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Ft. Hood suspect reportedly shouted `Allahu Akbar
By JEFF CARLTON, Associated Press Writer Jeff Carlton, Associated Press Writer – 4 mins ago
FORT HOOD, Texas – Soldiers who witnessed the shooting rampage at Fort Hood that left 13 people dead reported that the gunman shouted "Allahu Akbar!" before opening fire, the base commander said Friday.
Lt. Gen. Robert Cone said officials had not yet confirmed that the suspected shooter, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, made the comment, which is Arabic for "God is great!" before the rampage Thursday, which left 30 people wounded, including the gunman.
An imam from a mosque Hasan regularly attended said Hasan, a lifelong Muslim, was a committed soldier, gave no sign of extremist beliefs and regularly wore his uniform at prayers.
Cone said Hasan was hospitalized in stable condition and that investigators hope to interrogate him as soon as possible. In the early chaos after the shootings, authorities believed they had killed him, only to discover later that he had survived.
Cone said Hasan was not known to be a threat or risk. He acknowledged that it was "counterintuitive" that a single shooter could kill and injure so many people. But he said the massacre occurred in "close quarters."
"With ricochet fire, he was able to injure that number of people," Cone said. Authorities are investigating whether Hasan's weapons were properly registered with the military.
The motive for the shooting wasn't clear, but Hasan was apparently set to deploy soon and had expressed some anger about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas, said generals at Fort Hood told her that Hasan was about to deploy overseas.
Lee said Hasan had hoped Obama would pull troops out of Afghanistan and Iraq and got into frequent arguments with others in the military who supported the wars.
Officials are not ruling out the possibility that some of the casualties may have been victims of "friendly fire," that in the mayhem and confusion at the shooting scene some of the responding military officials may have shot some of the victims.
The gunfire broke out around 1:30 p.m. at the Soldier Readiness Center, where soldiers who are about to be deployed or who are returning undergo medical screening. Nearby, some soldiers were readying to head into a graduation ceremony for troops and families who had recently earned degrees.
Pastor Greg Schannep had just parked his car along the side of the theater and was about to head into the ceremony when a man in uniform approached him.
"Sir, they are opening fire over there!" the man told him. At first, he thought it was a training exercise — then heard three volleys and saw people running. As the man who warned him about the shots ran away, he could see the man's back was bloodied from a wound.
Schannep said police and medical and other emergency personnel were on the scene in an instant, telling people to get inside the theater. The post went into lockdown while a search began for a suspect and emergency workers began trying to treat the wounded. Some soldiers rushed to treat their injured colleagues by ripping their uniforms into makeshift bandages to treat their wounds.
Video from the scene showed police patrolling the area with handguns and rifles, ducking behind buildings for cover. Sirens could be heard wailing while a woman's voice on a public-address system urged people to take cover. Schools on the base went into lockdown, and family members trying to find out what was happening inside found cell phone lines jammed or busy.
"I was confused and just shocked," said Spc. Jerry Richard, 27, who works at the center but was not on duty during the shooting. "Overseas you are ready for it. But here you can't even defend yourself."
The wounded were dispersed among hospitals in central Texas, Cone said. Their identities and the identities of the dead were not immediately released.
The bodies of the victims would be taken to Dover Air Force Base in Delaware for autopsies and forensic tests, said a U.S. official who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss matters that were under investigation.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091106/ap_on_re_us/us_fort_hood_shooting
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Ft. Hood suspect reportedly shouted `Allahu Akbar
By JEFF CARLTON, Associated Press Writer Jeff Carlton, Associated Press Writer – 4 mins ago
FORT HOOD, Texas – Soldiers who witnessed the shooting rampage at Fort Hood that left 13 people dead reported that the gunman shouted "Allahu Akbar!" before opening fire, the base commander said Friday.
Lt. Gen. Robert Cone said officials had not yet confirmed that the suspected shooter, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, made the comment, which is Arabic for "God is great!" before the rampage Thursday, which left 30 people wounded, including the gunman.
An imam from a mosque Hasan regularly attended said Hasan, a lifelong Muslim, was a committed soldier, gave no sign of extremist beliefs and regularly wore his uniform at prayers.
Cone said Hasan was hospitalized in stable condition and that investigators hope to interrogate him as soon as possible. In the early chaos after the shootings, authorities believed they had killed him, only to discover later that he had survived.
Cone said Hasan was not known to be a threat or risk. He acknowledged that it was "counterintuitive" that a single shooter could kill and injure so many people. But he said the massacre occurred in "close quarters."
"With ricochet fire, he was able to injure that number of people," Cone said. Authorities are investigating whether Hasan's weapons were properly registered with the military.
The motive for the shooting wasn't clear, but Hasan was apparently set to deploy soon and had expressed some anger about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas, said generals at Fort Hood told her that Hasan was about to deploy overseas.
Lee said Hasan had hoped Obama would pull troops out of Afghanistan and Iraq and got into frequent arguments with others in the military who supported the wars.
Officials are not ruling out the possibility that some of the casualties may have been victims of "friendly fire," that in the mayhem and confusion at the shooting scene some of the responding military officials may have shot some of the victims.
The gunfire broke out around 1:30 p.m. at the Soldier Readiness Center, where soldiers who are about to be deployed or who are returning undergo medical screening. Nearby, some soldiers were readying to head into a graduation ceremony for troops and families who had recently earned degrees.
Pastor Greg Schannep had just parked his car along the side of the theater and was about to head into the ceremony when a man in uniform approached him.
"Sir, they are opening fire over there!" the man told him. At first, he thought it was a training exercise — then heard three volleys and saw people running. As the man who warned him about the shots ran away, he could see the man's back was bloodied from a wound.
Schannep said police and medical and other emergency personnel were on the scene in an instant, telling people to get inside the theater. The post went into lockdown while a search began for a suspect and emergency workers began trying to treat the wounded. Some soldiers rushed to treat their injured colleagues by ripping their uniforms into makeshift bandages to treat their wounds.
Video from the scene showed police patrolling the area with handguns and rifles, ducking behind buildings for cover. Sirens could be heard wailing while a woman's voice on a public-address system urged people to take cover. Schools on the base went into lockdown, and family members trying to find out what was happening inside found cell phone lines jammed or busy.
"I was confused and just shocked," said Spc. Jerry Richard, 27, who works at the center but was not on duty during the shooting. "Overseas you are ready for it. But here you can't even defend yourself."
The wounded were dispersed among hospitals in central Texas, Cone said. Their identities and the identities of the dead were not immediately released.
The bodies of the victims would be taken to Dover Air Force Base in Delaware for autopsies and forensic tests, said a U.S. official who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss matters that were under investigation.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091106/ap_on_re_us/us_fort_hood_shooting
And people wonder why I have my CCW?
Combine Anti-War Liberalism and Islam and what do you get? Well you know.
Why didnt this piece of shit resign and go to Iraq to fight the US like a brave muislim warrior? Because they are cowards and punks.
Another thing, I guess Obama's apologies havnt done shit.
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Lt. Gen. Robert Cone said officials had not yet confirmed that the suspected shooter, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, made the comment, which is Arabic for "God is great!" before the rampage Thursday, which left 30 people wounded, including the gunman.
Cone made the following comments on NBC's Today Show this morning:
Army: Suspect said `Allahu Akbar!' before shooting 11/6/2009 6:36:00 AM
Associated Press/AP Online
By APRIL CASTRO and DEVLIN BARRETT
FORT HOOD, Texas - The base commander at Fort Hood says soldiers who witnessed a shooting rampage that left 13 people dead reported that the gunman shouted "Allahu Akbar!" before opening fire at the Texas post.
Lt. Gen. Robert Cone told NBC's "Today" show on Friday that suspected shooter, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, made the comment, which is Arabic for "God is great!" before the rampage Thursday that also left 30 people wounded.
Military officials say they are still piecing together what may have pushed Hasan, an Army psychiatrist trained to help soldiers in distress, to turn on his comrades.
Cone says Hasan was not known to be a threat or risk.
Hasan was shot four times during the rampage. Cone says he is hospitalized in stable condition and that military officials will interrogate him as soon as possible
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Military officials say they are still piecing together what may have pushed Hasan, an Army psychiatrist trained to help soldiers in distress, to turn on his comrades.
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How about the fact that he is follower of the Cult of Death?
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3,
The PC terminology is "religion of peace."
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3,
The PC terminology is religion of peace.
Screw that. Islam is a death cult. Anywhere it spreads its followers cause shit like this to happen.
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What do white guys yell when losing it?
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What do white guys yell when losing it?
"Take this you nasty bitch. You bankrupted me, took my kids away from me, and now want blood from me too?"
I know about 15 white guys in that very same situation about to explode.
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"Take this you nasty bitch. You bankrupted me, took my kids away from me, and now want blood from me too?"
I know about 15 white guys in that very same situation about to explode.
I've met a few who were pretty much screwed between child support, custody and dealing with a nagging ex until their kids turn 21.
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Screw that. Islam is a death cult. Anywhere it spreads its followers cause shit like this to happen.
Take it easy…
Take it easy…
Like our C-I-C said – don’t jump to any conclusions.
I’d really like to ask him why he supposes so many people DO jump to those types of conclusions.
:-\
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Yes-- we should not jump to conclusions
What had really happened was that the guy had really bad indigestion and let out a huge burp before he went on his killing spree. He was merely thanking god for releasing some of his gas before he decided to execute two dozen unarmed people and shoot several more.
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Whats scary is that Chris Matthews or one of these other scum of the earth talking heads would probably give credence to such a ridiculous explanation in a pathetic effort to be P.C
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"Take this you nasty bitch. You bankrupted me, took my kids away from me, and now want blood from me too?"
I know about 15 white guys in that very same situation about to explode.
you're saying you know about 15 white guys who are about to explode?
what do you mean by explode?
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And people wonder why I have my CCW?
Combine Anti-War Liberalism and Islam and what do you get? Well you know.
statistically, I'm more worried about the out-of-work white guy from up the street with rent to pay, than I am any other group motivated by religion, etc.
Chances are 1 in a million (or more) you'll ever need that CCW to fight a crazy muslim. A lot greater chance some poor schlep with bills is the one to worry about.
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statistically, I'm more worried about the out-of-work white guy from up the street with rent to pay, than I am any other group motivated by religion, etc.
Chances are 1 in a million (or more) you'll ever need that CCW to fight a crazy muslim. A lot greater chance some poor schlep with bills is the one to worry about.
But when one of these nutbags goes postal, guys like 33386 don't call for a culling of angry white guys from the general population. He doesn't call for all white guys to be locked up. He doesn't call all white guys vermin. i guess there are limits to his insanity I suppose. a soldier under extreme pressure snapped. It was bound to happen. I'm surprised something like this didn't happen sooner. Actually I think it did when they fragged that guy in afghanistan... the ex football player. What a spin they put on that one huh? All around tragic. What's worse is... I doubt he'll be the only one. i have no doubt there are far more ticking time bombs about to go off. I just hope they get diffused in time.
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But when one of these nutbags goes postal, guys like 33386 don't call for a culling of angry white guys from the general population. He doesn't call for all white guys to be locked up. He doesn't call all white guys vermin. i guess there are limits to his insanity I suppose. a soldier under extreme pressure snapped. It was bound to happen. I'm surprised something like this didn't happen sooner. Actually I think it did when they fragged that guy in afghanistan... the ex football player. What a spin they put on that one huh? All around tragic. What's worse is... I doubt he'll be the only one. i have no doubt there are far more ticking time bombs about to go off. I just hope they get diffused in time.
I don't think anybody wants to round up all Muslims, but let's drop the pretense that that religion is not a threat.
You're desperately trying to make an equivalent based on actions alone. The people you're pointing to don't have a religion behind them that is actively advocating killing infidels.
It's rare to hear such and such Christian church was espousing the congregation engage in violence. It's not uncommon to hear such and such mosque was promoting the killing of infidels.
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But when one of these nutbags goes postal, guys like 33386 don't call for a culling of angry white guys from the general population. He doesn't call for all white guys to be locked up. He doesn't call all white guys vermin. i guess there are limits to his insanity I suppose. a soldier under extreme pressure snapped. It was bound to happen. I'm surprised something like this didn't happen sooner. Actually I think it did when they fragged that guy in afghanistan... the ex football player. What a spin they put on that one huh? All around tragic. What's worse is... I doubt he'll be the only one. i have no doubt there are far more ticking time bombs about to go off. I just hope they get diffused in time.
Thats because the mythical boogey man "angry white guy" statistically barely exists. But keep up your lies Jag, only you and few others morons around here believe you. I have far more to fear from minorities committing acts of violence than they do from me.
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Thats because the mythical boogey man "angry white guy" statistically barely exists.
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In SW Fl, that angry white man, hell the angry any color man, definitely exists. We're #2 in the nation in foreclosures, dead tourism and construction indistry, and God only knows how high unemployment is here. Was officially 13% a while back when everyone else was flirting with 9, so you can bet we're *really* in 20 or more today.
I don't see many muslims at all, and they're the least of my worry when I'm coming out of a grocery store with the family or walking away form the ATM. It's broke local ppl that I'm worried about. If the 1-in-million time comes whensome jihad punk like this arises, I'll obviously be ready like I am with all people. but in my everyday life, there's not time o complain about muslims, cause the folks of every color on my street are broke as hell.
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In SW Fl, that angry white man, hell the angry any color man, definitely exists. We're #2 in the nation in foreclosures, dead tourism and construction indistry, and God only knows how high unemployment is here. Was officially 13% a while back when everyone else was flirting with 9, so you can bet we're *really* in 20 or more today.
I don't see many muslims at all, and they're the least of my worry when I'm coming out of a grocery store with the family or walking away form the ATM. It's broke local ppl that I'm worried about. If the 1-in-million time comes whensome jihad punk like this arises, I'll obviously be ready like I am with all people. but in my everyday life, there's not time o complain about muslims, cause the folks of every color on my street are broke as hell.
The issue is who is out killing people. White males statistically do not commit the majority of murders in this country and are portrayed in a way that does not reflect the reality of the statistics.
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Blacks and Hispanics Lead Hate Crime Statistics
by La Shawn on July 28, 2008
in General
So much for a black-brown coalition.
According to the 36-page 2007 Hate Crimes Report (PDF), thugs committed 763 “hate crimes” in 2007 in Los Angeles County, 28 percent higher than last year.
The majority of these crimes was motivated by bias against race/ethnicity and national origin. In “antiblack” crimes, 71 percent of suspects were hispanic; in anti-hispanic crimes, 56 percent of suspects were black. Blacks and hispanics are natural enemies (gang-bangers only?), it seems.
Before I continue, let me say for the record that the idea of a separate category as “hate crime” is ridiculous to the point of absurdity. Any crime of violence is a hate crime, regardless of what the perpetrator was thinking or shouting while committing the crime. If a thug hits someone on the head and grabs his wallet, that’s a crime. But silly-law proponents consider it much worse if the thug shouted, “black!” or “Fag!” while hitting the person on the head and grabbing his wallet. Dig?
The report, released by the Los Angeles County Human Relations Commission, isn’t getting much coverage in mainstream media. (The LA Times covered it, but it didn’t have much choice, being the “local” paper.) I wonder why. Let’s speculate, shall we?
There’s little money and almost no white-guilt potential in a report that reveals the continued animosity between two so-called oppressed minority groups. Do you agree? According to the report, “white supremacists” accounted for 17 percent of all hate crimes, but the number is too low to be worth milking, apparently. Do you agree?
Do me a favor. Let me know which black radio stations and news outlets mention this report. And if you find a mainstream media story about it, please post the link in comments.
Related posts:
■Black and Hispanic “Hate” in LA County
■Hispanic Gang in “All-America City” Targets Blacks
■Hispanic-on-Black Violence: Protestors, Where Are You?
■Georgia Strikes Down Thought Crime Law
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Dint let something like the facts get in the way of your argument 33386-- As we know people like Jaguar are allergic to them. ::)
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Dint let something like the facts get in the way of your argument 33386-- As we know people like Jaguar are allergic to them. ::)
Facts are like kryptonite to liberals. Especially the brain dead ones like jag, mons, kc, blacken, etc.
No matter how much data facts, evidence, etc you put forth, they still hold on to their failed hysterical emotional boogey men arguments that bear no relation to reality.
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Especially the absolutely moronic argument about All Religions being violent and bad for society.
Those damn Buddhist monks really need to stop with the beheadings on youtube!
Also, can you believe how many hindu's are blowing up their own temples while men, women and children are praying?
How about those damn Catholics hi-jacking airplanes and flying them into buildings-- or those pesky hassidic jews taking a school hostage and executing a few hundred children?
Also-- atheists have shown us the way to avoid needless violence! The Khmer Rouge, Stalin, Hitler, Fidel Castro, Mao and the rest have been a sterling example of how to make sure innocent people are not killed for no reason.
Is everyone paying attention?
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Most mass murderers, like most serial killers, are , white males.and since we are talking about a mass murder lets show the right statictics , so once again 333386 i have to correct your stupid ass, Facts are like kryptonite to 333386
Facts are like kryptonite to liberals. Especially the brain dead ones like jag, mons, kc, blacken, etc.
No matter how much data facts, evidence, etc you put forth, they still hold on to their failed hysterical emotional boogey men arguments that bear no relation to reality.
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Especially the absolutely moronic argument about All Religions being violent and bad for society.
Those damn Buddhist monks really need to stop with the beheadings on youtube!
Also, can you believe how many hindu's are blowing up their own temples while men, women and children are praying?
How about those damn Catholics hi-jacking airplanes and flying them into buildings-- or those pesky hassidic jews taking a school hostage and executing a few hundred children?
Also-- atheists have shown us the way to avoid needless violence! The Khmer Rouge, Stalin, Hitler, Fidel Castro, Mao and the rest have been a sterling example of how to make sure innocent people are not killed for no reason.
Is everyone paying attention?
QFT x100000000000
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GREAT >:(
chances of Toxic getting a good job with these stupid fuckers pulling shit like this getting lower >:(
its all this "equal rights" and "affirmative action " bullshit....
at least in Pakistan people like these dont make it into positions to do real harm....hell we wont even let em close to our neighborhoods...
but this equal rights for all dumbfucks is killing this country
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Screw that. Islam is a death cult. Anywhere it spreads its followers cause shit like this to happen.
actually not...and this coming from an athiest...i grew up in a muslim family....its this certain sect of low life muslims that has been allowed to spread under the guise of "equal rights and democracy" >:(
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The brand of Islam that is, happens to be mighty vocal. They have been for a long time. Nobody of any note says anything different, in the muslim world.
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The brand of Islam that is, happens to be mighty vocal. They have been for a long time. Nobody of any note says anything different, in the muslim world.
well mate what can i say...i can only speak for my family...
growing up in pakistan...yes they were almost weekly bus bombs and other bombblasts and shootings....my dad owned 3 movie theaters, a poultry farm , an audotorium and a clothing store....all my uncles r doctors..buzy people..
ya wake up...and watch the news and ya plan your route to work according to what happened where :-\
u also keep a low profile least these fuckers come after you....no one can save ya if at a red light someone walks up to your car and shoots you. If we saw them in our neighborhoods...we asked the security guard to fire off a few in their general direction to make em scatter ansd go away....also living in karachi...you make sure you frequent places where the prices for EVERYTHING is higher so you KNOW you wont find them there or run into them. Now to take time out of a buzy schedule and go give a statement to the local papers...or openly protest their actions
r ya nuts....thats PUTTING YOURSELF in the line of fire...why would anyone wanna?
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Most mass murderers, like most serial killers, are , white males.and since we are talking about a mass murder lets show the right statictics , so once again 333386 i have to correct your stupid ass, Facts are like kryptonite to 333386
You haven't corrected anything. You've made a claim about mass murderers with nothing. Serial killers, I'd probably agree are mostly white. Mass murderers - no way.
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well mate what can i say...i can only speak for my family...
growing up in pakistan...yes they were almost weekly bus bombs and other bombblasts and shootings....my dad owned 3 movie theaters, a poultry farm , an audotorium and a clothing store....all my uncles r doctors..buzy people..
ya wake up...and watch the news and ya plan your route to work according to what happened where :-\
u also keep a low profile least these fuckers come after you....no one can save ya if at a red light someone walks up to your car and shoots you. If we saw them in our neighborhoods...we asked the security guard to fire off a few in their general direction to make em scatter ansd go away....also living in karachi...you make sure you frequent places where the prices for EVERYTHING is higher so you KNOW you wont find them there or run into them. Now to take time out of a buzy schedule and go give a statement to the local papers...or openly protest their actions
r ya nuts....thats PUTTING YOURSELF in the line of fire...why would anyone wanna?
Am I misunderstanding you, or are you making the argument that Muslims don't stand up to the radicals because they're a bunch of cowards?
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who the fuck cares if you agree , thats the facts jack
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Am I misunderstanding you, or are you making the argument that Muslims don't stand up to the radicals because they're a bunch of cowards?
so ya want business men and women and doctors and lawyers go up in arms against them?
BIG words from someone that lives in the first world where there is POICE....and LAW
try that in pakistan and someones gonna walk into your house and murder your family and no ones gonna do jackshit about it
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who the fuck cares if you agree , thats the facts jack
You have no facts. Which is why you have no credibility. Which is why you're a YouTube monkey.
Mao Ze-Dong - Non White (tops most others combined)
Jozef Stalin - White
Adolf Hitler - White
Leopold II - White
Hideki Tojo - Non White
Ismail Enver - Non White
Pol Pot - Non White
Kim Il Sung - Non White
Menghistu - Non White
Jean Kambanda - Non White
Suharto - Non White
Saddam Hussein - Non White
Tito - White
Mullah Omar - Non White
Idi Amin - Non White
Benito Mussolini - White
Mobutu Sese Seko - Non White
Charles Taylor - Non White
Slobodan Milosevic - White
Papa Doc Duvalier - Non White
Vladimir Ilich Lenin - White
Khomeini - Non White
Osama Bin Laden - Non White
Augusto Pinochet - Non White
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so ya want business men and women and doctors and lawyers go up in arms against them?
Yes.
BIG words from someone that lives in the first world where there is POICE....and LAW
try that in pakistan and someones gonna walk into your house and murder your family and no ones gonna do jackshit about it
The reason we have that in our country to begin with is because we're not a bunch of chickenshit pussies.
And, yes, I have interfered with a serious crime and I'd be willing to bet a lot of the Americans who post on this board either have or would if the situation presented itself, irregardless of political affiliation. I don't care if it's Hugo, 240, or Tony, I think it's fair to say they would help a neighbor even in dangerous situations. Could be wrong, but I don't think so.
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Yes.
The reason we have that in our country to begin with is because we're not a bunch of chickenshit pussies.
And, yes, I have interfered with a serious crime and I'd be willing to bet a lot of the Americans who post on this board either have or would if the situation presented itself, irregardless of political affiliation. I don't care if it's Hugo, 240, or Tony, I think it's fair to say they would help a neighbor even in dangerous situations. Could be wrong, but I don't think so.
you cant have democracy if you arent willing to fight for it, there will always be ppl who want to be a dictator etc.
and yes i would help my neighbors and I would expect them to help me as well.
Ive always abhorred bullying and have always tried to step in and defend those who were being unnecessarily picked on. Bullies work off of fear and terrorists are no different, sorry but at times shit needs to be done.
You guys remember that movie swordfish, well john travolta said some lucid shit in that movie something along the lines of if they kill one we kill 100, if they bomb a school, we take out an entire city block.
Now im not advocating the US do this b/c of well you know all the shit but the citizens of pakistan of afghanistan need to stand up to these ppl.
Look at pablo escobar it wasnt until the citizens formed their own lynch mob that shit actually started to change...you cant help ppl that wont help themselves
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Yes.
The reason we have that in our country to begin with is because we're not a bunch of chickenshit pussies.
And, yes, I have interfered with a serious crime and I'd be willing to bet a lot of the Americans who post on this board either have or would if the situation presented itself, irregardless of political affiliation. I don't care if it's Hugo, 240, or Tony, I think it's fair to say they would help a neighbor even in dangerous situations. Could be wrong, but I don't think so.
have you EVER even been to a 3rd world country and walked the streets alone?
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have you EVER even been to a 3rd world country and walked the streets alone?
Several being an Army brat. And if you count Mexico, add one more. I can only think of two times of the top of my head where I was alone and in a bad area.
But that's neither here nor there.
Did you read Tony's post?
"you cant have democracy if you arent willing to fight for it, there will always be ppl who want to be a dictator etc."
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You have no facts. Which is why you have no credibility. Which is why you're a YouTube monkey.
Mao Ze-Dong - Non White (tops most others combined)
Jozef Stalin - White
Adolf Hitler - White
Leopold II - White
Hideki Tojo - Non White
Ismail Enver - Non White
Pol Pot - Non White
Kim Il Sung - Non White
Menghistu - Non White
Jean Kambanda - Non White
Suharto - Non White
Saddam Hussein - Non White
Tito - White
Mullah Omar - Non White
Idi Amin - Non White
Benito Mussolini - White
Mobutu Sese Seko - Non White
Charles Taylor - Non White
Slobodan Milosevic - White
Papa Doc Duvalier - Non White
Vladimir Ilich Lenin - White
Khomeini - Non White
Osama Bin Laden - Non White
Augusto Pinochet - Non White
Clon Ferguson - NYC Subway - 9 dead
John Mohammed - 13 dead
V Tech - 33 Dead
Bin Laden & Atta - 3,000 dead
Ramzi Yusef - 8 dead
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Several being an Army brat. And if you count Mexico, add one more.
mexico...lmao....yeesh man...mexico isn't karachi
what you are asking ...hmm lets see...we moved to this country cause JUST such a thing happened (fuckers walked into our house and my brother got shot..it as political/religious cause we were neighbours with the minister of sindh and easier targets than him..police did not do JACKSHIT)
...another time...a 2nd couzin ws found shot in the head with his car wrapped around a tree...
what you say...go against these people...we once did...and we paid severly for it...
so no thankyou...i'd rather we just shot em in the streets...but political correctness has spread like a virus and one cant even do that in pakistan...
hell...now a days one isn't even allowed to kill somali pirates :-\
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Blacken:
Look at this page and tell me white guys are responsible for most murders.
YOU = DINGBAT
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_murderers_and_spree_killers_by_number_of_victims
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Does anyone else think blacken is that retarded ape SAMSON's gimmick?
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Blacken:
Look at this page and tell me white guys are responsible for most murders.
YOU = DINGBAT
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_murderers_and_spree_killers_by_number_of_victims
Experts: Many motives drive mass murders
Personal failures, revenge cited as factors in massacre in Binghamton, N.Y.
Smoke rises from a sniper's gun as he fires from the tower of the University of Texas administration building in Austin on Aug. 1, 1966. Police identified the killer of at least 16 persons as Charles J. Whitman, 24, a student at the university. As long as there have been repeating firearms, there have been mass killings.
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updated 6:27 p.m. ET, Mon., April 6, 2009
Mass murderers are as different as their killing field — be it a nursing home or a suburban home — and as diverse as their reasons for killing — whether it's spousal betrayal or the loss of a job.
But experts say most people who embark on such wholesale slaughter share certain key characteristics: A catastrophic event that triggers a suicidal rage and an unquenchable thirst to get even.
And there is often no way to see it coming.
"I'm not sure you can even predict it," says Mark Safarik, who retired in 2007 as a senior profiler in the FBI's famed Behavioral Analysis Unit.
"It's the constellation or coming together, the perfect storm of someone's last shot at something. For them, there's just no other way out. Or if there's another way out, they don't choose it, because they're going to punish somebody."
Mass murder is nothing new
Mass murder is nothing new, and the invention of repeating guns only made it easier. But even experts who study the phenomenon have been stunned by the recent rash — seven in the past month, three in the past week alone.
"Boy, this is a lot," said Safarik, now a partner with Forensic Behavioral Services International.
Criminologist Jack Levin was not surprised to learn that the man who shot up a Binghamton, N.Y., immigrant center on Friday had recently been laid off from his job at a vacuum cleaner factory. What puzzled him at first was why Jiverly Wong chose his target.
"If it was only the job loss, why didn't he go back to the work site and kill his manager and his co-workers?" the Northeastern University professor asked himself. "Because that's what we're used to seeing when someone is set off by a termination at work. But he didn't do that."
Then he learned that the 41-year-old Wong — an ethnic Chinese man raised in Vietnam — had taken English classes at the American Civic Association, and that he blamed his inability to find and keep work, in part, on his poor language skills. That's when the massacre began to make sense — or as much sense as any such tragedy can.
Wong's personal failures meant that he had "lost the respect in the eyes of others of the immigrant community," said Levin, co-author of the book "Extreme Killing: Understanding Serial and Mass Murder."
"I'm sure that he was on a suicidal rampage, but first he decided he was going to get even," Levin said of Wong, who killed 13 before ending his own life. "And just like every other mass killing I've studied, his motive — his primary motive — was revenge."
New clues emerged Monday in a letter purportedly written by Wong and mailed to a television station on the day of the massacre. In it, the gunman said he was persecuted by police, couldn't accept his "poor life" and was intent on killing himself and at least two other people.
Saturation media coverage
Wong's attack came less than a week after a rampage that killed eight in a North Carolina nursing home. And it preceded attacks in Pittsburgh and Washington State that left three police officers and five children dead.
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Jiverly Wong killed 13 people in a rampage at an immigrant community center in Binghamton, N.Y., and then committed suicide.
Media coverage of such events blankets the airwaves, and that becomes another factor, Safarik said. In this era of saturation coverage, mass murders seem to beget more mass murders, and the stumbling economy only makes matters worse.
"I think that people that are on the edge, that are contemplating such tragic events, sometimes all it takes is that being highlighted in the media for them to go, 'You know? I could do something like that, I'm THAT angry,'" said Safarik. "It's in their face on the television, and now it's in their thinking pattern.
"It becomes an option that, perhaps earlier on, wasn't an option for them."
Most mass murderers, like most serial killers, are middle-aged, white males, like Robert Stewart — the man who walked into Pinelake Health and Rehab in Carthage, N.C., on March 29 in an apparent search for his estranged wife. But that profile, coupled with the large body count, is where the similarities seem to end.
Serial murderers often kill for sadistic pleasure, said professor James Alan Fox, a colleague of Levin's at Northeastern and his co-author. Mass killers, on the other hand, tend to externalize their homicidal reasonings.
"They always think someone else is to blame. 'My boss doesn't give me the right kinds of assignments. My co-workers don't do enough to help me succeed. My wife doesn't understand me at all, doesn't treat me with respect.'"
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Does anyone else think blacken is that retarded ape SAMSON's gimmick?
Blacken is a knee jerk lib with no facts to back up his emotionally based claims.
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Do you want me to post that list I linked to?
Your claims that whites are responsible for most mass murders is just plainly wrong, as usual,
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everyone on this site knows most of the stuff you post is wrong because you get the shit from these bogus sites and you don't check your facts.
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everyone on this site knows most of the stuff you post is wrong because you get the shit from these bogus sites and you don't check your facts.
Its from wikipedia and contains exhaustive lists of mass murders by location, victim, etc.
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everyone on this site knows most of the stuff you post is wrong because you get the shit from these bogus sites and you don't check your facts.
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Its from wikipedia and contains exhaustive lists of mass murders by location, victim, etc.
I'm surprised he hasn't thrown the "You can't handle the truth" video out on you.
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Experts Explore Rise in Mass Murder
By FOX BUTTERFIELD,
Published: Saturday, October 19, 1991
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The killing of 22 people at a Texas cafeteria Wednesday is only the latest incident showing a rapid increase in mass murder in the past decade, both in frequency and in the number of victims murdered in individual attacks.
In the view of experts, mass murder is a peculiarly American phenomenon that has grown out of the proliferation of guns in this country, the disintegration of traditional American society and, more recently, the decline in the standard of living in recent years as millions of relatively high-paying jobs have been lost.
Of the 10 largest mass murders in American history, in fact, 8 have occured since 1980, according to a widely recognized expert, Dr. James A. Fox of Northeastern University here.
And while mass murderers are part of a larger picture of increasing violence in American society, they also represent a distinctly identifiable subset of murderers, a group whose menacing characteristics are sometimes recognized by neighbors and friends after the crimes occur, but whose explosions into murder cannot be anticipated. Possible Link to Hearings
In the case of the shootings in Killeen, Tex., several experts said they were intrigued by the possibility that the murders might have been triggered by the killer's reaction to the televised Senate hearings last weekend into Prof. Anita F. Hill's accusations of sexual harrassment against Judge Clarence Thomas. The murderer, George J. Hennard, evidently harbored a strong dislike for women.
Dr. Fox, defines mass murder as the killing of four or more people, said there were now an average of two mass murders a month in this country. Most are in Texas, California and Florida, heavily populated states with a large influx of migrants searching for new jobs or families after disappointments or frustrations elsewhere.
It is this kind of unhappy, angry people, almost always middle-aged white men in their 30's or 40's, who are most likely to become mass murderers, said Dr. Fox, the dean of the College of Criminal Justice at Northeastern and a co-author of "Mass Murder," (Plenum Publishing, 1985) widely considered the most authoritative study of this type of crime.
Typically mass murderers are men with no previous criminal record or history of mental illness, said Dr. Marvin E. Wolfgang, professor of criminology and law at the University of Pennsylvania, and their killings "are not really planned." 'Inability to Predict'
Like Mr. Hennard, they may be rude to their neighbors and have occasional outbursts that frighten people, but that is true of thousands of people around the country and offers no clue that they will become mass murderers, added Dr. Fox.
"What is really striking is our complete inability to predict this kind of violence," said Deborah Denno, a criminologist and an associate professor of law at Fordham University.
What seems to happen with men who become mass murderers, Dr. Fox said, is that after a prolonged period of being lonely, frustrated and filled with rage, "There is some precipitating event, often a catastrophe in their lives," which drives them over the edge. It may be getting divorced or losing their jobs, Dr. Fox said.
In Mr. Hennard's case, one factor might have been that he was disconsolate about having been stripped of his license as a merchant seaman after being found with marijuana.
But, neighbors say, Mr. Hennard also exhibited a hatred for at least some women, which showed up in a letter he wrote to two women referring to "those mostly white treacherous female vipers" who "tried to destroy me and my family."
In Dr. Fox's view, "It's possible the Senate hearings stirred up his anger at women.
Neil Semelser, a professor of sociology at the University of California at Berkeley, agreed. "The Thomas hearings could have been a precipitating factor," he said. "It could have been the last straw for him."
Park Dietz, a consulting psychiatrist and criminologist in Newport Beach, Calif., who has studied mass killers, saw a different connection to the media. Dr. Dietz said he believed that "mass murderers acquire their fantasies from media accounts" of other mass murder cases. Hence he asserts that the "way to turn this thing off is by greatly reducing media coverage."
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Where are his facts, statistics, and records to prove this?
I posted a link to actual events, this professor is just exposing his personal views.