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8 U.S. troops killed in Afghanistan
CNN.com ^ | 10/27/2009
Posted on Tuesday, October 27, 2009 10:43:37 AM by cll
-- Roadside bombs today killed eight U.S. service members in Afghanistan, the military said.
(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com
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Either change the ROE or bring these soldiers home ASAP. Sitting around on the golf course, campainging 24/7 for health care and global warming, dithering on a decision for almost a year now just aint cutting it.
GAREBEAR & HH6 - BE SAFE YOU GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!
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KABUL — Eight American troops were killed in two separate insurgent attacks Tuesday in southern Afghanistan, making October the deadliest month of the war for U.S. forces since the 2001 invasion to oust the Taliban.
In one of the insurgent assaults, seven Americans were killed while patrolling in armored vehicles, U.S. forces spokesman Lt. Col. Todd Vician said. He said an Afghan civilian died in the same attack. The eighth American was killed in a separate attack elsewhere in the south, also while patrolling in a military vehicle, he said.
The military issued a statement saying the deaths occurred during "multiple, complex" bomb strikes. It said several troops were wounded and evacuated to a nearby medical facility, but gave no other details.
Capt. Adam Weece, a spokesman for American forces in the south, said both attacks occurred in Kandahar province. In Washington, a U.S. defense official said at least one was followed by an intense firefight with insurgents who attacked after an initial bomb went off. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he wasn't authorized to release the information.
The deaths bring to 55 the total number of American troops killed in October in Afghanistan. The previous high occurred in August, when 51 U.S. soldiers died and the troubled nation held the first round of its presidential elections amid a wave of Taliban insurgent attacks.
The deadliest month of the Iraq conflict for U.S. forces was November 2004, when 137 Americans were killed during the assault to clear insurgents from the city of Fallujah.
"A loss like this is extremely difficult for the families as well as for those who served alongside these brave service members," said Navy Capt. Jane Campbell, a military spokeswoman. "Our thoughts and prayers are with the families and friends who mourn their loss."
The loss of life followed one of the worst days of the war for U.S. forces in Afghanistan since they launched air strikes in 2001 to oust the Taliban from power.
On Monday, a U.S. military helicopter crashed returning from the scene of a firefight with suspected Taliban drug traffickers in western Afghanistan, killing 10 Americans including three DEA agents. In a separate crash the same day, four more U.S. troops were killed when two helicopters collided over southern Afghanistan.
U.S. military officials insisted neither crash was the result of hostile fire, although the Taliban claimed they shot down a U.S. helicopter in the western province of Badghis. The U.S. did not say where in western Afghanistan its helicopter went down, and no other aircraft were reported missing.
Those casualties marked the Drug Enforcement Administration's first deaths since it began operations here in 2005. Afghanistan is the world's largest producer of opium – the raw ingredient in heroin – and the illicit drug trade is a major source of funding for insurgent groups.
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Associated Press Writer Heidi Vogt in Kabul and Pauline Jelinek in Washington contributed to this report.
Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/27/8-us-troops-die-in-multip_n_335350.html
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Prayers for the familes. This thing is ratcheting up.
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Yep....
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Hey don't worry, even the Obama has said that this is the "necessary war" and he has his top men on it since his campaign/presidency (which are hard to distinguish) has begun. He is has his best men with their required reading lists, that apparently don't include McCrystal's recommendation, on the job. He has promised to "take his time" with this one even though the recommendation has been in their hands for a few months now.
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8 U.S. troops killed in Afghanistan
CNN.com ^ | 10/27/2009
Posted on Tuesday, October 27, 2009 10:43:37 AM by cll
-- Roadside bombs today killed eight U.S. service members in Afghanistan, the military said.
(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com
________________________ ________________________ _______
Either change the ROE or bring these soldiers home ASAP. Sitting around on the golf course, campainging 24/7 for health care and global warming, dithering on a decision for almost a year now just aint cutting it.
GAREBEAR & HH6 - BE SAFE YOU GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks, bro. I'm waiting on a flight out of here today to go on leave.
I will be looking for wine and women.
They attacked the UN headquarters today. Bitches.
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Either change the ROE or bring these soldiers home ASAP. Sitting around on the golf course, campainging 24/7 for health care and global warming, dithering on a decision for almost a year now just aint cutting it.
Did you complain for 8 years whilee bush pulled troops away rom afgh to iraq? Did you say anything during the first 10 months of obama's presidency about afghanistan?
No, but now that drudge is yelling about it, Obama has to make his decision in a week or all is lost. Stop being a partisan drama queen.
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Did you complain for 8 years whilee bush pulled troops away rom afgh to iraq? Did you say anything during the first 10 months of obama's presidency about afghanistan?
No, but now that drudge is yelling about it, Obama has to make his decision in a week or all is lost. Stop being a partisan drama queen.
240 - they perceive weakness and our uncertainty as to a plan of action and are taking advantage of the situation.
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240 - they perceive weakness and our uncertainty as to a plan of action and are taking advantage of the situation.
they didn't feel this way for 8 years and 10 months.
today, they're emboldened. Right? come on
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they didn't feel this way for 8 years and 10 months.
today, they're emboldened. Right? come on
October so far is the highest month ever of casualities.
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October so far is the highest month ever of casualities.
in iraq, we suffered the highest casualties during the surge when we stopped pussyfooting around and went into the bad guys areas and kicked their asses. And it worked.
in afghanistan, we're not calling it a surge, but we are bumping up troop numbers while going into their areas. And it's working.
So quite cheerleading Bush's surge while crying about obamas.
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in iraq, we suffered the highest casualties during the surge when we stopped pussyfooting around and went into the bad guys areas and kicked their asses. And it worked.
in afghanistan, we're not calling it a surge, but we are bumping up troop numbers while going into their areas. And it's working.
So quite cheerleading Bush's surge while crying about obamas.
We are not doing a surge you dope, we are sitting around doing nothing with weakened ROE. Ask HH6.
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they didn't feel this way for 8 years and 10 months.
today, they're emboldened. Right? come on
It's pretty obvious that they're ramping up attacks to try to influence the American public and the coming decision on whether to send more troops or not. I'd reckon the last thing they want is another 40,000 or whatever troops on their doorstep while also having to deal with the Pakistani offensive.
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It's pretty obvious that they're ramping up attacks to try to influence the American public and the coming decision on whether to send more troops or not. I'd reckon the last thing they want is another 40,000 or whatever troops on their doorstep while also having to deal with the Pakistani offensive.
Exactly, and guys like 333 are buying right into it with all their hate propaganda. They are essentially willing this country to fail in this war in the hopes of scoring political points.
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Exactly, and guys like 333 are buying right into it with all their hate propaganda. They are essentially willing this country to fail in this war in the hopes of scoring political points.
No, I want Obama to either unleash the dogs of war against these animals like in Gladiator or bring them home.
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No, I want Obama to either unleash the dogs of war against these animals like in Gladiator or bring them home.
Sure you do ::)
You're on record as saying you want him to fail. This would mean he would fail. Don't pretend to care when you really don't. You put on some facade for us all about being pro military, meanwhile you want the commander of that military to fail.
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No, I want Obama to either unleash the dogs of war against these animals like in Gladiator or bring them home.
And for the record they are human beings like you and i. Not animals. Do they have lunatic ideas that must be stopped? Of course and if that means killing them then so be it. But lets not lose sight of the fact that they are in fact people.
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Sure you do ::)
You're on record as saying you want him to fail. This would mean he would fail. Don't pretend to care when you really don't. You put on some facade for us all about being pro military, meanwhile you want the commander of that military to fail.
Go look at all my posts on these issues. I have been 100% consistent. either unleash our soldiers to do what they are trained to do or bring them home.
As far as his domestic agenda, I hope it fails miserably. It already is half way there, which is a good thing since we may recover in a few years if nothing else is done, but the imposition of cap & tax, VAT taxes, health care taxes, etc, will be the true end.
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And for the record they are human beings like you and i. Not animals. Do they have lunatic ideas that must be stopped? Of course and if that means killing them then so be it. But lets not lose sight of the fact that they are in fact people.
Ur an idiot...I'd cook them and eat them. People who beat women and use acid on kids are not "human". They kill livestock that we enoculate, they do the same to people. LIbs like u will never understand.....u make a good sheep.
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Ur an idiot...I'd cook them and eat them. People who beat women and use acid on kids are not "human". They kill livestock that we enoculate, they do the same to people. LIbs like u will never understand.....u make a good sheep.
yuk
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And for the record they are human beings like you and i. Not animals. Do they have lunatic ideas that must be stopped? Of course and if that means killing them then so be it. But lets not lose sight of the fact that they are in fact people.
They conduct themselves like animals. Living in filth and squalor while running around chopping heads off, blowing up women and children and thumping their chest like apes over their fictitious book.
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We are not doing a surge you dope, we are sitting around doing nothing with weakened ROE. Ask HH6.
This is true. The ROE is crap under direction of McChrystal. He's got quite a fantasy going in his head. Wants us to get out and shop in Afghan markets.
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This is true. The ROE is crap under direction of McChrystal. He's got quite a fantasy going in his head. Wants us to get out and shop in Afghan markets.
Don't worry villagers, the U.S. soldier is as Afghanistanian as a hot pipe of opium!
Anyways, I can see that McChrystal wants to go full COIN, but one of the parts of COIN is to protect the indigenous population, which means you need the soldiers, equipment and the will to go out and kill as many bad guys as you can. I can see the periphery effects of going into markets and mingling, but the main thrust has to be kill Taliban and secure towns. Sitting on the water and food supply might not be a bad idea either.