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I thought Palin had such a great pull on Facebook that she was going to get him victory?
Democrat Bill Owens may have won last night's special election in New York's 23rd congressional district - but Sarah Palin said Wednesday that race "is not over."
Writing on Facebook early Wednesday morning, the former Alaska governor praised Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman and "all the other under-dog candidates who have the courage to put themselves out there and run against the odds."
"The race for New York's 23rd District is not over, just postponed until 2010," Palin wrote. "The issues of this election have always centered on the economy – on the need for fiscal restraint, smaller government, and policies that encourage jobs. In 2010, these issues will be even more crucial to the electorate."
So let me get this right. The sure thing is now an 'underdog' and when you lose it's not a loss just a postponement? So i guess German just postponed WW2 and they are waiting to strike.
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I thought Palin had such a great pull on Facebook that she was going to get him victory?
Democrat Bill Owens may have won last night's special election in New York's 23rd congressional district - but Sarah Palin said Wednesday that race "is not over."
Writing on Facebook early Wednesday morning, the former Alaska governor praised Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman and "all the other under-dog candidates who have the courage to put themselves out there and run against the odds."
"The race for New York's 23rd District is not over, just postponed until 2010," Palin wrote. "The issues of this election have always centered on the economy – on the need for fiscal restraint, smaller government, and policies that encourage jobs. In 2010, these issues will be even more crucial to the electorate."
So let me get this right. The sure thing is now an 'underdog' and when you lose it's not a loss just a postponement? So i guess German just postponed WW2 and they are waiting to strike.
The conservative newcomber with little or no funding 30 days before the election got 46% and scozzafave got 6%/.
The RAT got 49%. You call that a victory? If Hoffman were campaiging for a year and had the RNC money he would have won huge.
In my county of Westchester and Nassau in LI, both huge blue areas, the Dems were all thrown out on their asses.
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I'm sorry but didn't you post here Palin was going to get him to victory? That it was proof of Palin's influence? That was you right posting under your account?
Now you want to wipe away the tears and pretend a loss is a win? I guess quitting is winning too in your twisted world.
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I'm sorry but didn't you post here Palin was going to get him to victory? That it was proof of Palin's influence? That was you right posting under your account?
Now you want to wipe away the tears and pretend a loss is a win? I guess quitting is winning too in your twisted world.
Wait till next year fool. Hoffman is not even a politicians has never even run before and is a boring candidate.
In liberal Westchester & liberal Nassau county, VA, NJ, the voters voted out the corrupt failed dems.
2010 is going to be a bloodbath and the GOP will take back the house.
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Wait till next year fool. Hoffman is not even a politicians has never even run before and is a boring candidate.
In liberal Westchester & liberal Nassau county, VA, NJ, the voters voted out the corrupt failed dems.
2010 is going to be a bloodbath and the GOP will take back the house.
Wait till next year now? What happened to Palin's pull though? Wasn't she gonna 'go rouge' or something and win him this election?
Wasn't this suppose to be the first step? More like first miss-step.
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Wait till next year now? What happened to Palin's pull though? Wasn't she gonna 'go rouge' or something and win him this election?
Wasn't this suppose to be the first step? More like first miss-step.
Did you know what happened in NJ and VA?
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Did you know what happened in NJ and VA?
But wasn't NY-23 the race Palin was involved in? You did post on that right? As to her public prowess and that she was gonna help this guy win. It didn't work out though. How come? Isn't she really popular? Don't lots of people read her facebook?
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But wasn't NY-23 the race Palin was involved in? You did post on that right? As to her public prowess and that she was gonna help this guy win. It didn't work out though. How come? Isn't she really popular? Don't lots of people read her facebook?
And wasnt the races in NJ & VA - Obama heavily involved in?
He went to NJ five times!
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I'm sorry but didn't you post here Palin was going to get him to victory? That it was proof of Palin's influence? That was you right posting under your account?
Now you want to wipe away the tears and pretend a loss is a win? I guess quitting is winning too in your twisted world.
Im sorry but didnt you say that the govt not funding abortions was circumventing the law? ;)
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Im sorry but didnt you say that the govt not funding abortions was circumventing the law? ;)
Not at all, nice try though. I said it is a push towards circumventing the law when you fund health care without abortion but not with. That is a not so subtle nudge and attempt to.
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And wasnt the races in NJ & VA - Obama heavily involved in?
He went to NJ five times!
But this is about Palin not Obama. You claimed she would influence this race into a GOP victory. It didn't happen and you try to mask it with what happened else where.
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But this is about Palin not Obama. You claimed she would influence this race into a GOP victory. It didn't happen and you try to mask it with what happened else where.
The anti-dem vote was 51%.
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Not at all, nice try though. I said it is a push towards circumventing the law when you fund health care without abortion but not with. That is a not so subtle nudge and attempt to.
Roe vs. Wade said nothing about govt funded abortion...THINK BEFORE YOU TYPE
if they said they wanted to outlaw abortion it would be another thing they arent preventing anybody from getting an abortion.
again plastic surgery is elective should we cover that in the health care bill?
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The anti-dem vote was 51%.
But did he win? I mean that is the measure of success is it not? To the victor go the spoils.
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Roe vs. Wade said nothing about govt funded abortion...THINK BEFORE YOU TYPE
if they said they wanted to outlaw abortion it would be another thing they arent preventing anybody from getting an abortion.
again plastic surgery is elective should we cover that in the health care bill?
Most plastic surgery is actually covered you are thinking of cosmetic surgery.
Like i said and i stand by. It's a push, nudge, whatever you want to call it towards making abortion harder for people. It's a step in the direction they wish to take as a party.
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I thought Palin had such a great pull on Facebook that she was going to get him victory?
Democrat Bill Owens may have won last night's special election in New York's 23rd congressional district - but Sarah Palin said Wednesday that race "is not over."
Writing on Facebook early Wednesday morning, the former Alaska governor praised Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman and "all the other under-dog candidates who have the courage to put themselves out there and run against the odds."
"The race for New York's 23rd District is not over, just postponed until 2010," Palin wrote. "The issues of this election have always centered on the economy – on the need for fiscal restraint, smaller government, and policies that encourage jobs. In 2010, these issues will be even more crucial to the electorate."
So let me get this right. The sure thing is now an 'underdog' and when you lose it's not a loss just a postponement? So i guess German just postponed WW2 and they are waiting to strike.
Are you joking?Lets see,the guy was not even in the running a month out from the election.Palin endorsed him and what happened?The republican got out of the race and the pary got behind the person Palin,not Gingrich,not Boehnoir[spelling]not the establishment wanted,but who SHE wanted.
Now,on the ballot,Scuzzafano was on there twice as the republican AND and as the independant.The democrat was on the ballot twice as the democrat and the workers party candidate.Hoffman appeared on the ballot once on the conservative line.
Second,Scuzzafano was liberal.When she dropped out and endorsed the democrat where do you think her supporters went?
So,lets see,Palin endorsed an unknown,with no money,no support,no name recognition,in so doing ,she forced a "republican" out of the race and out of the party.The unkown who she supported almost won the race,despite being on the ballot only once against "4 others".Id say she proved herself to be a powerplayer yet again.Now,the guy in New Jersey ,who was established,and Obama campaigned for got beat soundly!Where was his pull?
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Most plastic surgery is actually covered you are thinking of cosmetic surgery.
Like i said and i stand by. It's a push, nudge, whatever you want to call it towards making abortion harder for people. It's a step in the direction they wish to take as a party.
It wouldnt make it any harder than it is now, you dumb ass
how is it making any harder than it is now? its not so its not a push or nudge if anything by that logic your idiotic lib buddies are trying to make it easier and reps are saying it shouldnt be made easier...
ok call it cosmetic surgery you know what i meant should the health care bill cover that as well? after all its legal and now allowing it would circumvent the law ::)
LOL KC if you just want to say you spoke before you thought it through and leave it at that i would be ok with it
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Oh... the NY-23 race? Not important. Let's talk about something else. Never mind the only Congress seat that the GOP could grab went to a Dem. That is a win for the Repubs. How? Um... I don't know, but hey what about VA and NJ? You heard about that yet? Let's talk about that instead of the NY-23 race.
Please?
*insert random picture*
(there you have it.... 333 generic answer condensed)
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Oh... the NY-23 race? Not important. Let's talk about something else. Never mind the only Congress seat that the GOP could grab went to a Dem. That is a win for the Repubs. How? Um... I don't know, but hey what about VA and NJ? You heard about that yet? Let's talk about that instead of the NY-23 race.
Please?
*insert random picture*
(there you have it.... 333 generic answer condensed)
HERE ARE A FEW THAT FIT YOU PERFECTLY:
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It would be nice if you at least had some new ones.
Instead of something that has been posted a gazillion times before. But oh well.... you have to work with what you got I suppose.
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How about this?
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Oh... the NY-23 race? Not important. Let's talk about something else. Never mind the only Congress seat that the GOP could grab went to a Dem. That is a win for the Repubs. How? Um... I don't know, but hey what about VA and NJ? You heard about that yet? Let's talk about that instead of the NY-23 race.
Please?
*insert random picture*
(there you have it.... 333 generic answer condensed)
It was important,but it wasnt as cut and dry as the libs make it out.I see the "Palin and Rush lost" libs out there,either not understanding or purposely spinning it.The consevative lost,but in the process we drove a fake republican out of the party.So,it certainly wasnt a win,but it did have a small silver linning to it.The grass roots spoke and put down the establishments candidate.
Now,Id say an election that had a few thousand people voting wasnt as much of a statement as two elections that had about 7,000,000 voting in it.
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It was important,but it wasnt as cut and dry as the libs make it out.I see the "Palin and Rush lost" libs out there,either not understanding or purposely spinning it.The consevative lost,but in the process we drove a fake republican out of the party.So,it certainly wasnt a win,but it did have a small silver linning to it.The grass roots spoke and put down the establishments candidate.
Now,Id say an election that had a few thousand people voting wasnt as much of a statement as two elections that had about 7,000,000 voting in it.
These libs are amazing:
Palin endorses the guy on a facebook posting, never visits the location, never goes on TV etc for this guy, and they are hanging this on her, and the dem did not even get 50%.
HOWEVER
Obama goes to VA & NJ multiple times, appears with these people, GETS TROUNCED AND DESTROYED, and yet Lurker and Mons dont hang that on him.
HOW DOES THAT WORK?
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Perhaps Palin shouldn't have endorsed him.
Looks like you and her have something in common. Your predictions never pan out.
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Perhaps Palin shouldn't have endorsed him.
Looks like you and her have something in common. Your predictions never pan out.
Like what Lurker?
1. Stimulus - FAIL
2. C4C - FAIL
3. VA & NJ - GOP WIN
4. CAP & TRADE - DOA
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It's kind of amazing that the Tea Baggers wear their ingorance as a badge of honor. To them it seems like being ignorant and loud is some sort of good quality yet it only seems to resonate with other brain dead Tea Baggers
Hoffman was basically a Tea Party candidate. He was completely clueless on the local issues (kind of like Palin on national issues) and thought he could just run on a far right wing social agenda and people would just fall in line. Luckily the voters were smart enough to realize that Hoffman would be representing the interests of the Tea Baggers and Glenn Beck and not the actual constituents on NY 23.
Check this out from a local paper:
Mr. Hoffman had no opinion about winter navigation and widening the St. Lawrence Seaway with their potential environmental damage. He was not familiar with the repercussions of a proposed federal energy marketing agency for the Great Lakes, which could pay for Seaway expansion contrary to district interests.
A flustered and ill-at-ease Mr. Hoffman objected to the heated questioning, saying he should have been provided a list of questions he might be asked. He was, if he had taken the time to read the Thursday morning Times editorial raising the very same questions.[/b]
Coming to Mr. Hoffman's defense, former House Majority Leader Dick Armey, R-Texas, who accompanied the candidate on a campaign swing, dismissed regional concerns as "parochial" issues that would not determine the outcome of the election. On the contrary, it is just such parochial issues that we expect our representative to understand and be knowledgeable about, if he wants to be our voice in Washington.
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Perhaps Palin shouldn't have endorsed him.
Looks like you and her have something in common. Your predictions never pan out.
If she didnt he wouldnt have gotten 5% of the vote.Just like McCain wouldnt have gotten 20% of the vote without her.Now,perhaps Obama should have stayed FAR away from Virginia and New Jersey as his guys got crushed.
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If she didnt he wouldnt have gotten 5% of the vote.Just like McCain wouldnt have gotten 20% of the vote without her.Now,perhaps Obama should have stayed FAR away from Virginia and New Jersey as his guys got crushed.
I correctly predicted the FAILURE of the stim bill, C4C, the cap & trade garbage, etc.
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It's kind of amazing that the Tea Baggers wear their ingorance as a badge of honor. To them it seems like being ignorant and loud is some sort of good quality yet it only seems to resonate with other brain dead Tea Baggers
Hoffman was basically a Tea Party candidate. He was completely clueless on the local issues (kind of like Palin on national issues) and thought he could just run on a far right wing social agenda and people would just fall in line. Luckily the voters were smart enough to realize that Hoffman would be representing the interests of the Tea Baggers and Glenn Beck and not the actual constituents on NY 23.
Check this out from a local paper:
Mr. Hoffman had no opinion about winter navigation and widening the St. Lawrence Seaway with their potential environmental damage. He was not familiar with the repercussions of a proposed federal energy marketing agency for the Great Lakes, which could pay for Seaway expansion contrary to district interests.
A flustered and ill-at-ease Mr. Hoffman objected to the heated questioning, saying he should have been provided a list of questions he might be asked. He was, if he had taken the time to read the Thursday morning Times editorial raising the very same questions.[/b]
Coming to Mr. Hoffman's defense, former House Majority Leader Dick Armey, R-Texas, who accompanied the candidate on a campaign swing, dismissed regional concerns as "parochial" issues that would not determine the outcome of the election. On the contrary, it is just such parochial issues that we expect our representative to understand and be knowledgeable about, if he wants to be our voice in Washington.
This is whats so amusing about you libs.You can call names like "TEA BAGGERS" [OF COURSE never TO ANYONES FACE !!!!!!!!]but you get all upset if I call Obama a spook.Lets see,calling people a name that implys they like balls on chin,or calling a black a guy a slur thats been in exisance for a hundread years?Id say you people are the biggest bunch of thin skinned babies Ive ever seen.
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I correctly predicted the FAILURE of the stim bill, C4C, the cap & trade garbage, etc.
Oh... what about your predictions of the 9-12 numbers, the Obama thesis, NY-23, America becoming Zombieland USA with the survival of the fittest going on, Palin's future in politics, etc.. etc.. etc..
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It's kind of amazing that the Tea Baggers wear their ingorance as a badge of honor. To them it seems like being ignorant and loud is some sort of good quality yet it only seems to resonate with other brain dead Tea Baggers
Hoffman was basically a Tea Party candidate. He was completely clueless on the local issues (kind of like Palin on national issues) and thought he could just run on a far right wing social agenda and people would just fall in line. Luckily the voters were smart enough to realize that Hoffman would be representing the interests of the Tea Baggers and Glenn Beck and not the actual constituents on NY 23.
Check this out from a local paper:
Mr. Hoffman had no opinion about winter navigation and widening the St. Lawrence Seaway with their potential environmental damage. He was not familiar with the repercussions of a proposed federal energy marketing agency for the Great Lakes, which could pay for Seaway expansion contrary to district interests.
A flustered and ill-at-ease Mr. Hoffman objected to the heated questioning, saying he should have been provided a list of questions he might be asked. He was, if he had taken the time to read the Thursday morning Times editorial raising the very same questions.[/b]
Coming to Mr. Hoffman's defense, former House Majority Leader Dick Armey, R-Texas, who accompanied the candidate on a campaign swing, dismissed regional concerns as "parochial" issues that would not determine the outcome of the election. On the contrary, it is just such parochial issues that we expect our representative to understand and be knowledgeable about, if he wants to be our voice in Washington.
And he still got 46% in a district that voted for obama after only 30 days of campainiging and no previous experience. The dem got 49%. If you are trying to say this was some massive win or loss either way you are delusional.
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Oh... what about your predictions of the 9-12 numbers, the Obama thesis, NY-23, America becoming Zombieland USA with the survival of the fittest going on, Palin's future in politics, etc.. etc.. etc..
I did not predict anything, I was reporting what i read on tyher 9/12 numbers.
Obama's thesis is still under wraps because HE REFUSES TO RELEASE IT!
NY-23 was close and only three points apart.
America is breaking down piece by piece. Maybe not where you live, but many areas UE and crime are rising fast as well as ghost malls and empty shopping centers.
Palin has a bright future no matter what she does.
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"Getting bigger by the day"
Referring to your predictions.
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"Getting bigger by the day"
Referring to your predictions.
Yes it is. Thousands went to DC today after Bachmanns call this week. VA & NJ got rid of dems. Nassau and Westchester got rid of dems.
2010 is going to be a bloodbath. Count on it.
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Welll two asskickings out of 3 aren't bad....liberals will be swept upon the shitheap of history as Obama continues to flail along.
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is he the candidate that beck campaigned for and gave airtime to his cause and worked like crazy to get his viewers to campaign, vote, and donate, and work for?
Cause if so, it was a failure. If not, okay.
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Alot of people endorsed him but it was a little late. He had great core beliefs but wasn't a polished candidate nor did the fact that Chunky Monkey had the gaul to endorse the Dem.
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Alot of people endorsed him but it was a little late. He had great core beliefs but wasn't a polished candidate nor did the fact that Chunky Monkey had the gaul to endorse the Dem.
i'm saying that if Beck talked about the guy on the air - that's better than any endorsement. It's free tv advertising for a motivated right wing base.
But we can't expect that much from beck. He's a big ratings guy, but 8/10 of 1% of Americans watch him at his peak. Not a huge number.
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And he still got 46% in a district that voted for obama after only 30 days of campainiging and no previous experience. The dem got 49%. If you are trying to say this was some massive win or loss either way you are delusional.
3333 - who are you trying to kid. If Hoffman had won you would have started 30 threads about it, written all in CAPs and called "ground zero" etc....
You know this was a symbolically significant race due to the fissure in the Republican party and the fact that this district hasn't been Democratic for 140 years.
btw - why can't you teabagging ultra conservatives find someone who at least knows the f'ng issues and if you want to appeal the majority of the electorate that is sane try finding someone who doesn't call Glenn Beck their mentor
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Welll two asskickings out of 3 aren't bad....liberals will be swept upon the shitheap of history as Obama continues to flail along.
Keep in mind. Owens is only there temporarily, to serve the remaining term of the outgoing Congressman.
What's going to happen, when Owens has to run against a GOP candidate with full, solid support behind him and WITHOUT a "RINO", gumming up the works?
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3333 - who are you trying to kid. If Hoffman had won you would have started 30 threads about it, written all in CAPs and called "ground zero" etc....
You know this was a symbolically significant race due to the fissure in the Republican party and the fact that this district hasn't been Democratic for 140 years.
btw - why can't you teabagging ultra conservatives find someone who at least knows the f'ng issues and if you want to appeal the majority of the electorate that is sane try finding someone who doesn't call Glenn Beck their mentor
He's not downplaying the significance of the race. But, as he and I pointed out, Owens is a temporary fill.
The downplaying is coming from the left, especially by Pelosi, trying to dismiss the fact that Deeds got destroyed in VA, and Corzine got cut in NJ.
Obama's multiple appearances in those states, stumping for those candidates has virtually no effect.
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He's not downplaying the significance of the race. But, as he and I pointed out, Owens is a temporary fill.
The downplaying is coming from the left, especially by Pelosi, trying to dismiss the fact that Deeds got destroyed in VA, and Corzine got cut in NJ.
Obama's multiple appearances in those states, stumping for those candidates has virtually no effect.
Obama's multiple appearances in those states, stumping for those candidates has virtually no effect.
Not true! Obama's presence sunk these candidates. Obama is quickly becoming like kryptonite.
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2010 is going to be a bloodbath. Count on it.
Oooohhhh more of your famous predictions.
I will mark my calendar to be here the day after to laugh in your face and listen to all your excuses and spin.
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Oooohhhh more of your famous predictions.
I will mark my calendar to be here the day after to laugh in your face and listen to all your excuses and spin.
How is the UE rate doing?
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He's not downplaying the significance of the race. But, as he and I pointed out, Owens is a temporary fill.
The downplaying is coming from the left, especially by Pelosi, trying to dismiss the fact that Deeds got destroyed in VA, and Corzine got cut in NJ.
Obama's multiple appearances in those states, stumping for those candidates has virtually no effect.
The fact is that Corizine was hugely unpopular in NJ and was getting killed in the polls and actually gained support after Obama showed up (this is a fact)
Deeds ran away from Obama and ran against his agenda and lost more and more support throughout the campaign
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The fact is that Corizine was hugely unpopular in NJ and was getting killed in the polls and actually gained support after Obama showed up (this is a fact)
Deeds ran away from Obama and ran against his agenda and lost more and more support throughout the campaign
The independent running in that race made it closer for Corzine. Otherwise, he would have been blown out.
McConnell ran MUCH FARTHER AWAY from Obama and his agenda than Deeds did. Yet, he cruised to victory.
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The independent running in that race made it closer for Corzine. Otherwise, he would have been blown out.
McConnell ran MUCH FARTHER AWAY from Obama and his agenda than Deeds did. Yet, he cruised to victory.
Corzine had an abyssmal approval rating and no one expected him to win.
He didn't keep his campaign promises to reduce corruption and taxes.
of course McConnell ran against the Obama agenda - he's the Repub
Deeds was trying to run on McConnell's platform and it didn't work
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How is the UE rate doing?
I am employed and always will be in my line of work, so I don't follow that.