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Title: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: disturbia on October 24, 2009, 10:57:18 PM
What are the opinions that weight lifting can cause anxiety attacks for people with underlying anxiety issues?   That tearing the muscle down triggers a release of adrenalin which in turn leads to anxiety issues?
Title: Re: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: Bast175 on October 24, 2009, 11:00:12 PM
That could be, so let's all quit lifting weights immediately to be safe.
Title: Re: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: powerpack on October 24, 2009, 11:05:31 PM
Not with body building but with power lifting.
When I still did Judo I pushed my self hard with PL movements
With exercises like squats and bench were I was under the weight and going for singles or doubles if I was not agressive enough I would sometimes feel nervous.
Title: Re: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: outby43 on October 24, 2009, 11:15:42 PM
Do you feel them come on at the gym?  If so get on the treadmill, blast your ipod and run or get on a stairclimber until your too fucking tired to feel anxious. 
Title: Re: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 24, 2009, 11:18:12 PM
What are the opinions that weight lifting can cause anxiety attacks for people with underlying anxiety issues?   That tearing the muscle down triggers a release of adrenalin which in turn leads to anxiety issues?

BS, exercise in general lowers anxiety, stress and blood pressure.
Title: Re: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: disturbia on October 24, 2009, 11:20:29 PM
BS, exercise in general lowers anxiety, stress and blood pressure.

relax there skippy, its just a question
Title: Re: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: wavelength on October 24, 2009, 11:22:04 PM
people can get anxiety before lifting
Title: Re: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: Signifying Monkey on October 24, 2009, 11:23:31 PM
i used to feel very anxious about chicks scrutinizing my bulge when i was laying on the bench.  then kevin levrone gave me a suggestion and i've been fine since
Title: Re: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: disturbia on October 24, 2009, 11:28:13 PM
Interesting where did you hear about this Dist?

i live it
Title: Re: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: Tombo on October 24, 2009, 11:29:35 PM
BS, exercise in general lowers anxiety, stress and blood pressure.

Maybe those residual effects are present long term and after exercise but not during
Title: Re: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 24, 2009, 11:33:42 PM
relax there skippy, its just a question

It was just an answer.....try to keep up!
Title: Re: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: disturbia on October 24, 2009, 11:33:42 PM
the deal is im fine when i lift, but I always get anxiety attacks a few hours later or around there. Neverfails. Probably psychological at this point
Title: Re: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: disturbia on October 24, 2009, 11:39:30 PM
Maybe there something to it.  I haven't been lifting much myself and not much anxiety compared to before.

ya same--im fine with cardio but the weights set me off
Title: Re: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: wavelength on October 24, 2009, 11:42:54 PM
the deal is im fine when i lift, but I always get anxiety attacks a few hours later or around there. Neverfails. Probably psychological at this point

that's strange that you get them afterwards
Title: Re: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: disturbia on October 24, 2009, 11:49:32 PM
that's strange that you get them afterwards

ya never fails either
Title: Re: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: Mr Nobody on October 25, 2009, 04:57:13 AM
What are the opinions that weight lifting can cause anxiety attacks for people with underlying anxiety issues?   That tearing the muscle down triggers a release of adrenalin which in turn leads to anxiety issues?
We may have to get Falcon to do experiments on himself to determine the root cause.
Title: Re: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: Meso_z on October 25, 2009, 04:59:55 AM
I got panic attacks in the gym 2-3 times in my years of lifting. scary thing
Title: Re: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: Tapeworm on October 25, 2009, 05:04:16 AM
I get The Bad Mood if I don't eat enough after a workout.  Maybe it's just how low blood sugar affects you.
Title: Re: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: Matterhorn on October 25, 2009, 05:59:16 AM

I am very afraid that I could really get too big and stuff. kinda like really massive, you know.
Title: Re: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: Luv2Hurt on October 25, 2009, 06:21:23 AM
Not with body building but with power lifting.
When I still did Judo I pushed my self hard with PL movements
With exercises like squats and bench were I was under the weight and going for singles or doubles if I was not agressive enough I would sometimes feel nervous.

Agree I will get a bit anxious if I know I have to go in and push some heavy leg work, squats mostly.  I don't go for singles but reps with relatively heavy weight, it's probally a combonation of fear of getting injured and knowing you have to push yourself deep into the pain zone. I usually do this on the weekend mornings when I have had a lot of coffee, adding to the effect.  After getting the squats done the feeling subsides.
Title: Re: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: dyslexic on October 25, 2009, 06:38:34 AM
It's not always anxiety. Sometimes an arryhthmia can occur during workouts. Get it checked out...


unless you really want your medical advice from the Getbig forum.
Title: Re: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: Samourai Pizzacat on October 25, 2009, 06:58:58 AM
ya never fails either
The effects of adrenaline have worn off long before you have the anxiety attack.
Are you trying to 'feel' for signs of muscle trauma? It might be a a case of hypervigilance feeding your panic attacks.  Try to ignore small bodily discomfort, as they're common after heavy exercise.
Title: Re: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: SS on October 25, 2009, 08:58:34 AM
the deal is im fine when i lift, but I always get anxiety attacks a few hours later or around there. Neverfails. Probably psychological at this point
I use to get hem right after..... nothing worse than being on a scooter, having a full blown attack. ??? ::)


I just learned to take it out on guys faces and girls vaginas more, oh a and dropping the cocaine, paxel, and drinking seemed to help also ;D


Title: Re: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: dodger on October 25, 2009, 09:45:52 AM
you need to check your adrenals with a 4-point cortisol saliva test,anxiety is caused by weak adrenals and hypoglycemia is weak adrenals also,you can have hypoglycemia but still NOT show up in blood sugar tests,my brother is living this now,try to get a 3-4 days of saliva-testing 4 times a day done...frequent-does-chelation.yahoo.com
Title: Re: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: 240 is Back on October 25, 2009, 10:35:48 AM
when you're compeltely whooped form a workout, waterlogged from loading creatine and 2 gal water a day, and sore in thighs, back and chest from the week's workouts...

i can't see having enough energy to do anything but vegg out and relax/heal. 

I've been doing everything 100% right for 2 weeks now, and I can barely moved.  Bloated, sore, and just plain beat.
Title: Re: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: Mr Nobody on October 25, 2009, 10:38:54 AM
when you're compeltely whooped form a workout, waterlogged from loading creatine and 2 gal water a day, and sore in thighs, back and chest from the week's workouts...

i can't see having enough energy to do anything but vegg out and relax/heal. 

I've been doing everything 100% right for 2 weeks now, and I can barely moved.  Bloated, sore, and just plain beat.
Hey 240 was you the one that posted you could use baking soda = works like Creatine or did someone else here post that? Baking Soda has alot of uses damn good for alot of stuff.
Title: Re: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 25, 2009, 10:40:03 AM
What are the opinions that weight lifting can cause anxiety attacks for people with underlying anxiety issues?   That tearing the muscle down triggers a release of adrenalin which in turn leads to anxiety issues?

I used to have them in the gym a long time ago. It was usually after very taxing sets. I was usually dry heaving in the bathroom and thinking, "oh please God make this go away and I'll never come back here again (the gym)". It was like the sky was falling down and my world was ending. But I always came back and it resolved itself eventually. A panic attack is nothing like the anxiety and nervousness felt before heavy workouts. That's nothing.
Title: Re: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 25, 2009, 10:41:53 AM
Hey 240 was you the one that posted you could use baking soda = works like Creatine or did someone else here post that? Baking Soda has alot of uses damn good for alot of stuff.

I know I posted about it a while ago. It's not really like creatine. It helps with endurance.

I wish I could get powdered potassium citrate. Supposedly much better than baking soda.
Title: Re: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: 240 is Back on October 25, 2009, 10:43:31 AM
nope, wasn't me on b aking soda.  that's interesting though.

I'm loading the old fashioned 5g teaspoon creatine 3x per day.  It's working very well.  I know I sound like a BBing.com newb.

Title: Re: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 25, 2009, 10:44:31 AM
you need to check your adrenals with a 4-point cortisol saliva test,anxiety is caused by weak adrenals and hypoglycemia is weak adrenals also,you can have hypoglycemia but still NOT show up in blood sugar tests,my brother is living this now,try to get a 3-4 days of saliva-testing 4 times a day done...frequent-does-chelation.yahoo.com

That's pseudo science IMHO. I mean what's "weak adrenals"? Things like hypoglycemia can trigger panic attacks but the etiology is more complex than something you can't define in scientific terms, like "weak adrenals".
Title: Re: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: Mr Nobody on October 25, 2009, 10:50:01 AM
nope, wasn't me on b aking soda.  that's interesting though.

I'm loading the old fashioned 5g teaspoon creatine 3x per day.  It's working very well.  I know I sound like a BBing.com newb.


Someone here said baking soda would work like creatine ...yes creatine works for sure baking soda is cheap as hell though
Title: Re: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: Rami on October 25, 2009, 11:00:50 AM
What are the opinions that weight lifting can cause anxiety attacks for people with underlying anxiety issues?   That tearing the muscle down triggers a release of adrenalin which in turn leads to anxiety issues?

I never have it while I'm working out. Even thought I'm breathing heavy and heart flutters doing sprint or all out squats. Usually then I just close my eyes and continue and try to block it out.

Your adrenal glands can become exhausted from over training or stress. Not sure if that would result in panic attacks though, but maybe lethargy. 

Sometimes just before a workout I feel damn in a few minutes I'm going to put my body through that!?
Title: Re: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 25, 2009, 11:06:14 AM
Your adrenal glands can become exhausted from over training or stress.

'Adrenal fatigue' is not a recognized 'disease' from what I've seen. No ways to test for it. Lots of quackery related to this term.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrenal_fatigue
Title: Re: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: Deadpool on October 25, 2009, 11:08:19 AM
run to your doctor and get Ativans....mmmmmm
Title: Re: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 25, 2009, 11:15:17 AM
run to your doctor and get Ativans....mmmmmm

In the long term these will only make panic attacks worse and more frequent. For acute and infrequent use only.
Title: Re: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: benchmstr on October 25, 2009, 11:26:26 AM
What are the opinions that weight lifting can cause anxiety attacks for people with underlying anxiety issues?   That tearing the muscle down triggers a release of adrenalin which in turn leads to anxiety issues?
it happens if i work out by my self for too long (2-3 months). if i have a workout partner, or just someone to talk to while i workout i am alright. when i workout by myself i usually do a 45 minute workout in 20 minutes, i really stress the shit out of myself. i usually have to go home and walk through the woods for a few hours.

bench
Title: Re: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: CalvinH on October 25, 2009, 12:56:29 PM
the deal is im fine when i lift, but I always get anxiety attacks a few hours later or around there. Neverfails. Probably psychological at this point


My friend it might not be a good idea to boost up your test levels.
Title: Re: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: disturbia on October 25, 2009, 01:04:54 PM

My friend it might not be a good idea to boost up your test levels.

from lots of experimenting, if I bring my test levels up just a bit to more normal levels, I feel like a million bucks. But once I start training with weights seriously, I get this delayed effect of anxiety after I lift. Like some form of my body saying, "hey, we have torn muscles, emergency".  I dont know  how else to explain it.  Or maybe its similar to an insulin drop but with adrenalin,...when I am lifting levels are high, and then later they bottom out and I get an anxiety effect.  I  really dont know.
Title: Re: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: CalvinH on October 25, 2009, 01:08:25 PM
from lots of experimenting, if I bring my test levels up just a bit to more normal levels, I feel like a million bucks. But once I start training with weights seriously, I get this delayed effect of anxiety after I lift. Like some form of my body saying, "hey, we have torn muscles, emergency".  I dont know  how else to explain it.  Or maybe its similar to an insulin drop but with adrenalin,...when I am lifting levels are high, and then later they bottom out and I get an anxiety effect.  I  really dont know.


I don't mean normal levels.I thought you were going to bring them higher ;)...would that extra affect your agression and anxiety ???
Title: Re: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: disturbia on October 25, 2009, 01:09:26 PM

I don't mean normal levels.I thought you were going to bring them higher ;)...would that extra affect your agression and anxiety ???

I thought about it but Im not bringing them higher--why play with fire?  I'm just sticking to the program of making them normal. And bringing them normal has only been positive in the past
Title: Re: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: CalvinH on October 25, 2009, 01:13:13 PM
I thought about it but Im not bringing them higher--why play with fire?  I'm just sticking to the program of making them normal. And bringing them normal has only been positive in the past


Sounds good 8) I'm lucky the only time I deal with anxiety is when I'm stupid enough to take a fat burning or energy pill.then I need to go to the gym and work it off!
Title: Re: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: Rami on October 25, 2009, 01:16:14 PM
from lots of experimenting, if I bring my test levels up just a bit to more normal levels, I feel like a million bucks. But once I start training with weights seriously, I get this delayed effect of anxiety after I lift. Like some form of my body saying, "hey, we have torn muscles, emergency".  I dont know  how else to explain it.  Or maybe its similar to an insulin drop but with adrenalin,...when I am lifting levels are high, and then later they bottom out and I get an anxiety effect.  I  really dont know.

If something is torn, your mind would receive clear signal of this as it happens. What exercises do you do that makes you worry about torn muscles? Do you flat bench a lot and/or really heavy?
Title: Re: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: disturbia on October 25, 2009, 01:21:00 PM
If something is torn, your mind would receive clear signal of this as it happens. What exercises do you do that makes you worry about torn muscles? Do you flat bench a lot and/or really heavy?

sorry I should be clearer---not torn in injured sense, I just mean torn as in normal wear and tear from training and then the muscle repairs and builds itself up. 
Title: Re: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: Samourai Pizzacat on October 25, 2009, 01:58:38 PM
you need to check your adrenals with a 4-point cortisol saliva test,anxiety is caused by weak adrenals and hypoglycemia is weak adrenals also,you can have hypoglycemia but still NOT show up in blood sugar tests,my brother is living this now,try to get a 3-4 days of saliva-testing 4 times a day done...frequent-does-chelation.yahoo.com

nonsense, anxiety is caused by a lot of things, in Disturbia's case I think it's likely due to misinterpretation of normal stressors, or a hypervigilance/hypersensitivity to these normal stressors. Have you considered cognitive behavioral therapy? Re-appraisal of sensory information coupled with a improving your grip on the resulting cognitive processes: basically preventing your thoughts from spiralling into an anxiety attack.

I would seriously step away from self-administering test. With your history of depression and anxiety, your neuro-transmitters are likely out of balance. Test may be a temporary fix, but may do more harm then good.
Title: Re: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: lesaucer on October 25, 2009, 02:21:50 PM
take anavar
Title: Re: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: outby43 on October 25, 2009, 03:35:14 PM
nonsense, anxiety is caused by a lot of things, in Disturbia's case I think it's likely due to misinterpretation of normal stressors, or a hypervigilance/hypersensitivity to these normal stressors. Have you considered cognitive behavioral therapy? Re-appraisal of sensory information coupled with a improving your grip on the resulting cognitive processes: basically preventing your thoughts from spiralling into an anxiety attack.

I would seriously step away from self-administering test. With your history of depression and anxiety, your neuro-transmitters are likely out of balance. Test may be a temporary fix, but may do more harm then good.

spot on
Title: Re: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: disturbia on October 25, 2009, 03:49:57 PM
nonsense, anxiety is caused by a lot of things, in Disturbia's case I think it's likely due to misinterpretation of normal stressors, or a hypervigilance/hypersensitivity to these normal stressors. Have you considered cognitive behavioral therapy? Re-appraisal of sensory information coupled with a improving your grip on the resulting cognitive processes: basically preventing your thoughts from spiralling into an anxiety attack.

I would seriously step away from self-administering test. With your history of depression and anxiety, your neuro-transmitters are likely out of balance. Test may be a temporary fix, but may do more harm then good.

regarding this. I have years of self cognitive and cognitive therapy with me. Also, when I do 200 mg test/week in the past, I had no anxiety, was level, no highs or lows and was in a decent mood.  Fore years, as illustrated on here, with no test, I was a miserable, violent  out of hand retard.  I firmly beleive the test brings me to a more normal level.  The anxiety issues only arise when I start lifting hard again. Maybe I just need to do cardio and only lift lightly a couple times a week.
Title: Re: Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks
Post by: Samourai Pizzacat on October 26, 2009, 01:27:10 AM
Did you have CBT for anxiety? If so some basic principles should give you a handle on the anxiety from lifting. The other option is to lift lighter. Problem with the last option is that you're not treating the underlying issue, the next time you might get anxiety over something more mundane, something you will not be able to simply avoid.