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Is The Holocaust A New 'Religion' w/10 Commandments?
http://www.rense.com/general88/10com.htm
10-29-9
Jerusalem -- According to the Israeli philosophy professor Yeshayahu Leibowitz, the 'Holocaust' is a new religion. Leibowitz' countrymen Shraga Elam, Gilad Atzmon, Yoshua Shalev and others have further developed this concept, reasoning like this: Most Jews today are either atheists or shun the religion of Judaism. Therefore, the Jewish people had to adopt belief in the 'Holocaust' as their new religion. They have spread this religion all over the world. 'Holocaust' museums are the new houses of worship and are present in most major cities. The new religion has its commandments, its decrees, its prophets, its high priests, its circle of saints, its rituals and its pilgrimages. It knows neither mercy, nor forgiveness, nor clemency but only the duty of vengeance. If you question the 'Holocaust Religion', you will go to prison.
The 'Ten Commandments' of this 'Holocaust Religion' may be enunciated as follows:
1. Remember what Amalek (the Non-Jews) has done to thee.
2. Thou shalt never compare THE HOLOCAUST with any other Genocide.
3. Thou shalt never compare the Nazi crimes with those of Israel.
4. Thou shalt never doubt the number of 6 million Jewish victims.
5. Thou shalt never doubt that the majority of them died in gas chambers.
6. Thou shalt not doubt the central role of SATAN Hitler in the extermination of the Jews.
7. Thou shalt never doubt the right of Israel to exist as the Jewish state.
8. Thou shalt not criticize the leading Jewish organizations and the Israeli government.
9. Thou must never criticize Jewish organizations and the Zionist leadership for abandoning the European Jewry in the Nazi era
10. Thou shalt take these commandments literally and never shew mercy to them that doubt!
LEIBOWITZ, YESHAYAHU (19031994)
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0012_0_12084.html (http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0012_0_12084.html) Gilad Atzmon: I am - too - a Holocaust Survivor (2009-10-27)
http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=35290 (http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=35290)
The Holocaust as a new catholic dogma:
http://truthisbeauty.wordpress.com/2009/02/04/the-holocaust-is-now-catholic-dogma/
http://www.dullophob.com/
(http://truthisbeauty.wordpress.com/2009/02/04/the-holocaust-is-now-catholic-dogma/
http://www.dullophob.com/)
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samson, are you serious? This was published by Deutsche Bank http://www.db.com/ Or did you just make that up?
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Samson123, do you believe the holocaust didn't happen too?
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Here we go...O throws a grenade into the crowded room.
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samson, are you serious? This was published by Deutsche Bank http://www.db.com/ Or did you just make that up?
You think I wrote this? If you look under the headline of the article you can see the DB.COM address where this came from. This article was sent to me and I just posted it.
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Samson123, do you believe the holocaust didn't happen too?
Do you know if it did? Professors and investigators around the world even at major universities are saying otherwise...Present your evidence it happened.
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Having had family liberate camps....camps that actually were both death camps and in Germany (barry)..having seen two...and the overwhelming evidence provided by the Germans themselves..I'd say it happened. its not up to us ur moronic ct moonbat, to prove this horrible event happened. Its up to u anti-semetic pieces of shit to prove otherwise.
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Do you know if it did? Professors and investigators around the world even at major universities are saying otherwise...Present your evidence it happened.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I knew it!
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Stop poking the malnourished ethiopian "white hater"....ok keep poking. ;D ;D ;D
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This guy rotates between three topics: the holocaust and Israel/NWO/Rothschilds, China's soon to be #1 status in the world and how whites suck and ruin everything. A gimmick that exists for no other reason than to make inflammatory comments.
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Having had family liberate camps....camps that actually were both death camps and in Germany (barry)..having seen two...and the overwhelming evidence provided by the Germans themselves..I'd say it happened. its not up to us ur moronic ct moonbat, to prove this horrible event happened. Its up to u anti-semetic pieces of shit to prove otherwise.
YES it is up to you to prove it happened because as it stands with photo and video archive showing otherwise I can not believe such a thing occured. Secondly given Germany's war with Russia, Poland, France, England, Switzerland etc etc...I find it hard to believe while all of this was going on the Germans had time to round up 6 million people, build camps, put them supposedly to work, then for no apparent reason procede to gas them, bury them, dig them up, then burn them, then pulverize the bones yadda yadda yadda.
Add to this the stories of holocaust camps that have been told over the years by various supposed camp survivors all of which tuned out to be LIES...
BTW how many other people were killed during WWII??? How come the French, Swiss, Poles, Hungarians, English etc etc are not whinning endlessly as well? They too lost MILLIONS of people and livelihood....
How come th estudy of the history of any country, religion, people, race, culture etc is OK, but if one investigates the supposed holocaust IT'S A BAD THING!!!!!
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Do you know if it did? Professors and investigators around the world even at major universities are saying otherwise...Present your evidence it happened.
General George s. Patton Jr, said it did and by all accounts he witnseesed the one of the camps and made the towns people clean it up.
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YES it is up to you to prove it happened because as it stands with photo and video archive showing otherwise I can not believe such a thing occured. Secondly given Germany's war with Russia, Poland, France, England, Switzerland etc etc...I find it hard to believe while all of this was going on the Germans had time to round up 6 million people, build camps, put them supposedly to work, then for no apparent reason procede to gas them, bury them, dig them up, then burn them, then pulverize the bones yadda yadda yadda.
Add to this the stories of holocaust camps that have been told over the years by various supposed camp survivors all of which tuned out to be LIES...
BTW how many other people were killed during WWII??? How come the French, Swiss, Poles, Hungarians, English etc etc are not whinning endlessly as well? They too lost MILLIONS of people and livelihood....
Actually they do whine. I've met one of my better friend's cousin from Poland and he absolutely despised Germans and everything that had to do with them. And he said that's pretty common over in Poland. I'm sure it's not much different with countries like Russia and the others who suffered.
Stop trying to spin crap as if you have any idea of what you're talking about.
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Um...no u fucking retard its not. Ur in the minority as usual with this crap...also despite ur best efforts...white people are realy smart and the Germans in particular, are very organized. It was easay to run em up and then send em to ovens that ran day and night for years..average stay in Auschwitz...47 minutes. ur an idiot.
The Jewish population remained temporarily unmolested shortly after the fighting. Only weeks, sometimes months later, specially detached formations of the police executed a planned shooting of Jews. The action as a rule proceeded from east to west. It was done entirely in public with the use of the Ukrainian militia, and unfortunately in many instances also with members of the armed forces taking part voluntarily. The way these actions, which included men and old men, women, and children of all ages were carried out was horrible. The great masses executed make this-action more gigantic than any similar measure taken so far in the Soviet Union. So far about 150,000 to 200,000 Jews may have been [Page 1004] executed in the part of the Ukraine belonging to the Reichskommissariat; no consideration was given to the interests of economy.
"Summarizing, it can be said that the kind of solution of the Jewish problem applied in the Ukraine which obviously was based on the ideological theories as a matter of principle had the following results:
"(a) Elimination of a part of partly superfluous eaters in the cities. "(b) Elimination of a part of the population which hated us undoubtedly. "(c) Elimination of badly needed tradesmen who were in many instances indispensable even in the interests of the armed forces. "(d) Consequences as to foreign policy -- propaganda which are obvious. "(e) Bad effects on the troops which in any case get indirect contact with the executions. "(f) Brutalizing effect on the formations which carry out the execution -- regular police." (3257-PS)
Lest it be thought that these conditions existed only in the East, the official Netherlands government report by the Commissioner for Repatriation as relates similar treatment of the Jews in the West (1726-PS). The German measures taken against the Dutch Jews -- discriminatory decrees, anti- semitic demonstrations, burning of synagogues, purging of Jews from the economic life of their country, food restrictions, forced labor, concentration camp confinement, deportation, and death -- all these measures follow the same pattern that was effected throughout Nazi-occupied Europe. The official Netherlands report states that full Jews, liable to deportation, numbered 140,000. The total number of actual Jewish deportees was 117,000, representing more than eighty-three per cent of all the Jews in the Netherlands. Of these, 115,000 were deported to Poland for slave labor, and after departure all trace of them was lost. Regardless of victory or defeat to Germany, the Jew was doomed. It was the expressed intent of the Nazi state that whatever the German fate might be the Jew would not survive. (1726-PS) A Top Secret message from the commandant of the SIPO and SD for the Radom District, addressed to SS Hauptsturmfuehrer Thiel on the subject, "Clearance of Prisons," reads as follows:
"I again stress the fact that the number of inmates of the SIPO and SD prisons must be kept as low as possible. In the [Page 1005] present situation, particularly, those suspects handed over by the civil police need only be subjected to a short, formal interrogation, provided there are no serious grounds for suspicion. They are then to be sent by the quickest route to a concentration camp, should no court martial proceeding be necessary or should there be no question of discharge. Please keep the number of discharges very low. Should the situation at the front necessitate it, early preparations are to be made for the total clearance of prisons. Should the situation develop suddenly in such a way that it is impossible to evacuate the prisoners, the prison inmates are to be liquidated and their bodies disposed of as far as possible (burning, blowing up the building, etc.). If necessary, Jews still employed in the armament industry or on other work are to be dealt with in the same way.
"The liberation of prisoners or Jews by the enemy, be it the WB [perhaps means 'West-Bund,' or 'Western Ally'] or the Red Army, must be avoided under all circumstances, nor may they fall into their hands alive." (L-53) (3) Mass Disposal of Jews in Concentration Camps. The concentration camps were utilized to dispose of literally millions of Jews, who died by mass shooting, gas, poison, starvation, and other means. The part which the concentration camps played in the annihilation of the Jewish people is indicated in an official Polish report on Auschwitz Concentration Camp (L-161). In Auschwitz during July 1944 Jews were killed at the rate of 12,000 daily: "*** During July 1944, they were being liquidated at the rate of 12,000 Hungarian Jews daily, and as the crematory could not deal with such numbers, many bodies were thrown into large pits and covered with quick lime." (L-161) The official Polish Government Commission Report on the Investigation of German crimes in Poland describes the concentration camp at Treblinka in these terms: "*** In March 1942, the Germans began to erect another camp, Treblinka B, in the neighborhood of Treblinka A, intended to become a place of torment for Jews. "The erection of this camp was closely connected with the German plans aiming at a complete destruction of the Jewish population in Poland which necessitated the creation of a machinery by means of which the Polish Jews could be killed in large numbers. Late in April 1942, the erection of the first three chambers was finished in which these general massacres [Page 1006] were to be performed by means of steam. Somewhat later the erection of the real death building was finished, which contains ten death chambers. It was opened for wholesale murders early in autumn 1942 ***." (3311-PS)
The report of the Polish commission describes graphically the procedure for extermination within the camp: "*** The average number of Jews dealt with at the camp in summer 1942 was about two railway transports daily, but there were days of much higher efficiency. From autumn 1942 this number was falling.
"After unloading in the siding all victims were assembled in one place where men were separated from women and children. In the first days of the existence of the camp the victims were made to believe that after a short stay in the camp, necessary for bathing and disinfection, they would be sent farther east, for work. Explanations of this sort were given by SS men who assisted at the unloading of the transports and further explanations could be read in notices stuck up on the walls of the barracks. But later, when more transports had to be dealt with, the Germans dropped all pretenses and only tried to accelerate the procedure. "All victims had to strip off their clothes and shoes, which were collected afterwards, whereupon all victims, women and children first, were driven into the death chambers. Those too slow or too weak to move quickly were driven on by rifle butts, by whipping and kicking, often by Sauer himself. Many slipped and fell, the next victims pressed forward and stumbled over them. Small children were simply thrown inside. After being filled up to capacity the chambers were hermetically closed and steam was let in. In a few minutes all was over. The Jewish menial workers had to remove the bodies from the platform and to bury them in mass graves. By and by, as new transports arrived, the -cemetery grew, extending in eastern direction. "From reports received, it may be assumed that several hundred thousands of Jews have been exterminated in Treblinka." (3311-PS)
An official United States government report issued by the Executive Office of the President of the United States, War Refugee Board, on the German camps at Auschwitz and Birkenau, sets forth the number of Jews gassed in Birkenau in the two year period between April 1942 and April 1944. The figure printed in this report is not a typographical error. The number is 1,765,000. (L-22)
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Actually they do whine. I've met one of my better friend's cousin from Poland and that absolutely despised Germans and everything that had to do with them. And he said that's pretty common over in Poland. I'm sure it's not much different with countries like Russia and the others who suffered.
Stop trying to spin crap as if you have any idea of what you're talking about.
How am I spinning anything??? I am responding to your posts and if anything it is you who is spinning things. I am talking about the topic of the post at hand. All of a sudden claims of being anti semite (you should look that up..becasue you;re all wrong), holocaust denier etc etc is being thrown in my face. Again I did not write the article...it is not my opinion even though it is true.
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Samson, why did you attribute this publication to Deutsche Bank? Do you have a link?
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How am I spinning anything??? I am responding to your posts and if anything it is you who is spinning things. I am talking about the topic of the post at hand. All of a sudden claims of being anti semite (you should look that up..becasue you;re all wrong), holocaust denier etc etc is being thrown in my face. Again I did not write the article...it is not my opinion even though it is true.
No one is accusing you of being a holocaust denier as you did that yourself. Just look through your post history and there is more than one quote of you denying it or making a statement along those lines.
You're an inflammatory gimmick that was run off the G&O and then run off of here. Every four of five months you find your nuts and pop up for a month or two to stir shit up before disappearing again.
You need some new topics. The Chinese supremacy, Israeli/Jew, death of America and whites shit is getting old.
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No one is accusing you of being a holocaust denier as you did that yourself. Just look through your post history and there is more than one quote of you denying it or making a statement along those lines.
You're an inflammatory gimmick that was run off the G&O and then run off of here. Every four of five months you find your nuts and pop up for a month or two to stir shit up before disappearing again.
You need some new topics. The Chinese supremacy, Israeli/Jew, death of America and whites shit is getting old.
Patton wrote the death camps in his autobiography. His word is good enough for me.
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Samson, why did you attribute this publication to Deutsche Bank? Do you have a link?
Put the Gunja down Hugo...It is YOU who said this
Quote from: Hugo Chavez on Today at 01:51:16 PM
samson, are you serious? This was published by Deutsche Bank http://www.db.com/ Or did you just make that up?
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Patton wrote the death camps in his autobiography. His word is good enough for me.
Major Winters is good enough for me too.
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Put the Gunja down Hugo...It is YOU who said this
uh, it's you who put a link to them:
Is The Holocaust A New 'Religion' w/10 Commandments?
Db.com
10-29-9
Db.com IS the Deutsche Bank website.
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No one is accusing you of being a holocaust denier as you did that yourself. Just look through your post history and there is more than one quote of you denying it or making a statement along those lines.
You're an inflammatory gimmick that was run off the G&O and then run off of here. Every four of five months you find your nuts and pop up for a month or two to stir shit up before disappearing again.
You need some new topics. The Chinese supremacy, Israeli/Jew, death of America and whites shit is getting old.
CALM DOWN BEATRICE you're getting you r hair all up in a fuss over nothing. You see how this works. Anything can be talked about: races, religions, politics, weather, finances...BUT ALL ONE HAS TO DO IS BRING UP A JEWISH THING AND TEMPERS FLARE...How come?
BTW I was never thrown off or run off of any G&O board etc...Defend your point, but don't LIE
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uh, it's you who put a link to them:
Is The Holocaust A New 'Religion' w/10 Commandments?
Db.com
10-29-9
Db.com IS the Deutsche Bank website.
I didn't put anythign anywhere I merely cut and pasted the article from an e-mail that was sent to me. If the article included the DB.COM link it is NOT because I put it in there, it is because it was in there. So be ANGRY with Deutche Bank ...Not Me
I found a copy of the article at Rense. I don't know if this is the original source but here it is..
http://www.rense.com/general88/10com.htm
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CALM DOWN BEATRICE you're getting you r hair all up in a fuss over nothing. You see how this works. Anything can be talked about: races, religions, politics, weather, finances...BUT ALL ONE HAS TO DO IS BRING UP A JEWISH THING AND TEMPERS FLARE...How come?
BTW I was never thrown off or run off of any G&O board etc...Defend your point, but don't LIE
Nice meltdown. And you're insinuating that I'm angry? I personally couldn't care less about the holocaust and took this as yet another opportunity to expose you for the rambling retard that you are.
You go ape shit anytime minorities are brought up. Your 5,000 word meltdowns about how much whites suck and how blacks/Muslims are superior are hilarious.
You consistently rotate through the same three topics in your quest to stir shit up. It's old. Give it a rest. Time for you to fade away again.
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Nice meltdown. And you're insinuating that I'm angry? I personally couldn't care less about the holocaust and took this as yet another opportunity to expose you for the rambling retard that you are.
You go ape shit anytime minorities are brought up. Your 5,000 word meltdowns about how much whites suck and how blacks/Muslims are superior are hilarious.
You consistently rotate through the same three topics in your quest to stir shit up. It's old. Give it a rest. Time for you to fade away again.
One trick pony for sure...
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One trick pony for sure...
You sure are. Time to slink off and lick your wounds, sunshine. Maybe fire off a few dozen posts about aliens shooting meteors out of the sky with laser beams? Haha.
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All of a sudden claims of being anti semite (you should look that up..becasue you;re all wrong), holocaust denier etc etc is being thrown in my face.
...as it stands with photo and video archive showing otherwise I can not believe such a thing occured.
I find it hard to believe while all of this was going on the Germans had time to round up 6 million people, build camps, put them supposedly to work, then for no apparent reason procede to gas them, bury them, dig them up, then burn them, then pulverize the bones yadda yadda yadda.
Add to this the stories of holocaust camps that have been told over the years by various supposed camp survivors all of which tuned out to be LIES...
I don't know if you're anti-Semetic, but I think it's fair to say you are a holocaust denier.
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Hmmmmm..This is somehow OK...
Jewish Comic Insults Millions of Christians
October 28, 2009
by Henry Makow Ph.D.
In the most recent episode of "Curb You Enthusiasm", Larry David has a "toilet accident" which expresses contempt for Jesus, Christianity and millions of Christians.
The set-up is improbable. David is at the home of his Christian assistant "Maureen." He is on some kind of medication which causes him to lose control while urinating. He "accidentally" sprays a portrait of Christ on the bathroom wall. When Maureen and her mother notice a drop on Jesus' face, they mistake it for a tear. They think it's a miracle and bow down and pray.
1. No Christian would keep a portrait of Jesus in the bathroom. Only an arrogant, disrespectful, ignorant person like Larry David could imagine that.
2. No writer with respect for human dignity and decorum talks about toilet accidents. What is this childish fetish comedy writers have with bodily and sexual functions? Is this the last taboo?
3. This scene would be classified as a hate crime if it were aimed at anyone but Christians. Imagine the reaction if he peed on a Menorah, an Israeli flag or a Koran? I don't believe this scene is an accident. It's a deliberate attack on the Christian majority, designed to humiliate, shame and disinherit.
CHRISTIAN REACTION
Christians were not impressed. Bill Donohue, president of the Catholic League, responded, "Would he think it's comedic if someone urinated on a picture of his mother?"
I don't think he cares about his mother. But what if we went to his office and peed on his Emmy?
Deal Hudson, author and publisher of InsideCatholic.com said an apology from the show's producers and writing team should be issued. "Why is it that people are allowed to publicly show that level of disrespect for Christian symbols? If the same thing was done to a symbol of any other religions -- Jewish or Muslim -- there'd be a huge outcry. It's simply not a level playing field."
This is not the first time Christ has been blasphemed in this fashion. In 1987 a photographer won a publicly- funded prize for a picture of a crucifix with Jesus submerged in a vat of urine. It was called "Piss Christ."
JEWISH HATRED
The fear of "Anti-Semitism" disguises what is in fact a long-term hatred of Christ and Christian civilization on the part of certain Jews. The Talmud imagines Christ as an illegitimate son of a whore and a Roman soldier. He is condemned to boil in a vat of excrement. Some Orthodox Jews are taught to spit whenever they see a cross or pass a church. During the Intifada, Israeli soldiers shot up statues of Christ and Mary in Bethlehem.
Jews who don't share these sentiments must realize that Larry David discredits and jeopardizes all Jews. Whatever we think of Church dogma, Christ taught that God is Love. Why do some Jews find this so threatening?
Because it is universal. Jewish ideology is elitist. They are the Chosen people. They want to be worshiped. They died in the holocaust for your sins. The Old Testament includes visions of all other nations giving up their property and serving them.
CONCLUSION
Throughout history, mankind has striven to raise itself above the level of an animal. True religions have always maintained that man is made in God's image. We have to obey our highest instincts and tame our lowest.
Unfortunately, too often, it has been Jews who have undermined this process. They have labeled self-discipline as "repression," and taught destructive self-indulgence in the name of spurious "freedom."
Too often, certain Jews have equated rebellion against God (the natural and spiritual order) with being fully "human." Their God is really Lucifer, and like Lucifer, they are metaphysical outcasts. They are helping to subvert God's Plan, one of the major causes of anti-Semitism.
Larry David is a comic genius. But, his shtick is making fun of the selfishness of some Jews. As we have seen in Gaza and Lebanon, it isn't always funny.
We become what we believe in. We can believe that God is Love and we were made in His image, and become lovable creatures. Or we can believe in money, sex and power, and have the mean and petty lives we do.
If you want to tell HBO what you think, here is their contact information.
BUT THIS ISN'T
France fines black comic for anti-Semitism
(AFP) – 2 days ago
PARIS — French judges ordered a far-right black comedian to pay 20,000 euros (30,000 dollars) Tuesday over an anti-Semitic stunt during a stage show in which he invited a notorious Holocaust denier onto stage.
The Paris court fined Dieudonne M'bala M'bala, a 43-year-old French stand up, 10,000 euros for his "public anti-Semitic insults" and told him to pay a further 10,000 in damages and legal fees to organisations that sued him.
He was prosecuted after he invited Robert Faurisson, an academic who has been convicted of Holocaust denial, onto stage during a Paris comedy show to receive a satirical award from an actor dressed as a Jewish deportee.
The comic admitted at the hearing that the show had been a "comedy bomb attack" but defended his right to free expression. Anti-racism and Jewish defence organisations welcomed the verdict.
Dieudonne, a former anti-racism campaigner whose father was Cameroonian, often courts controversy and this year tried to enter politics by standing for the European parliament as head of an "anti-Zionist" party.
In September 2007, Dieudonne was fined after he accused Jews of exploiting "memorial pornography" and attacked a "Zionist lobby which cultivates the idea of their unique suffering ... and has declared war on the black world."
Two months later he was back in court and was fined 5,000 euros for having compared Jews to "slave-traders".
He remains under investigation over a video circulating on the Internet in which he appears to attack a "yid Zionist lobby" led by "racist liars".
For June's European election, Dieudonne and Alain Soral, a former member of Jean-Marie Le Pen's National Front, formed a party to argue that the world's ills are caused by Zionist Jews and their Anglo-Saxon allies.
Officials expressed fears that the comedian's campaign might stir communal tensions in France's notoriously combustible city suburbs, but the party won only 1.3 percent of votes in the Paris region and had little impact.
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That episode of Curb was absolutely hilarious. If you've ever watched the show or Seinfeld, Larry David has made dozens of jokes about all religions, including Judaism. Christians, like their idiotic brethren in the other religions, like to cry about everything.
You're grasping here.
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That episode of Curb was absolutely hilarious. If you've ever watched the show or Seinfeld, Larry David has made dozens of jokes about all religions, including Judaism. Christians, like their idiotic brethren in the other religions, like to cry about everything.
You're grasping EXPOSING here.
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