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http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/content/view/2481/164/
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Obviously the good ol' Block was there last night and let me tell you when I say teh gayness was STRONG last night.
I walked out of that jipjoint like O'Bannion from 'Dazed & Confused' after he had the paint dumped on him by the skinny Freshamn fucks!
It was a collection of homos, schmoes, faux hawks, mo hawks and turds in graphic t's. Somewhere in all of that you had a big bald dude with slick eyebrows holding a beer in a 4x solid black-t and in Air Force-1s totally disgusted at an industry he once loved.
Political judging. Rigging. Fixed placings. Muscle worshippers. Deviants. Fanboys. You name it.
I'll keep training and entering a show here and there but I think my days of hanging out at local shows are over.
- Block!
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Obviously the good ol' Block was there last night and let me tell you when I say teh gayness was STRONG last night.
I walked out of that jipjoint like O'Bannion from 'Dazed & Confused' after he had the paint dumped on him by the skinny Freshamn fucks!
It was a collection of homos, schmoes, faux hawks, mo hawks and turds in graphic t's. Somewhere in all of that you had a big bald dude with slick eyebrows holding a beer in a 4x solid black-t and in Air Force-1s totally disgusted at an industry he once loved.
Political judging. Rigging. Fixed placings. Muscle worshippers. Deviants. Fanboys. You name it.
I'll keep training and entering a show here and there but I think my days of hanging out at local shows are over.
- Block!
thanks for the report. ps. you're hot
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Hey block. I was going to see the night show but changed my mind. Still recovering from continental show.
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Hey block. I was going to see the night show but changed my mind. Still recovering from continental show.
You didn't miss anything. Want me to break it down for you? Here goes...
You had several different category of people at the show.
1. You had the fanboys. Those who stood in line to take a picture with Cutler striking a "Thumbs Up" and dishing out their cash to get a... "To (insert name of schmoe) Best of Luck! Jay Cutler. Mr. O" to have that same person tell his schmoe buddies... "Dooooood! He is like so cool. Dude! Dude! He's like a regular guy dude... he was like talkin' to me for like 20 minutes, dude. I shit you not! He's cool as hell, dude. "
2. The schmoes. Guys who kind of sort of stand out. They are usually very overweight or underweight with a camera in their hands with a guilty look on their creepy faces.
3. The phaggots. Dressed with a sport jacket and designer jeans. They walk with an effeminate style and wear heavy cologne. More than likely looking to score a new 'sponsor' or 'client' or they are their to see the fruits (no pun intended) of their money working for them on stage.
4. The permabulker posers. These are the dudes who usually train at the hardcore gyms. On gear 12 months out of the year, never gets on stage with a tomato-faced Cypionate look to them holding their breathe as they talk downing every competitor on stage declaring if they dieted down they would dwarf everyone on stage. Can be heard spitting out sentences such as... "Oh, man look at this dude, bro... he got no arms. Dude, I would destroy that guy. I know dude, next year (always next year) I'm gonna win this show..."
5. The fashion victims: Dressed to the 9 in the traditional graphic styled button down shirts untucked into their tight Hollister jeans and dress shoes. Usually with a faux hawk. Often in a graphic-t or an Affliction shirt.
6. The inner-scene ass kissers: The doey eyed high hoped fools who swear the shows aren't rigged and the placings aren't a result of political influence. Blind to the obvious these types walk around with permanent stains of shit on their noses.
7. The jaded cynic. Singular. Blockhead. Standing back watching the big MIRAGE (no pun intended) of what a bodybuilding show is disgusted at the corruption, the fixed placings, the politics, and everything els mentioned above wondering why he even bothers with this bullshit anymore praying someone will put him out of his misery if he has to see another fake asshole with her tits hanging out or in an extra-medium graphic-t.
Other than that, Colussus3, the show ran smoothly and the beer flowed nicely.
- Block!
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You didn't miss anything. Want me to break it down for you? Here goes...
You had several different category of people at the show.
1. You had the fanboys. Those who stood in line to take a picture with Cutler striking a "Thumbs Up" and dishing out their cash to get a... "To (insert name of schmoe) Best of Luck! Jay Cutler. Mr. O" to have that same person tell his schmoe buddies... "Dooooood! He is like so cool. Dude! Dude! He's like a regular guy dude... he was like talkin' to me for like 20 minutes, dude. I shit you not! He's cool as hell, dude. "
2. The schmoes. Guys who kind of sort of stand out. They are usually very overweight or underweight with a camera in their hands with a guilty look on their creepy faces.
3. The phaggots. Dressed with a sport jacket and designer jeans. They walk with an effeminate style and wear heavy cologne. More than likely looking to score a new 'sponsor' or 'client' or they are their to see the fruits (no pun intended) of their money working for them on stage.
4. The permabulker posers. These are the dudes who usually train at the hardcore gyms. On gear 12 months out of the year, never gets on stage with a tomato-faced Cypionate look to them holding their breathe as they talk downing every competitor on stage declaring if they dieted down they would dwarf everyone on stage. Can be heard spitting out sentences such as... "Oh, man look at this dude, bro... he got no arms. Dude, I would destroy that guy. I know dude, next year (always next year) I'm gonna win this show..."
5. The fashion victims: Dressed to the 9 in the traditional graphic styled button down shirts untucked into their tight Hollister jeans and dress shoes. Usually with a faux hawk. Often in a graphic-t or an Affliction shirt.
6. The inner-scene ass kissers: The doey eyed high hoped fools who swear the shows aren't rigged and the placings aren't a result of political influence. Blind to the obvious these types walk around with permanent stains of shit on their noses.
7. The jaded cynic. Singular. Blockhead. Standing back watching the big MIRAGE (no pun intended) of what a bodybuilding show is disgusted at the corruption, the fixed placings, the politics, and everything els mentioned above wondering why he even bothers with this bullshit anymore praying someone will put him out of his misery if he has to see another fake asshole with her tits hanging out or in an extra-medium graphic-t.
Other than that, Colussus3, the show ran smoothly and the beer flowed nicely.
- Block!
YUP. I know bodybuilding makes you feel good about yourself and wanna look your best but man, the way some people were dressed, might as well wear a dam suit and tie. Lol, those schmoes are the ones that i get a kick out of the most. I think i only saw 2 people with an "AFFLICTION" shirt.....
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LOL Brilliant analysis Block!
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why do these posers always make hand gestures to the ear to hear the crowd, levrone started that, fucking ego's. it seems jay grows in to a contest these days. i dont know man, pro bb needs to get more serious and classy with posing. something like mohamed makkaway, posing like that is good for the sport. and then the glitters, you need to seriosly stop going to these shows block.
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You didn't miss anything. Want me to break it down for you? Here goes...
You had several different category of people at the show.
1. You had the fanboys. Those who stood in line to take a picture with Cutler striking a "Thumbs Up" and dishing out their cash to get a... "To (insert name of schmoe) Best of Luck! Jay Cutler. Mr. O" to have that same person tell his schmoe buddies... "Dooooood! He is like so cool. Dude! Dude! He's like a regular guy dude... he was like talkin' to me for like 20 minutes, dude. I shit you not! He's cool as hell, dude. "
2. The schmoes. Guys who kind of sort of stand out. They are usually very overweight or underweight with a camera in their hands with a guilty look on their creepy faces.
3. The phaggots. Dressed with a sport jacket and designer jeans. They walk with an effeminate style and wear heavy cologne. More than likely looking to score a new 'sponsor' or 'client' or they are their to see the fruits (no pun intended) of their money working for them on stage.
4. The permabulker posers. These are the dudes who usually train at the hardcore gyms. On gear 12 months out of the year, never gets on stage with a tomato-faced Cypionate look to them holding their breathe as they talk downing every competitor on stage declaring if they dieted down they would dwarf everyone on stage. Can be heard spitting out sentences such as... "Oh, man look at this dude, bro... he got no arms. Dude, I would destroy that guy. I know dude, next year (always next year) I'm gonna win this show..."
5. The fashion victims: Dressed to the 9 in the traditional graphic styled button down shirts untucked into their tight Hollister jeans and dress shoes. Usually with a faux hawk. Often in a graphic-t or an Affliction shirt.
6. The inner-scene ass kissers: The doey eyed high hoped fools who swear the shows aren't rigged and the placings aren't a result of political influence. Blind to the obvious these types walk around with permanent stains of shit on their noses.
7. The jaded cynic. Singular. Blockhead. Standing back watching the big MIRAGE (no pun intended) of what a bodybuilding show is disgusted at the corruption, the fixed placings, the politics, and everything els mentioned above wondering why he even bothers with this bullshit anymore praying someone will put him out of his misery if he has to see another fake asshole with her tits hanging out or in an extra-medium graphic-t.
Other than that, Colussus3, the show ran smoothly and the beer flowed nicely.
- Block!
i got all my shit signed for free ;D
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why do these posers always make hand gestures to the ear to hear the crowd, levrone started that, fucking ego's. it seems jay grows in to a contest these days. i dont know man, pro bb needs to get more serious and classy with posing. something like mohamed makkaway, posing like that is good for the sport. and then the glitters, you need to seriosly stop going to these shows block.
...and I seriously think you are right.
Outside of some people I know through the bodybuilding world who I consider friends and good decent human beings it hurts me to see how people buy into the one big FACADE, the whole big LIE that is the bodybuilding industry and/or a bodybuilding contest. All a big lie. All a big smokescreen. There is nothing legitimate about it. It isn't even a real contest. It's like rassilin' or the Ms. America pagent. It's a rigged political handjob (Not Hany, well...) . It's a big whorehouse of deciet and it attratcs the most sociopathic, egotistical douchebags that walk the Earth.
For the 1st time of my life I felt ahsamed to be seen there or to be a part of it. Thank God I didn't pay for my tickets or then I'd really be pissed!
- Block!
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Man sounds like you had a terrible time homey....how was the turnout??
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Man sounds like you had a terrible time homey....how was the turnout??
Good.
I admit that the turnout was good. Lots of competitors from out of state and lots of competitors entirely. I haven't seen that particular show that jammed packed since it was held at Lane Tech Highschool back in the day.
I drowned my sorrows with beer and at least this time I didn't "drunk dial you" (no homo)
I weep for what this industry really is. I will always be a bodybuilder but I won't be a 'bodybuilding fan' anymore.
- Block!
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Good.
I admit that the turnout was good. Lots of competitors from out of state and lots of competitors entirely. I haven't seen that particular show that jammed packed since it was held at Lane Tech Highschool back in the day.
I drowned my sorrows with beer and at least this time I didn't "drunk dial you" (no homo)
I weep for what this industry really is. I will always be a bodybuilder but I won't be a 'bodybuilding fan' anymore.
- Block!
Haha..on the drunk dial! How were the competitors? Middleweights in particular?
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Haha..on the drunk dial! How were the competitors? Middleweights in particular?
Stacked! I will honestly say the show had very few slouches and scrubs.
The middleweight class may had 13 or 14 competitors. I thought the Overall Win was fair - Ted Voight - who was previously showcased on Getbig recently. The Overall female bodybuilder was undisputed and the Figure Overall was undisputed.
What I did enjoy was scoping out the most fierce pieces of pussy in the Chicagoland bodybuilding scene in attendence. Some of them gave me thoughts that would make Lee Priest blush. I almost wished I would have pulled a 'Ben Stiller' and cracked one off before walking in the building. Frank N Beans!
One thing that irked me was the lack of IFBB PRO attendence from Chicago. Not that I give a fuck but it would have benefitted the scene as a whole. No Alicia Harris, No Emily Nicholson, No Liberatore, No Sergio Olivia, No Chaundra Tanji, No Sarah Dunlap or a Beth Horn.
I used to always say a local show is a strong as the number of PROS who bother to attend.
- Block!
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Thanks...
Funny story. There was this one 350lb obese disgusting schmoe.About 50...balding, hairy wore a red t-shirt with food residue on it and Bob Chick style sweat pit stains and just a plain sack of shit. [/b][/size]He kept sweating Cutler and I mean sweating him like the hog that he is. Followed him all around and wouldn't step farther back than 10' from him. Wouldn't stop HOLLA-ing at him.
During this time Cutler kept cool and paid him little attention.
Then it was pointed out to me that he posts on MAYHEM as 'gregthebody' and is always harping about Cutler and what Cutler needs to do to get in better shape and how he trains like a pussy.
Only in the bodybuilding industry, I swear!
- Block.
Pumpster was there?
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Stacked! I will honestly say the show had very few slouches and scrubs.
The middleweight class may had 13 or 14 competitors. I thought the Overall Win was fair - Ted Voight - who was previously showcased on Getbig recently. The Overall female bodybuilder was undisputed and the Figure Overall was undisputed.
What I did enjoy was scoping out the most fierce pieces of pussy in the Chicagoland bodybuilding scene in attendence. Some of them gave me thoughts that would make Lee Priest blush. I almost wished I would have pulled a 'Ben Stiller' and cracked one off before walking in the building. Frank N Beans!
One thing that irked me was the lack of IFBB PRO attendence from Chicago. Not that I give a fuck but it would have benefitted the scene as a whole. No Alicia Harris, No Emily Nicholson, No Liberatore, No Sergio Olivia, No Chaundra Tanji, No Sarah Dunlap or a Beth Horn.
I used to always say a local show is a strong as the number of PROS who bother to attend.
- Block!
Stacked..really..thats good, atleast theres some good comp coming up around these parts. Pleasant surprise to hear about all the fine ladies in attendance..looks like I missed out on that. Didn't Liberatore move, I thought I heard he doesn't live in the Chi anymore?
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Stacked..really..thats good, atleast theres some good comp coming up around these parts. Pleasant surprise to hear about all the fine ladies in attendance..looks like I missed out on that. Didn't Liberatore move, I thought I heard he doesn't live in the Chi anymore?
He moved to Kentucky very recently. Had to do with personal reasons. Make no mistakes! Liberatore is still a true Original ChiTown Gangster!
I'm actually GLAD you didn't show up, Go 4 It. You would have fucked every hot piece of shaven pussy there right in front of everybody leaving ugly bald pricks like me with their schlick in his hand... watching you. (no homo)
- Block!
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He moved to Kentucky very recently. Had to do with personal reasons. Make no mistakes! Liberatore is still a true Original ChiTown Gangster!
I'm actually GLAD you didn't show up, Go 4 It. You would have fucked every hot piece of shaven pussy there right in front of everybody leaving ugly bald pricks like me with their schlick in his hand... watching you. (no homo)
- Block!
Thought I heard that about Mike L, never met him but he seems like a good dude, and always gotta root for a fellow Chitown guy plus he's Italian...
Definitely missed out, but on the brighter side I made some good coin on Saturday bartending a annaversiry party for a bunch of rich hippies, who were eating weed brownies and listening to The Stones and Greatful Dead, they were trying to get me high too lol...Haha...still never been to a bodybuilding comp yet, I think the first one I go to will be the one I compete in, plus I don't own a graphic tee as of yet, so I got some catching up to do, but after that it's on!!
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Notice there is more MEN screaming for Jay then BITCHEZ?
- Block!
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Funny story. There was this one 350lb obese disgusting schmoe. About 50...balding, hairy wore a red t-shirt with food residue on it and Bob Chick style sweat pit stains and just a plain sack of shit. He kept sweating Cutler and I mean sweating him like the hog that he is. Followed him all around and wouldn't step farther back than 10' from him. Wouldn't stop HOLLA-ing at him.
hahaahahahha
(http://i37.tinypic.com/2z54nlh.jpg)
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BIG PROPS to Swede!
You see? Block tells no lies!
'gregthebody' on Mayhem.
- Block!
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BIG PROPS to Swede!
You see? Block tells no lies!
'gregthebody' on Mayhem.
- Block!
and he is actually talking to cutler while he is posing with fans, god damnit what a fucked up "sport"
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disgusting arraignment of creatures
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Haha! Good thread - Block is one of the funniest guys on here! 8) ;D
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brilliant analysis by Block
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BIG PROPS to Swede!
You see? Block tells no lies!
'gregthebody' on Mayhem.
- Block!
That guy goes to many shpws. I've seen him around... :-X
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Thanks...
Then it was pointed out to me that he posts on MAYHEM as 'gregthebody' and is always harping about Cutler and what Cutler needs to do to get in better shape and how he trains like a pussy.
- Block.
whoa, whoa, whoa.....there was an actual siting of this clown? I don't know if you ever posted on MM Block, but if you did at all a couple years ago you'd never forget him. No wonder he went on and on so much about diet pop. He couldn't stand the stuff. lol
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hahaahahahha
(http://i37.tinypic.com/2z54nlh.jpg)
WOW....between the blocks outing this shmoe from the mayhem board and now this pic....this is a truly brutal owning
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Obviously the good ol' Block was there last night and let me tell you when I say teh gayness was STRONG last night.
I walked out of that jipjoint like O'Bannion from 'Dazed & Confused' after he had the paint dumped on him by the skinny Freshamn fucks!
It was a collection of homos, schmoes, faux hawks, mo hawks and turds in graphic t's. Somewhere in all of that you had a big bald dude with slick eyebrows holding a beer in a 4x solid black-t and in Air Force-1s totally disgusted at an industry he once loved.
Political judging. Rigging. Fixed placings. Muscle worshippers. Deviants. Fanboys. You name it.
I'll keep training and entering a show here and there but I think my days of hanging out at local shows are over.
- Block!
"i get older......they stay the same age" 8)
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hahaahahahha
(http://i37.tinypic.com/2z54nlh.jpg)
Isn't that the same shmoe seen in some of the MD after party pictures?
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Block, fukin hysterical!!....great as usual breakdown of a bodybuidling show/expo...YOu gotta do this for everyshow, report back to us with pics and commentary...great stuff!!!! right on the money dude!!
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Isn't that the same shmoe seen in some of the MD after party pictures?
I like the on-cycle perma bulkers in the foreground!!
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Block, fukin hysterical!!....great as usual breakdown of a bodybuidling show/expo...YOu gotta do this for everyshow, report back to us with pics and commentary...great stuff!!!! right on the money dude!!
Thanks! I really should I know but I think my days of attending bodybuilding shows are behind me. It'll have to take alot for me to waste my time and these whorehouses admist a bunch of circus animals.
For now on the only shows I will be seen at are the ones I am competing in.
The fatbody seen in the pic above isn't the other disgusting sack of placenta we see at the MD afterparties. This guy was in Jay's grills most of the night. At one point I think Big Mel Chancey checked him and told him to 'take a walk'. I could be wrong, though...
My disgust comes from years of being at these shows and not believeing that others can't see what I see. It's sad. It makes me want to pull the hair that I don't have out of my head. How people buy into this one big gigantic lie is now beyond me.
- Block!
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Thanks! I really should I know but I think my days of attending bodybuilding shows are behind me. It'll have to take alot for me to waste my time and these whorehouses admist a bunch of circus animals.
For now on the only shows I will be seen at are the ones I am competing in.
The fatbody seen in the pic above isn't the other disgusting sack of placenta we see at the MD afterparties. This guy was in Jay's grills most of the night. At one point I think Big Mel Chancey checked him and told him to 'take a walk'. I could be wrong, though...
My disgust comes from years of being at these shows and not believeing that others can't see what I see. It's sad. It makes me want to pull the hair that I don't have out of my head. How people buy into this one big gigantic lie is now beyond me.
- Block!
I can see that, but if you were doing it for a radio show or web site where you could do commentary on the scene with humour,,through your perspective, which is unique but very relateable, then you would have fun again. If you cant beat em join em.
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hahaahahahha
(http://i37.tinypic.com/2z54nlh.jpg)
And to the right of "gregthebody" sir block talking to jen "the beast" cowan, hard to see her cuz "gregthebody" is in the way.
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Who's the chick in the back, further past Block, she looks like either a competitor with protan or a black chica?
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You didn't miss anything. Want me to break it down for you? Here goes...
You had several different category of people at the show.
1. You had the fanboys. Those who stood in line to take a picture with Cutler striking a "Thumbs Up" and dishing out their cash to get a... "To (insert name of schmoe) Best of Luck! Jay Cutler. Mr. O" to have that same person tell his schmoe buddies... "Dooooood! He is like so cool. Dude! Dude! He's like a regular guy dude... he was like talkin' to me for like 20 minutes, dude. I shit you not! He's cool as hell, dude. " :D
2. The schmoes. Guys who kind of sort of stand out. They are usually very overweight or underweight with a camera in their hands with a guilty look on their creepy faces.
3. The phaggots. Dressed with a sport jacket and designer jeans. They walk with an effeminate style and wear heavy cologne. More than likely looking to score a new 'sponsor' or 'client' or they are their to see the fruits (no pun intended) of their money working for them on stage.
4. The permabulker posers. These are the dudes who usually train at the hardcore gyms. On gear 12 months out of the year, never gets on stage with a tomato-faced Cypionate look to them holding their breathe as they talk downing every competitor on stage declaring if they dieted down they would dwarf everyone on stage. Can be heard spitting out sentences such as... "Oh, man look at this dude, bro... he got no arms. Dude, I would destroy that guy. I know dude, next year (always next year) I'm gonna win this show..."
5. The fashion victims: Dressed to the 9 in the traditional graphic styled button down shirts untucked into their tight Hollister jeans and dress shoes. Usually with a faux hawk. Often in a graphic-t or an Affliction shirt.
6. The inner-scene ass kissers: The doey eyed high hoped fools who swear the shows aren't rigged and the placings aren't a result of political influence. Blind to the obvious these types walk around with permanent stains of shit on their noses.
7. The jaded cynic. Singular. Blockhead. Standing back watching the big MIRAGE (no pun intended) of what a bodybuilding show is disgusted at the corruption, the fixed placings, the politics, and everything els mentioned above wondering why he even bothers with this bullshit anymore praying someone will put him out of his misery if he has to see another fake asshole with her tits hanging out or in an extra-medium graphic-t.
Other than that, Colussus3, the show ran smoothly and the beer flowed nicely.
- Block!
I bet you are a stereotype to someone as well. Let me guess, you had a bottle of EQ in your pocket that you sold to someone you agreed to meet at the show. And had a lot of guys coming up to you asking if you could get some tren for them, since you're the guy with "the connection". :D
And hanging with "Big" Mel Chancey to make everyone aware of the fact that you're down with the true badasses that pull out people's teeth with pliers. Better not start some shit with this homey! :D
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Thanks! I really should I know but I think my days of attending bodybuilding shows are behind me. It'll have to take alot for me to waste my time and these whorehouses admist a bunch of circus animals.
For now on the only shows I will be seen at are the ones I am competing in.
The fatbody seen in the pic above isn't the other disgusting sack of placenta we see at the MD afterparties. This guy was in Jay's grills most of the night. At one point I think Big Mel Chancey checked him and told him to 'take a walk'. I could be wrong, though...
My disgust comes from years of being at these shows and not believeing that others can't see what I see. It's sad. It makes me want to pull the hair that I don't have out of my head. How people buy into this one big gigantic lie is now beyond me.
- Block!
As Ron once said... there are people who fucking whine and complain and then there are those who sit and enjoy the entertainment around them. ;)
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Hey Block....just moved back to Illinois from AZ.....live in the NW burbs. Gonna have to check out a show with ya sometime.
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I bet you are a stereotype to someone as well. Let me guess, you had a bottle of EQ in your pocket that you sold to someone you agreed to meet at the show. And had a lot of guys coming up to you asking if you could get some tren for them, since you're the guy with "the connection". :D
And hanging with "Big" Mel Chancey to make everyone aware of the fact that you're down with the true badasses that pull out people's teeth with pliers. Better not start some shit with this homey! :D
This couldn't be furthur from the truth... The complete OPPOSITE if anything.
1. I've gotten out of the hook a few people up here and there to make a whopping $20 or $40 profit a long time ago. People know now not to ask because I'll tell them the same things.
2. Big Mel Chancey and I do NOT hang out. That is even further from the truth as your first attempt to classify me. There are enough people who get off by associating themselves with him for your reasoning above. He doesn't need another one. PLUS... he thinks I "call him out" under other screenhandles on other message boards because somewhere down the line the people HE does hang out with got it in their heads that if it is written on the internet and it is insulting then I, Block, must have written it.
- Block!
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Another solid thread from the Block. He's the Hunter S. Thompson of the lifting world. Fear and Loathing, indeed.
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Haha! Good thread - Block is one of the funniest guys on here! 8) ;D
x2. He pointed out some fine russian/czech broad in tight leopard pants, saying " if there was any broad id let take a dump on my face it would be her".....hahaaaa ;D ;D
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Isn't that the same shmoe seen in some of the MD after party pictures?
Over at MM, he was known as "Gregthebody," and here he's been rumored to be "Sioux_Country" and just recently as "Hipolito Meija" or whatever the name is...