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and I accidently jump when they go to stick me and the needle ends up in the eye of the person giving me the shot, will I be ok?
BS?
http://farmwars.info/?p=1314
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Depends. If a close buddy is behind you saying, "Yes officer, it was just a freakish accident.", then you'll be fine.
If Berzerk Fury is behind you....well....you might wanna start threading some soap. Not that he's a snitch, but the opportunity to put you away for a long, long time could be just too tempting...
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Wait. I just saw your post on the sports board besmirching the Steelers and their greatness. I'll be turning you in for murder. :D
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Depends. If a close buddy is behind you saying, "Yes officer, it was just a freakish accident.", then you'll be fine.
If Berzerk Fury is behind you....well....you might wanna start threading some soap. Not that he's a snitch, but the opportunity to put you away for a long, long time could be just too tempting...
I'm not saying anything about BF anymore. You kid with the guy and he comes at you like a serial killer on pcp, the guy is... nevermind...
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Wait. I just saw your post on the sports board besmirching the Steelers and their greatness. I'll be turning you in for murder. :D
COCKGOBBLINS!!!!!!!!!!!
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and I accidently jump when they go to stick me and the needle ends up in the eye of the person giving me the shot, will I be ok?
BS?
http://farmwars.info/?p=1314
In a few weeks, when people are getting the swine flu like crazy, nobody will have a problem getting the vaccine.
Instead all y'all do will be to complain how the big bad government held out on vaccine. ::)
Conspiracy theorists unite!
The thing is, USA is in general overmedicated. Because doctors are afraid of losing business, and lawsuits.
Eg, if a 6-year old kid seeks medical care with a little fever, chances are that the doctor actually will prescribe some antibiotics, just to "safe it".
Even if the kid would have been ok with a little rest, and general care at home.
In the long run, it means resistance against the antibiotics builds up.
Ask any doctor if their own kids have been treated with antibiotics, and the answer is almost always no.
When I lived in the USA, I have never seen so many painkillers, different medicines, in my life.
On the flip side, instead of just being sceptic of medicines, some people (HUGO!!! ;D) at best thinks all medicines are totally unnecessary, or at worst, are a huge conspiracy by the government to drug the public and keep them like mindless drones. ;)
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Fuck the vaccine...load yourself up on Vitamin D (2,000 i.u.s a day) and Vitamin C (as much as you feel you need)and you will be fine.
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In a few weeks, when people are getting the swine flu like crazy, nobody will have a problem getting the vaccine.
Conspiracy theorists unite!
Yeah, half the nation will drop like flies unless we get our shots. Then we'll see riots and mayhem. Oh, the humanity. Government, please save us from the deadly swine flu! Hedge, I don't wanna die man!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
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In a few weeks, when people are getting the swine flu like crazy, nobody will have a problem getting the vaccine.
Instead all y'all do will be to complain how the big bad government held out on vaccine. ::)
Conspiracy theorists unite!
The thing is, USA is in general overmedicated. Because doctors are afraid of losing business, and lawsuits.
Eg, if a 6-year old kid seeks medical care with a little fever, chances are that the doctor actually will prescribe some antibiotics, just to "safe it".
Even if the kid would have been ok with a little rest, and general care at home.
In the long run, it means resistance against the antibiotics builds up.
Ask any doctor if their own kids have been treated with antibiotics, and the answer is almost always no.
When I lived in the USA, I have never seen so many painkillers, different medicines, in my life.
On the flip side, instead of just being sceptic of medicines, some people (HUGO!!! ;D) at best thinks all medicines are totally unnecessary, or at worst, are a huge conspiracy by the government to drug the public and keep them like mindless drones. ;)
Bla bla bla.... bla bla.... bla bla bla bla bla... STFU... bla
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Yeah, half the nation will drop like flies unless we get our shots. Then we'll see riots and mayhem. Oh, the humanity. Government, please save us from the deadly swine flu! Hedge, I don't wanna die man!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
No.
That's not what I'll think will happen.
What may happen is that areas where there hasn't been a good administration of the vaccine, a big number will get knocked out for a week or two.
And that will lead to an increased strain on the health care system, which I am not sure it can handle.
I am certain poor countries will have problem dealing with both their normal health care situation and the added work load of 30-40 percent of the work force seeking medical attention.
The swine flu isn't dangerous individually from what I understand. But it has tremendous effects to a whole economy, the whole world, as it has the potential of keeping the work force down for a few weeks, and also add cost to the health care.
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No.
That's not what I'll think will happen.
What may happen is that areas where there hasn't been a good administration of the vaccine, a big number will get knocked out for a week or two.
And that will lead to an increased strain on the health care system, which I am not sure it can handle.
I am certain poor countries will have problem dealing with both their normal health care situation and the added work load of 30-40 percent of the work force seeking medical attention.
The swine flu isn't dangerous individually from what I understand. But it has tremendous effects to a whole economy, the whole world, as it has the potential of keeping the work force down for a few weeks, and also add cost to the health care.
Fearmonger.
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Fuck the vaccine...load yourself up on Vitamin D (2,000 i.u.s a day) and Vitamin C (as much as you feel you need)and you will be fine.
I hope you realize Vitamin D can be toxic even deadly when abused like that and Vitamin C when taken in large amounts will produce diarrhea... nothing like a GB pharmacist
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I hope you realize Vitamin D can be toxic even deadly when abused like that and Vitamin C when taken in large amounts will produce diarrhea... nothing like a GB pharmacist
So that's why I have been having the Dirrster the last few days!
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I'm not saying anything about BF anymore. You kid with the guy and he comes at you like a serial killer on pcp, the guy is... nevermind...
Isn't that how a furious beserzker is suppose to behave?
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My workout partner's dog/house sitter had it.
As soon as she started feeling badly she went to the doc immediately to get meds. She said she felt horrible and completely exhausted..had a fever/cough/etc. She said she would rather have the swine flu than the regular flu because she didn't have the intestinal distress. I think sometimes the H1N1 does include the intestional distress though.
I guess she laid on the couch and moaned and slept for several days and finally went out yesterday for the first time after about 1 1/2 weeks. Oh, and she lost 6 pounds.
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and I accidently jump when they go to stick me and the needle ends up in the eye of the person giving me the shot, will I be ok?
BS?
http://farmwars.info/?p=1314
how exactly would the WHO "take control" and "dissolve sovereign governments"
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Vitamin D is rarely toxic. It is well tolerated even at doses of above 50,000units per week. That is prescribed for deficient patients all the time. 2000ius/day is a very common dose for mild deficiency. That doesn't mean everyone needs it, but people with deficiency often don't absorb that well and need higher doses. The RDA is insufficient, that has been written about extensively in the last few years.
High doses of Vitamin C can give GI problems, that's correct but in general vitamin C is well tolerated. 500-1000mg/day is more than enough for most people.
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I hope you realize Vitamin D can be toxic even deadly when abused like that and Vitamin C when taken in large amounts will produce diarrhea... nothing like a GB pharmacist
Vitamin C is a water soluble vitamin, it would take astronomical amounts to be harmful. I take upwards of 5 grams a day with no ill effects. Vitamin C is damn near a miracle by itself with the things that it helps with.
Vitamin D taking in two doses (1,000 i.u.s twice a day for your dumbass) will produce no ill effects. The amounts that you would need to take to get that side effect would have to be in the teens of i.u.s consistently for days. While our bodies may produce Vitamin D from sun exposure it is not produced in quantaties that have any real positive effect on our health.
You need to read a little more. The dosage of these two vitamins is not abuse. If anything it is a very mild dose.
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Vitamin D is rarely toxic. It is well tolerated even at doses of above 50,000units per week. That is prescribed for deficient patients all the time. 2000ius/day is a very common dose for mild deficiency. That doesn't mean everyone needs it, but people with deficiency often don't absorb that well and need higher doses. The RDA is insufficient, that has been written about extensively in the last few years.
High doses of Vitamin C can give GI problems, that's correct but in general vitamin C is well tolerated. 500-1000mg/day is more than enough for most people.
Damn...I'm not even a doctor! Thanks for the backup shoot. ;D
There you go Samson.
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I guess she laid on the couch and moaned and slept for several days and finally went out yesterday for the first time after about 1 1/2 weeks. Oh, and she lost 6 pounds.
yeah, it's the swine flu diet. soooo many people round here have been on it.
So.... once you have the flu, the shot wouldn't be of benefit? Your body already has its defenses up/antibodies?
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Ellen DeGeneres is getting her prostrate massaged.
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yeah, it's the swine flu diet. soooo many people round here have been on it.
So.... once you have the flu, the shot wouldn't be of benefit? Your body already has its defenses up/antibodies?
I don't know..that is a good question!
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I don't know..that is a good question!
No, if you get it, stay at home unless you start to worsen. Try to have as little contact with others, if possible avoid getting into public spaces like stores.
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No, if you get it, stay at home unless you start to worsen. Try to have as little contact with others, if possible avoid getting into public spaces like stores.
Yes, I think 240 was talking about after you are better..like after you heal up if you are exposed again later will you have some built up resistance to it. Not sure though.
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yeah, does anyone know? Once you have had it... does the shot do you any good?
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All exposed to H1N1 flu have developed antibodies: NIV study
Umesh Isalkar, TNN 10 September 2009, 12:08am IST
PUNE: As per the findings of a study conducted by scientists at the National Institute of Virology (NIV), over one lakh people were exposed to the
H1N1 A influenza virus and "all of them have developed antibodies against the novel H1N1 strain," A C Mishra, director of NIV, told TOI on Wednesday.
"There is no denying the fact that the extensive exposure of the city's population to the H1N1 virus has led to building immunity against it," Mishra said.
Notably, the NIV had conducted a serological study of 1,000 doctors to find out whether they had developed antibodies against the virus. "We found that a few of them had developed antibodies against the H1N1 virus, but going by our recent study, we have come to the conclusion that over one lakh people were exposed to the H1N1 virus in the city and all of them had developed immunity against it," Mishra said.
Asked why the presence of antibodies was found in certain doctors only, Mishra said, "The development of antibodies differs from group to group. Earlier, the small group studied comprised only doctors, but this time, we are talking about the population in general."
Asked whether the exposed people could still get infected at a later stage, Mandeep Chadha, deputy director of NIV, said, "They may not get infected with the specific strain to which they were exposed for a long time."
When contacted, microbiologist Siddharth Dalvi said, "Since a large number of people in the city had been exposed to the H1N1 influenza, they must have developed immunity in the form of antibodies and cytotoxic cells." Elaborating, Dalvi said there are two types of immune responses antibody-mediated and cell-mediated. "Antibodies are special proteins that react specifically with a particular foreign target, for example, proteins of bacteria or viruses," he said. "Antibodies are produced after an individual encounters a foreign protein. Depending on several factors, the antibody remains in the system for a few weeks to several years. In case of certain viruses, it may even persist lifelong," Dalvi said.
Influenza virus has 10 types of proteins and antibodies are produced against most of these. "However, only those antibodies produced against the surface proteins (hemagglutinin and neuraminidase) provide protective immunity. On the other hand, antibodies produced against internal viral proteins do not provide protection, but can be used for diagnosis of influenza," Dalvi said.
Sharing the view, virologist Sonali Sanghavi said, "A majority of antibodies are present in the bloodstream in the form of freely circulating molecules. A certain type of antibody (called IgA) is present in the nasal secretions, that is, locally in the respiratory tract and provides protection against infection."
"Certain special cells of the immune system called T cells also play a role in protective immunity. The T cells have a central role in defence against the influenza virus as they can directly kill the virus-infected cells as well as promote antibody formation," said Sanghavi. Optimum protection against influenza infection requires co-ordinated effort by the local antibody, circulating antibody and the T cells, Sanghavi said.
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www.thefastertimes.com
I’ve already had H1N1, should I get the vaccine? If I do, will it harm me?
If you’ve already had H1N1, there’s no point in getting the vaccine. However, if you do get the vaccine, it will not harm you-on the other hand, it won’t help either.
Many people have had flu-like symptoms over the past several months and wonder if it was H1N1, realizing that if it was, there’s no point to getting the H1N1 vaccine. Since most people who have had upper respiratory infections in the past few months did not actually have H1N1, the CDC is recommending that they still get the vaccine against H1N1. This is especially true for people in one of the high-risk groups mentioned above.
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I didn't see that they said you can't get it more than once.
September 18th, 2009 3:26 PM Eastern
Do You Need Vaccine if You’ve Already Had H1N1?
by Jonathan Serrie
With the first doses of 2009 H1N1 vaccine expected in early October, many Americans will have already been exposed to the virus — which was first identified in April. A common question is whether someone who’s already been sick still needs to get vaccinated — or whether they’re already protected.
The short answer is: Yes AND yes, according to experts at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
“People who have actually been infected with the 2009 H1N1 virus likely do have some immunity,” said Jay Butler, MD, chief of the CDC’s 2009 H1N1 Vaccine Task Force. “But the important issue is whether or not they know that’s what they were actually infected with.”
Most suspected H1N1 cases are diagnosed without laboratory confirmation.
“Early in the epidemic, we had other strains of influenza circulating,” Butler said. “There are other viruses that can make people ill as well. So, even if someone has had an illness that’s similar to influenza, even if there was perhaps a credible diagnosis of H1N1 infection made, our recommendation would still be to receive the vaccine so that you know that you’re immune.”
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how exactly would the WHO "take control" and "dissolve sovereign governments"
My instinct is to call BS but these days, who knows lol...
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yeah, does anyone know? Once you have had it... does the shot do you any good?
nope
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Vitamin D is rarely toxic. It is well tolerated even at doses of above 50,000units per week. That is prescribed for deficient patients all the time. 2000ius/day is a very common dose for mild deficiency. That doesn't mean everyone needs it, but people with deficiency often don't absorb that well and need higher doses. The RDA is insufficient, that has been written about extensively in the last few years.
High doses of Vitamin C can give GI problems, that's correct but in general vitamin C is well tolerated. 500-1000mg/day is more than enough for most people.
Vitamin D naturally produced by your skin when exposed to sunshine is NOT TOXIC. Artificially produced Vitamin D can be VERY TOXIC when abused. You don't take vitamins to the point where they are TOLERATED. Tolerance points mean to the threshold point where a serious reaction will occur. Vitamin D does NOT leave ones system quickly and because of that its effects when abused can go on for long periods of time. De- calcification of the bones, Damage to the kidneys, Hypercalcimia or calcium in the blood, Hypercalcuria or excessive calcium in the urine, Polydipsia or excessive thirst, polyuria or excessive urine and hypertension are just a few side effects of too much vitamin D.
Vitamin D prescription is one of the main reasons for OVERDOSING and complications. The 50000 units per week are for people who are severely deficient. In these cases large doses can be administered by a doctor or in a hospital to bring up the lagging levels, after which normal dosing or plain old out door activities with the arms, face and/or legs exposed will maintain levels. YES, doses of 500 to 1000 mg of vitamin C per day are acceptable but 5 and More grams can bring a person to the toilet with alarming speed.
Vitamin D is NOT to be played with. So the same with other supplements like Zinc, Copper, Iron...abuses of these can have extreme side effects and even death.
You americans are foolish in your thinking of things in this regard..your mind is "a little is good a LOT IS BETTER"!!!!. It only takes a little increase in vitamins to benefit a person during sickness or stressful period. Cranking Vitamin C up to thousands of milligrams or multiple grams per day can cause Diarrhea, kidney stones and a host of reactions. Also if you can TOLERATE a large dose of vitamin C over long periods your body gets used to these large doses and you HAVE TO maintain those dosages or else ironically you GET SICK.
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Generally I don't think people should get flu shots. Same with antibiotics. Limit the use.
Since the flu only affects a fairly low percentage. This time it's different. It seems like perhaps 40-60 percent could be hit.
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Generally I don't think people should get flu shots. Same with antibiotics. Limit the use.
Since the flu only affects a fairly low percentage. This time it's different. It seems like perhaps 40-60 percent could be hit.
if they're telling the truth about this flu, everyone will get it that doesn't get vaccinated, unless they live in total isolation. Maybe not this year but it'll run its course. The best that a good immune system will do is a mild case, which by far seems to be the case for most who get it.
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if they're telling the truth about this flu, everyone will get it that doesn't get vaccinated, unless they live in total isolation. Maybe not this year but it'll run its course. The best that a good immune system will do is a mild case, which by far seems to be the case for most who get it.
I have never paid attention to any flu mess before. Half my family and friends have all had it... a few confirmed h1. I dont know if I got the bad strain of it, but I was sick when they all were. it has killed some people in this area, so people are very scared of it.
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I have never paid attention to any flu mess before. Half my family and friends have all had it... a few confirmed h1. I dont know if I got the bad strain of it, but I was sick when they all were. it has killed some people in this area, so people are very scared of it.
Rob, can you tell us about the course of your symptoms? My friend's friend said she felt kind of sick one morning and then later was hit like a ton of bricks in the same day.
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Rob, can you tell us about the course of your symptoms?
For me, it was minor. fever, stomach all tore up, throat all tore up. but only for like 2 or 3 days as I just kept saying "i'm not sick... I'm not sick...". Some of my family that had it - it was like a week straight, maybe 10 days for one of them. REAL BAD fever. 102 for days.
I think 1 family and 1 friend was actually confirmed, and a few others were just sick with them at the same time, but never tested. Doc just gave them meds and said wait it out.
Schools just told kids to stay home a week when it swept thru. Even today, if any kid has any fever, it's "stay home for 48 hours, no Q's asked".
I think that's why I'm not too freaked out about it. I babysat the kids when they had it, and I got sick afterwards... but I stopped working out, and LOADED UP on calories... I'm talking a box of ritz crackers and all the mountain dew I could drink - and it helped me a lot.
Obviously I don't feel I have any authority on this issue... maybe I got it, maybe not, but i'm sure i was exposed... those kids were puking and using bathroom nonstop and still playing with each other... man i'm glad that's over.
So I dont know if the shot matters to me much.
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For me, it was minor. fever, stomach all tore up, throat all tore up. but only for like 2 or 3 days as I just kept saying "i'm not sick... I'm not sick...". Some of my family that had it - it was like a week straight, maybe 10 days for one of them. REAL BAD fever. 102 for days.
I think 1 family and 1 friend was actually confirmed, and a few others were just sick with them at the same time, but never tested. Doc just gave them meds and said wait it out.
Schools just told kids to stay home a week when it swept thru. Even today, if any kid has any fever, it's "stay home for 48 hours, no Q's asked".
I think that's why I'm not too freaked out about it. I babysat the kids when they had it, and I got sick afterwards... but I stopped working out, and LOADED UP on calories... I'm talking a box of ritz crackers and all the mountain dew I could drink - and it helped me a lot.
Obviously I don't feel I have any authority on this issue... maybe I got it, maybe not, but i'm sure i was exposed... those kids were puking and using bathroom nonstop and still playing with each other... man i'm glad that's over.
So I dont know if the shot matters to me much.
Thanks for this. Glad everyone is better!! Did all the kids have it? Did popsicles help? :)
Are the meds they received anti-biotics?
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yep, antibiotics. crushed up in cherry corn syrup or something like that? usually in my family, we dont go to doc until after we've been sick 2 or 3 days, we're stupid like that. See if it passes, etc.
they lived on popsicles!! my mom had them a lot of the time too, when i got sick, so I never really knew how sick everyone was.
I can see how a flu like this could really cripple a society. I still managed to argue on getbig... it kept my mind off it... but i sure wasn't productive.
I dont know how I feel about the shot. I got a flu shot 1 year, never did get sick that year. But I hate needles and usually, I get sorta sick for 1 day, then I'm okay while everyone else gets it for a week. Maybe i held off swine for 2 days, who knows. it wasn't much diff from a regular flu, IMO. I dont know what the stats are.
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Vitamin D naturally produced by your skin when exposed to sunshine is NOT TOXIC. Artificially produced Vitamin D can be VERY TOXIC when abused. You don't take vitamins to the point where they are TOLERATED. Tolerance points mean to the threshold point where a serious reaction will occur. Vitamin D does NOT leave ones system quickly and because of that its effects when abused can go on for long periods of time. De- calcification of the bones, Damage to the kidneys, Hypercalcimia or calcium in the blood, Hypercalcuria or excessive calcium in the urine, Polydipsia or excessive thirst, polyuria or excessive urine and hypertension are just a few side effects of too much vitamin D.
Vitamin D prescription is one of the main reasons for OVERDOSING and complications. The 50000 units per week are for people who are severely deficient. In these cases large doses can be administered by a doctor or in a hospital to bring up the lagging levels, after which normal dosing or plain old out door activities with the arms, face and/or legs exposed will maintain levels. YES, doses of 500 to 1000 mg of vitamin C per day are acceptable but 5 and More grams can bring a person to the toilet with alarming speed.
Vitamin D is NOT to be played with. So the same with other supplements like Zinc, Copper, Iron...abuses of these can have extreme side effects and even death.
You americans are foolish in your thinking of things in this regard..your mind is "a little is good a LOT IS BETTER"!!!!. It only takes a little increase in vitamins to benefit a person during sickness or stressful period. Cranking Vitamin C up to thousands of milligrams or multiple grams per day can cause Diarrhea, kidney stones and a host of reactions. Also if you can TOLERATE a large dose of vitamin C over long periods your body gets used to these large doses and you HAVE TO maintain those dosages or else ironically you GET SICK.
You do realize that he is a doctor, right?
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I haven't gotten a flu-shot in forever. Although me and my finance may have had the h1n1 about 9 months ago. Same symptoms as 240 although I went to the doctor and he told me that I had a "upper respiratory infection" who knows, but it was 4 days of hell, sweat, fever, headache and awful flu symptoms. But then it was over for us.
Anyways, the Swine Flu is still a strain of influenza, correct? So then you would have to develop antibodies if it has run its course with you, correct? Has this been brought up in the media? I haven't heard much about it, just that you're going to die and everyone you love is going to die no matter what.
Thirdly, do we know if the vaccine is even effective at all?
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I haven't gotten a flu-shot in forever. Although me and my finance may have had the h1n1 about 9 months ago. Same symptoms as 240 although I went to the doctor and he told me that I had a "upper respiratory infection" who knows, but it was 4 days of hell, sweat, fever, headache and awful flu symptoms. But then it was over for us.
Anyways, the Swine Flu is still a strain of influenza, correct? So then you would have to develop antibodies if it has run its course with you, correct? Has this been brought up in the media? I haven't heard much about it, just that you're going to die and everyone you love is going to die no matter what.
Thirdly, do we know if the vaccine is even effective at all?
Swine flu is Influenza. It is a combo of the avian, human and swine influenza virus. No you will not get antibodies for the swine flu from the regular flu, not sure if that's what you were asking. If you had the swine flu, then yes you have antibodies and don't have to worry about getting vaccinated. It is highly unlikely you had the swine flu 9 months ago.
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also antibiotics won't do shit for any flu virus. The only thing it will do is to aid in secondary (bacterial) infections that often occur at the end of a cold or flu. When you notice your freaking snot turning yellow and a nasty smell, that's a secondary infection. You will notice at the start of a sickness that it runs clear. IMO you actually don't need antibiotics to kill the secondary infections. If you just make sure to not consume any simple sugars in my experience you will not develop the secondary infections they so often perscribe antibiotics for. this means not even eating white bread... Our diets suck ass and are pure fuel for bacteria. antibiotics are only perscribed to kill bacteria, not a virus like a cold virus or flu virus. Eat whole foods and no simple sugars and you'll most likely be fine without antibiotics. If it still hangs in there you then might need an antibiotic because we have bred super bacteria with the misuse of antibiotics. If you are perscribed antibiotics follow the whole course through and don't miss a pill.
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Swine flu is Influenza. It is a combo of the avian, human and swine influenza virus. No you will not get antibodies for the swine flu from the regular flu, not sure if that's what you were asking. If you had the swine flu, then yes you have antibodies and don't have to worry about getting vaccinated. It is highly unlikely you had the swine flu 9 months ago.
My question was about developing antibodies from having the swine flu. It may have been longer than 9 months but I worked in school at the time in a poor neighborhood that was just south of Chicago, it would have been a prime candidate for H1N1. Not going to argue either way if I had it or not, but the symptoms were spot on and it was during the time when H1N1 was just at the beginning of it's terror cycle.
As for antibiotics, I usually only take them if totally necessary. The secondary infections are a part of being sick and the constant use of antibiotics for treating small bacterial infections will cause/is causing greater problems now and down the road.
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My question was about developing antibodies from having the swine flu. It may have been longer than 9 months but I worked in school at the time in a poor neighborhood that was just south of Chicago, it would have been a prime candidate for H1N1. Not going to argue either way if I had it or not, but the symptoms were spot on and it was during the time when H1N1 was just at the beginning of it's terror cycle.
As for antibiotics, I usually only take them if totally necessary. The secondary infections are a part of being sick and the constant use of antibiotics for treating small bacterial infections will cause/is causing greater problems now and down the road.
no worry about arguing, this is more important that petty arguing so we're just talking here and all is cool either way. We're just shooting around opinions here, no big deal. If you did have the swine flu then yes you do have the antibodies and do not need a vaccination. That's going to be a judgement call for you personally. CBS ran an investigation recently that suggested many people were being diagnosed with swine flu when they actually did not have it. The problem from their perspective was that if they were diagnosed with it, they would then feel they didn't have to be vaccinated for it. They then might actually get sick with the swine flu and go into work thinking they had already had it and it couldn't be it. In the investigation, they felt the numbers being diagnosed for H1N1 was overinflated. We're in total agreement with antibiotics. It's actually amazing how many doctors will automatically perscribe antibiotics for a virus lol.... It is for the secondary infections but they never tell you that diet and your own system will do what the antibiotics will do. I'm not even sure half of them understand it or at least they seem not to care. Now they will be needed sometimes, mostly due to the superbactera we've created with them, lol...
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You do realize that he is a doctor, right?
AND????.... Doctors have the least knowledge when it comes to dealing holistically, naturapathically, organically and nutritionally with diseases and conditions. They are bought and paid for by BIG PHARMA and are told to deal exclusively allopathically with patients on all matters regarding health. TO be even more direct in america 200,000 patients die every year taking medications prescribed by doctors...per doctors orders...with most deaths resulting from patients receiving medications that were not and are not necessary. So their track record is not exactly good. But be wise in dealing with the human body, with supplementation and treating your own self. I am making sure that people, as they are so accused to doing, DON'T over medicate, don't abuse, don't take for granted that something natural means you can USE AS MUCH AS YOU WANT, get and hear sound advice and make wise choices as opposed to snap decisions based on wishful thinking.
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Sounds like Obama is flubbing on the question of WILL YOU TAKE THE FLU VACCINE
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did you take it yet hugo? If so, did you get the shits?
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did you take it yet hugo? If so, did you get the shits?
that might explain his verbal diarrhea all over the O-T boards
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did you take it yet hugo? If so, did you get the shits?
nope.
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AND????.... Doctors have the least knowledge when it comes to dealing holistically, naturapathically, organically and nutritionally with diseases and conditions. They are bought and paid for by BIG PHARMA and are told to deal exclusively allopathically with patients on all matters regarding health. TO be even more direct in america 200,000 patients die every year taking medications prescribed by doctors...per doctors orders...with most deaths resulting from patients receiving medications that were not and are not necessary. So their track record is not exactly good. But be wise in dealing with the human body, with supplementation and treating your own self. I am making sure that people, as they are so accused to doing, DON'T over medicate, don't abuse, don't take for granted that something natural means you can USE AS MUCH AS YOU WANT, get and hear sound advice and make wise choices as opposed to snap decisions based on wishful thinking.
Once again, I take the dosages that have been described above and I haven't even had the regular flu in years!!!! Get over yourself.
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Sounds like Obama is flubbing on the question of WILL YOU TAKE THE FLU VACCINE
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Sounds more like he's afraid of being accused of skipping ahead in the line.
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I got it right now.
Hugo, quit being a bitch and get the shot.