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Title: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: Marty Champions on October 20, 2009, 04:42:35 PM
i still think it is after time (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=302828.0;attach=344301;image)

but he doesnt even look like hes flexing his arm, it just looks purley fucking ripped  :o :o :o

levrone looks to be having second thoughts about the G4P in this shot , hes probably thinking about one of the jonneys of his time, like a jonney clauw f. vandam
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: Alex23 on October 20, 2009, 04:43:55 PM
i still think it is after time (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=302828.0;attach=344301;image)

but he doesnt even look like hes flexing his arm, it just looks purley fucking ripped  :o :o :o

Yes, simply insert schmoe approved stuffing in Banana hammock until desired bulge results.
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: Marty Champions on October 20, 2009, 04:47:09 PM
Yes, simply insert schmoe approved stuffing in Banana hammock until desired bulge results.
:o :o
levrone is second guessing the banana by the look of stressed that overcumed on him as the picture was snapped revealing his hidden falcon advisarys admirations

in the back of the purley ripped prime levrone he had glimpses of true falcon stardom
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: Alex23 on October 20, 2009, 04:47:54 PM
:o :o
levrone is second guessing the banana by the look of stressed that overcumed on him as the picture was snapped revealing his hidden falcon advisarys admirations

in the back of the purley ripped prime levrone he had glimpses of true falcon stardom

;D
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: Captain Equipoise on October 20, 2009, 04:51:37 PM
N O   F U C K I N G  W A Y.....  he looks better then MOST pro`s...
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: Marty Champions on October 20, 2009, 04:52:42 PM
N O   F U C K I N G  W A Y.....  he looks better then MOST pro`s...


that is the better
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: Wiggs on October 20, 2009, 05:40:05 PM
Reminds of a natural I knew.  Miles Stovall.  Dude looked great.  Lifetime natural.
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: io856 on October 20, 2009, 05:41:29 PM
whats not natural about hgh, insulin, testosterone, T3/T4 etc. etc.  :D
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: Method101 on October 20, 2009, 05:44:35 PM
Natural limit for average genetics here

(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=301578&d=1147046283)(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2007/layne8.jpg)
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: io856 on October 20, 2009, 05:46:27 PM
Natural limit for average genetics here

(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=301578&d=1147046283)(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2007/layne8.jpg)
crazy back development!
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: Method101 on October 20, 2009, 05:46:51 PM
Looks better without the  Tan etc.
io856, Layne deadlifts over 600lbs raw no straps, let's see your back picture.  ::)

(http://www.biolayne.com/Bio%20Layne%20Web%20Gallery/Albums/Album1/Large/MM_1.jpg)(http://www.biolayne.com/Bio%20Layne%20Web%20Gallery/Albums/Album1/Large/rls_2.jpg)
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: Alex23 on October 20, 2009, 05:47:14 PM
Natural limit for average genetics here

(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=301578&d=1147046283)(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2007/layne8.jpg)

Average? Makes "True Adonis" look like turkey bones with some meat left on. are you saying he's below average?
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: io856 on October 20, 2009, 05:48:20 PM
whats his off season weight?
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: Method101 on October 20, 2009, 05:49:38 PM
whats his off season weight?
226 according to bodybuilding.com
So in-contest hes probably 190-200.
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: io856 on October 20, 2009, 05:50:28 PM
Looks better without the  Tan etc.
io856, Layne deadlifts over 600lbs raw no straps, let's see your back picture.  ::)

(http://www.biolayne.com/Bio%20Layne%20Web%20Gallery/Albums/Album1/Large/MM_1.jpg)(http://www.biolayne.com/Bio%20Layne%20Web%20Gallery/Albums/Album1/Large/rls_2.jpg)


errrr I said crazy back development....  ::) as in no sarcasm
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: io856 on October 20, 2009, 05:52:58 PM
I wonder what would happen if he took that extreme dedication and applied an extreme cycle for a year or so

cause he literally is like at his peak...
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: Method101 on October 20, 2009, 05:53:42 PM
I wonder what would happen if he took that extreme dedication and applied an extreme cycle for a year or so

cause he literally is like at his peak...
could turn into the next dave palumbo/kovacs lol... or Levrone , depends on how he responds to gear.
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: io856 on October 20, 2009, 05:54:46 PM
could turn into the next dave palumbo/kovacs... or Levrone , depends on how he responds to gear.
by the looks of his massive ribcage/torso he would def develop a nice hgh/slin belly
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: Adam11 on October 20, 2009, 06:04:26 PM
Average? Makes "True Adonis" look like turkey bones with some meat left on. are you saying he's below average?


 ;D
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: Alex23 on October 20, 2009, 06:51:44 PM

 ;D

We can't all be blessed genetics freaks like us little brother....

GaspeMostWantedSpeed ;D

Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: younggunz on October 20, 2009, 07:50:00 PM
ya i would say he's def the poster boy, for the typical framed and  a lil above average genetic's person. looks good though.
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: just_a_pilgrim on October 20, 2009, 08:20:48 PM
i still think it is after time (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=302828.0;attach=344301;image)

but he doesnt even look like hes flexing his arm, it just looks purley fucking ripped  :o :o :o

levrone looks to be having second thoughts about the G4P in this shot , hes probably thinking about one of the jonneys of his time, like a jonney clauw f. vandam

In an old gym there was a guy who's upper body was that lean and had good size who i knew was a natural, he had been at it over 10 years.

But never trained his legs so IMO that is where he held onto more fat so his upper body could get that lean, also with no legs his upper body looked bigger than it actually was in proportion.

Layne looks good there, but no thickness, offseason he hardly looks like he's even lifted. That's the problem with never juicing it does make a massive difference.
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: jtsunami on October 20, 2009, 08:29:33 PM
i still think it is after time (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=302828.0;attach=344301;image)

but he doesnt even look like hes flexing his arm, it just looks purley fucking ripped  :o :o :o

levrone looks to be having second thoughts about the G4P in this shot , hes probably thinking about one of the jonneys of his time, like a jonney clauw f. vandam

no not after time, most serious juicers never reach that body he has displayed in the picture you posted, delusion post my brother.

jt
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: TRIX on October 20, 2009, 08:49:09 PM
John cena. Is an attainable physique imo. He is 250 But he is 6'1 also
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: io856 on October 20, 2009, 08:54:22 PM
John cena. Is an attainable physique imo. He is 250 But he is 6'1 also
You have much to learn
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: jtsunami on October 20, 2009, 09:01:31 PM
John cena. Is an attainable physique imo. He is 250 But he is 6'1 also

he do know he use to BB and take all the drugs under the sun, and is still on the sauce and prolly gh too.
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: io856 on October 20, 2009, 09:18:33 PM
he do know he use to BB and take all the drugs under the sun, and is still on the sauce and prolly gh too.

haha iirc his mum was saying on WWE confidential(some reality TV program they had going) about all the gear he was using obsessively in his teens
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: Genius on October 20, 2009, 09:46:59 PM
Even if Layne Norton would use gear we wouldn't know how he would look like..

I have a friend who looks like SHIT without gear in his system..fat..slobby...

I actually have the discpline and will look like (off gear) something like this: "Shit! There is the big f u c k i n g   dude! He isn't at his best but still big enough to impress me."

Everything has to do with how YOUR OWN BODY reacts when you're on juice and without juice..
When we both hit our cycles the result isn't even near in comperence - he/my friend DEMOLISHES my physique in a blink of an eye.

He can step on stage because his genetics are superior to mine when it comes to "response to AAS".
In my eyes he should be on a stage instead of taking other drugs like alcohol and valium, opiates when on cycle.. even if he do the partydrugs he kills our physiques anyway..

All about genetics = response to drugs = BB:ing

There is no rule, which will say how good you would look like even if you have great physique BEFORE you turned to the DARK SIDE - then we will know.
Dark Side = cheater = no more empathy or excuses..

You either respond well or not - your endocrine system doesn't give shit after that, too late.. next is:
"Which AAS/peptides should I take to get bigger?".

Nothing more, nothing less than the TRUTH about our so called "beauty contest" (sport).
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: gh15 on October 20, 2009, 11:16:40 PM
both norton and cena were on hormoens are on hormones and forever will remain on hormones,,

you dont understand what true natural is,,,true natural = 9% 180LB 5'10,, anything more is hormonized,,period 

7 pound per inch for male 5 for female,, layne norton naturlaly woudnt be able ot see anything over 200lb at 8-9% ,,

end of discussion

ofcourse cena is on mega doses as in inject evry day or higher volumne 3 times a week bu then gh every day so its all come to every day inject


gh15 approved
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: dustin on October 20, 2009, 11:20:09 PM
Are you guys absolutely fucking retarded or what??? :-X

Hormonized to the gills, no question about it. You won't look anything like that without boatloads of drugs. Those pipes are about to burst!!
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: Mars on October 20, 2009, 11:53:33 PM
adonis is how a good natural probably looks like, and he looked like a grasshopper when he was ripped.
layne even looks "full" in contest condition. thats something unpossible for the real natural. he may be natural in the gym but in competitions no way.
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: Parker on October 21, 2009, 12:05:17 AM
This would probably be the ideal natty everyday workout physique.
http://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic_id=486a5c31d3590&date=2008-07-01%2012:32:51&id=753156&pid=7366516&the_count=58&group_id=&ua= (http://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic_id=486a5c31d3590&date=2008-07-01%2012:32:51&id=753156&pid=7366516&the_count=58&group_id=&ua=)
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: Mars on October 21, 2009, 12:07:33 AM
This would probably be the ideal natty everyday workout physique.
http://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic_id=486a5c31d3590&date=2008-07-01%2012:32:51&id=753156&pid=7366516&the_count=58&group_id=&ua= (http://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic_id=486a5c31d3590&date=2008-07-01%2012:32:51&id=753156&pid=7366516&the_count=58&group_id=&ua=)

good genetics though.
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: Alex23 on October 21, 2009, 12:29:58 AM
Even if Layne Norton would use gear we wouldn't know how he would look like..

I have a friend who looks like SHIT without gear in his system..fat..slobby...

I actually have the discpline and will look like (off gear) something like this: "Shit! There is the big f u c k i n g   dude! He isn't at his best but still big enough to impress me."

Everything has to do with how YOUR OWN BODY reacts when you're on juice and without juice..
When we both hit our cycles the result isn't even near in comperence - he/my friend DEMOLISHES my physique in a blink of an eye.

He can step on stage because his genetics are superior to mine when it comes to "response to AAS".
In my eyes he should be on a stage instead of taking other drugs like alcohol and valium, opiates when on cycle.. even if he do the partydrugs he kills our physiques anyway..

All about genetics = response to drugs = BB:ing

There is no rule, which will say how good you would look like even if you have great physique BEFORE you turned to the DARK SIDE - then we will know.
Dark Side = cheater = no more empathy or excuses..

You either respond well or not - your endocrine system doesn't give shit after that, too late.. next is:
"Which AAS/peptides should I take to get bigger?".

Nothing more, nothing less than the TRUTH about our so called "beauty contest" (sport).

LOL... we need to talk to Ron and change your name from "genius" to "dumb fuck" pronto. I bet you're 170lb wet and still "getting a ride" to "band camp"

You read twisted memed idiocies on here and regurgiate it like an unchewed shit chunk "response to drugs".. it's a fucking myth dip shit; EVERY MULTICELLULAR ORGANISM RESPONDS TO HORMONES AT THE SAME LEVEL.

... then it's all about structure and cell concentration... "reponds"... FFS...


fuck sake from where all these cock twirlers are popping from....
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: io856 on October 21, 2009, 12:34:42 AM
LOL... we need to talk to Ron and change your name from "genius" to "dumb fuck" pronto. I bet you're 170lb wet and still "getting a ride" to "band camp"

You read twisted memed idiocies on here and regurgiate it like an unchewed shit chunk "response to drugs".. it's a fucking myth dip shit; EVERY MULTICELLULAR ORGANISM RESPONDS TO HORMONES AT THE SAME LEVEL.

... then it's all about structure and cell concentration... "reponds"... FFS...


fuck sake from where all these cock twirlers are popping from....
x2
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: Alex23 on October 21, 2009, 12:39:50 AM
x2

I bet "genius" sees a "large guy" in public, chases him down then taps on his shoulder, and go like "Excuse me big sir, you actually have the discpline and look like (off gear) like a  big f u c k i n g   dude! you aren't at your best but still big enough to impress me."

"May I present to you? My mucuses are ready" <bends over>
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: Parker on October 21, 2009, 01:19:54 AM
I bet "genius" sees a "large guy" in public, chases him down then taps on his shoulder, and go like "Excuse me big sir, you actually have the discpline and look like (off gear) like a  big f u c k i n g   dude! you aren't at your best but still big enough to impress me."

"May I present to you? My mucuses are ready" <bends over>


You forgot the "Can I feel your arms?" Gets them everytime.
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: Method101 on October 21, 2009, 01:25:30 AM
LOL... we need to talk to Ron and change your name from "genius" to "dumb fuck" pronto. I bet you're 170lb wet and still "getting a ride" to "band camp"

You read twisted memed idiocies on here and regurgiate it like an unchewed shit chunk "response to drugs".. it's a fucking myth dip shit; EVERY MULTICELLULAR ORGANISM RESPONDS TO HORMONES AT THE SAME LEVEL.

... then it's all about structure and cell concentration... "reponds"... FFS...


fuck sake from where all these cock twirlers are popping from....

Alex even Dave Palumbo said that different people respond to hormones at different levels, he calls Levrone a Hyper-Responder and then look at Romano and "Billy Guns" who both have taken high dosages and still looked like swimmers.
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: Alex23 on October 21, 2009, 01:27:19 AM
Alex even Dave Palumbo said that different people respond to hormones at different levels, he calls Levrone a Hyper-Responder and then look at Romano and "Billy Guns" who both have taken high dosages and still looked like swimmers.

Call it any way you want chief, there's no degree of "response" just "cells" present or not and being told what to do.

Donkey is never gonna be a race horse, "response or not" brother...

both "guys" later mentioned in your post are barely donkeys...

Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: Parker on October 21, 2009, 01:39:07 AM
Call it any way you want chief, there's no degree of "response" just "cells" present or not and being told what to do.

Donkey is never gonna be a race horse, "response or not" brother...

both "guys" later mentioned in your post are barely donkeys...

Jackasses?
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: kyomu on October 21, 2009, 02:20:13 AM
Natural limit for average genetics here

(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=301578&d=1147046283)(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2007/layne8.jpg)
Well, Hopefuly, i can surpass this in the next spring.
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: Mars on October 21, 2009, 02:25:40 AM
Well, Hopefuly, i can surpass this in the next spring.

you think you can still grow much naturally Kyomu?

at least i want to keep the illusion i still can improve and gain size otherwise my motivation to go to the gym is totally lost. truly.
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: kyomu on October 21, 2009, 02:31:40 AM
you think you can still grow much naturally Kyomu?

at least i want to keep the illusion i still can improve and gain size otherwise my motivation to go to the gym is totally lost. truly.
Yes, much more. Gaining mass is not problem.
The problem for nattys is getting hard granny looks.
I have huge confidence to be more than 90kg with fully visible abs in next year around.
But, the contest condition is another story.
Because, in the off season, i am bigger and leaner than my fellow competitors.
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: Emmortal on October 21, 2009, 02:32:58 AM
adonis is how a good natural probably looks like, and he looked like a grasshopper when he was ripped.
layne even looks "full" in contest condition. thats something unpossible for the real natural. he may be natural in the gym but in competitions no way.

Adonis is not nor ever has been natural.
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: big L dawg on October 21, 2009, 03:07:58 AM
nope...never...
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on October 21, 2009, 03:11:05 AM
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Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: dave19 on October 21, 2009, 03:18:37 AM
Yes, much more. Gaining mass is not problem.
The problem for nattys is getting hard granny looks.
I have huge confidence to be more than 90kg with fully visible abs in next year around.
But, the contest condition is another story.
Because, in the off season, i am bigger and leaner than my fellow competitors.

Strange that you see it the other way around.
To me getting ripped natural was never a problem and I know a couple of competitors who think the same.
I've seen quite a few very hard naturals - some of them even harder than I've ever seen a juicer look. But they were all very small , didn't look like bodybuilders at all.

Getting big without juice at least to me is impossible .. it's hard enough when "on" ;)

Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: MAXX on October 21, 2009, 03:22:45 AM
John cena. Is an attainable physique imo. He is 250 But he is 6'1 also
lmfao

are you 15 and just picked up a bb mag?
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: kyomu on October 21, 2009, 04:15:34 AM
Strange that you see it the other way around.
To me getting ripped natural was never a problem and I know a couple of competitors who think the same.
I've seen quite a few very hard naturals - some of them even harder than I've ever seen a juicer look. But they were all very small , didn't look like bodybuilders at all.

Getting big without juice at least to me is impossible .. it's hard enough when "on" ;)


Again Ripped and granny hard is different.
Its like Jay and Dorian or Paco.
Jay is more close to natural quality in spite of their fat level is similar.
This time, i have confidence to be ripped. But granny hard, No.
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: dave19 on October 21, 2009, 04:42:33 AM
Again Ripped and granny hard is different.
Its like Jay and Dorian or Paco.
Jay is more close to natural quality in spite of their fat level is similar.
This time, i have confidence to be ripped. But granny hard, No.


I think the difference between for example Jay and Paco is mostly due to Jay holding more water/fat than Paco. And Jay would need more vascularity in order to achieve that "grainy" look .. but the genes play a big role in that.

There are only a couple of factors which determine how hard/ripped/grainy you look.

Bodyfat
Water
amount of muscle
amount of blood vessels

So I think it's possible for a natural to look just as hard/grainy as a juicer if all of the factors above are in check. Ok except for the vascularity .. naturals just usually don't get huge veins everywhere.



Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: Figo on October 21, 2009, 04:44:39 AM
John cena. Is an attainable physique imo. He is 250 But he is 6'1 also


Please tell me you're joking...
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: The_Hammer on October 21, 2009, 04:51:56 AM
Yes, much more. Gaining mass is not problem.
The problem for nattys is getting hard granny looks.
I have huge confidence to be more than 90kg with fully visible abs in next year around.
But, the contest condition is another story.
Because, in the off season, i am bigger and leaner than my fellow competitors.

It'll be especially hard for you to obtain that look naturally.  Asian's usually have thicker skin than blacks or whites.
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: Meso_z on October 21, 2009, 05:13:56 AM
nobody in this thread is natural.

everyone in this thread uses or has used or denies and lies about his use.

only Mars is natural imo.
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: d0nny2600 on October 21, 2009, 05:25:17 AM
nobody in this thread is natural.

everyone in this thread uses or has used or denies and lies about his use.

only Mars is natural imo.
Mars is the only 350lb man with abs in this thread. And he is natural.   ;D

Layne is not natural  ::)
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: Method101 on October 21, 2009, 05:37:39 AM
Anyone think this guy is natural?




Seems borderline juicer to me, so much for the WWE drug testing, also look at Batista and Triple H  ::)
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: Mars on October 21, 2009, 06:45:21 AM
yes i am one of the bigger guys here but that doesnt mean i dont have respect for the other folks here, im always helpfull and polite when people approach me.
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: jaejonna on October 21, 2009, 08:27:59 AM
yes i am one of the bigger guys here but that doesnt mean i dont have respect for the other folks here, im always helpfull and polite when people approach me.
Always a good person to those in need
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: kyomu on October 21, 2009, 09:49:36 AM
It'll be especially hard for you to obtain that look naturally.  Asian's usually have thicker skin than blacks or whites.
agreed. But just i do what i can. :)
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: Mars on October 21, 2009, 09:53:48 AM
Always a good person to those in need

people who dont know me tend to think im an asshole but once spoken to me they change their opinion as snow in the sun.
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: kyomu on October 21, 2009, 09:57:24 AM
I think the difference between for example Jay and Paco is mostly due to Jay holding more water/fat than Paco. And Jay would need more vascularity in order to achieve that "grainy" look .. but the genes play a big role in that.

There are only a couple of factors which determine how hard/ripped/grainy you look.

Bodyfat
Water
amount of muscle
amount of blood vessels

So I think it's possible for a natural to look just as hard/grainy as a juicer if all of the factors above are in check. Ok except for the vascularity .. naturals just usually don't get huge veins everywhere.

Partialy agreed. But, I believe that this blood vessel part is important to look grany hard. And that will be produced by chemical normaly.
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: Mars on October 21, 2009, 10:09:53 AM
partially for kyomu.

Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: T.F.B on October 21, 2009, 11:23:27 AM
a gallery of natural lifters...

http://www.superphysique.org/musculation/musculation_galerie
Title: Re: damn is it possible for a natural to look like this
Post by: jtsunami on October 21, 2009, 02:35:32 PM
both norton and cena were on hormoens are on hormones and forever will remain on hormones,,

you dont understand what true natural is,,,true natural = 9% 180LB 5'10,, anything more is hormonized,,period 

7 pound per inch for male 5 for female,, layne norton naturlaly woudnt be able ot see anything over 200lb at 8-9% ,,

end of discussion

ofcourse cena is on mega doses as in inject evry day or higher volumne 3 times a week bu then gh every day so its all come to every day inject


gh15 approved

truth spoken