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everfucking body wants to talk about "helping the little guy" and taxing the rich >:(
what the fuck ever happened to working your ass of and also being rich? instead of constantly whining about other peoples success....
whats next...the kid who gets 100% in school will have to hand 20% of his grade over to the dumbfuck that got 40% can pass? >:(
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I agree with you, I think some appreciation is due to the people that employ millions, and keep things rolling smoothly.
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have your taxes gone up ???
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have your taxes gone up ???
no but come in about a year i will be in the bracket where i'll have to pay a disproportionately higher sum...
Legalized govt sanctioned pan handling is all it amounts to...
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everfucking body wants to talk about "helping the little guy" and taxing the rich >:(
what the fuck ever happened to working your ass of and also being rich? instead of constantly whining about other peoples success....
whats next...the kid who gets 100% in school will have to hand 20% of his grade over to the dumbfuck that got 40% can pass? >:(
I actually agree with you on this. I don't understand why everyone who is rich is an apparent scumbag or a piece of shit. Most of these people busted their ass to make their money and are more than deserving of it. I chalk it up to the fact that this country gets lazier by the day and everyone wants to be rich but doesn't want to put the work in to get there.
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I hate rich people.
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I hate rich people.
Yes, poor people are much better at life.
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no
oh, ok. shut the fuck up then paco
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oh, ok. shut the fuck up then paco
lemme take a stab at this...
you happen to be a minority :-\
Obama getting elected now seems to mean that the beggars are begging with a newfound confidence :-\
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busted :-[
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busted :-[
well...thought so....
see what i mean folks...whine whine whine....rich people r bad....
give us free food, education and $ while we shit on your neighborhoods
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Yes, poor people are much better at life.
i don't know any. tell us about it?
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rich people = BF's avatar ;D
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rich people = BF's avatar ;D
Haha, good job deleting my post, you broke coward. Great movie, though.
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well...thought so....
see what i mean folks...whine whine whine....rich people r bad....
give us free food, education and $ while we shit on your neighborhoods
just out of curiosity, do you live alone or...?
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just out of curiosity, do you live alone or...?
ya need a lesson in phrasing your questions in a less creepy manner :-\
anyhow...right now..pretty happy with the folks...no chance of moving till around march...then i'll prolly be someplace in Nothern Va with my girl..
wanna visit or something?
PS i already give to charity if you r hinting at that :-\
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I hate rich people.
Any particular reason why?
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Any particular reason why?
He's friends with 240, so he must be lying. ;D
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ya need a lesson in phrasing your questions in a less creepy manner :-\
anyhow...right now..pretty happy with the folks...no chance of moving till around march...then i'll prolly be someplace in Nothern Va with my girl..
wanna visit or something?
PS i already give to charity if you r hinting at that :-\
playing mr. capatalist in mommys basement :-\
only in america :)
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playing mr. capatalist in mommys basement :-\
only in america :)
i saw that coming a MILE away :-\
Not paying capitalist...just saving up so i can move comfortably...unlike yourself i HATE begging for money from strangers ...
I'd rather ask family ;)
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you reak of insecurity, man.
lets just say for arguments sake i do actually live off of the state.
im not the one throwing stones at other LEECHERS.
does that help?
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you reak of insecurity, man.
lets just say for arguments sake i do actually live off of the state.
im not the one throwing stones at other LEECHERS.
does that help?
REALLY....i pay my taxes...i live at home so i save on rent..that way i can save and buy my own place...and i have worked hard and soon am gonna be in the tax bracket that Obama plans on inflicting on me as a reward for my hard work so that leeches like you can have health care :-\
oooo i'm insecure ::) you came into this thread from the word go being defensive ;)
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it's the super rich I hate. I'm not talking about someone with a few hundred thousand or million. billionares, I can't stand. People who are born into vast wealth and act like they're better than everyone by birthright, I can't stand those fuckers and have no respect for them.
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I also hate celebs acting like royalty.
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REALLY....i pay my taxes...i live at home so i save on rent..that way i can save and buy my own place...and i have worked hard and soon am gonna be in the tax bracket that Obama plans on inflicting on me as a reward for my hard work so that leeches like you can have health care :-\
oooo i'm insecure ::) you came into this thread from the word go being defensive ;)
Hard work is only one part of the equation. Smart work and politics are just as important. I've lost track of the number of people where I work who endlessly cry that they're not moving up. In general, they're the same ones who I hear saying, "Yeah, I told the boss how it really is!!" and they are usually not contributing anything or trying to better themselves.
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it's the super rich I hate. I'm not talking about someone with a few hundred thousand or million. billionares, I can't stand. People who are born into vast wealth and act like they're better than everyone by birthright, I can't stand those fuckers and have no respect for them.
you must hate the shit out of adonis then ;D
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it's the super rich I hate. I'm not talking about someone with a few hundred thousand or million. billionares, I can't stand. People who are born into vast wealth and act like they're better than everyone by birthright, I can't stand those fuckers and have no respect for them.
So it's more a behavioral issue? Are you OK with someone like Bill Gates who is in the process of donating the vast majority of his earnings. From the media in general, he seems to be a pretty decent guy. Of course, I don't work with him...
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I also hate celebs acting like royalty.
susan sarandon for example
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it's the super rich I hate. I'm not talking about someone with a few hundred thousand or million. billionares, I can't stand. People who are born into vast wealth and act like they're better than everyone by birthright, I can't stand those fuckers and have no respect for them.
why? they did absolutely NOTHING to harm you and at somepoint along their family line...SOMEONE worked hard...and made good financial decisions
i lived a comfy life at home for YEARS without any work......cause my dad worked HIS ass off when he ws young...what if i work my ass off till i'm 70 now...i dont want my kids to work...i want it easy for them...
if someones great grampaw ws poor , then his grandpaw ws poor and then his dad ws poor and then he is poor...conclusion...that person comes from a long line of fuckups :-\ i'm thinking genetically stupid
if you must hate some rich people...fine....hate the people that win the lottery...and hate idiots like rappers and those jon and kate idiots that get paid big $
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Hard work is only one part of the equation. Smart work and politics are just as important.
of course it is.....if you think you can go to work looking like a slob or being the quite guy and getting a promotion JUST on your smarts..you r mistaken...
but i'm in a technical world...politix plays a softer role here in my world...i can get away with putting on a pair of jeans and going to teach a corporate class if on the subject matter
1) i'm absolutely brilliant at the subject matter
2) i'm halfway decent entertaining in class
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you must hate the shit out of adonis then ;D
you already know I do. That guy is delusional. I really think he just makes up his own reality as he goes.
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susan sarandon for example
really? Sarandon acts like royalty? I always saw her acting pretty down to earth in public. A lot of celebs get a serious chip on their shoulders and act like they're better than everyone just because they act in movies, oh brother. I'm not talking about having an opinion in public, I don't have a problem with them doing that. Maybe I'm wrong but I haven't got the royal attitude from Sarandon.
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why? they did absolutely NOTHING to harm you and at somepoint along their family line...SOMEONE worked hard...and made good financial decisions
i lived a comfy life at home for YEARS without any work......cause my dad worked HIS ass off when he ws young...what if i work my ass off till i'm 70 now...i dont want my kids to work...i want it easy for them...
if someones great grampaw ws poor , then his grandpaw ws poor and then his dad ws poor and then he is poor...conclusion...that person comes from a long line of fuckups :-\ i'm thinking genetically stupid
if you must hate some rich people...fine....hate the people that win the lottery...and hate idiots like rappers and those jon and kate idiots that get paid big $
On the contrary there toxic, these people often have no problem increasing their riches at the expense of others. They often have no morality or ethics in what they do. And you might just write it off to that just being the nature of business but it doesn't mean I have to like it or that they don't do anything to harm people because that's just bullshit. They'll hurt people without even blinking or giving it a second thought.
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On the contrary there toxic, these people often have no problem increasing their riches at the expense of others. They often have no morality or ethics in what they do. And you might just write it off to that just being the nature of business but it doesn't mean I have to like it or that they don't do anything to harm people because that's just bullshit. They'll hurt people without even blinking or giving it a second thought.
the number of folks u describe can be counted in the thousands....
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the number of folks u describe can be counted in the thousands....
yea, so?
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They take more than they need/deserve and make the rest of us work just that little harder just to tread water where we are.
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There is a saying. "The first gen builds the wealth, the second gen consolidates the wealth, and the third gen spends it". That my friends is what is happening now. What I don't like is how the rich act like they are above the law. That they don't have to abide by the laws like everyone else. Or even schooling. Were ever you go in this world there are two people who control everything, and they usually go hand in hand. That is the Rich and the Educated. Do you think everybody at the Ivy League schools got there because of good grades? Do you think Bush or Kerry got to Yale because they were best damn students?
I agree that many rich people have worked hard, but many have worked hard at brown-nosing, and when it shows, it shows hard.
Today's America is not built on hard work, the majority of Americans are slackers, whiners and our society is nothing more than a enabling society. From the Courts o down. You don't speak English, well here pick a language, w have to learn it so that WE can communicate with you. You have a drug problem? Well, we will put you on a drug to substitute the drug that you are addicted to.
Your man beats you and you go back, well, it's not Your fault if he hits you again. Are you a man, and your girlfriend hits you? well, you deserved it, just sit there and take it.
Are you a black male who is good at sports? Well we will tracked through all the good sports programs, nevermind schooling for your mind, and if you fuck up, it's not our fault, we'll just find another black buck ($ for colleges) to take your place.
Slackers and Ho's, Pimps and Users, that is what America boils down to. If you are not a slacker then you are Ho. If you are not a Pimp, then you are a User.
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everfucking body wants to talk about "helping the little guy" and taxing the rich >:(
what the fuck ever happened to working your ass of and also being rich? instead of constantly whining about other peoples success....
whats next...the kid who gets 100% in school will have to hand 20% of his grade over to the dumbfuck that got 40% can pass? >:(
We have become a slothful, lazy, envious, and wasteful population.
The lazy dont want to do shit, and want to point the finger at everyone with more than themselves and elect people they think are going to play Robin Hood. Because in their demented views it is the "moral" thing to do, they have no problem being honest about it.
Now dont get me wrong, I loathe the wall street banksters and Brooks Brothers gang. To me, those are the scum of the earth and probably should be blown up.
However, for anyone to begrudge another person of trying to become wealthy off of developing a service or product that is in demand or adds value to another persons business or life to me is just a stupid POS.
Without a potential incentive to recoup your investment, why would anyone ever pay a lot of money to go $$$, invest their savings in a new business, etc?
And what is rich? I am in NYC and someone making 500K in salary is not rich. After taxes, that is about 5k a week. Add in a mortgage, car, tuition etc, and that person is very well off, but not rich.
Finally, people who make a lot in salary are not rich. most doctors and lawyers are not rich, but make good salaries. However, uninformed dolts think these professionals are rich when these people make 250k a year in salary. Do those who point the finger ever stop to think that these people carry more in school loans or did not work for 4 or 7 years while pursuing that degree? Tally that up and most professionals start out 250k in the hole before they even start working.
People able to live off of the interest of their investments are wealthy. There is a huge difference and people should not confuse the two.
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On the contrary there toxic, these people often have no problem increasing their riches at the expense of others. They often have no morality or ethics in what they do. And you might just write it off to that just being the nature of business but it doesn't mean I have to like it or that they don't do anything to harm people because that's just bullshit. They'll hurt people without even blinking or giving it a second thought.
With your sentiments I fully expect you to back up my statements about George Soros and what he did to the British Pound.
The main problem I see with these criminal banksters is that they are gambling with our money and asking the taxpayer to cover their bad bets.
If they gamble their own fortune and make out, fine.
Dylan Ratigan was on the radio last night as they gave him a show in NYC on Sunday nights and he detailed the fraud that Goldman and others pulled off with the CDO and CDS insurance instruments and I almost wanted to puke.
Thats called origanized crime, not getting rich.
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yea, so?
well ya cant go around disliking a rich people cause a few thousand are bad while millions of em got there thru hard work :-\
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They take more than they need/deserve and make the rest of us work just that little harder just to tread water where we are.
deserve?? hmmm... so the CEO of your company should give you more than you deserve just cause you need more?
keep whining about need and deserve.....i'm gonna work my ass off toget my share of the pie!
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That they don't have to abide by the laws like everyone else. Or even schooling. Were ever you go in this world there are two people who control everything, and they usually go hand in hand. That is the Rich and the Educated. Do you think everybody at the Ivy League schools got there because of good grades? Do you think Bush or Kerry got to Yale because they were best damn students?
i agree...but REMEMBER..bush and kerry are a minority at ivy league schools..i mean NOT everyone that lives in a ghetto is a criminal right?
I agree that many rich people have worked hard, but many have worked hard at brown-nosing, and when it shows, it shows hard.
most rich people (ie people making over a quartrer mil / yr) have worked hard period and ok so they brown nosed also...its called adapting to your environment to get ahead(darwanism) ....i'm sure they also have their pride but they set it aside for the sake of their families
From the Courts o down. You don't speak English, well here pick a language, w have to learn it so that WE can communicate with you. You have a drug problem? Well, we will put you on a drug to substitute the drug that you are addicted to.
totally agree....its the same..bowing down to the lowest deniminator
Are you a black male who is good at sports? Well we will tracked through all the good sports programs, nevermind schooling for your mind, and if you fuck up, it's not our fault, we'll just find another black buck ($ for colleges) to take your place.
hey ..NOONE told said black guy to take easy classes and choose sociology ( ::)) as a major....he's got his free chance..USE IT....that argument is like blaming white people for slavery and NOT ONE WORD gets said about the black africans that sold slaves.... :-\ i dont see anyone travelling to africa to ask for reparations from the grandkids of slave traders
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deserve?? hmmm... so the CEO of your company should give you more than you deserve just cause you need more?
keep whining about need and deserve.....i'm gonna work my ass off toget my share of the pie!
Liberalism is a severe mental disorder.
Some idiot shows up with no skills, marginal abilities, poor work ethic, shows up drunk, has no equity at stake if the business fails and wants to complain what the owner makes?
I swear, everyone should start a business at some point in their life just so they can learn basic economics and and how business works.
you would see support for liberal economics fade away within months.
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i agree...but REMEMBER..bush and kerry are a minority at ivy league schools..i mean NOT everyone that lives in a ghetto is a criminal right?most rich people (ie people making over a quartrer mil / yr) have worked hard period and ok so they brown nosed also...its called adapting to your environment to get ahead(darwanism) ....i'm sure they also have their pride but they set it aside for the sake of their families totally agree....its the same..bowing down to the lowest deniminator hey ..NOONE told said black guy to take easy classes and choose sociology ( ::)) as a major....he's got his free chance..USE IT....that argument is like blaming white people for slavery and NOT ONE WORD gets said about the black africans that sold slaves.... :-\ i dont see anyone travelling to africa to ask for reparations from the grandkids of slave traders
250k in salary in a lot of cities is not rich. Its middle class in Manhattan.
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250k in salary in a lot of cities is not rich. Its middle class in Manhattan.
i used to have friends in NYC....most made 150k/yr and when i saw their living conditions...i considered them poor...
i'd never live in NYC
but a 250k salary in NYC is also easy to come by......
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i used to have friends in NYC....most made 150k/yr and when i saw their living conditions...i considered them poor...
i'd never live in NYC
but a 250k salary in NYC is also easy to come by......
That is why I laugh at left wingers and their utter foolishness and child-like mentality on most economic issues. THEY ARE FREAKING CLUELESS.
In manhattan, someone making 250k a year takes home about half. Is 125k a year rich when a studio apartment goes for $1,750 a month and a two or three bedroom goes for 3000 a month?
Additionally, someone at that salary level is working day and night.
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That is why I laugh at left wingers and their utter foolishness and child-like mentality on most economic issues. THEY ARE FREAKING CLUELESS.
In manhattan, someone making 250k a year takes home about half. Is 125k a year rich when a studio apartment goes for $1,750 a month and a two or three bedroom goes for 3000 a month?
Additionally, someone at that salary level is working day and night.
Another thing, it amazes me how teachers, firemen, cops, govt workers, complain when on an hourly basis, and counting the value of the pensions they get, they earn more on an hourly basis than almost anyone else.
At least in NY that is how it is.
I have friends who are cops who make 175k a year, and can retire after 20 years with a pension at 50% of their last years' salary, plus health benefits, FOR LIFE!
If I had to do everything over again, I would have become a NYFD fireman and gone to law school at night, and do what I do on the side. By 42 y/o I could collect a pension of about 80k a year for life plus full benes and still have my business going.
But lets attack private entrpreneurs and those evil people who make 250k a year.
Whats hysterical to me is that under the liberal mentality, people who earn 249k a year are not rich, but someone who makes 250k a year is rich. They make no distinction as to where the person lives and the cost of living and tax rates in the place where the person works.
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They take more than they need/deserve and make the rest of us work just that little harder just to tread water where we are.
How do they do this ???
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How do they do this ???
I say the same thing to anyone and everyone who complains about their pay, employment, etc:
IF YOU DONT LIKE YOUR JOB - LEAVE IT AND START YOUR OWN BUSINESS AND PAY YOURSELF WHAT YOU THINK YOU ARE WORTH!
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I have no problems with people who are creating jobs and products being rich, they deserve it for creating something and/or creating employment for others. People must understand if we crucify these folks with extreme taxation, we will negatively affect the overall economy of the country.
On the other hand, people like bankers and athletes who make millions aren't helping create jobs or products for others so I have less admiration for them.
People who start businesses, work hard, and take major risks should be rewarded. (and shouldn't have sky high corporate or personal tax rates).
This administration has particularly demonized wealthy people and private business. How simple it would be to reduce the corporate tax rate so businesses can spend and hire more...but they refuse.
What they don't get is that many of those wealthy people drive the economy and jobs through business. Take them out and the gov steps in...then the overall GDP and production of the country goes down and there are less overall jobs.
No one making under 1 million/year should pay more than 25% taxes IMO. We must force the gov to spend less. Even if you make $100,000 per year, with total taxation (all taxes), you're probably giving close to 40% to the local, city and state governments. How the hell is that acceptible?!
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No one making under 1 million/year should pay more than 25% taxes IMO. We must force the gov to spend less. Even if you make $100,000 per year, with total taxation (all taxes), you're probably giving close to 40% to the local, city and state governments. How the hell is that acceptible?!
dead on! DONT punish people for hard work
watch your doctors office turn into the DMV (MVA or the registery if u r in Boston :-\) if the public health option passes...
WHY?? WHY should i pay for someone elses health care?
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dead on! DONT punish people for hard work
watch your doctors office turn into the DMV (MVA or the registery if u r in Boston :-\) if the public health option passes...
WHY?? WHY should i pay for someone elses health care?
I swear, these leftists need to be quarantined with their sick hatred for business. They are like a spreading cancer that infects everything and destroys the healthy in favor of the sick.
People need incentives, not empty promises of free stuff from others.
Its in every area of life.
Why does a so so looking guy take a risk and ask out the hot chick way above his level????
Because the potential reward is that much better than he is used to.
The same thing applies to people who take risks in starting businesses. If you take away the reward, that guy will sit around and never try to improve himself.
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I swear, these leftists need to be quarantined with their sick hatred for business. They are like a spreading cancer that infects everything and destroys the healthy in favor of the sick.
People need incentives, not empty promises of free stuff from others.
Its in every area of life.
ya wanna improve this country....start at the bottom....
make high school tough again....no more special treatment of the minorities to get into college..no more quota filling...DOES NOT MAKE SENCE....get in on your own merit or fuck off..
i'm a minority..i got into univ of Maryland NOT cause i'm a minority...i got in cause when ya put my back up against the wall... i'm willing to work my ass off...yanno why? cause i know a 1000 other pakistani and indian kids that r willing to work harder...i dont want a hand out..its beneath me..
what the fucks wrong with other minorities? (sans the Japanese...you never hear about them complaining about the "war relocation camps of 1942....
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ya wanna improve this country....start at the bottom....
make high school tough again....no more special treatment of the minorities to get into college..no more quota filling...DOES NOT MAKE SENCE....get in on your own merit or fuck off..
i'm a minority..i got into univ of Maryland NOT cause i'm a minority...i got in cause when ya put my back up against the wall... i'm willing to work my ass off...yanno why? cause i know a 1000 other pakistani and indian kids that r willing to work harder...i dont want a hand out..its beneath me..
what the fucks wrong with other minorities? (sans the Japanese...you never hear about them complaining about the "war relocation camps of 1942....
I have korean neighbors and a few korean grocers near me. Those people are the salt of the earth. They bust their ass, are pleasant, are nice, are good business people, and never complain.
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Look this country has turned into "it's not your fault" culture, there has to be someone else to blame for your station in life. What happened to personal responsibility?
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(Above) Just a couple small examples of why we absolutely need to rid this country of Affirmative Action in 2010.
If we kill private industry, we kill what made this country great. Let those who work hard and create for others prosper. Government must stop spending.
I just got an email saying that Ohio is going to increase state tax retroactively. All levels of government, stop f-cking spending! We don't want your waste and stop taking so much of our hard earned $.
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(Above) Just a couple small examples of why we absolutely need to rid this country of Affirmative Action in 2010.
If we kill private industry, we kill what made this country great. Let those who work hard and create for others prosper. Government must stop spending.
I just got an email saying that Ohio is going to increase state tax retroactively. All levels of government, top f-cking spending! We don't want your waste.
Afirmative action is bullshit , what does it tell minorities? Well you don't have to be as good or as smart you just have to be a certain color.
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I watched a good film this weekend, called the great debaters. Had Denzel Washington and Forrest Whitaker. Great movie about the struggles of black academics in the 1930s. The lessons of those people were that they could force change and rise up through hard work, respect, education, (and organized non-violent civil disobedience). It's almost as if all the hard work that these black pioneers have worked for are being pissed on by dysfunctional minority habits these days. Entitlements, Affirmative action, quotas, special benefits...that's not what these people wanted, they wanted the opportunity for equality to prove they were just as good (or better) than others. Damn these liberals, their methods don't work in changing people's ethics and habits.
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I watched a good film this weekend, called the great debaters. Had Denzel Washington and Forrest Whitaker. Great movie about the struggles of black academics in the 1930s. The lessons of those people were that they could force change and rise up through hard work, respect, education, (and organized non-violent civil disobedience). It's almost as if all the hard work that these black pioneers have worked for are being pissed on by dysfunctional minority habits these days. Entitlements, Affirmative action, quotas, special benefits...that's not what these people wanted, they wanted the opportunity for equality to prove they were just as good (or better) than others. Damn these liberals, their methods don't work in changing people's ethics and habits.
ANYTHING i say as a responce agreeing to this will be misconstrued as racist by the majority American black and mexican crowd :-\
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I watched a good film this weekend, called the great debaters. Had Denzel Washington and Forrest Whitaker. Great movie about the struggles of black academics in the 1930s. The lessons of those people were that they could force change and rise up through hard work, respect, education, (and organized non-violent civil disobedience). It's almost as if all the hard work that these black pioneers have worked for are being pissed on by dysfunctional minority habits these days. Entitlements, Affirmative action, quotas, special benefits...that's not what these people wanted, they wanted the opportunity for equality to prove they were just as good (or better) than others. Damn these liberals, their methods don't work in changing people's ethics and habits.
Very sad indeed, destroy the work ethic of people by promoting dependance on the government, all to secure a voting block.
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Very sad indeed, destroy the work ethic of people by promoting dependance on the government, all to secure a voting block.
Its all about votes. Why would anyone vote for Democrats if they did not them for social welfare programs?
Granted there are a few guilty whites who vote Dem regardless, but at least you would not have a 95% voting bloc every single time.
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Toxic, I hear ya...but there some are minorities that would understand with that kind of explanation. That's also why we should back minority conservatives when appropriate.
We have to stop unequal treatment of different minorities, ie...asians, vs hispanic, vs black vs middle eastern vs mixed race, etc. Preferential treatment needs to stop in a melting pot like the U.S.
I'm not Catholic but talk about a segment of people who are declining in #s and who are discriminated against these days...Catholics of European heritage. Churches closing left & right, old neighborhoods taken over, publicly bashed by the left and their ability to practice their customs in public taken away.
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Toxic, I hear ya...but there some are minorities that would understand with that kind of explanation. That's also why we should back minority conservatives when appropriate.
We have to stop unequal treatment of different minorities, ie...asians, vs hispanic, vs black vs middle eastern vs mixed race, etc. Preferential treatment needs to stop in a melting pot like the U.S.
I'm not Catholic but talk about a segment of people who are declining in #s and who are discriminated against these days...Catholics of European heritage. Churches closing left & right, old neighborhoods taken over, publicly bashed by the left and their ability to practice their customs in public taken away.
i totally understand....but when ws the last time ya saw a brownie or a chinese or a japanese throw the race flag in someones face to get what they want?
Ps i'm a brownie
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i totally understand....but when ws the last time ya saw a brownie or a chinese or a japanese throw the race flag in someones face to get what they want?
Ps i'm a brownie
They dont have to because they spend their formative years in school, busting their ass, and being disciplined to study, etc. This is regardless of wealth. Its a cultural thing.
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everfucking body wants to talk about "helping the little guy" and taxing the rich >:(
what the fuck ever happened to working your ass of and also being rich? instead of constantly whining about other peoples success....
whats next...the kid who gets 100% in school will have to hand 20% of his grade over to the dumbfuck that got 40% can pass? >:(
Most people are willing to work their asses off. Problem is some people lost their jobs because the companies did not have enough work going around. And now the rich are making more money. That is why people are upset. If they had jobs and at least the chance of making it they would not complain. The REAL unemployment rate is now 20% in USA. That is 1 out of 5 people out of a job or not full time employed!
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Most people are willing to work their asses off. Problem is some people lost their jobs because the companies did not have enough work going around. And now the rich are making more money.
how can you say the rich are making more $ when they did not have enough work to go around?
besides...my company...my rules
thing is ...high school is FREE in America...FREE....thats unheard of out side of this little bubble we live in...
if you fuck up...its SOLEY falls on you
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how can you say the rich are making more $ when they did not have enough work to go around?
besides...my company...my rules
thing is ...high school is FREE in America...FREE....thats unheard of out side of this little bubble we live in...
if you fuck up...its SOLEY falls on you
My advice to everyone is to find something you love to do and go in your own business and set your own rules.
Its true freedom. Granted you have stress and angst, but its far better than working foer someone else.
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Look this country has turned into "it's not your fault" culture,
Relacore agrees!
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True toxic, a lot of it is cultural maladaption.
We aren't seeing jobs yet because the government stimulus didn't go to small and medium sized businesses who employ the vast majority of people in this country.
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i totally understand....but when ws the last time ya saw a brownie or a chinese or a japanese throw the race flag in someones face to get what they want?
Ps i'm a brownie
Well they're too busy working hard at their jobs, in school and elsewhere. Further people don't tend to make fun of people who work very hard, keep their mouths shut and do their job. Maybe American's aren't racist, they just don't like lazy people stealing their tax dollars. This is a great friggen thread.
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how can you say the rich are making more $ when they did not have enough work to go around?
besides...my company...my rules
thing is ...high school is FREE in America...FREE....thats unheard of out side of this little bubble we live in...
if you fuck up...its SOLEY falls on you
I graduated in South Africa in 1990. High School was free for us back then. Not sure if that is the case now.
By rich I don't mean most small business owners. We are talking about the top 1%. The top 1% have 95% of the wealth. The top 1% are people with an AGI (adjusted gross income) of roughly $500,000 or greater. Are you in the top 1%? People with that kind of wealth can generate more wealth via the stock market real estate (if they buy smart), financing etc.
Also note that not everyone can be their own boss. So why can an employee not bust their ass and also make a good living at the same time? It sounds to me like you are saying the only guy that should make a good living when he busts his ass is the boss. What about the employee??
In the early part of the 20th century there was a middle class in America. And America was a better place. Now 95% of the wealth is in the hands of 1% of the population. Do you see a problem with that or not? It is fine if you want to strive to be part of the 1%. Nobody is holding you back. But at the end of your life, do you want to say you were part of the top 1% or that you were part of a movement to bring wealth and prosperity to a greater percentage of the population?
I am not advocating getting rid of the wealthy. We need a strong middle class again. And no, that does not mean they all own their own company.
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If u want a viable middle class u have allow for a viable industrial base. People can't make a living on service industry jobs. Our rich class provides jobs but they will go elsewhere if we don't allow them to produce or expand their businesses.
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Well they're too busy working hard at their jobs, in school and elsewhere. Further people don't tend to make fun of people who work very hard, keep their mouths shut and do their job. Maybe American's aren't racist, they just don't like lazy people stealing their tax dollars. This is a great friggen thread.
last time i got called a terrorist...i genuinely laughed...
kinda threw the guy off....if the best someone can do is call me names...meh.
for fucks sake my own girlfriend tells me i got a primate brow and am not fully evolved...i find it funny...i even do the munkey walk for her in her room ;D
(one of my exs used to call me her little terrorist <shrug>...again ..thought it ws funny except i ws always concerned for her when she would start saying that out loud at bars)
gawd forbid someone said that to a black dood :-\
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By rich I don't mean most small business owners. We are talking about the top 1%.
my opinion...but its a waste of time to hate 1% of the total population :-\
In the early part of the 20th century there was a middle class in America. And America was a better place. Now 95% of the wealth is in the hands of 1% of the population.
a lot of the mindless jobs that were done by people are now done by machines..for example...self checkout at grocery stores...times r changing...dont blame the upper classes for it
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well ya cant go around disliking a rich people cause a few thousand are bad while millions of em got there thru hard work :-\
WHAT?
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great.... thats what happens when you r talking to your girl and typing at the same time >:(
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great.... thats what happens when you r talking to your girl and typing at the same time >:(
huh? I'm happy to answer your question, I just don't get what you're trying to say/ask...
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I was just reading Forbes... something like 40 or 45% of their top 400 (worth 950 mil or more) are self-made. Another 40% inherited. The remainer are a combination.
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At a certain point, what's the purpose of pursuing more wealth? Is it a competition among the ultra rich? I remember Ted Turner(teds is delicious) saying that it was a game to see where everyone placed on the forbes list.
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if i was a billionaire, i would be living on a desert island with 40 hot girls and a whole lot of merlot. Live off the interest and leave all the money to Sarah palin 2012 campaign.
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I don't see our government helping the middle class. I see them helping the poor, themselves, unions, certain minorities, and wall street. The real middle class is struggling (I guess I would roughly define that as individuals who make $35,000-$250,000).
Again, if wealthy people are creating wealth and jobs for others, then we should be thrilled to have them. The economic pie is not static, despite what some liberals preach.
Many jobs have moved out of this country because the cost of doing business here is too high. I absolutely agreed with Obama when he originally talked about tax credits for companies who keep jobs here. Did any of that happen? When we most needed it this year? Another good sound bite that didn't materialize.
Much of the manufacturing jobs are outsourced to India, China and areas with lower taxes and lower overhead costs. It's our own fault we forced jobs out of this country.
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too many people want a hand out and in todays society they know that it will happen if they make enough claims of racism or sexism or not liking the gays or any lil excuse nowa days will get you paid, heaven forbit working , and look what happens to us that work
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too many people want a hand out and in todays society they know that it will happen if they make enough claims of racism or sexism or not liking the gays or any lil excuse nowa days will get you paid, heaven forbit working , and look what happens to us that work
bingo mate!
or maybe my brown ass should stop working hard...blame all my problems on 911 and ask the govt to help me out...including making it easier for me to get into schools ...etc
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bingo mate!
or maybe my brown ass should stop working hard...blame all my problems on 911 and ask the govt to help me out...including making it easier for me to get into schools ...etc
So why work for the cisco cert so hard? Why not diversify a bit?