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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Nutrition, Products & Supplements Info => Topic started by: pac-man on October 29, 2009, 09:29:59 AM
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Ok so I was reading some articles about way back when Met-Rx first hit the market. It came in two different cannisters- I belive one was called "base" and the other was called "plus". This was back when Bill Phillips was pushing it in Muscle Media 2000.
Well legend has it that there were some "extras" in there that by law probably shouldn't have been namely clenbuterol. Why do this? Well "spike" the initial few batches, the product works beyond anything people have bought off the shelf before and the it can live off of its reputation long enough were everyone makes a pretty good profit.
This was a little before my time and I did not discover Met-Rx till it came in the packets.
Anyone out there that remembers this?
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There were alot of "rumors" out there. Hot Stuff was another one reported to have extra ingredients in it.
If it did in fact have clen in it, back then it was not ilegal so why not. The funniest thing was that they were in 2 cannisters because they were unstable together but when you mixed them together for a shake...then it was fine!
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I miss that. Tasted like brownie batter and had the consistency of it. Gaspari became famous for just that. Making a supplement that contains an actual steroid and then removing it from the market a few months later. Now people brag about how good his line is but in reality all of the good stuff he ever came out with is gone.
I remember fizogen original ON product must have be A-BOMBS or DBOL. I bought some and swear I grew like there was no tomorrow. Total DBOL growth. Of course they banned that.
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I miss that. Tasted like brownie batter and had the consistency of it. Gaspari became famous for just that. Making a supplement that contains an actual steroid and then removing it from the market a few months later. Now people brag about how good his line is but in reality all of the good stuff he ever came out with is gone.
I remember fizogen original ON product must have be A-BOMBS or DBOL. I bought some and swear I grew like there was no tomorrow. Total DBOL growth. Of course they banned that.
Gaspari was spiking their supps? Please expand...
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There were alot of "rumors" out there. Hot Stuff was another one reported to have extra ingredients in it.
If it did in fact have clen in it, back then it was not ilegal so why not. The funniest thing was that they were in 2 cannisters because they were unstable together but when you mixed them together for a shake...then it was fine!
I don't think clen was legal back then. There would have been no reason to "spike" the supplement. They could have just advertised the product being with clenbuterol.
As far as I understand clenbuterol is an asthma med commonly prescribed in Europe, as where you get prescribed albuterol for astma here in the US. I would imagine that would not have been legal.
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Gaspari was spiking their supps? Please expand...
His superdrol and haladrol and other shit that isn't around. The stuff that made him famous.
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http://msnbc.msn.com/id/10258597/
Steroids detected in dietary supplement
Some contents contain drug linked to 2 of biggest doping scandals in history
By Amy Shipley
Washington Post
Updated: 12:02 a.m. ET Nov. 30, 2005
A dietary supplement marketed to fitness and health enthusiasts on the Internet and in body-building shops contains anabolic steroids linked to two of the biggest doping scandals in sports history, including the renowned case involving East German Olympic athletes in the 1960s and '70s, according to a prominent researcher.
The supplement, which is sold under the name Halodrol-50, contains a steroid that closely resembles Oral-Turinabol, the principal steroid used to fuel East Germany's secret, systematic sports doping program, according to Don Catlin of the UCLA Olympic Analytical Laboratory.
Catlin said it also contains DMT, or madol, a steroid federal authorities say was developed for Bay Area Laboratory Co-operative (BALCO), the California nutritional supplement company at the center of a scheme to provide prominent professional athletes with undetectable performance-enhancing drugs.
Catlin analyzed the makeup of Halodrol-50 for The Washington Post, which purchased the product on the Internet and reimbursed the Los Angeles researcher for the cost of the testing.
The discovery provides further evidence that the country's multimillion-dollar dietary supplements industry also has become a clearinghouse for the distribution of anabolic steroids, which help build muscle and speed recovery from strenuous exercise but also can cause serious health problems when used in excess.
Last month, Catlin tested five other dietary supplements obtained by The Post and found that each contained anabolic steroids, four of which had not been previously detected. The Food and Drug Administration announced after publication of The Post's story on Oct. 18 that it had opened an investigation into the four companies marketing them.
An FDA spokeswoman said yesterday that the investigation is continuing. The official declined further comment.
It is illegal to sell anabolic steroids or any unapproved drugs as dietary supplements.
Halodrol-50, which costs $50 to $80 for a bottle of 30 tablets, is marketed by Gaspari Nutrition, a dietary supplements company based in Neptune, N.J., that sells bodybuilding and weight-loss products. Halodrol-50 claims on its label to "induce maximal visible changes in size and strength in the shortest period of time possible." It also recommends that the product not be used by anyone under age 21.
The Halodrol-50 label further states that it contains polydehydrogenated, polyhydroxylated halomethetioallocholane. Catlin described that chemical descriptor as "hocus-pocus." He said the language was outdated and vague and appeared to be deliberately misleading. The label makes no mention of DMT or other anabolic steroids.
"It's obfuscation," Catlin said. "There is no attempt to be clear and concise and to describe the product for what it is."
Rich Gaspari, owner of Gaspari Nutrition, did not respond to two requests for an interview made by telephone to associates at his company. He also did not respond to two e-mail requests for comment.
However, Bruce Kneller, a consultant to Gaspari, wrote in an e-mail late yesterday that he had spoken to Gaspari and was conveying a comment on Gaspari's behalf. "The product . . . was discontinued several weeks ago after the publication of an inflammatory article in The Washington Post," Kneller said, referring to the Oct. 18 Post story. "It is no longer made or sold by Gaspari Nutrition and, in fact, was only available for less than three weeks."
Though Halodrol-50 is no longer available on the Gaspari Nutrition Web site, the product continues to be marketed on other Web sites that sell bodybuilding substances.
In an e-mail sent by a Gaspari official to a distributor, which was provided to The Post, the Gaspari official said Halodrol-50 and another product called Orastan E no longer advertised on Gaspari's Web site would continue to be sold to good customers. The Gaspari official added that he hoped "the government and media will ignore us and think we got rid of them," focusing instead on the "other companies."
Oral-Turinabol anchored the secretive doping program in communist East Germany that led to that country's emergence as an Olympic power three decades ago, according to classified documents uncovered in 1990 following the fall of the Berlin Wall. At the 1976 Summer Games in Montreal, East German women won 11 of the 13 swimming events. But the side effects from the massive doses of steroids administered to the East German competitors were as remarkable as the athletes' successes. Women developed excessive body hair, deepened voices, massive shoulders and male secondary sex characteristics.
Criminal trials in 2000 resulted in the convictions of East Germany's Olympic president and chief sports doctor, but a number of former athletes are still grappling with medical, legal and psychological issues related to the doping program.
One of the two steroids found in Halodrol-50, Catlin said, more closely resembles Oral-Turinabol than any other known steroid, but the two are not identical in structure. The steroid would be undetectable in standard drug tests because it is not an exact match with Oral-Turinabol.
"This is an unknown," Catlin said. "If I had to pick one it's ever so close to, it's Oral Turinabol. . . . It's very close."
Athletes taking Halodrol-50 would flunk standard sport drug tests, however, because DMT -- which Catlin identified more than a year ago -- is now detectable. DMT was one of three steroids found associated with BALCO. The others were norbolethone and THG, also known as "the clear."
The FDA is investigating four other dietary supplement companies named in the Oct. 18 story in which The Post reported that Catlin had found anabolic steroids in five products produced by four companies: Anabolic Xtreme, Applied Lifescience Research Industries, Legal Gear and PharmaGenX. The story led Rep. Thomas M. Davis III (R-Va.) to demand that the FDA explain its efforts to ensure that dietary supplements did not contain steroids. The FDA said in a Nov. 7 letter to Davis that the companies could face punitive action.
© 2005 The Washington Post Company
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Ah I do remember that.
That is probably a bit different than the Met Rx situation though. If a customer was buying Halodrol or Superdrol, they would be expecting to be purchasing something closer to a steroid than if they were to be buying a protein powder. Granted, from the article there were ingredients in the products not listed but it wasn't like they were spiking their protein powder or Super Pump. Regardless its not a good practice IMO.
Man of Steel going back to your first post...did you actually try the origional MetRx (2 cannisters) and if so did it actually do anything above and beyond a regular protein?
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Ah I do remember that.
That is probably a bit different than the Met Rx situation though. If a customer was buying Halodrol or Superdrol, they would be expecting to be purchasing something closer to a steroid than if they were to be buying a protein powder. Granted, from the article there were ingredients in the products not listed but it wasn't like they were spiking their protein powder or Super Pump. Regardless its not a good practice IMO.
Man of Steel going back to your first post...did you actually try the origional MetRx (2 cannisters) and if so did it actually do anything above and beyond a regular protein?
The thing with Gaspari is that he built a reputation of having products that work with products that aren't even around today.
As for the old Met-RX. It's hard to tell. I was a teen fueled by natural testosterone growing like a champ.
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I took a caffeine tablet that kept me up for 3 days wired. It must have had methampetamine in it.