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I'll start with this one - Discuss
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Dorian Yates by a country mile
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Dorian Yates by a country mile
Hulkster will not approve
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Hulkster will not approve
Hulkster is busy lining up his 4 sharpened pics of the 99 Olympia for tomorrow's use while fighting off his hard-on
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Low-ass lats. Kai Green seems to have inherited some of the same genes.
(http://s.mcstatic.com/thumb/3482599/0/4/directors_cut/0/1/mr_olympia_2009_kai_greene.jpg)
I would say Dorian or Ronnie have better backs than both, but for sheer lowness and cobra-hoodness the two guys above can't be beat can they?
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Hulkster is busy lining up his 4 sharpened pics of the 99 Olympia for tomorrow's use while fighting off his hard-on
LMAO ;D
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Low-ass lats. Kai Green seems to have inherited some of the same genes.
(http://s.mcstatic.com/thumb/3482599/0/4/directors_cut/0/1/mr_olympia_2009_kai_greene.jpg)
I would say Dorian or Ronnie have better backs than both, but for sheer lowness and cobra-hoodness the two guys above can't be beat can they?
Correct the full low lats from the waist there are many huge backs but full from bottom to top is rare...
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70s: franco (his RLS was great but i am not sure about his RDB)..
80s: samir and haney (i prefer samir's)..
90s: dorian (best ever also)..
00s: ronnie..
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So who are the top five Backs in IFBB History?
Columbo
Yates
Kai
Ronnie
Cutler
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simply the best
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simply the best
There is a little room for improvement there ;D
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;)
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So who are the top five Backs in IFBB History?
Columbo
Yates
Kai
Ronnie
Cutler
yates
ronnie/benaziza (i forgot him in my 1st post)
samir
haney
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everyone forgets about this guy. IMO bets Yates with ease.
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/sfpro/atwood_5285.jpg)
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Art Atwood, Jean Pierre Fux and Mike Francois deserve a mention too.
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everyone forgets about this guy. IMO bets Yates with ease.
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/sfpro/atwood_5285.jpg)
:-\ :-\ :-\ :-X :-\ :-\ :-\ = you dont know a shit about this game!
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Joel Stubbs has to be on the list
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everyone forgets about this guy. IMO bets Yates with ease.
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/sfpro/atwood_5285.jpg)
Who is that Swede?
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Art Atwood, Jean Pierre Fux and Mike Francois deserve a mention too.
seems that you were going to add nasser but forgot, right?
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yates
ronnie/benaziza (i forgot him in my 1st post)
samir
haney
Sheriff why not Columbo? I also noticed Nasser wasnt on your list. I forgot about Benaziza good call
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Art Atwood, Jean Pierre Fux and Mike Francois deserve a mention too.
Damn good call I forgot those guys, you have quite a memory there kiwiol
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Art Atwood, Jean Pierre Fux and Mike Francois deserve a mention too.
fux had one of the best RLS but was not at the same level in the RDB..
francois back was very good but not to be mentioned as one of the best ever..
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Who is that Swede?
Art Atwood
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:-\ :-\ :-\ :-X :-\ :-\ :-\ = you dont know a shit about this game!
oh brother, another muslim know it all, how great
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Art Atwood
That fucker was huge what happened to him where is he now?
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everyone forgets about this guy. IMO bets Yates with ease.
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/sfpro/atwood_5285.jpg)
maybe the widest pro ever.
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maybe the widest pro ever.
The freakiest bdb ever, coleman arms are better etc, but seriously art looks more freaky there.
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The freakiest bdb ever, coleman arms are better etc, but seriously art looks more freaky there.
You got anymore shots like lat spread ?
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Sheriff why not Columbo? I also noticed Nasser wasnt on your list. I forgot about Benaziza good call
columbo's back was very thick and he was definitely one of the best in the RLS but i am not sure about his RDB, never saw a decent pics. of him doing that pose, do you have one?..
nasser's back if of course out of the competition, we are here comparing normal guy and not gifts from GOD ;D
benaziza's back in 1992 was the same level as dorian's if not better.. but dorian's back in 93 and 95 is the best ever IMO..
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You got anymore shots like lat spread ?
his lats are better in that pose though
(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/53/images/Art_Atwood_9.jpg)
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The freakiest bdb ever, coleman arms are better etc, but seriously art looks more freaky there.
aint no Swede for sure.
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oh brother, another muslim know it all, how great
no i dont but seeing art's back better than dorian's and (with ease) is rally pure assholness ::).. dorian's was better in shape and thickness (with ease)..
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not i dont but seeing art's back better than dorian's and (with ease) is rally pure assholness ::).. dorian's was better in shape and thickness (with ease)..
Not in the BDB pose.. No one beats that photo, and size/thickness/freakyness
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his lats are better in that pose though
(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/53/images/Art_Atwood_9.jpg)
Damn that is unreal
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Not in the BDB pose.. No one beats that photo, and size/thickness/freakyness
art's back was only wider than dorian's, other than that dorian's was better..
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seems that you were going to add nasser but forgot, right?
Hahaha if we were talking calves or abs, then yes. But not for the back.
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Damn that is unreal
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marcus too was great in this pose!.. same width as art..
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art's back was only wider than dorian's, other than that dorian's was better..
better width, more thickness, better "depth" ETC ;D
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Hahaha if we were talking calves or abs, then yes. But not for the back.
shoulders too man, nasser's were from the best ever!!..
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shoulders too man, nasser's were from the best ever!!..
and of course chest, his chest was the best in the 90s!!..
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and of course chest, his chest was the best in the 90s!!..
Sheriff lets keep on track here we are talking back only ;D
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Sheriff lets keep on track here we are talking back only ;D
sorry man i just cant control myself when it comes to nasser :-*
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if you want to just mention bbs with great backs (but not the greatest) i can add aron baker and chris cormier (insane details at his best)..
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if you want to just mention bbs with great backs (but not the greatest) i can add aron baker and chris cormier (insane details at his best)..
Damn Sheriff another good call...whats your top 5 all time?
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Damn Sheriff another good call...whats your top 5 all time?
dorian, ronnie, benaziza, bannout, & haney.. for your sake i will add franco ;D
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dorian, ronnie, benaziza, bannout, & haney.. for your sake i will add franco ;D
I dont agree with Bannout we need pics to judge
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if you want to just mention bbs with great backs (but not the greatest) i can add aron baker and chris cormier (insane details at his best)..
And Joel Stubbs
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holy fuck didn't know Art had such fantastic back development
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(http://www.hugenasser.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/nasserOffice.jpg)
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(http://www.hugenasser.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/nasserOffice.jpg)
Nasser wouldnt be in this list I have already spoke to Sherif about this
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holy shit!
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_LJ40Zfo0Mfw/ScHOTp0DivI/AAAAAAAAO7w/Ykmribc5AzI/s400/JP+Fux.jpg)
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And Joel Stubbs
We need pics to justify
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damn Mars thats a little awkwardly placed we talking men in thongs n all...
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holy shit!
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_LJ40Zfo0Mfw/ScHOTp0DivI/AAAAAAAAO7w/Ykmribc5AzI/s400/JP+Fux.jpg)
Who is that?
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jp fux
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Good one yes he did have a very very thick back for sure
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;)kyomu will like this one
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his lats are better in that pose though
(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/53/images/Art_Atwood_9.jpg)
Art paid with his hair for that back.
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yes who wants to be big but be bald.
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Mike had a spectacular back, thick as if he trained his back powerlifting style.
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Francais trap muscle is unbelievable.
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;)kyomu will like this one
I have never seen this shot. Not that bad for him.
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yes who wants to be big but be bald.
better than being a tiny tit and bald for sure! ;D
baldness is all genetics and of course drugs speed the process.
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Mike had a spectacular back, thick as if he trained his back powerlifting style.
He probably did alot of deadlifting didnt he do powerlifting once? Deadlifts will add thickness
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He probably did alot of deadlifting didnt he do powerlifting once? Deadlifts will add thickness
yes as i recall he did some powerlifting before.
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JP fux held the deadlift record in his country of origin
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I have never seen this shot. Not that bad for him.
Show it to him maybe he hasnt seen it either ;)
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I dont agree with Bannout we need pics to judge
what do you think??
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what do you think??
that was the benchmark before the great Dorian Yates
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JP fux held the deadlift record in his country of origin
So it seems deadlifting is a key to back development most all the best backs have been deadlifting at one time or another Franco Columbo did them regularly am I wrong here?
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JP fux held the deadlift record in his country of origin
how much did he pull?
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what do you think??
I'll say decent Sherif, he wont beat Yates in the back but it was was a different time
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mohamed benaziza's back was from the very best ever!
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mohamed benaziza's back was from the very best ever!
Agreed one of the best we forgot he is no longer with us.
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I'll say decent Sherif, he wont beat Yates in the back but it was was a different time
sure as i said before yates had the best back ever.. and yes you have to put in mind the time difference!.. for example i believe if ronnie appeared in the 80s his back was going to be maximum as haney's if not lesser!
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Agreed one of the best we forgot he is no longer with us.
in 1992 he was the only guy to gave yates a run for his money from the rear!..
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Dorian taped pictures of Benazizas back to his fridge so he could look at it each day after he got beat in the 1990 NOC.
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in 1992 he was the only guy to gave yates a run for his money from the rear!..
Nice shot for sure what did he die of I cant remember?
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that was the benchmark before the great Dorian Yates
why no one talks about dorian's relation with his x wife and why have they left each other the same way a lot talk about nasser and his x wife?? :-X
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Dorian taped pictures of Benazizas back to his fridge so he could look at it each day after he got beat in the 1990 NOC.
don't forget at the cable crossover too
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why no one talks about dorian's relation with his x wife and why have they left each other the same way a lot talk about nasser and his x wife?? :-X
What was the reason?
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Dorian taped pictures of Benazizas back to his fridge so he could look at it each day after he got beat in the 1990 NOC.
yes the same way sly was doing in his rocky's movies ;D
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Nice shot for sure what did he die of I cant remember?
diuretics dehydrated him in 92!!..
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diuretics dehydrated him in 92!!..
nope he was using potassium sparing diuretics and the doctor administered even more potassium leading to his untimely death
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nope he was using potassium sparing diuretics and the doctor administered even more potassium leading to his untimely death
did his family charge the doc.??..
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there is a rumor that the doc. was dorian's friend and he gave momo more potassium to get rid of him because till that moment momo was the only guy with a great back beside dorian!!.. :-X
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there is a rumor that the doc. was dorian's friend and he gave momo more potassium to get rid of him because till that moment momo was the only guy with a great back beside dorian!!.. :-X
haha Doz wouldn't do that...
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haha Doz wouldn't do that...
sure ;D
it was just a silly joke..
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end of thread :o 8)
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Dorian probably has the best lat spread but Haney's was awesome also. The best back double Bicep could go to Ronnie. Flex Wheeler had an awesome back double due to the incredible detail throughout his back.
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end of thread :o 8)
You know what bothered me about Ronnie, his posing. He'd come out to some BS Boys 2 Men twinkle toe music and try to hit these pretty poses and looked retarded. With that physique he should've been posing to dramatic, powerful music, not doing some pathetic version of the splits to some boy band love song.
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end of thread :o 8)
What about this ? Where is ND?
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What about this ? Where is ND?
Yup, Dorian owned the lat spread
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You know what bothered me about Ronnie, his posing. He'd come out to some BS Boys 2 Men twinkle toe music and try to hit these pretty poses and looked retarded. With that physique he should've been posing to dramatic, powerful music, not doing some pathetic version of the splits to some boy band love song.
X2
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What about this ? Where is ND?
thats the morphed version. dorian has lots of morphed pics on the web.
his fans needed to do that because of all the comparisons to Ronnie..he needed an edge :-*.
here are two more morphed dorian shots that people try and pass off as real:
morphed dorian pics are everywhere :-\:
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;)Where does this rate?
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thats the morphed version. dorian has lots of morphed pics on the web.
his fans needed to do that because of all the comparisons to Ronnie..he needed an edge :-*.
here are two more morphed dorian shots that people try and pass off as real:
morphed dorian pics are everywhere :-\:
So they are photoshopped?
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So they are photoshopped?
yes. the back shot you posted, and the two shots I posted are. I got them from a dorian pic page..
eg. the morphed back shot and the original unmorphed shot (used in an ironage comparison):
the morphed back lat spread is so common its tough to find the original unmorphed shot anymore..
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Arnie's left forearm looks twinkish there ???
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(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/sfpro/atwood_5285.jpg)
all quarter rep rack deadlifts
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not best but underrated
Mike Francois
and surprisingly
Aaron Baker
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not best but underrated
Mike Francois
and surprisingly
Aaron Baker
Got any pics of Aaron?
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Here's pic of Aaron impressive
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Got any pics of Aaron?
i once saw a pic of him in flex where his back blew me away....it looked better than flex's back in detail...
however...his calves were suspect...even Dan duchaine once said so in MM2k
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i once saw a pic of him in flex where his back blew me away....it looked better than flex's back in detail...
however...his calves were suspect...even Dan duchaine once said so in MM2k
His calves look pretty decent in that pic
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His calves look pretty decent in that pic
yeah except...Dans comment ws..."they look the same whether flexed or relaxed" :-\
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So who are the top five Backs in IFBB History?
Columbo
Yates
Kai
Ronnie
Cutler
Cutler, bwahahaha. No Christmas tree no list-mass tree!
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yates
coleman
haney
bannout
columbo
lance dreher
jorma raty
roy callender
aaron baker
joel stubbs
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yates
coleman
haney
bannout
columbo
lance dreher
jorma raty
roy callender
aaron baker
joel stubbs
Damn Lance Dreher I forgot him any pics?
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raty
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dreher
bad shots but even from the front both backs appear huge
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perhaps not the best but a great shot anyway
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perhaps not the best but a great shot anyway
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Nice old school pic
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mohamed benaziza's back was from the very best ever!
And he was only 5'2"-5'3" and was a mere 188-198 pounds...
Another man worth mentioning was a 1993 Flex Wheeler.
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And he was only 5'2"-5'3" and was a mere 188-198 pounds...
Another man worth mentioning was a 1993 Flex Wheeler.
Lets see I wouldnt have Flex as a top 5 Got any flex 1993 pics?
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holy fuck didn't know Art had such fantastic back development
Are you shitting me, for such a big ass back he lacks a lot of detail. He was a big dude with a big frame, but Atwood had one of the ugliest physiques, not to mention one of, if not the widest waists. In fact if you take a look at that rear double bi and lat spread, his large waist detracts from it. Now, Francois, that was dude who had a wide ass and detailed back. By the 1997 Arnold he was truly coming into his own. Cormier had a very detailed but so-so width, due to a neck injury. Paul Dillett had more width when he stood relaxed than when he tried to do a lat spread, wierd. Joel stubbs hands down beats all the guys I just mentioned, he makes art Atwood back look like a narrow slab of flat concrete. Stubbs, Dorian, Ronnie, Cormier, Ray, Wheeler all had very highly detailed backs, that look like Rand McNally maps, what Shawn Ray had coined, "Snakes of Detail"
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Are you shitting me, for such a big ass back he lacks a lot of detail. He was a big dude with a big frame, but Atwood had one of the ugliest physiques, not to mention one of, if not the widest waists. In fact if you take a look at that rear double bi and lat spread, his large waist detracts from it. Now, Francois, that was dude who had a wide ass and detailed back. By the 1997 Arnold he was truly coming into his own. Cormier had a very detailed but so-so width, due to a neck injury. Paul Dillett had more width when he stood relaxed than when he tried to do a lat spread, wierd. Joel stubbs hands down beats all the guys I just mentioned, he makes art Atwood back look like a narrow slab of flat concrete. Stubbs, Dorian, Ronnie, Cormier, Ray, Wheeler all had very highly detailed backs, that look like Rand McNally maps, what Shawn Ray had coined, "Snakes of Detail"
Does anyone have a pic of Stubbs or did I miss it?
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Does anyone have a pic of Stubbs or did I miss it?
Google him. Can't post with iPhone. There is his infamous Flex Magazine shot...
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Google him. Can't post with iPhone. There is his infamous Flex Magazine shot...
Didnt Milos train him this year?
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Robby Robinson had a great back as well.
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Robby Robinson had a great back as well.
Damn right I forgot about him he was cool got any pics? Hulkster who is top 5 or did you post it before and I missed it?
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(http://ironage.us/yabbse/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=19665.0;id=36074;image)
(http://ironage.us/yabbse/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=19665.0;id=36136;image)
(http://ironage.us/yabbse/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=19665.0;id=36850;image)
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Tough to beat Dorian from the back.
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Two old school guys that never get mentioned when it comes to back development are Mighty Mike Quinn (lat width), and Ray McNeil (back thickness).
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:o
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Incredible back
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Here are a few
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:o
Fucking incredible Yates shots right there
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Two old school guys that never get mentioned when it comes to back development are Mighty Mike Quinn (lat width), and Ray McNeil (back thickness).
Ah Mike Quinn the bad boy forgot about him and yes Ray was murdered I think correct?
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Damn right I forgot about him he was cool got any pics? Hulkster who is top 5 or did you post it before and I missed it?
not too many good robby pics on the web. he has them all taken down when he can. bb.com had pics up, but were removed at his request.
my top 5 are (in order):
1. Ronnie (who else - no one can match him here)
2. dorian yates (best christmass tree ever)
3. Lee Haney (amazing lats, thickness)
4. Momo
5. Robby
Arnold had an amazing rear double bi, but lacked the thickness of these guys. same with Flex. and Shawn.
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not too many good robby pics on the web. he has them all taken down when he can. bb.com had pics up, but were removed at his request.
my top 5 are (in order):
1. Ronnie (who else - no one can match him here)
2. dorian yates (best christmass tree ever)
3. Lee Haney (amazing lats, thickness)
4. Momo
5. Robby
Arnold had an amazing rear double bi, but lacked the thickness of these guys. same with Flex. and Shawn.
Not bad Yates had the better back though.
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:o
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is that baker?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=302422.0;attach=344073;image)
didn;t notice his back.
crazy detail like Flex's
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is that baker?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=302422.0;attach=344073;image)
didn;t notice his back.
crazy detail like Flex's
yes baker right there
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not too bad sheriff what year was that?
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Ah Mike Quinn the bad boy forgot about him and yes Ray was murdered I think correct?
yeah Ray was murdered in 1995.
Levrone's band fulblown wrote a song about it called "Sally"
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My favourite shot of Robbys back.
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The one thing i`ve never seen on anyones back but Robbys is the little diamond shape in the middle of his spine.
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My favourite shot of Robbys back.
Damn fine shot right there I totally forgot about Robby until someone brought him up
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GAME OVER !!!
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GAME OVER !!!
Fuck where did you get that pic I dont even recall Hulkster posting that one
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like I said, Ronnie had the best back 8)
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like I said, Ronnie had the best back 8)
Where is is ND he hasnt posted in awhile?
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Fuck where did you get that pic I dont even recall Hulkster posting that one
In this months FLEX magazine. That's the most complete back double bicep I've ever seen. Even Ronnie's calves look good there. It's either from 98, 99 or 01
Too bad the scanner is old. The pic would be in greater quality in a new scanner.
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(http://www.bigroncoleman.com/photos/comp001.jpg)
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In this months FLEX magazine. That's the most complete back double bicep I've ever seen. Even Ronnie's calves look good there. It's either from 98, 99 or 01
Too bad the scanner is old. The pic would be in greater quality in a new scanner.
Nice find so who is your top 5 all time?
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(http://www.bigroncoleman.com/photos/comp001.jpg)
Who is on the right? pretty wide dude
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In this months FLEX magazine. That's the most complete back double bicep I've ever seen. Even Ronnie's calves look good there. It's either from 98, 99 or 01
Too bad the scanner is old. The pic would be in greater quality in a new scanner.
its probably from one of the 99 gp shows.
in 98, ronnie's glutes and hams were not quite that cut yet.
in 99 and onwards, they were (no homo -just an observation)
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Who is on the right? pretty wide dude
Looks like Fux
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its probably from one of the 99 gp shows.
in 98, ronnie's glutes and hams were not quite that cut yet.
in 99 and onwards, they were (no homo -just an observation)
Ronnie's calves are lacking in that photo I think they were better later..ND may disagree
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ronnie's calves were always lacking.
but that back is insane.
reminds me of the 2001 AC shot:
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ronnie's calves were always lacking.
but that back is insane.
reminds me of the 2001 AC shot:
Damn hard to beat that do you think he will comeback? He is looking leaner lately not so much the fat shit guest posing as he was doing
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I never knew Aaron Baker had such a good back. What is he up to these days?
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No one mentioned Orville Burke............some of the biggest/widest lats ever seen!!
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No one mentioned Orville Burke............some of the biggest/widest lats ever seen!!
yup. one of the widest ever, right up there if not wider than ronnie or dorian.
his problem was that he also had some of the highest lats ever.
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yup. one of the widest ever, right up there if not wider than ronnie or dorian.
his problem was that he also had some of the highest lats ever.
I never really understood why people critized guys with high lats. Personally I think high lats look better. They make your waist look even smaller. Granted your lower back ends up not being as impressive but overall I'd rather have slightly higher lats imo.
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Nice find so who is your top 5 all time?
My top 3 would be:
1) Coleman
2) Yates
3) Haney
4 and 5 could go to many other guys
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Ronnie and Dorian definitely had the two best backs imo....total freaks!
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In 2004 Ronnie's rear relaxed was one of the best rear relaxed pose of all-time. Even though it wasn't one of his best years. It looked amazing. Same goes for yates 97
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In 2004 Ronnie's rear relaxed was one of the best rear relaxed pose of all-time. Even though it wasn't one of his best years. It looked amazing. Same goes for yates 97
Yep...unbelievable back development on both of them. No one is even close in today's lineups (Dexter wins the 09 back relaxed imo) :-[
(That top pic of RC in 04 is ridiculous btw)
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:o
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I never knew Aaron Baker had such a good back. What is he up to these days?
He has a website out there i think...
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My top 3 would be:
1) Coleman
2) Yates
3) Haney
4 and 5 could go to many other guys
You would Ronnie over Yates? Some nice shots there of Ronnie but I disagree Yates was wider I think with as much detail...
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=302422.0;attach=344254;image)
nassers look pathetic, as always
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=302422.0;attach=344254;image)
nassers look pathetic, as always
Yes Nasser wouldnt make top 15...
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everyone forgets about this guy. IMO bets Yates with ease.
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/sfpro/atwood_5285.jpg)
Loaded with Synthol, His right deltoid has four heads , WTF!
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Loaded with Synthol, His right deltoid has four heads , WTF!
Damn huge you are right the right delt looks totally diffferent from the left
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arnie's back is most underrated , cause his chest and biceps grab all attention ... !!
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more arnie back photos