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Good game. Broncos deserved to win.
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big win.
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big win.
Agreed. I'm glad Josh has been validated. Good for Denver. I don't mind seeing the pats lose to a team like that in a great game. It was a battle!
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All that matters is another Patriots loss...and that they finally lost a game that they deserved to lose.
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Not shocked at all.
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Not shocked at all.
Me neither, a 4-0 teams wins a close one at home. Pretty safe to say it could have went the way it did, beforehand. No shame losing to a team like Denver, I'm glad Josh proved all the haters wrong (Jay Cutler). The Pats have 2 more losses coming, anyway. 12-4 was my prediction this year.
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Me neither, a 4-0 teams wins a close one at home. Pretty safe to say it could have went the way it did, beforehand. No shame losing to a team like Denver, I'm glad Josh proved all the haters wrong (Jay Cutler). The Pats have 2 more losses coming, anyway. 12-4 was my prediction this year.
No shame losing to team like Denver? I sure bet you didn't think that when you first looked at this game on the Patriots 2009 schedule.
Merriweather sure looked disciplined out there. Nice taunt on Denver's last touchdown drive.
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No shame losing to team like Denver? I sure bet you didn't think that when you first looked at this game on the Patriots 2009 schedule.
Merriweather sure looked disciplined out there. Nice taunt on Denver's last touchdown drive.
Absolutly. I was one of the biggest defenders of Josh when he cut Cutler. Look it up. No shame in losing to 4-0 team in a close one. It was a great battle. You're right dude, the patriots don't have a disciplined team at all, lol. I don't feel anything when the pats lose a game. It's a game dude, I don't care that much. Good team or bad, it's all the same. I've seen three sb's in my lifetime. I'm good : )
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No shame losing to team like Denver? I sure bet you didn't think that when you first looked at this game on the Patriots 2009 schedule.
Merriweather sure looked disciplined out there. Nice taunt on Denver's last touchdown drive.
haha, saw that one coming from a mile away!
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haha, saw that one coming from a mile away!
We should count personal fouls and penalties at the end of the year and see who has more. Ravens or pats.
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Absolutly. I was one of the biggest defenders of Josh when he cut Cutler. Look it up. No shame in losing to 4-0 team in a close one. It was a great battle. You're right dude, the patriots don't have a disciplined team at all, lol. I don't feel anything when the pats lose a game. It's a game dude, I don't care that much. Good team or bad, it's all the same. I've seen three sb's in my lifetime. I'm good : )
Well, I've seen one and I sure as shit would like to see two more in my lifetime.
I feel something when the Ravens lose, for sure. Definitely won't make my Monday any better going into work tomorrow.
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I feel something when the Ravens lose, for sure. Definitely won't make my Monday any better going into work tomorrow.
As you get older, you get over losses faster. When I was a kid, I could hold onto that shit for a week!
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Pretty safe to say it could have went the way it did, beforehand.
Then why didn't they? I only heard one person give the broncos a chance and he was laughed at.
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Absolutly. I was one of the biggest defenders of Josh when he cut Cutler.
not me, I was extremely pissed at the whole thing, but come the first regular season game, I couldn't stay pissed and couldn't not root for the broncos, I suck--no backbone. My entire family was like, "you're full of shit, you're not going to root against the broncos" and I was like, "oh yes I will" Day one they were laughing at me.
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it's week 5, i still say the broncos are a fraud
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Then why didn't they? I only heard one person give the broncos a chance and he was laughed at.
I don't know. Everyone I talked to thought it would be tough for the Pats to win in Denver. Denver has had the pats number for many years. It seems like thy can't win there. Plus, I know McDaniels, and he is going to be a very, very good coach for Denver, for a long time.
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not me, I was extremely pissed at the whole thing, but come the first regular season game, I couldn't stay pissed and couldn't not root for the broncos, I suck--no backbone. My entire family was like, "you're full of shit, you're not going to root against the broncos" and I was like, "oh yes I will" Day one they were laughing at me.
Most felt the same as you. Josh is going to do good things in Denver.
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I don't know. Everyone I talked to thought it would be tough for the Pats to win in Denver. Denver has had the pats number for many years. It seems like thy can't win there. Plus, I know McDaniels, and he is going to be a very, very good coach for Denver, for a long time.
I was mainly talking about the fellas with a televised opinion. I only saw one give Denver a chance. There might have been more, I only saw one. Saw plenty that called the game for the pats. I hope you're right about McDaniels and hopefully all the BS gets chalked up to a learning experience for both Bowlen and McDaniels and left in the past.
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I was mainly talking about the fellas with a televised opinion. I only saw one give Denver a chance. There might have been more, I only saw one. Saw plenty that called the game for the pats. I hope you're right about McDaniels and hopefully all the BS gets chalked up to a learning experience for both Bowlen and McDaniels and left in the past.
Gotcha. Those guys don't watch the teams like we do, and if they knew anything, they would know that the Patriots have been losing to the Broncos for years. For whatever reason, they can't win out there.
You're going to love McDaniel's. Look how his players have been talking about him recently. They love the guy. Imo, Cutler has talent, but he's a selfish headcase. I think what McDaniel's has done so far speaks for itself. Josh is a team guy and it's working for them.
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Gotcha. Those guys don't watch the teams like we do, and if they knew anything, they would know that the Patriots have been losing to the Broncos for years. For whatever reason, they can't win out there.
You're going to love McDaniel's. Look how his players have been talking about him recently. They love the guy. Imo, Cutler has talent, but he's a selfish headcase. I think what McDaniel's has done so far speaks for itself. Josh is a team guy and it's working for them.
I agree, I think I am going to like McDaniels. I thought he was going to knock himself out after today's game, lol...
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I agree, I think I am going to like McDaniels. I thought he was going to knock himself out after today's game, lol...
I know right, but if you think about it, this is prob the biggest win of his life. He has a lot of respect for Belichick, and he admits that he runs the Denver system exactly how things are ran in New England. To beat your mentor, and to prove all the haters wrong is awesome. Belichick loved McDaniel's, and he did everything that he could to help him get the job in Denver. Belichick also mentions a lot of the innovations that McDaniel's brought to the Pats offense in 2007 and to the team. Josh is a hell of a QB coach, also. The dude is ultra smart and clearly he can run a team.
I've watched him rise from an assistant to a head coach; you've got the future now. Trust me, you're going to like him and he's going to win. Nothing wrong with losing to a team like the Broncos. Hardworking, very skilled, with a hc who is a solid guy and smart.
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I know right, but if you think about it, this is prob the biggest win of his life. He has a lot of respect for Belichick, and he admits that he runs the Denver system exactly how things are ran in New England. To beat your mentor, and to prove all the haters wrong is awesome. Belichick loved McDaniel's, and he did everything that he could to help him get the job in Denver. Belichick also mentions a lot of the innovations that McDaniel's brought to the Pats offense in 2007 and to the team. Josh is a hell of a QB coach, also. The dude is ultra smart and clearly he can run a team.
I've watched him rise from an assistant to a head coach; you've got the future now. Trust me, you're going to like him and he's going to win. Nothing wrong with losing to a team like the Broncos. Hardworking, very skilled, with a hc who is a solid guy and smart.
man I'm liking your posts today :D I really like everything you just said and hope it's spot on. and I agree this is a big win for McDaniels vs. Belichick for the reasons you mentioned.
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I have to admit I thought McDaniels was crazy for looking into another QB with Cutler in Denver. That was the one position they were set at for sure, IMO. After it was made public, the whole Denver organization handled it terribly. Cutler certainly shared some of the blame, but in his shoes, I could see why he was pissed.
The great thing is that I think McDaniels learned from it in how he handled the Marshall deal. No back and forth, he made a cut and dried decision that the player and team respected and now look where his relationship with Marshall has blossomed. Respect goes a long way.
The Denver defense is what is impressing me. They are so gutsy and were a completed joke last season.
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6-0 this was even a bigger win today against the chargers than the win against the pats for me. Priceless. :)
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6-0 this was even a bigger win today against the chargers than the win against the pats for me. Priceless. :)
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Want to wager on the sb?
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6-0 this was even a bigger win today against the chargers than the win against the pats for me. Priceless. :)
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shut your pie trap >:(
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Want to wager on the sb?
hell no, I'll take it one game at a time, it could all change. 6 - 0 is really cool and I loved them beating the chargers after last year and because I can't stand Rivers but it doesn't mean shit beyond the games won. I'm kinda superstitious that way too.
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shut your pie trap >:(
Chargers Fan?
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Chargers Fan?
giants
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...Josh is going to do good things in Denver.
Bump... I'm curious if I should still feel ok with McDaniels or if you think he's still good for Denver? LOL, he's breaking records in Denver, just not the kind of records we wanted broken lol... He's turned out to be an arrogant no talent fraud. I'm ready to say he needs to go. I've watched him get rid of the talent we did have and now he's ready to let Baily take a hike too... bah... I didn't expect miracles but I didn't expect for us to become the biggest joke in the NFL either...
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I can't say definitively, Hugo. I have no clue how he handles the media or his players. The team looked well coached the last time they played the Pats.
I know he was an offensive genius and very well liked while in NE.
At the time I posted this, I think Josh was about to go on his 6 game win streak.
I mean it's not like he has a great qb to work with. That guy did well when there was no film on him, now he's being exposed as the jag he has always been.
I hope to god Denver fires Josh so he can be the pats offensive coordinator again.
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it's week 5, i still say the broncos are a fraud
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i was right :D
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I can't say definitively, Hugo. I have no clue how he handles the media or his players. The team looked well coached the last time they played the Pats.
I know he was an offensive genius and very well liked while in NE.
At the time I posted this, I think Josh was about to go on his 6 game win streak.
I mean it's not like he has a great qb to work with. That guy did well when there was no film on him, now he's being exposed as the jag he has always been.
I hope to god Denver fires Josh so he can be the pats offensive coordinator again.
sounds good. He's not wanted in denver, you can have your wonder boy back ;D
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Chargers suck......but damn that was an ass-beatin' the Raiders put on Denver yesterday.
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Chargers suck......but damn that was an ass-beatin' the Raiders put on Denver yesterday.
omg it was freaking horrible.... I think most Broncos fans called in sick today.
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omg it was freaking horrible.... I think most Broncos fans called in sick today.
And of all teams....the Raiders, I now how Broncos fans think about the Raiders....ouch.
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sounds good. He's not wanted in denver, you can have your wonder boy back ;D
Run him out of town for me, Hugo!!!
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Run him out of town for me, Hugo!!!
drop kicked will be more likely.
what a fraud that guy is. exactly how much cheating were you guys doing over there? :-\
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drop kicked will be more likely.
what a fraud that guy is. exactly how much cheating were you guys doing over there? :-\
He led the greatest statistical offense of all time in 2007.
What exactly is he doing wrong?
Do they players get any blame?
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He led the greatest statistical offense of all time in 2007.
What exactly is he doing wrong?
Do they players get any blame?
I think Denver has some decent talent at WR and RB....Orton has played well, it was the defense that got smashed by the Raiders and special teams too. Just looked like Denver was still back at the hotel when the game started. Coaches should take a lot of heat when teams don't come out looking ready to go.
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I think Denver has some decent talent at WR and RB....Orton has played well, it was the defense that got smashed by the Raiders and special teams too. Just looked like Denver was still back at the hotel when the game started. Coaches should take a lot of heat when teams don't come out looking ready to go.
I don't disagree. I dont watch broncos games, so i'm trying to gather as much information as I can.
I know Doogie Houser, aka Josh MC'd, was well liked by players when he was in NE.
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I don't disagree. I dont watch broncos games, so i'm trying to gather as much information as I can.
I know Doogie Houser, aka Josh MC'd, was well liked by players when he was in NE
Probably more of a case of Bill keeping him in line and keeping the players motivated to play. Josh seems like a 'players coach" which usually just means pussy in NFL speak. Give me Parcells, Shanahan, Bill B, etc.... any day.
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He led the greatest statistical offense of all time in 2007.
What exactly is he doing wrong?
Do they players get any blame?
Sure, he blamed a lot of good talent and then got rid of them.
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Fired Nolan after he took a 29th ranked defense to 7th ranked, some think for Job security and they're probably right.
Got rid of Hillis Marshall Scheffler, he refused to even give Hillis a chance when we all knew what he could do. Now look at what Hillis is doing, what we knew he could be doing with the Broncos. Now he's cut off contract negotiation with Champ Baily for fuck sake.... ::) I'm sure there are a lot of teams that will gladly take Champ.
We've won 4 games of our last 17 games.
franchise record for the worst loss to our biggest rival.
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Fired Nolan after he took a 29th ranked defense to 7th ranked, some think for Job security and they're probably right.
Got rid of Hillis Marshall Scheffler, he refused to even give Hillis a chance when we all knew what he could do. Now look at what Hillis is doing, what we knew he could be doing with the Broncos. Now he's cut off contract negotiation with Champ Baily for fuck sake.... ::) I'm sure there are a lot of teams that will gladly take Champ.
We've won 4 games of our last 17 games.
franchise record for the worst loss to our biggest rival.
Wow, some of that stuff I had forgotten......plus the whole Cutler thing was handled horribly. Not saying Orton isn't playing well and Cutler is a bit douchey.....but it was just handled poorly from a coach.
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Wow, some of that stuff I had forgotten......plus the whole Cutler thing was handled horribly. Not saying Orton isn't playing well and Cutler is a bit douchey.....but it was just handled poorly from a coach.
It was handled bad with Cutler and I figured he was a new coach and he would learn a lesson from it, but he continued the same pattern which led to some of these other guys leaving.
Also, lol, he doesn't want players with a chip on their shoulder. He wants only "classy guys" on the team ::) and it's the players he sees having a chip that he's been getting rid of, no matter how talented they may be...
This post from the Broncos forum sums it up good:
It's been said that McDaniels has brought in high character individuals, and gotten rid of some malcontents. I recall some great Bronco's of the past who weren't all boy scouts, but on game day, they would punch you in the mouth. Names like Atwater, Romanowski, Sharpe, Mike Anderson, Dennis Smith, Neil Smith, Lynch, Jackson, Mecklenberg, Roulon Jones, even Elway. These guys were ballers and didn't back down from a fight. DJ and Dawk have intensity and strong character, but who else do we have with real grit and leadership? My point is, we may have players who won't stir things up, but do they have the testicular fortitude to win at all costs? Players like Moreno and Royal don't have it. Talented yes, but lacking the Eye of the Tiger. At least Marshall had a chip on his shoulder on game day. Orton does not instill a sense of confidence that he can take the team on his shoulders, or inspire them. I know Tebow is the boy scout of boy scouts, but he also seems to have leadership and that "won't be denied" attitude that the team is lacking. Maybe it is time to see what he can do? Great teams have great leaders and great coaches, where does this leave us?
He's just a bad head coach. He gave up Sunday's game after the first quarter, no attempt to coach, mainly just stood there looking dumbfounded and by the third quarter it was impossible to win and many thought he would be putting in Tebow or Quinn. At that point why would you risk your quarterback, but he kept ortin in to the very last. I can keep going with this guy. He's had several times where it was clear as day worthy of a challenge and he just stood there, didn't even think about putting his hand on the red flag.
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Tell him to fuck off and move back to NE.
Who will the Broncs bring in?
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Tell him to fuck off and move back to NE.
Who will the Broncs bring in?
Maybe they can bring Wade Phillips in for another run..... ;D
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Tell him to fuck off and move back to NE.
Who will the Broncs bring in?
first part is already done bigtime, second part, I don't know. Theres been a lot of names brought up, several I would easily be more happy giving a chance. Maybe Cowher, who knows.
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Doubtful regarding Cowher.
I've heard the Chargers defensive coordinator is generating huge interest.
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Hugo you're stuck with Josh for the long haul.
Shefter made a good point on NFLN. You're paying Shanahan still and Mc D is signed for many years, also.
No way you pay three coaches at one time.
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Hugo your stuck with Josh for the long haul.
Shefter made a good point on NFLN. You're paying Shanahan still and Mc D is signed for many years, also.
No way you pay three coaches at one time.
What the fuck was up with Shanahan benching Mcnabb with 2 minutes to go :o ???
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What the fuck was up with Shanahan benching Mcnabb with 2 minutes to go :o ???
haha, should have benched him after the Bears game....McNabb is playing horribly right now but the Skins winning is hiding it.
But I do think once you start him, let him finish it. He's earned that over his career.
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Hugo you're stuck with Josh for the long haul.
Shefter made a good point on NFLN. You're paying Shanahan still and Mc D is signed for many years, also.
No way you pay three coaches at one time.
yea, I picked that point up last week on the broncos forum... It's a good point. I mean bowlen could do it, but no fucking way he will. We are stuck with boy genius for a bit... ::)
we are paying less to Shanahan now that he's signed, but I guess he still gets some money.
After this year, that leaves 2 years on Josh's contract. Shanahan will have one year left at a lower rate now that he's with Washington.
I can only hope... Hope this assclown starts doing something before he gets canned after years of misery....
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What the fuck was up with Shanahan benching Mcnabb with 2 minutes to go :o ???
That was odd. The stupid part was his changing story. I'm a big fan of Shanahan, but he kinda lost it there. I'm sure he's going to be a great coach for them but we're not hearing the whole story here and it's not reflecting well on Mike.
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Hugo you're stuck with Josh for the long haul.
Shefter made a good point on NFLN. You're paying Shanahan still and Mc D is signed for many years, also.
No way you pay three coaches at one time.
BYE BYE WONDERBOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!