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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Sherief Shalaby on October 22, 2009, 04:17:45 AM
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when both were 23 :o
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Once again, Yates wins. ;)
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Yates said he was a fan of Casey Viator, Mike Mentzer, ect...
Who inspired Nasser? I don't think I ever heard him discuss that
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Yates said he was a fan of Casey Viator, Mike Mentzer, ect...
Who inspired Nasser? I don't think I ever heard him discuss that
no he discussed it in his interviews with robinson, check part 1 if you have time.. anyway he said that there was not a certain one he wanted to look like or who inspired him to be like him..
by the way yates was ironically inspired by bruce lee too ;D
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by the way yates was ironically inspired by bruce lee too ;D
That's why Yates is so deadly. Recognize!!
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hereunder in the wizard's own words:
[ Q ]. You seem quite critical of Arnold’s physique. Were you ever a fan of his, like so many bodybuilders were, when you were starting out?
Honestly, and not to be arrogant and not to sound degrading, but definitely when I started training I looked at pictures of him and also of other bodybuilders.
I am a pretty analytical person whether it comes to the world and what is going on politically and so on and when it comes to bodybuilders body-parts. Bodybuilders have to realize that they can have very good body parts but it takes all the body-parts to be good together to make a balanced physique.
He (Arnold) was never a person I wanted to look like or to be like. He was definitely somebody who has made fantastic achievements but at the same time, I went to University for many years and am not just reduced to bodybuilding, so there are also other people I admire who are mentally well developed and have achieved in other areas such as the arts, for example. So my perspective when I started lifting weights was not just bodybuilding. I remember Shawn Ray once saying that when he first touched a dumbbell he knew where his destiny would lie and he knew he would be a pro bodybuilder. When I touched a dumbbell for the first time I didn’t like it at all, so people are different when they start out and different at the end.
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but i believe in a diff. part in the interview he mentioned that benaziza was the bb who impressed his the most!..
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One guy went on to win multiple Mr. Olympias the other relies on a very small, demented fanbase to purchase his soiled underwear so he can eat.
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He (Arnold) was never a person I wanted to look like or to be like. He was definitely somebody who has made fantastic achievements but at the same time, I went to University for many years and am not just reduced to bodybuilding....
He's wrong there. Bodybuilding was / is a huge part of Arnie's life, but it was just a means to an end. He had the same impact in Hollywood and now politics.
There are meatheads who know little outside eating every 3 hours and lifting heavy, but Arnold is the exact opposite - he's a man of accomplishments and an inspiration.
In short, a God.
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That's why Yates is so deadly. Recognize!!
;D
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Nasser crushing Doz there.....
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He's wrong there. Bodybuilding was / is a huge part of Arnie's life, but it was just a means to an end. He had the same impact in Hollywood and now politics.
There are meatheads who know little outside eating every 3 hours and lifting heavy, but Arnold is the exact opposite - he's a man of accomplishments and an inspiration.
In short, a God.
but the wizard didnt say anything bad about arnold, he just said he didnt want to be like him!!..
also dont forget that when nasser first started bb arnold was still a 2nd level actor so for nasser arnold was just a bb!!..
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Nasser crushing Doz there.....
i dont know why sometimes i like you ;D
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i dont know why sometimes i like you ;D
I'm a likeable person. ;D
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Why did Nasser wear his glasses onstage? ;)
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How did Nasser feel about Markus ruhls physique? Ruhl sort of replaced Nasser as the mass monster of the IFBB
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How did Nasser feel about Markus ruhls physique? Ruhl sort of replaced Nasser as the mass monster of the IFBB
i dont know how nasser sees ruhl's physique but i believe he likes him as a person!!..
imo ruhl is one of the freakest ever but like fux he didnt have a very good shape!!..
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Why did Nasser wear his glasses onstage? ;)
So he could pick out the schmoes in the 3rd row.
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i dont know how nasser sees ruhl's physique but i believe he likes him as a person!!..
imo ruhl is one of the freakest ever but like fux he didnt have a very good shape!!..
yeah I think ruhl is a guy that pretty much everyone likes
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One guy went on to win multiple Mr. Olympias the other relies on a very small, demented fanbase to purchase his soiled underwear so he can eat.
.........and if he doesn't eat he can not soil the underwear and sales will go down so it's kind of a magic circle for him
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is this going to be in his book?
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I love how Nasser claims he's not reduced to bodybuilding. If it wasn't for bodybuilding he would be living in obscurity with no schmoes to hawk his lifestyle videos or clothing......in Germany. He is in the US because Joe Weider sponsored him. Despite his so called education he was working in a car factory. What has he done with his intelligence? Nothing. He can barely even speak properly without wheezing like a steam engine. Nasser needed bodybuilding not the other way around. In fact he's still living off his bodybuilding identity.
Arnold on the other hand used bodybuilding as a stepping stone and has been successful in other arenas - business/acting/promotiing/politics - whatever he tried his hand in. Arnold doesn't live off his bodybuilding image the way nasser does nor does he need to sell worn clothes or shoot lifestyle videos for "fans".
Nothing nasser has done will ever come close to Arnolds accomplishments - in bodybuilding and out. Arnold has gotten more out of his degree in business than nasser with his sociology and poiltical science.
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just got of the phone with arnold.... he told me.... nasser who!?!?
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but the wizard didnt say anything bad about arnold, he just said he didnt want to be like him!!..
also dont forget that when nasser first started bb arnold was still a 2nd level actor so for nasser arnold was just a bb!!..
Yes, but he still used Arnold as the example of "not just being about bodybuilding" when Arnold was probably the furthest example from that.
He must have not had on his superior intelligence inducing glasses on at the time.
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i dont know how nasser sees ruhl's physique but i believe he likes him as a person!!..
imo ruhl is one of the freakest ever but like fux he didnt have a very good shape!!..
Yes, Nasser has said that Ruhl is a nice person, and on top of that in his interview he also noted that had Ruhl been with an American name instead of something foreign-sounding like "Markus Reuhl" he would have also placed higher in shows.
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So Nasser, the Wizard of Male Anus licking, said he didn't want to be like Arnold........
Mission accomplished
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when both were 23 :o
Amazing. One went on to win 6 Olympia titles while the other went on to win none,
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Well done Sherief. This one is somewhat of a regular thread. Unlike your usual Schmoe-topics. Keep this up and you might be a tolerated person.
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Yes, Nasser has said that Ruhl is a nice person, and on top of that in his interview he also noted that had Ruhl been with an American name instead of something foreign-sounding like "Markus Reuhl" he would have also placed higher in shows.
yes bobs, also i remember he mentioned ruhl as an example of benaziza's size,.. he said something about benaziza like ''he was few inches over 5' but had more size than ruhl and nasser''.. i may not be accurate here because i read this very long time ago..
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Yes, Nasser has said that Ruhl is a nice person, and on top of that in his interview he also noted that had Ruhl been with an American name instead of something foreign-sounding like "Markus Reuhl" he would have also placed higher in shows.
One would have to wonder how a Austrian man with the jawbreaking name schwarzennegger could possibly have overcome this obstacle. After all the name Schwarzennegger is as american as apple pie. :-X
As usual nasser has an excuse for everything. :-\
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One would have to wonder how a Austrian man with the jawbreaking name schwarzennegger could possibly have overcome this obstacle. After all the name Schwarzennegger is as american as apple pie. :-X
As usual nasser has an excuse for everything. :-\
times change over decades ;)
Nasser aside though, you dont think this guy got shafted in some shows?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=302747.0;attach=344275;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=302747.0;attach=344277;image)
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times change over decades ;)
Nasser aside though, you dont think this guy got shafted in some shows?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=302747.0;attach=344275;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=302747.0;attach=344277;image)
Sure he was. It was all racism right?. In addition to the judges penalizing nasser due to 9/11 they also decided to stick it to Ruhl for WW2.
Facinating logic
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Sure he was. It was all racism right?. In addition to the judges penalizing nasser due to 9/11 they also decided to stick it to Ruhl for WW2.
Facinating logic
no stupid, “sep. 11” was in 2001 which was already after nasser’s prime..
Imo nasser was hated by assholes like you now because of sep. 11 but it had nothing to do with his placings..
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no stupid, “sep. 11” was in 2001 which was already after nasser’s prime..
Imo nasser was hated by assholes like you now because of sep. 11 but it had nothing to do with his placings..
never fails to amaze me how stupid you are sha-labia.
Nasser was living/competing in the US long before 9/11 happened. He's hardly the picture of a radical muslim nor does he live like one. His lifestyle was no different than any other bodybuilder at that time. If you think that the judges somehow saw nasser differently after 9/11 you're truly retarded. He was dropping in placing before 9/11 happened. Bigbobs used to use the 9/11 excuse all the time
Typical attitude of a poor loser - excuses aplenty instead of facing the truth.
nasser is hardly hated but he is laughed at because of his pathetic attempts at promoting himself on getbig via bobs. (see secret pm)
It has nothing to do with him being muslim - it has everything to do with him being a bitter has been who is wallowing in his own misery
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times change over decades ;)
Nasser aside though, you dont think this guy got shafted in some shows?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=302747.0;attach=344275;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=302747.0;attach=344277;image)
No I don't.
Because for the same reason as Nasser, he looks better in still pics than he does onstage
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never fails to amaze me how stupid you are sha-labia.
Nasser was living/competing in the US long before 9/11 happened. He's hardly the picture of a radical muslim nor does he live like one. His lifestyle was no different than any other bodybuilder at that time. If you think that the judges somehow saw nasser differently after 9/11 you're truly retarded. He was dropping in placing before 9/11 happened. Bigbobs used to use the 9/11 excuse all the time
Typical attitude of a poor loser - excuses aplenty instead of facing the truth. nasser is hardly hated but he is laughed at because of his pathetic attempts at promoting himself on getbig via bobs.
It has nothing to do with him being muslim - it has everything to do with him being a bitter has been who is wallowing in his own misery
i dont think bobs ever related nasser's placings to sep. 11,.. if he really "used to" do this just point to one of his posts!!.. when you claim something idiot you must support it with proofs or you will make fun of yourself and show how stupid you are.. like few months ago when you claimed i had gimmicks and you had proofs but just didnt want to show them to have some fun,... mmm ok well, i believe you have had good amount of "fun", now where are these proofs donkey-minded man?? :-\ :-X
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No I don't.
Because for the same reason as Nasser, he looks better in still pics than he does onstage
Yeah Nasser and Ruhl are unique human beings in that they look better in still pictures while everybody else looks worse in pictures but better "in real life" ::)
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No I don't.
Because for the same reason as Nasser, he looks better in still pics than he does onstage
lol so nasser looks better in pics. than in reality and of course "as we all know" dorian looks much better in reality than in pics ::)..
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i dont think bobs ever related nasser's placings to sep. 11,.. if he really "used to" do this just point to one of his posts!!.. when you claim something idiot you must support it with proofs or you will make fun of yourself and show how stupid you are.. like few months ago when you claimed i had gimmicks and you had proofs but just didnt want to show them to have some fun,... mmm ok well, i believe you have had good amount of "fun", now where are these proofs donkey-minded man?? :-\ :-X
Go check his past posts or ask him yourself pygmy.
Are you angry after the multiple ownings you've received in the past few days.? Beaten the wife mercilessly......again? ;D
It's not nice to make fun of the retarded but in your case I always make an exception :-*
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lol so nasser looks better in pics. than in reality and of course "as we all know" dorian looks much better in reality than in pics ::)..
Nasser looks better here only because it's a still picture, but if you were actually sitting there and watching in real life Dorian looked better...but as soon as you click your camera and the image is saved it magically makes Nasser look better and Dorian worse. A very strange phenomenon indeed ::)
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because still pictures don't tell the whole story ;D
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Yeah Nasser and Ruhl are unique human beings in that they look better in still pictures while everybody else looks worse in pictures but better "in real life" ::)
wow bobs my comment came 2 seconds after yours and we both said nearly the same thing!!..
yes great minds think alike ;D
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Nasser looks better here only because it's a still picture, but if you were actually sitting there and watching in real life Dorian looked better...but as soon as you click your camera and the image is saved it magically makes Nasser look better and Dorian worse. A very strange phenomenon indeed ::)
lol..
another phenomenon is that gronk and tyr seem to be very stupid here but in reality they are much more stupid ;D
i go to the gym now bro., see you soon... TEAM NASSER ALL THE WAY ;)
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lol..
another phenomenon is that gronk and tyr seem to be very stupid here but in reality they are is much more stupid ;D
i go to the gym now bro., see you soon... TEAM NASSER ALL THE WAY ;)
Don't hurt yourself lifting the pink dumbells, tiny
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Nasser looked the most impressive to me at the 96' German Grand Prix. I am not a fan of his 99' Arnold physique. I think Nasser is that kind of bodybuilder who needs to be over 280 lbs to look dominant because his bone structure is so massive, making his joints always look bigger than his muscles. 270 lbs was relatively small for Nasser, and this is especially true because he tended to retain water - water retention always was his biggest problem.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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FIXED for truth - get your facts straight she-labia
Once again bigsobs and she-labia seem to have lost again here but in reality they are much bigger losers ;D
She-labia ran away to the gym to his job cleaning toilets in Egypt., We.ll see them cry again soon...
TEAM NASSER OWNED ALL THE WAY Part....too many times for an accurate count.
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also dont forget that when nasser first started bb arnold was still a 2nd level actor so for nasser arnold was just a bb!!..
Nasser started in the 70's? Wow.
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Nasser looks better here only because it's a still picture, but if you were actually sitting there and watching in real life Dorian looked better...but as soon as you click your camera and the image is saved it magically makes Nasser look better and Dorian worse. A very strange phenomenon indeed ::)
Flex Magazine May 2002
Let it be said that the camera can lie at physique contests. Some guys look great onstage but not so great on final film (Dorian Yates, for one) and vice versa (Shawn Ray is an example).
Bob Chick GetBig Jan 15 , 2007
The judges made their decision based on what they saw live and in person. Pictures mean nothing as they can be deceiving...
John Hotten book " Muscle "
" Chris Cormier standing next to Dorian onstage he sensed ' radiation coming off him , like an aura. ' The power of that muscle was tangible. It exerted a force all of its own. Cormier thought ' I might as well forget about this guy and concentrate on being second. ' There was something else , too , strange. You had to witness him in the flesh. such granite hradness had a property that could nor be held on film or caught on paper. You had to see it live.
MuscleMag International Feb 1994 on Dorian Yates at the 1993 Mr Olympia
" He's huge , absolutely HUGE ...he's ripped completely RIPPED. And while he's not in possession of the prettiest physique body by a long shot , he's equipped with all the bodyparts you need to win .
Combine this with the fact that he's 10 TIMES more impressive when you see him onstage at the Olympia than he is in pictures or on videos and you got yourself a winner.
Flex magazine Jan 1992 on Dorian Yates
" Dorian has the type of physique that looks much better and more powerfull in person than photos. I personally saw him onstage , and Yates if definitely light years ahead of the way he looks in photos.
Mr Gethin GetBig Steptember 10 , 2007
Beat Ronnie fare and square on the european tour...Huh? Were you there? Did you know anyone who was there, or are you speculating via pics? I'm a contest photog and can tell you that pics dont always give a true depiction.
Bob Chick GetBig 10 - 05 - 2007
THis is why pictures will never replace actually being there, in person and close to the stage....
On the subject of conditioning, no-one did it better than Dorian. He achieved a hardness and dryness (without losing fullness) that nobody has ever matched. In the flesh he looked even harder than he did in photos. It was like a statue made of granite was standing in front of you.
Dorian Yates interview bodybuilding.com 2008
Everyone who sees my physique in person always comments on how much better I look in person than in pictures. That's because my physique is thick and developed from all angles. From the front, from the back, from the side, standing on my head: it doesn't matter. Everywhere is fully developed from every angle. And this might not show in one-dimensional photos. When you turn somebody to the side and they are twice as thick as everyone else, then that shows up.
Congrats Bobs ALL of these people are lying that Dorian looks better in person and you figured out all of their lies sitting at home on your PC despite never seeing Dorian compete ::)
and Nasser looks better compared to what? a semi-flexed Dorian? scared of a pic of him fully flexed? ( see attached pic ) and saying Nasser beats a semi-flexed career worse Dorian isn't saying much do you find comfort in this? doesn't say much about Nasser ;)
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when both were 23 :o
Nasser with six years of training under his belt and Dorian with just two years . ;) Nasser never was in Dorian's league despite both of them starting training with weights in the same year ( 1983 ) ;D
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Nasser started in the 70's? Wow.
no in early 80s..
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Flex Magazine May 2002
Let it be said that the camera can lie at physique contests. Some guys look great onstage but not so great on final film (Dorian Yates, for one) and vice versa (Shawn Ray is an example).
Bob Chick GetBig Jan 15 , 2007
The judges made their decision based on what they saw live and in person. Pictures mean nothing as they can be deceiving...
John Hotten book " Muscle "
" Chris Cormier standing next to Dorian onstage he sensed ' radiation coming off him , like an aura. ' The power of that muscle was tangible. It exerted a force all of its own. Cormier thought ' I might as well forget about this guy and concentrate on being second. ' There was something else , too , strange. You had to witness him in the flesh. such granite hradness had a property that could nor be held on film or caught on paper. You had to see it live.
MuscleMag International Feb 1994 on Dorian Yates at the 1993 Mr Olympia
" He's huge , absolutely HUGE ...he's ripped completely RIPPED. And while he's not in possession of the prettiest physique body by a long shot , he's equipped with all the bodyparts you need to win .
Combine this with the fact that he's 10 TIMES more impressive when you see him onstage at the Olympia than he is in pictures or on videos and you got yourself a winner.
Flex magazine Jan 1992 on Dorian Yates
" Dorian has the type of physique that looks much better and more powerfull in person than photos. I personally saw him onstage , and Yates if definitely light years ahead of the way he looks in photos.
Mr Gethin GetBig Steptember 10 , 2007
Beat Ronnie fare and square on the european tour...Huh? Were you there? Did you know anyone who was there, or are you speculating via pics? I'm a contest photog and can tell you that pics dont always give a true depiction.
Bob Chick GetBig 10 - 05 - 2007
THis is why pictures will never replace actually being there, in person and close to the stage....
On the subject of conditioning, no-one did it better than Dorian. He achieved a hardness and dryness (without losing fullness) that nobody has ever matched. In the flesh he looked even harder than he did in photos. It was like a statue made of granite was standing in front of you.
Dorian Yates interview bodybuilding.com 2008
Everyone who sees my physique in person always comments on how much better I look in person than in pictures. That's because my physique is thick and developed from all angles. From the front, from the back, from the side, standing on my head: it doesn't matter. Everywhere is fully developed from every angle. And this might not show in one-dimensional photos. When you turn somebody to the side and they are twice as thick as everyone else, then that shows up.
Congrats Bobs ALL of these people are lying that Dorian looks better in person and you figured out all of their lies sitting at home on your PC despite never seeing Dorian compete ::)
and Nasser looks better compared to what? a semi-flexed Dorian? scared of a pic of him fully flexed? ( see attached pic ) and saying Nasser beats a semi-flexed career worse Dorian isn't saying much do you find comfort in this? doesn't say much about Nasser ;)
so why does dorian look good in the pics. of mr. olympia 93 and 95 and doesnt look good in the pics. of 97???.. was he a normal guy till 95 then after that has become a phenomenal guy who looks good in reality and like shit in pics.??? :-X
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Don't hurt yourself lifting the pink dumbells, tiny
i prefer the rose dumbells :-X
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Flex Magazine May 2002
Let it be said that the camera can lie at physique contests. Some guys look great onstage but not so great on final film (Dorian Yates, for one) and vice versa (Shawn Ray is an example).
Bob Chick GetBig Jan 15 , 2007
The judges made their decision based on what they saw live and in person. Pictures mean nothing as they can be deceiving...
John Hotten book " Muscle "
" Chris Cormier standing next to Dorian onstage he sensed ' radiation coming off him , like an aura. ' The power of that muscle was tangible. It exerted a force all of its own. Cormier thought ' I might as well forget about this guy and concentrate on being second. ' There was something else , too , strange. You had to witness him in the flesh. such granite hradness had a property that could nor be held on film or caught on paper. You had to see it live.
MuscleMag International Feb 1994 on Dorian Yates at the 1993 Mr Olympia
" He's huge , absolutely HUGE ...he's ripped completely RIPPED. And while he's not in possession of the prettiest physique body by a long shot , he's equipped with all the bodyparts you need to win .
Combine this with the fact that he's 10 TIMES more impressive when you see him onstage at the Olympia than he is in pictures or on videos and you got yourself a winner.
Flex magazine Jan 1992 on Dorian Yates
" Dorian has the type of physique that looks much better and more powerfull in person than photos. I personally saw him onstage , and Yates if definitely light years ahead of the way he looks in photos.
Mr Gethin GetBig Steptember 10 , 2007
Beat Ronnie fare and square on the european tour...Huh? Were you there? Did you know anyone who was there, or are you speculating via pics? I'm a contest photog and can tell you that pics dont always give a true depiction.
Bob Chick GetBig 10 - 05 - 2007
THis is why pictures will never replace actually being there, in person and close to the stage....
On the subject of conditioning, no-one did it better than Dorian. He achieved a hardness and dryness (without losing fullness) that nobody has ever matched. In the flesh he looked even harder than he did in photos. It was like a statue made of granite was standing in front of you.
Dorian Yates interview bodybuilding.com 2008
Everyone who sees my physique in person always comments on how much better I look in person than in pictures. That's because my physique is thick and developed from all angles. From the front, from the back, from the side, standing on my head: it doesn't matter. Everywhere is fully developed from every angle. And this might not show in one-dimensional photos. When you turn somebody to the side and they are twice as thick as everyone else, then that shows up.
Congrats Bobs ALL of these people are lying that Dorian looks better in person and you figured out all of their lies sitting at home on your PC despite never seeing Dorian compete ::)
and Nasser looks better compared to what? a semi-flexed Dorian? scared of a pic of him fully flexed? ( see attached pic ) and saying Nasser beats a semi-flexed career worse Dorian isn't saying much do you find comfort in this? doesn't say much about Nasser ;)
hahaha okay ND so pictures are totally irrelevent and any time one looks significantly better than another in a picture you can use the cop out that pictures dont tell the whole story. I guess looking at this picture there's no way of knowing who actually looked better in real life since it's just a picture lol
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Yes, Nasser has said that Ruhl is a nice person, and on top of that in his interview he also noted that had Ruhl been with an American name instead of something foreign-sounding like "Markus Reuhl" he would have also placed higher in shows.
Like Markus Schwarzenegger? ::)
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hahaha okay ND so pictures are totally irrelevent and any time one looks significantly better than another in a picture you can use the cop out that pictures dont tell the whole story. I guess looking at this picture there's no way of knowing who actually looked better in real life since it's just a picture lol
Who said pics were totally irrelevant? please show me where I typed that . and you posted a pic of a semi-relaxed Dorian next to a fully-flexed one of Nasser and have the balls to claim he looks better? I posted a picture of Dorian fully flexed and now the picture changes doesn't it? and you think a single pose wins a contest? sorry not how it works
And I notice you can't refute the quotes and just post some dumbass comparison that has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand
like Hulkster you're scared of good pictures if Dorian and I don't blame you , and again lets give Nasser 1997 ......okay he won now what? be beat a career worse Dorian? like Jay beat Ronnie in 06? that's a consolation? Nasser couldn't touch Dorian at his worse never mind his best either way you FAIL
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so why does dorian look good in the pics. of mr. olympia 93 and 95 and doesnt look good in the pics. of 97???.. was he a normal guy till 95 then after that has become a phenomenal guy who looks good in reality and like shit in pics.??? :-X
Maybe because you guys are scare to post good ones from 1997 ;)
these are all from 1997 and he looks good
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More pics of Yates looking good in 97
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when both were 23 :o
So Sheriff how did Yates get ahead of Nasser if both were 23 at the time?
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Yates at his peak is still the benchmark, then daylight second and third, then big Ron. At his very best no one has ever come close in just complete head to toe ripped development, his injuries and waist thickness took away some of that gloss later on, but at his best forget it. Jay was ripped in places this year but he still was a long way off the hardness overall Dorian possessed at his best.
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So Sheriff how did Yates get ahead of Nasser if both were 23 at the time?
Dorian was just training for 2 years in that pic and Nasser for 6 , Dorian flew by him and never looked back
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Yes, Nasser has said that Ruhl is a nice person, and on top of that in his interview he also noted that had Ruhl been with an American name instead of something foreign-sounding like "Markus Reuhl" he would have also placed higher in shows.
But, "El Sonbaty" was American sounding enough to place high? What a bunch of shit. ::)
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This is just fucking insane. The guy looks like a granite statue. And to think he couldn't even train for 3 weeks prior to this show :o
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=303018.0;attach=344513;image)
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Maybe because you guys are scare to post good ones from 1997 ;)
these are all from 1997 and he looks good
"looks good" lol yeah no biceps and weak arms overall, wide waist, etc. The only pose he dominated in 97 is the rear lat spread. His rear double biceps shot has peashooter arms, and the you posted all but one front shot the rest from the back lol.
But, "El Sonbaty" was American sounding enough to place high? What a bunch of shit. ::)
He would have placed even higher if he was American and not so outspoken against IFBB officials.
Who said pics were totally irrelevant? please show me where I typed that . and you posted a pic of a semi-relaxed Dorian next to a fully-flexed one of Nasser and have the balls to claim he looks better? I posted a picture of Dorian fully flexed and now the picture changes doesn't it? and you think a single pose wins a contest? sorry not how it works
And I notice you can't refute the quotes and just post some dumbass comparison that has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand
like Hulkster you're scared of good pictures if Dorian and I don't blame you , and again lets give Nasser 1997 ......okay he won now what? be beat a career worse Dorian? like Jay beat Ronnie in 06? that's a consolation? Nasser couldn't touch Dorian at his worse never mind his best either way you FAIL
Actually I just post the only front relaxed comparison that I've seen of the two, whereas you are posting a solo front relaxed shot of Dorian and for some reason you think he looks much better in it just because he's spreading his arms out more? lol. Looks weak in both shots, but weaker in the shot next to Nasser since Nasser is there as a frame of reference to compare him to.
Haha, when he's standing alone he's fully flexed but when onstage next to Nasser he's only "half-flexed" great logic ::)
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"looks good" lol yeah no biceps and weak arms overall, wide waist, etc. The only pose he dominated in 97 is the rear lat spread. His rear double biceps shot has peashooter arms, and the you posted all but one front shot the rest from the back lol.
He would have placed even higher if he was American and not so outspoken against IFBB officials.
Actually I just post the only front relaxed comparison that I've seen of the two, whereas you are posting a solo front relaxed shot of Dorian and for some reason you think he looks much better in it just because he's spreading his arms out more? lol. Looks weak in both shots, but weaker in the shot next to Nasser since Nasser is there as a frame of reference to compare him to.
Haha, when he's standing alone he's fully flexed but when onstage next to Nasser he's only "half-flexed" great logic ::)
"looks good" lol yeah no biceps and weak arms overall, wide waist, etc. The only pose he dominated in 97 is the rear lat spread. His rear double biceps shot has peashooter arms, and the you posted all but one front shot the rest from the back lol.
Ah the old cherry-pick don't worry I expected it and has nothing to do with posting pics that contardict your claim to the contrary .
Again you figured it out that all those people were lying , great job.
He would have placed even higher if he was American and not so outspoken against IFBB officials.
absolutely pathetic , you actually feel comfortable typing this?
Actually I just post the only front relaxed comparison that I've seen of the two, whereas you are posting a solo front relaxed shot of Dorian and for some reason you think he looks much better in it just because he's spreading his arms out more? lol. Looks weak in both shots, but weaker in the shot next to Nasser since Nasser is there as a frame of reference to compare him to.
Haha, when he's standing alone he's fully flexed but when onstage next to Nasser he's only "half-flexed" great logic ::)
There is a vast difference between the picture I posted of him fully flexed and holding his gut tight than the strawman you posted where he's semi-relaxed and it's all a matter of semantics and why? because let's give that pose to Nasser along with the front double biceps and ab-thigh , he still loses the front latspread , side shots and anything from the rear , so you accomplish nothing
And let's say he flat out beat Dorian that year this again means what? he doesn't even come close to Dorian so once again you fail
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He would have placed even higher if he was American and not so outspoken against IFBB officials.
How do you explain his losing some of the Grand Prix shows (all of them in some years, like 97), which were each judged by a different judging panel in a different country?
I could say the same thing in reverse - he got too much hype in the magazines like FLEX and placed higher than he should have.
People say stuff to justify their views all the time. No biggie.
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How do you explain his losing some of the Grand Prix shows (all of them in some years, like 97), which were each judged by a different judging panel in a different country?
I could say the same thing in reverse - he got too much hype in the magazines like FLEX and placed higher than he should have.
People say stuff to justify their views all the time. No biggie.
You can't talk logically that confuses them.
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So Nasser, the Wizard of Male Anus licking, said he didn't want to be like Arnold........
Mission accomplished
K-os, are you saying that Nasshole should change his last name to El-Noboty, instead of El-Sonbaty?
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You can't talk logically that confuses them.
Haha it's the same as guys like Block and Special Ed saying there was some conspiracy behind Jay winning the title this year, when it's obvious that he won simply because he was huge, with decent shape and great conditioning.
I don't see how Nasser could have placed even higher than he did, given he was runner up at the Olympia (and top 3 numerous times), won the NOC, the AC and a whole lot of pro shows. Sure 97 was close, but if Yates was missing an upper arm, Nasser was missing a lower back. There are lots of people (myself included) who had no problem with Dorian winning.
If it was racism or something silly like that, then no way would have Nasser placed below K Lo in all the Grand Prix shows in the couple of weeks following the 97 Olympia (where he was in the same shape, if not slightly better) or lost the Olympia the following year(s).
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Haha it's the same as guys like Block and Special Ed saying there was some conspiracy behind Jay winning the title this year, when it's obvious that he won simply because he was huge, with decent shape and great conditioning.
I don't see how Nasser could have placed even higher than he did, given he was runner up at the Olympia (and top 3 numerous times), won the NOC, the AC and a whole lot of pro shows. Sure 97 was close, but if Yates was missing an upper arm, Nasser was missing a lower back. There are lots of people (myself included) who had no problem with Dorian winning.
If it was racism or something silly like that, then no way would have Nasser placed below K Lo in all the Grand Prix shows in the couple of weeks following the 97 Olympia (where he was in the same shape, if not slightly better) or lost the Olympia the following year(s).
This sport is just full of ignorant people who just base everything on how a person looks , what they think should win , was they prefer and when the ignorant masses hero's don't live up to the hype it's a conspiracy , politics , race , names , the whole rolodex of excuses
Jay was a deserving winner and outclassed everyone and if anyone says otherwise they just can't be objective .
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How do you explain his losing some of the Grand Prix shows (all of them in some years, like 97), which were each judged by a different judging panel in a different country?
I could say the same thing in reverse - he got too much hype in the magazines like FLEX and placed higher than he should have.
People say stuff to justify their views all the time. No biggie.
Don’t say this about flex magazine, it’s ND’s main source of credibility!!
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Haha it's the same as guys like Block and Special Ed saying there was some conspiracy behind Jay winning the title this year, when it's obvious that he won simply because he was huge, with decent shape and great conditioning.
I don't see how Nasser could have placed even higher than he did, given he was runner up at the Olympia (and top 3 numerous times), won the NOC, the AC and a whole lot of pro shows. Sure 97 was close, but if Yates was missing an upper arm, Nasser was missing a lower back. There are lots of people (myself included) who had no problem with Dorian winning.
If it was racism or something silly like that, then no way would have Nasser placed below K Lo in all the Grand Prix shows in the couple of weeks following the 97 Olympia (where he was in the same shape, if not slightly better) or lost the Olympia the following year(s).
The difference is that nasser’s lower back looked relatively bad comparing to the rest of him and to dorian’s lower back but dorian’s left arm looked deformed, not just small or flat.. even if nasser didn’t compete I believe shawn or levrone should have beat dorian..
The thing that really astonishes me is that no one of the judges noticed his freshly torn triceps!!.. can we say that dorian’s tears appear in pics and videos only but disappear in reality to create a new phenomenon??