Looks to be size 50" ish pants
Simple observation, eh? A simple observation would be something along the lines of "Large pants." Or "All drugs." Things like that. Why did you put an actual measurement on it if it was such a simple observation? ::)
Call it a meltdown, or whatever you'd like. I just find it ironic that you'll go to the end of the earth to defend Nasser in any way shape form possible...this time your boy is shown with a huge gut and you make yet another excuse for him.
But hey, ya gotta mock whoever you can mock, right? ::)
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LMAO I didn't even post the original picture. I made a simple observation on it - those look like very large pants - no need to get your panties in a bunch! Maybe you should consider "doing something with yourself" instead of melting down over a simple observation on a photo which I didn't even post.
Hey, ya gotta do what you gotta do though, right? ::)
Hahahahahaha Bigbobs in yet another Dorian Yates thread telling people they're melting down ;D I believe they call that irony
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Simple observation, eh? A simple observation would be something along the lines of "Large pants." Or "All drugs." Things like that. Why did you put an actual measurement on it if it was such a simple observation? ::)
Alright, sorry "YoungBlood," to save your feelings and tears next time I'll just say "Large pants," instead of adding an estimated measurement ::)
Call it a meltdown, or whatever you'd like. I just find it ironic that you'll go to the end of the earth to defend Nasser in any way shape form possible...this time your boy is shown with a huge gut and you make yet another excuse for him.
But hey, ya gotta mock whoever you can mock, right? ::)
Yet you don't find it ironic that ND will go to the end of the earth to defend Yates (actually he goes further than me, just look at his post count), and posts excuses when someone points out Dorian's large waist? But hey, ya gotta meltdown over whoever makes you melt, right? ::)
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Yet you don't find it ironic that ND will go to the end of the earth to defend Yates (actually he goes further than me, just look at his post count), and posts excuses when someone points out Dorian's large waist? But hey, ya gotta meltdown over whoever makes you melt, right? ::)
I've posted elsewhere, in many different threads but numerous times in the "truce thread," that I feel both Hulkster and ND need to do something better rather than arguing over what oiled up man in a thong looked better. And both of them do it in countless threads, hijacking (Hulkster is the main culprit of this...though ND will just 'defend himself') thread after thread if they see fit to do so.
Defend someone, and move on. But ND, Hulkster, and yourself all take it to another level when it comes to your heroes. If anyone of you were to chastise me on a critique I made...so be it. That's your opinion and we move on. But page after page, thread after thread...fuck it gets tiring. Team Soiled, Team Ronnie, Team Dorian....shit!! Can't you guys just jerk yourselves in private and not worry about someone thinking of another BBer other than your hero?! :-\
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Alright, sorry "YoungBlood," to save your feelings and tears next time I'll just say "Large pants," instead of adding an estimated measurement ::)
Yet you don't find it ironic that ND will go to the end of the earth to defend Yates (actually he goes further than me, just look at his post count), and posts excuses when someone points out Dorian's large waist? But hey, ya gotta meltdown over whoever makes you melt, right? ::)
Epic assumptions... wow look at my post count compared to yours? great logic I've been a member since 2004 you since 2007 , more wonderful logic , the difference between you and I , is I don't post exclusively about Dorian Yates , I post on a LOT of different topics , you , Hulkster , Sharma , Sheiref all post on one topic ;)
and I pointed out Nasser's large waist yet you spin it as he was ' sucking in air ' yet Dorian's his just large more hypocrisy , delusion and bias on your behalf . you're a troll not in Hulkster's league yet but you're getting there
and where are you? in yet another Dorian Yates thread , thanks for proving my point
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Epic assumptions... wow look at my post count compared to yours? great logic I've been a member since 2004 you since 2007 , more wonderful logic , the difference between you and I , is I don't post exclusively about Dorian Yates , I post on a LOT of different topics , you , Hulkster , Sharma , Sheiref all post on one topic ;)
and I pointed out Nasser's large waist yet you spin it as he was ' sucking in air ' yet Dorian's his just large more hypocrisy , delusion and bias on your behalf . you're a troll not in Hulkster's league yet but you're getting there
and where are you? in yet another Dorian Yates thread , thanks for proving my point
You've been a member for about twice as long yet your post count is approx. 5x mine therefore we post similarly lol great math skills there. I do post on several topics too - my ratio of non-Nasser to non-Nasser posts is probably better than your non-Yates to Yates posts ;)
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You've been a member for about twice as long yet your post count is approx. 5x mine therefore we post similarly lol great math skills there. I do post on several topics too - my ratio of non-Nasser to non-Nasser posts is probably better than your non-Yates to Yates posts ;)
Who cares? I post more than you and you mistakenly assumed it was all Yates related , you're wrong as usual.
Where are you yet again? ;) thanks for proving my point.
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yes if he started doing FST-7
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dorian's waist was so big it was spilling all over the place in 97: :'(
Lol, Hulkster and Big Bobs Dorian bashing again...as if Ronnie and Nasser never had a wide waist or distented stomach. If anything, they had it worse than Dorian.