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Fort Hood Mystery
By Michael Gaddy
LewRockwell.com
11-10--9
The facts as presented by the Army and the media reference the shooting at Fort Hood just don't compute. While I routinely dismiss any "facts" disseminated by the Army and the state's propaganda wing, sometimes referred to as the mainstream media, (MSM) there are some glaring inconsistencies in what has been reported about this tragedy.
First is the report the perpetrator was dead and then hours later the revelation that he was still alive. Exactly how long does it take to determine if a person is dead or alive? Could it be no one knew whom the shooter or shooters were and a story had to be concocted for public consumption? What happened to the two other "suspects" that were detained? What did they do to qualify as suspects and more importantly, what information surfaced that led to their release? One of the suspects reportedly stated he "was with the shooter."
Second is the number of victims from a single shooter. Let us not forget this shooting did not occur at the mall, it occurred on a military installation where the victims had been trained in military tactics and some were combat veterans. We are to believe they did nothing to stop a single shooter and he was allowed to reload several times and continue shooting and the only thing that stopped him was the arrival of a police officer after the gunman had gunned down over 40 people?
And how so very convenient for the state, a perpetrator who was both anti-war and a Muslim; just doesn't get any better than that. Could this be an example of following the philosophy of Rahm Emanuel on dealing with a crisis?
Third was the shutting down of communications in and around Ft. Hood for hours. While the Army and the media will explain this in various scenarios, it also provided the Army with a chance to create whatever story it was they wanted to provide the public on the terrible tragedy. Of course we all know the Army would never distort or lie about the facts involving the deaths of innocents. Well, there is that My Lai thing. People on the ground have told me cell phone towers were jammed to prevent unauthorized dissemination of information after the shooting. Again, the Army would not want any information contrary to the company line emerging from this disaster.
All too convenient for the Army was the rapid release of negative information related to the alleged shooter. It was said he received a negative evaluation report and that he had caused "red flags" to be raised some months ago concerning emails. Do we know anything this detailed about the "suspects" who were released? The caveat was added that it was unclear as to whether the suspect was the author of those emails. So, months ago, alarms were raised about emails the suspect might have sent, yet, in all those months the Army has been unable to determine who wrote them. Yeah, right. If red flags were in fact raised months ago, why did the Army do nothing? Going back to the 9/11 paradigm, we see the same evidence exhibited: the state had prior warnings but did not act on them. This proves unequivocally the government is either incompetent or complicit in both events. Yet, the state would have us all unarmed and depending on them for protection.
President Obama pledged, "to get answers to every single question about this event" but he also promised an end to signing statements, a transparent government, no more torture of detainees, and many more lies.
There has been speculation on the Internet that the shooting could have been a revolt against the Army from soldiers faced with stop-loss and multiple combat tours to Iraq and Afghanistan. While there is no evidence to support this theory, there is also no evidence to support the official Army version of events. Suicides among military personnel and veterans are at alarming levels, yet the Department of Defense does more to hide these facts than it does to deal with them.
The last thing the state can let happen is an awakening by its enforcement arm (military and LE) that they are nothing but tools of oppression and in fact, slaves to the monster they serve. While the military is trained and encouraged to kill and bomb in the name of the state, they are forbidden the means of protection for themselves and their loved ones once they are outside the killing zones designated by the state.
All is not normal inside the military community. This is not just seen in our military, instruments of oppression in other countries are revolting as well.
While it is doubtful we will ever learn the truth of exactly what happened at Fort Hood, we know with a degree of certainty the truth will never be revealed by the Army or the media. Could this have been a false flag event to divert the attention of the American public from the debates and planned demonstrations against the health care fiasco? Could it have simply been another MK Ultra event to further demonize the anti-war element in this country and to lay another crime at the current villain du jour: Muslims? Could there be a connection between this alleged shooter and his fellow Virginia Tech shooter Seung Hui Cho, other than an oblique reference to Cho having a Muslim influence?
One must always ask this question when faced with a story that is issued and controlled by the State: Cui Bono? Wonderful is it not the state is empowered with the unique ability to investigate its own lies and the power of the media and academia to demonize any who would question its veracity, and the support of Boobus, whose livelihood depends on the state's power to redistribute the wealth of the nation from producers to parasites.
November 9, 2009
Michael Gaddy an Army veteran of Vietnam, Grenada, and Beirut, lives in the Four Corners area of the American Southwest.
Copyright © 2009 by LewRockwell.com. Permission to reprint in whole or in part is gladly granted, provided full credit is given.
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I don't have time to cut this to pieces buts it so flawed its ridiculous...oh and what Army units were in Beirut...I smell a bullshit artist. Great CT site SAMSON...wow.
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I don't have time to cut this to pieces buts it so flawed its ridiculous...oh and what Army units were in Beirut...I smell a bullshit artist. Great CT site SAMSON...wow.
HH6 the wanna be soldier
You couldn't cut any part of this article to pieces because all of this happened the day of this supposed attack. The entire fabricated story being presented by the military and MSM is changing faster than the direction of leaves blowing in the wind.
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While I don't buy into CT's about this, I have some questions about how one guy ( a head shrink at that) gets off 100+ round with 2 hand guns and kills or wounds nearly 50 military personel. Now I have shot guns through out my life and being proficient with a hand gun isn't that easy, let alone firing one in each hand.
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Fort Hood Shooting 'Oddities'
By Lori Price, www.legitgov.org Updated: 10 Nov 2009
'Three people are involved. That, by definition, means it is a conspiracy.'
CLG Exclusive: Fort Hood: 'This story stinks to high heaven.' SFC, who spent ten years at Fort Hood, comments on Ft. Hood events 09 Nov 2009 I spent 10 years at Ft Hood. There is no way this 'official' story is legitimate. No way would a room full of combat vets allow this one shooter to get off over 100 rounds! And, it is not normal for the outside security guards to be there. They are at the MP station, and at the main gates. This means the room full of soldiers processing must have been pinned down; multiple shooters is the only plausible scenario. this sounds like MAJ Hasan has been used, and perhaps is a patsy. --SFC Donald Buswell (Retired)
* CNN: Over one hundred shots were fired in the attack. (Logic dictates that 'over one hundred shots' were
not fired by a single individual, surrounded by military personnel and special police forces.)
* CNN: FBI was investigating Major Nidal Hasan six months ago.
* Curiouser and Curiouser: -Video surfaces of alleged shooter, Major Nidal Hasan, attending Homeland
Security Task Force conference --Major Hasan's name appears on page 29 of The George Washington
University Homeland Security Policy Institute's 'Thinking Anew—Security Priorities for the Next
Administration' --Proceedings Report of the HSPI Presidential Transition Task Force - April 2008 - January
2009. The report is dated 19 May 2009.
* Numerous media accounts: Major Hasan's neighbors, medical trainers, colleagues, friends, cousin, uncle,
grandfather-- even the store owner to where he bought his food -- all heap praise on Major Hasan's
temperament. This appears to be psy-ops, six ways to Sunday. --LRP
* The alleged shooter received his medical degree from the military’s Uniformed Services University of the
Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md., in 2001 and is a graduate of Virginia Tech. Early on Thursday, he
showed no signs of worry or stress when he stopped at 7-Eleven for his daily breakfast of hash browns,
said Jeannie Strickland, the store's manager. "He came in (Thursday) morning just like normal," she said,
"nothing weird, nothing out of the ordinary."
Major Nidal Hasan
Fort Hood suspect to be tried in military court 10 Nov 2009 The army psychiatrist suspected in the killing of 13 people in a shooting at the Fort Hood Army post will be charged in a military court, U.S. government officials said on Monday. The official said there is no indication that the accused gunman, Major Nidal Malik Hasan, had been planning an attack.
FBI, military checked Hasan, saw no terror threat, officials say 10 Nov 2009 The FBI and the military investigated contacts between an Army psychiatrist accused of last week's deadly shooting rampage at Fort Hood and a Yemen-based militant over the past year but concluded he didn't pose a terrorist threat, senior law enforcement and military officials said Monday. The members of two Joint Terrorism Task Forces, including one in the nation's capital, went so far as to contact Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan's superiors and review his academic and military records for evidence of suspicious activity late last year and early this year, according to three senior U.S. law enforcement and intelligence officials.
US Senate to probe whether base massacre was terrorism 10 Nov 2009 A Senate committee on homeland security will investigate the mass shootings at Fort Hood, Texas, to determine whether Major Nidal Malik Hasan's deadly shooting rampage was an act of terrorism. The chairman of the Senate committee on homeland security, Joseph Lieberman [I-Israel], told Fox News Sunday there had been ''strong warning signs'' that Major Hasan was an ''Islamist extremist''.
Lawyer asks investigators not to question Hasan 09 Nov 2009 A lawyer for the Army psychiatrist accused in a deadly shooting spree at Fort Hood said Monday he asked investigators not to question his client and expressed doubt that the suspect would be able to get a fair trial, given the widespread attention to the case. Retired Col. John P. Galligan said he was contacted Monday by Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan's family and was headed to an Army hospital in San Antonio to meet Hasan. "Until I meet with him, it's best to say we're just going to protect all of his rights," Galligan said... Galligan questioned whether Hasan could get a fair trial in either criminal or military court, given President Barack Obama's planned visit to the base on Tuesday and public comments by the post commander, Lt. Gen. Robert Cone.
U.S. Monitored Fort Hood Suspect Before Shooting 10 Nov 2009 Intelligence agencies intercepted communications last year and this year between Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, who is accused of shooting to death 13 people at Fort Hood, Tex., and a radical cleric in Yemen known for his incendiary anti-American teachings. But federal authorities dropped an inquiry into the matter after deciding that the messages warranted no further action, government officials said on Monday. Major Hasan’s exchanges with the cleric, Anwar al-Awlaki, once a spiritual leader at a mosque in suburban Virginia where Major Hasan worshipped, indicate that the authorities were aware of Major Hasan before last Thursday’s deadly rampage, but did nothing.
Hasan Computer Reveals No Terror Ties 09 Nov 2009 A preliminary review of the computer of Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, the accused shooter in Thursday's rampage at Fort Hood in which 13 people were killed, has revealed no evidence of any connection to terror groups or conspirators, according to law enforcement officials. CBS News reports that an examination of the computer has revealed Hasan visited Web sites promoting radical Islamic views, but investigators have not found any e-mail communications with outside facilitators or known terrorists.
CIA Denies Report of Blocking Hasan Intel --Officials Tell CBS News Agency Isn't Withholding Information on Suspected Fort Hood Shooter 09 Nov 2009 Responding to a report that the Army psychiatrist suspected in last week's Fort Hood shootings had tried to contact people within al Qaeda - and that government intelligence agencies knew about it and are refusing to brief Congress on it - a U.S. intelligence official told CBS News that the CIA isn't withholding information from Congress. "There's no sign at this point that the CIA had collected information relevant to this case and then simply sat on it," the official told CBS News. ABC News published the report Monday morning with details that the CIA was refusing to brief the congressional committees charged with overseeing the intelligence agencies, a senior lawmaker told ABC.
Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact 'al Qaeda' --Army Major in Fort Hood Massacre Used 'Electronic Means' to Connect with Terrorists 09 Nov 2009 U.S. intelligence agencies were aware months ago that Army Major Nidal Malik Hasan was attempting to make contact with people associated with al Qaeda [al-CIAduh], two American officials briefed on classified material in the case told ABC News. It is not known whether the intelligence agencies informed the Army that one of its officers was seeking to connect with suspected al Qaeda figures, the officials said.
MORE INFO AT THIS SITE....
http://www.legitgov.org/attack_on_fort_hood_051109.html
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While I don't buy into CT's about this, I have some questions about how one guy ( a head shrink at that) gets off 100+ round with 2 hand guns and kills or wounds nearly 50 military personel. Now I have shot guns through out my life and being proficient with a hand gun isn't that easy, let alone firing one in each hand.
How many rounds did the gun(s) hold? 15 rounds probably. They say he fired off 100 rounds or so?
Thata alot of reloading to do.
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How many rounds did the gun(s) hold? 15 rounds probably. They say he fired off 100 rounds or so?
Thata alot of reloading to do.
Inital reports were 3 shooters, maybe 2 got the dirt nap, and this assclown happened to survive.
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How many rounds did the gun(s) hold? 15 rounds probably. They say he fired off 100 rounds or so?
Thata alot of reloading to do.
Has there been any reporting on the other 2 men that they took into custody originally ? I think the most likely scenario is that there was more than one shooter, but the Army wants to paint this a "lone crazy gunman" instead of a planned attack.
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Has there been any reporting on the other 2 men that they took into custody? I think the most likely scenario is that there was more than one shooter, but the Army wants to paint this a "lone crazy gunman" instead of a planned attack.
I think there has to be a range officer who will be around to say whether this guy was proficient or not at shooting.
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I think there has to be a range officer who will be around to say whether this guy was proficient or not at shooting.
Well the guy is firing 2 hand guns at moving targets and is hitting with about 50% accuracy.
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Well the guy is firing 2 hand guns at moving targets and is hitting with about 50% accuracy.
and reloading, at least 4-5 times......
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How many rounds did the gun(s) hold? 15 rounds probably. They say he fired off 100 rounds or so?
Thata alot of reloading to do.
EXACTLY... and how does one man load a gun(s) that many times and fires withboth hands on other trained and armed men and no one hits him??? How come the story broke with THREE MEN DOING THE SHOOTING and then all of a sudden the story changes to just one...THE ONE THAT HAPPENS TO BE A MUSLIM, WITH ANTI AMERICAN SENTIMENTS, WITH CONTACTS TO AL QAEDA, WITH TIES TO TERRORIST, PROBABLY KNOWS OSAMA, yadda yadda yadda.... Gimmie a break..
This same scenario happened at Virginia Tech. First there was the claim of three men, then reduced to one who had Muslim leanings etc etc. These are all black ops...for what purpose I am not sure, but once again the Patriot Act is up for renewal in december and what greater reason for renewal than to keep the belief of terrorist attacking america on the front burner.
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and reloading, at least 4-5 times......
This was definately a terrorist attack. To pull this offi, someone did not snap.
They had to have a ton of range time, purchased a shit load of ammo and magazines, etc.
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This was definately a terrorist attack. To pull this offi, someone did not snap.
They had to have a ton of range time, purchased a shit load of ammo and magazines, etc.
Look, I shoot a lot and go to the range at least once a week. To shoot like this and hit so many targets takes skill.
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Look, I shoot a lot and go to the range at least once a week. To shoot like this and hit so many targets takes skill.
This was definately a terrorist attack. To pull this offi, someone did not snap.
They had to have a ton of range time, purchased a shit load of ammo and magazines, etc.
Do you realize you are responding to your own posts?
This was BLACK OPS without a doubt. The truth of this event will be revealed in time.
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Do you realize you are responding to your own posts?
This was BLACK OPS without a doubt. The truth of this event will be revealed in time.
This guy had to have either formal training or a ton of range time. For a "therapist", something is strange here.
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He stood up in the middle of a bunch of people processing (who were most likely not anywhere near their weapons) and started unloading. It's not unfeasible to think that in the initial chaos of someone firing two weapons in a crowded room that no one would be able to pinpoint what the hell was going on. How many clips could a person go through in 30-45 seconds if they were firing as fast they can?
What would a "black ops" killing of soldiers about to deploy accomplish? Especially considering Obama and the government refuse to call it a terrorist attack. The answer? Absolutely nothing. Funny how the reasoning for why the event was carried out is always washed away in these CTs.
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This guy had to have either formal training or a ton of range time. For a "therapist", something is strange here.
The guy was a therapist and with that what would be his need in having specialized training or skills like that. The story is a SHAM 3...
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He stood up in the middle of a bunch of people processing (who were most likely not anywhere near their weapons) and started unloading. It's not unfeasible to think that in the initial chaos of someone firing two weapons in a crowded room that no one would be able to pinpoint what the hell was going on. How many clips could a person go through in 30-45 seconds if they were firing as fast they can?
What would a "black ops" killing of soldiers about to deploy accomplish? Especially considering Obama and the government refuse to call it a terrorist attack. The answer? Absolutely nothing. Funny how the reasoning for why the event was carried out is always washed away in these CTs.
No one is going to shoot off rounds like that and hit that many targets adn have that type of accuracy. Add to this his targets are trained to react to shooting: duck cover and arm. This scenario is NOT possible...it is a cover
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No one is going to shoot off rounds like that and hit that many targets adn have that type of accuracy. Add to this his targets are trained to react to shooting: duck cover and arm. This scenario is NOT possible...it is a cover
What the fuck would you know? You're a weapons expert now? It's funny how there's little to no information yet about this incident (the FBI hasn't even finished their trajectory analyses) and yet you know everything for a fact. Fuck off gimmick. You don't know jack shit. :-*
You could train someone for years and they may still panic when someone stands up behind them in a place where NO ONE is expecting to get shot and starts firing off rounds from two pistols. Going into a battle knowing you may get shot and getting shot in a place while you're filling out paperwork are two entirely different things. ::)
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The guy was a therapist and with that what would be his need in having specialized training or skills like that. The story is a SHAM 3...
Im just trying to envision if i personally had the capability to do this with the range time and training I have.
I guess if I am in the middle of a sea of people it could happen if there are hundrfeds of people around and a few exits, but we have to see the physical layout of the location.
i am a pretty good shot, but someone would have to be totally in the right frame of mind to keep their cool and keep on target in the chaos to do this.
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Im just trying to envision if i personally had the capability to do this with the range time and training I have.
I guess if I am in the middle of a sea of people it could happen if there are hundrfeds of people around and a few exits, but we have to see the physical layout of the location.
i am a pretty good shot, but someone would have to be totally in the right frame of mind to keep their cool and keep on target in the chaos to do this.
Cool and in the right frame of mind? You mean like someone who apparently planned this (having sold all his stuff, handed out korans and what not) and went into there intending to kill as many people as they possibly could?
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while I agree that something is up with only one shooter, one thing you guys have wrong is that the people he was shooting would NOT have been armed. You don't walk around a military post armed, unless you are an MP. Not to mention they were getting shots, doing paperwork, etc....and would have been caught totally off guard.
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while I agree that something is up with only one shooter, one thing you guys have wrong is that the people he was shooting would NOT have been armed. You don't walk around a military post armed, unless you are an MP. Not to mention they were getting shots, doing paperwork, etc....and would have been caught totally off guard.
That's what I'm saying. I'm not trained in weapons but I'm guessing that if you're in a packed room, unarmed and someone stands up and starts firing off two pistols in the middle of it that it wouldn't be too hard to fire off a few clips before people knew what the fuck was going on or where the bullets were coming from. It was probably pandemonium in there.
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Cool and in the right frame of mind? You mean like someone who apparently planned this (having sold all his stuff, handed out korans and what not) and went into there intending to kill as many people as they possibly could?
Absolutely Berzerk.
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That's what I'm saying. I'm not trained in weapons but I'm guessing that if you're in a packed room, unarmed and someone stands up and starts firing off two pistols in the middle of it that I don't see how it's not plausible that he fired off a few clips before people knew what the fuck was going on or where the bullets were coming from.
Yep, very chaotic scene. although I really do think there is a very good chance there was more than one shooter....we may never know, as the Army or FBI might rather make this look like "one crazy guy" instead of a planned attack to keep down hostitlities or the dreaded muslim backlash..... ::)
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What the fuck would you know? You're a weapons expert now? It's funny how there's little to no information yet about this incident (the FBI hasn't even finished their trajectory analyses) and yet you know everything for a fact. Fuck off gimmick. You don't know jack shit. :-*
You could train someone for years and they may still panic when someone stands up behind them in a place where NO ONE is expecting to get shot and starts firing off rounds from two pistols. Going into a battle knowing you may get shot and getting shot in a place while you're filling out paperwork are two entirely different things. ::)
Uh Yeah...right. And you were there to make your conspiracy theories accurate? I am going according to wha the media and military has presented which we all know is a LIE. Others are researching this EVENT and are coming to the same conclusion... tha this was an orchestrated event involving multiple people. If the soldiers are this lame in their reaction to one person...imagine how lame they will be on the battle field against another army of any size??? This one man army shooting with two guns, reloading many times, hitting with 40 to 50 percent accuracy in a panic situation...Pffff... Sounds like more Jessica Lynch BS to me. Throw in another girl to play the heroine and this whole story as the writer of teh article I posted said..STINKS TO HIGH HEAVEN.
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Uh Yeah...right. And you were there to make your conspiracy theories accurate? I am going according to wha the media and military has presented which we all know is a LIE. Others are researching this EVENT and are coming to the same conclusion... tha this was an orchestrated event involving multiple people. If the soldiers are this lame in their reaction to one person...imagine how lame they will be on the battle field against another army of any size??? This one man army shooting with two guns, reloading many times, hitting with 40 to 50 percent accuracy in a panic situation...Pffff... Sounds like more Jessica Lynch BS to me. Throw in another #### to play the heroine and this whole story as the writer of teh article I posted said..STINKS TO HIGH HEAVEN.
Researching what? There's no fucking evidence to "research". You're spewing bullshit as you have ZERO proof of what happened. For all we know there could have been 25 shooters with 4 bullets each. The FBI hasn't even finished their trajectory analyses of all the bullets. How could you, in your gimmick's infinitely shitty wisdom, know anything? Get this wonderful fact. The internet is full of shit. Not everything you read on it is fact. Although, I'm sure you take 99% of what you read to heart, he-who-believes-in-reptilians. ::)
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Researching what? There's no fucking evidence to "research". You're spewing bullshit as you have ZERO proof of what happened. For all we know there could have been 25 shooters with 4 bullets each. The FBI hasn't even finished their trajectory analyses of all the bullets. How could you, in your gimmick's infinitely shitty wisdom, know anything? Get this wonderful fact. The internet is full of shit. Not everything you read on it is fact. Although, I'm sure you take 99% of what you read to heart, he-who-believes-in-reptilians. ::)
I can't tell you exactly what happened, but I can tell you WHAT DID NOT HAPPEN...and this MSM/MILITARY soap opera being conccocted and preented as truth DID NOT HAPPEN...!!!!
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Tells us expert...what Black-ops unit did this...Delta/SEALS/MARSOC...yeah...if he reload 3-4 times he could fire that many. SAMSON ever been to an SRP site...we don't carry weapons there...nor do we walk around US bases with loaded weapons..ever, for any reason. U have no idea in any way what happened. There was no Cell phone block...calls got in and out. Guys were calling in from Iraq...we're replacing some of those guys if a few weeks. The shit u see on TV..I do everyday. U have no idea what "black-ops" is or what they do. Ur a CT nutbag piece of shit.
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I can't tell you exactly what happened, but I can tell you WHAT DID NOT HAPPEN...and this MSM/MILITARY soap opera being conccocted and preented as truth DID NOT HAPPEN...!!!!
So you admit that you can't tell us what happened?
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Tells us expert...what Black-ops unit did this...Delta/SEALS/MARSOC...yeah...if he reload 3-4 times he could fire that many. SAMSON ever been to an SRP site...we don't carry weapons there...nor do we walk around US bases with loaded weapons..ever, for any reason. U have no idea in any way what happened. There was no Cell phone block...calls got in and out. Guys were calling in from Iraq...we're replacing some of those guys if a few weeks. The shit u see on TV..I do everyday. U have no idea what "black-ops" is or what they do. Ur a CT nutbag piece of shit.
It was widely reported that cell phone towers were jammed in order to keep a lock down on Ft Hood.
Is ABC news lying?
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YES........Guys were able to call their wives and vice versa. Jag...people were saying that there was shots in the housing area and all kinds of crap.....first reports are never accurate. 20th Engineers, stationed at Hood, was with my BDE when they went to NTC this past summer. Those guys lost alot of folks killed and wounded, to this asshole. We've heard all kinds of shit. I don't know what happened exactly but it wasn't Black ops...it wasn't a false flag..it was a MUSLIM shitbag who killed our guys. Don't apologize for..look for an excuse..call it what it is and move on.
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YES........Guys were able to call their wives and vice versa. Jag...people were saying that there was shots in the housing area and all kinds of crap.....first reports are never accurate. 20th Engineers, stationed at Hood, was with my BDE when they went to NTC this past summer. Those guys lost alot of folks killed and wounded, to this asshole. We've heard all kinds of shit. I don't know what happened exactly but it wasn't Black ops...it wasn't a false flag..it was a MUSLIM shitbag who killed our guys. Don't apologize for..look for an excuse..call it what it is and move on.
It was widely reported that cell phone towers were jammed in order to keep a lock down on Ft Hood.
Is ABC news lying?
Your wasting your voice Jag (welcome back) on SHITHEAD HH6...according to him (Mr. wanna be soldier) everything is a LIE adn only the military tells the truth. Here is ABC news link talking about the jammed cell phones
http://abc6onyourside.com/shared/newsroom/top_stories/wsyx_vid_1214.shtml
Now it is being reported that some of the IDIOT soldiers actually shot the victims, so Hasan is NOT guilty of killing 13 people...HE MAY HAVE NOT KILLED ANY...IT COULD BE ALL OF THE SOLDIERS FAULTS FOR THE DEATHS
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/56726
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Here is ABC news link talking about the jammed cell phones
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Make up your mind Samson. Your all over claiming that MSM is bullshit and lies, now you want to claim they're telling the truth? Do you know what waffling is?
I can't tell you exactly what happened, but I can tell you WHAT DID NOT HAPPEN...and this MSM/MILITARY soap opera being conccocted and preented as truth DID NOT HAPPEN...!!!!
Love how you parrot what tyour MSM put out as fodder for you to eat up....
The entire fabricated story being presented by the military and MSM is changing faster than the direction of leaves blowing in the wind.
Now it is being reported that some of the IDIOT soldiers actually shot the victims, so Hasan is NOT guilty of killing 13 people...HE MAY HAVE NOT KILLED ANY...IT COULD BE ALL OF THE SOLDIERS FAULTS FOR THE DEATHS
From your link, "Officials are not ruling out the possibility that some of the casualties may have been victims of "friendly fire," that in the mayhem and confusion at the shooting scene some of the responding military officials may have shot some of the victims."
You can't yell fire in a crowded theater and claim innocence when people are hurt in the stampede. Same applies here. If people were hurt in the mayhem, he's still responsible for everyone who got injured.
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Make up your mind Samson. Your all over claiming that MSM is bullshit and lies, now you want to claim they're telling the truth? Do you know what waffling is?
Uh SKIPPYDOO...since HH6 only believes the military and MSM I had to use the sources he believes. He did not believe when I said the phones were jammed so I showed him a MSM link and he SHUT UP!!!!
He wanted to believe the soldiers were professional and would NEVER shoot one another, so I showed him a MSM link..and he SHUT UP
Any other questions or inquiries???
From your link, "Officials are not ruling out the possibility that some of the casualties may have been victims of "friendly fire," that in the mayhem and confusion at the shooting scene some of the responding military officials may have shot some of the victims."
You can't yell fire in a crowded theater and claim innocence when people are hurt in the stampede. Same applies here. If people were hurt in the mayhem, he's still responsible for everyone who got injured.
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Uh SKIPPYDOO...since HH6 only believes the military and MSM I had to use the sources he believes. He did not believe when I said the phones were jammed so I showed him a MSM link and he SHUT UP!!!!
He wanted to believe the soldiers were professional and would NEVER shoot one another, so I showed him a MSM link..and he SHUT UP
Any other questions or inquiries???
No, that's just you attempting to distort what he said and failing miserably. He was referring to you saying it's Black Ops. He never said there was no possibility of soldiers getting hurt from friendly fire.
I'm gathering from your posts that you don't seem to have any idea how special forces work. Have you ever even met people in the special forces? I doubt it. They're not brainless idiots out to kill their own countrymen. They don't answer to secret, powerful businessmen. And I can guarantee that EVERY one that I've come across would throw himself in front of you to protect you from a wreckless gunman.
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No, that's just you attempting to distort what he said and failing miserably. He was referring to you saying it's Black Ops. He never said there was no possibility of soldiers getting hurt from friendly fire.
I'm gathering from your posts that you don't seem to have any idea how special forces work. Have you ever even met people in the special forces? I doubt it. They're not brainless idiots out to kill their own countrymen. They don't answer to secret, powerful businessmen. And I can guarantee that EVERY one that I've come across would throw himself in front of you to protect you from a wreckless gunman.
SKIPPY you are just like BERZERK, you talk too much, assume too much and LIE too much. Berzerk can speak for himself if he wishes he does not need you as a secretary.
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SKIPPY you are just like BERZERK, you talk too much, assume too much and LIE too much. Berzerk can speak for himself if he wishes he does not need you as a secretary.
BF has nothing to do with this. Try and keep up. And, what did I lie about?
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BF has nothing to do with this. Try and keep up. And, what did I lie about?
Apparently I'm in his head. Anytime this twat gets called out he goes on the defensive. Don't expect him to actually refute anything you said. He'll just continue to insult you and avoid the questions you're asking.
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It was widely reported that cell phone towers were jammed in order to keep a lock down on Ft Hood.
Is ABC news lying?
My god, step back from the aroma of your pills.
The first reports were that there were possibly three shooters. Maybe, just maybe, they thought this was a coordinated attack and more shooters were on the way or already coordinating this amongst each other via cell phone and wanted to end that?
Did that ever occur to you Jag?
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My god, step back from the aroma of your pills.
The first reports were that there were possibly three shooters. Maybe, just maybe, they thought this was a coordinated attack and more shooters were on the way or already coordinating this amongst each other via cell phone and wanted to end that?
Did that ever occur to you Jag?
What the heck are you going on about? That is a stretch even for someone as ridiculous as you!
They thought there were multiple shooters co-ordinating attacks through cell phones?! ::)
Anybody that thinks they are going to attack the nations largest military base is gonna do their co-ordinations in advance. I was merely responding to HH6's statement that cell phones were not blocked. It WAS widely reported that cell phones were jammed. So someone is providing false information... either ABC news and the individuals who were present on the ground at Ft. Hood, ...or HH6's account is false. It's one or the other. I cast no judgements on their decisions to block cell phones, I was merely stating that contrary to HH6's statement, they were blocked.
btw - I have a new conspiracy theory uncovered a diabolical plot you need to inform the world about.
It turns out the big push against gay marriage, was actually concocted by Republican women, to ensure there was an adequate supply of eligible, marriageable Republican males, ...cause they feared if gay marriage was allowed, ...they'd never find anyone willing to fvck them. As it stands, even with a wedding ring, they have a hard enough time getting their husbands to have sex with them. Other than the obligatory pro-creational kind, ...once they've produced the obligatory 2.5 kids... their hubby's are off having sex with other men. So these Republican women started the whole anti-gay marriage thing to ensure themselves a spouse that would marry them, and wouldn't divorce them to marry their true loves.
You need to tell the whole world. These sneaky witches are tricking men into marrying them and it has to stop. :P
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YES........Guys were able to call their wives and vice versa. Jag...people were saying that there was shots in the housing area and all kinds of crap.....first reports are never accurate. 20th Engineers, stationed at Hood, was with my BDE when they went to NTC this past summer. Those guys lost alot of folks killed and wounded, to this asshole. We've heard all kinds of shit. I don't know what happened exactly but it wasn't Black ops...it wasn't a false flag..it was a MUSLIM shitbag who killed our guys. Don't apologize for..look for an excuse..call it what it is and move on.
Who is apologizing for or making excuses? I'd be happy to call it what it is, ...if and when IT is determined. Right now, there are just a whole lot of questions, not enough answers, and the few answers that are coming down simply do not add up. I highly doubt the full truth of what happened will be revealed, ...i just hope that this time around, people use a little more critical thinking when applied to the pat easy, neat, bow tied answers they are given.
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What the heck are you going on about? That is a stretch even for someone as ridiculous as you!
They thought there were multiple shooters co-ordinating attacks through cell phones?! ::)
Anybody that thinks they are going to attack the nations largest military base is gonna do their co-ordinations in advance. I was merely responding to HH6's statement that cell phones were not blocked. It WAS widely reported that cell phones were jammed. So someone is providing false information... either ABC news and the individuals who were present on the ground at Ft. Hood, ...or HH6's account is false. It's one or the other. I cast no judgements on their decisions to block cell phones, I was merely stating that contrary to HH6's statement, they were blocked.
btw - I have a new conspiracy theory uncovered a diabolical plot you need to inform the world about.
It turns out the big push against gay marriage, was actually concocted by Republican women, to ensure there was an adequate supply of eligible, marriageable Republican males, ...cause they feared if gay marriage was allowed, ...they'd never find anyone willing to fvck them. As it stands, even with a wedding ring, they have a hard enough time getting their husbands to have sex with them. Other than the obligatory pro-creational kind, ...once they've produced the obligatory 2.5 kids... their hubby's are off having sex with other men. So these Republican women started the whole anti-gay marriage thing to ensure themselves a spouse that would marry them, and wouldn't divorce them to marry their true loves.
You need to tell the whole world. These sneaky witches are tricking men into marrying them and it has to stop. :P
Of course not JAGASS. ::) ::)
We only had a recent plot broken up where illegal aliem albanian muslims were plotting an attack on Ft. Dix.
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It turns out the big push against gay marriage, was actually concocted by Republican women, ...cause they feared if gay marriage was allowed, ...they'd never find anyone willing to fvck them.
I don't know about that. Apparently you've never seen the women of Fox!
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I don't know about that. Apparently you've never seen the women of Fox!
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excellent... thank you... facial practice....
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HH6 the wanna be soldier
You couldn't cut any part of this article to pieces because all of this happened the day of this supposed attack. The entire fabricated story being presented by the military and MSM is changing faster than the direction of leaves blowing in the wind.
Uh oh. We got us a poet here.
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Uh oh. We got us a poet here.
lousy metaphor, no alliteration, no rhyme... FAIL ;D
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I don't know about that. Apparently you've never seen the women of Fox!
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It doesn't matter how hot she is. Everyone knows Republican men don't fvck their wives,
...they'll do a guy in a locker room, massage parlour, or bathroom stall, ...but sex with a woman? :o
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It doesn't matter how hot she is. Everyone knows Republican men don't fvck their wives,
...they'll do a guy in a locker room, massage parlour, or bathroom stall, ...but sex with a woman? :o
You sound like an angry, scorned woman. Did you get dumped by a Republican?
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You sound like an angry, scorned woman. Did you get dumped by a Republican?
I wouldn't date a Republican if my life depended on it, ...well, ...if my life depended on it... i might,
...but under no other circumstances.
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Knowledgeable investigator with cut and paste skills and access to CT nuttery web sites.
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I wouldn't date a Republican if my life depended on it, ...well, ...if my life depended on it... i might,
...but under no other circumstances.
You're past your prime. Dont worry about it.