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The 2010 IFBB Schedule is up, but no Ironman Pro show is on the list? Is this a mistake? It was there a week or two ago?
http://www.ifbbpro.com/results/2010-calendar-of-events/
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Yes - details coming soon, with an official press release.
Here is is...
For Immediate Release
(November 13, 2009 – Oxnard, California) Iron Man Magazine Publisher John Balik reported today that the Pro Fight Supplements Iron Man Pro bodybuilding contest, originally slated to take place on Saturday, January 23, 2010, is being rescheduled for an as of yet undetermined date. The contest, which celebrated its 20th Anniversary in 2009, is one of the longest running IFBB Pro shows in the world.
For the last six years, the Iron Man Pro has been held in conjunction with The Bodybuilding.com Los Angeles Fitness Expo, produced by National Fitness Productions. With over 20,000 attendees, 250 exhibitors, and an incredible line-up of fitness, physique, martial arts and strength contests, it is one of the country’s largest and fastest growing consumer fitness expos.
“The Expo has been a huge success and is growing every year” said Balik. “But when it was held in late February, two weeks before the Arnold Classic to accommodate the Iron Man Pro, some companies just couldn’t exhibit at it. Shipping their booths coast-to-coast and asking their staff to work back-to-back expos was just too much for some of them.”
So when National Fitness Productions elected to move the Expo to the third weekend in January last year, dozens more companies were able to come out from the Midwest and East Coast to exhibit. However, as Balik noted, “for the pro bodybuilders, it meant having to train and diet through the holiday season and then try to peak again six weeks later for the Arnold and other IFBB contests that follow it.”
“And in spite of the huge crowds that attend the Expo and the myriad of sponsors that support it, ticket sales to the Iron Man Pro continue to decline, making it a challenge to produce the contest profitably.”
Balik added, "The quality of the athletes is the cornerstone of any events success. The rich twenty year history of the Iron Man Pro is the direct result of the wonderful IFBB athletes who have supported it. From the first winner, Shawn Ray, to the 20th, Silvio Samuel, and the current Mr. Olympia, Jay Cutler, the list of champions is a who's who of IFBB Pro Bodybuilding."
Balik went on to say he is investigating alternative dates and venues at which to hold the Iron Man Pro, either in late February just prior to the Arnold Classic, or perhaps in May around the time of the New York Pro Show.
Moving the Contest to either of these time slots would mean the bodybuilders could gear their training and dieting for multiple shows on back-to-back weekends, giving them chances for multiple paydays and Mr. Olympia qualifying finishes. In turn, the deeper line-ups will hopefully draw more fans to the contests which would be good for the promoters, the sponsors and the sport.
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The Pro Fight Supplements Iron Man Pro is produced by Iron Man Magazine and presented by Gaspari Nutrition.
The Bodybuilding.com Los Angeles Fitness Expo, produced by National Fitness Productions and presented by Gaspari Nutrition, will be held Saturday and Sunday, January 23-24, 2010 at the Los Angeles Convention Center, 1201 South Figueroa Street, South Halls G & H. It will feature the Gaspari Nutrition All-American Strongman Contest, the Con Cret USPF American Cup Powerlifting Meet, Scot Mendelson’s Bench Press Classic, the Champion Nutrition MaxReps Contests, the Gracie National Jiu Jitsu Championships and the Bodyspace Spokesmodel Search. For a complete schedule and ticket information visit www.thefitexpo.com.
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http://www.ironmanpro.com/
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Yes - details coming soon.
Yes what? Yes it's canceled?
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Yes, it is cancelled - the Ironman Bodybuilding contest portion of it. The Fit Expo will go on as planned for the weekend, as will other events.
But until there is a statement from Ironman and the promoter, I am not one to speculate on anything else.
The Ironman Pro contest, in my hometown, was always the first and new start to the beginning of the pro season.
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noooooooooooooo
ron do something!!!!
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jezus this is a staple in the bodybuilding circuit. What ever will they do
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Yes, it is cancelled - the Ironman Bodybuilding contest portion of it. The Fit Expo will go on as planned for the weekend, as will other events.
But until there is a statement from Ironman and the promoter, I am not one to speculate on anything else.
The Ironman Pro contest, in my hometown, was always the first and new start to the beginning of the pro season.
My hometown 2 :'(
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This sucks!!!!! But the show is not the same without Flex, Vince Taylor, and Lee Priest!!!! Or Ken Jones and Jecelyn Peueuehweiwewewe!!!
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jezus this is a staple in the bodybuilding circuit. What ever will they do
I bet the venue has some to do with it. I wish it was back in Redondo Bch. Even El Camino College (one of the 10 JC's I have attended)!!!!!
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it looks like the Phoenix Pro will be taking that "2 week before the Arnold" slot.
http://strykerx.com/
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it looks like the Phoenix Pro will be taking that "2 week before the Arnold" slot.
http://strykerx.com/
Show has Troy Alves written all over it.
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Show has Troy Alves written all over it.
The promoter seems like an interesting guy. The sport could use more personalities.
Who is Stryker?
Stryker discovered his passion for bodybuilding at age 14, when he accepted an invitation to go with four of his friends to the gym (his first time). After watching his friends try to bench 135 lbs unsuccessfully, he took a shot at it himself and ended up repping the weight beyond anyone’s expectations. In immediate envy, his friends left him there and never invited him back. He was left to walk 10 miles back home, but the experience of being left behind by his friends didn’t phase Stryker. His fate was set and he knew during his brief moment of glory that his new passion was the weight room.
After continuing his own training for 3 years, he became the first personal trainer at the very gym he got his start at. He negotiated with the gym owner to get a free membership and get paid $5.00 per day to take care of the gym and help train people. One day, Stryker saw the cover of a magazine someone had brought into the gym with Mr. Olympia 1983 Samir Banout on the cover. From that moment, he was inspired to compete in local bodybuilding competitions with only himself as a trainer. In 1991, he went on to win the light-heavyweight West African title!
Stryker’s a bodybuilder, patriot, father, humanitarian, and passionate about helping people.
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Imagine the NFL canceling week 1...... :-\ Oh, that's right....real sports go on as scheduled. Not so for pageants....I guess.
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Imagine the NFL canceling week 1...... :-\ Oh, that's right....real sports go on as scheduled. Not so for pageants....I guess.
Saves me more money for the Arnold! Or is that cancelled also?
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Yes, it is cancelled - the Ironman Bodybuilding contest portion of it. The Fit Expo will go on as planned for the weekend, as will other events.
But until there is a statement from Ironman and the promoter, I am not one to speculate on anything else.
The Ironman Pro contest, in my hometown, was always the first and new start to the beginning of the pro season.
This is absolutely depressing... I was looking forward to that show! I guess the new AZ Pro Show is going to be LOADED now.
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This is absolutely depressing... I was looking forward to that show! I guess the new AZ Pro Show is going to be LOADED now.
I was looking fwd also. Due to the fact LA is my tit.....ooops my city. But the IM will never be up there with the Arnold. Like Shawn Ray always said "The ticket prices rise every year or so but the reward money stayed low."
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According to Shawn Ray, The 2010 Pro Ironman(started in 1990) has been Canceled!
But the Fit EXPO is still slated for January 23rd & 24th at the Los Angeles Convention Center where Sponsoring Companies will have Booths and Displays.
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is that just this year?
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Chick said that bodybuilding was more popular than ever ::)
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Chick said that bodybuilding was more popular than ever ::)
maybe it is...
but for the most part bodybuilders don't "consume" the product of professional bodybuilding... i.e. tv ratings, attend shows etc.
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According to Shawn Ray from MD forums:http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/showthread.php?t=74359 (http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/showthread.php?t=74359)
And IFBB Pro League:http://www.ifbbpro.com/events/2010-calendar-of-events/ (http://www.ifbbpro.com/events/2010-calendar-of-events/)
The 2010 Pro Ironman(started in 1990) has been Canceled!
But the Fit EXPO is still slated for January 23rd & 24th at the Los Angeles Convention Center where Sponsoring Companies will have Booths and Displays.
WTF? How can they cancel a show thats been held for many years? IFBB needs a new leader for sure, Chick isnt selling enough tickets.
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Chick will say the numbers dont add up ::)
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Chick will say the numbers dont add up ::)
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Maybe all the schmoes are moving to the east coast?
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Maybe all the schmoes are moving to the east coast?
That would explain Chicks move to Florida, he goes where the schmoes go
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this is a shocking development
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Chick said that bodybuilding was more popular than ever ::)
Bodybuilding is popular in the sense that most gyms around the world are packed with people pumping away to look like arnie and stuff themselves with NOexplode and Nitrotech etc...
But as for WATCHING bodybuilding shows..... its another story.
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this is a shocking development
Yes this will ruin our weekend.
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In 2010,11 IFBB Men's Pro contests only.
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In 2010,11 IFBB Men's Pro contests only.
So Muscle you have us confused now are they having the Mens show in 2010 or not?
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That would explain Chicks move to Florida, he goes where the schmoes go
yeah, I can't throw a rock without hitting a schmoe, South FL is no doubt the capital.
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"bodybuilding is bigger than ever"
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Have you ever seen FIBO?
It's the largest bodybuilding and fitness show in the world and doesn't have a bodybuilding contest either, so maybe Fit Expo is about to really take off.
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I think this is actually quite sad. That a 20 year old contest cant generate the intrest to stay afloat. I was there in 08 when Heath won, and there was only a handfull of people that had actually paid for tickets, (there were however more that attended the fit show).
I wonder what Chicks brilliant explanation is for this. ::)
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This one is surprising. Along with the Olympia and Arnold, the Ironman seemed like an institution.
How can there not be a pro show in So Cal?
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:'(
Paco was going to enter it.
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It would be nice to have an official press release.
It's very surprising that noone has stepped up to save the show (Muscletech, bb.com etc.)
Hopefully something will be done.
If the IRONMAN, one of the staples in bb shows is cancelled, should we expect further cancellations of smaller shows too??
How can the athletes start their preparation like this, worrying their show may get cancelled any day?
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Paul Dillet's WBFF is bringing a Pro Men's Division to the USA in 2010 and he is in discussions to make the Ironman a WBFF CONTEST. Great idea.
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maybe 20 years was enough and they felt it was time to move on?
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Paul Dillet's WBFF is bringing a Pro Men's Division to the USA in 2010 and he is in discussions to make the Ironman a WBFF CONTEST. Great idea.
The only problem with Paul Dillet's WBFF is that the quality of the competitor sucks ass
worst than the PDI
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It would be nice to have an official press release.
I talked to John Balik this morning at length. A Press Release will be posted soon.
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I think this is actually quite sad. That a 20 year old contest cant generate the intrest to stay afloat. I was there in 08 when Heath won, and there was only a handfull of people that had actually paid for tickets, (there were however more that attended the fit show).
I wonder what Chicks brilliant explanation is for this. ::)
Why dont you wait till the official press release is posted before making assumptions?
As for any "brilliant explanations"....why would I need one?, I dont promote the show...
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Why don't you wait till the official press release is posted before making assumptions?
As for any "brilliant explanations"....why would I need one?, I dont promote the show...
Well... In the past you have interjected yourself into threads concerning other failed IFBB shows/issues, and you make ridiculous statements like, ""The numbers don't add up," or "Pro Bodybuilding is doing better then ever," (Despite not being a promoter, like you said.)
I wouldn't be giving you a hard time, if you hadn't made a precedent of talking out of your ass.
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You just dont seem to get it, do you? YOU'RE the one talking out of your ass, as you have NOTHING to do with the industry...
And yes, when the numbers DONT add up, any smart promoter will pick up their ball and go home....what other factors are there to consider when assessing the success/ failure of a show?
As for bodybuilding doing better than ever...what proof do you have that its not?
New shows have replaced others that werent viable, Jr. Nats, USA, Nationals all have record numbers this year...Olympia had it's biggest attendance in hstory/ expo was huge.
feel free to spout your insight
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You just dont seem to get it, do you? YOU'RE the one talking out of your ass, as you have NOTHING to do with the industry...
And yes, when the numbers DONT add up, any smart promoter will pick up their ball and go home....what other factors are there to consider when assessing the success/ failure of a show?
As for bodybuilding doing better than ever...what proof do you have that its not?
New shows have replaced others that werent viable, Jr. Nats, USA, Nationals all have record numbers this year...Olympia had it's biggest attendance in hstory/ expo was huge.
feel free to spout your insight
So Chick I guess that Ironman Magazine the sponsor has not put any money up for the show correct?
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Cheap fuckers, they don't really love bodybuilding. They're just leaches on it >:(
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So Chick I guess that Ironman Magazine the sponsor has not put any money up for the show correct?
Only if they signed the contract and sent it in to the pro league office...I wouldnt know if they did or didnt.
Why is this relevant?
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Cheap fuckers, they don't really love bodybuilding. They're just leaches on it >:(
Who are you referring to?
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Only if they signed the contract and sent it in to the pro league office...I wouldnt know if they did or didnt.
Why is this relevant?
Money, sponsors put up the money for the show correct? No money no show.
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Money, sponsors put up the money for the show correct? No money no show.
The promoter, in this case, John Balik, owns Ironman Magazine. His investment would have been the Sanction Fee, and any other related overhead to the show production (i.E.- Securing Venue, promotional materials, etc)
The sponsors are mostly the supplement companies, who pay a fee to the promoter for space/ ad copy for the show...
Some of these are non refundable...
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The promoter, in this case, John Balik, owns Ironman Magazine. His investment would have been the Sanction Fee, and any other related overhead to the show production (i.E.- Securing Venue, promotional materials, etc)
The sponsors are mostly the supplement companies, who pay a fee to the promoter for space/ ad copy for the show...
Some of these are non refundable...
ouch. some ppl got robbed.
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If they really only had approx. 200 paying ticket holders last year, then it's pretty understandable why Balik would choose to forgo the show...
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ouch. some ppl got robbed.
Who? The only people that might have lost money, is the promoter.
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You just dont seem to get it, do you? YOU'RE the one talking out of your ass, as you have NOTHING to do with the industry...
And yes, when the numbers DONT add up, any smart promoter will pick up their ball and go home....what other factors are there to consider when assessing the success/ failure of a show?
As for bodybuilding doing better than ever...what proof do you have that its not?
New shows have replaced others that werent viable, Jr. Nats, USA, Nationals all have record numbers this year...Olympia had it's biggest attendance in hstory/ expo was huge.
feel free to spout your insight
I have Nothing to do with the industry? You have no idea who I am, so this statement is incredibly presumptuous, on your part. I suppose suppling gear to Pros/Amateurs in Venice, somehow doesn't qualify for me being in the loop? ???
You don't want to open up too many cans of worms, so keep it civil.
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I have Nothing to do with the industry? You have no idea who I am, so this statement is incredibly presumptuous, on your part. I suppose suppling gear to Pros/Amateurs in Venice, somehow doesn't qualify for me being in the loop? ???
You don't want to open up too many cans of worms, so keep it civil.
You keep threatening you'll open up some can of worms....LOL....go right ahead. You obviously have me confused with someone who has stuff to hide.
I have kept it civil....now try answering the question I asked.
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If they really only had approx. 200 paying ticket holders last year, then it's pretty understandable why Balik would choose to forgo the show...
That's right. The third biggest pro show in the country and a Poison tribute band outsells them 6:1 that same night. The only way to save the "sport" is to admit it is primarily a venue for homosexuality and endorse that...if it looks gay, sounds gay, and involves oiled men in thongs, it is gay. Pro bodybuilding needs to come out of the closet already.
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That's right. The third biggest pro show in the country and a Poison tribute band outsells them 6:1 that same night. The only way to save the "sport" is to admit it is primarily a venue for homosexuality and endorse that...if it looks gay, sounds gay, and involves oiled men in thongs, it is gay. Pro bodybuilding needs to come out of the closet already.
Yet, oddly enough, anytime BB shows have been held in "gay" areas....they were sparcly attended and folded after the first year.
The only one that needs to come out of the closet....is you.
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240 is predicting SOMEONE will come fwd and rescue this baby. ironman is a mainstay in this sport. Who will be the hero, the force to say they'll help out the show?
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Yet, oddly enough, anytime BB shows have been held in "gay" areas....they were sparcly attended and folded after the first year.
The only one that needs to come out of the closet....is you.
Then the obvious answer is to institute a mandatory gay4pay round in the judging criteria.
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The Ironman was a mainstay, but like any pro show other than the Arnold or Olympia, it was sparsely attended every year. The show was not promoted very well and changed venues too often to "settle in". Add to that the fact that the top bodybuilders don't enter these smaller shows anymore, and it is not that surprising.
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bob
can u plz keep your angry, snide, and snotty posts out of this thread
were trying to keep this thread serious
thanks
The only one that needs to come out of the closet....is you.
You just dont seem to get it, do you? YOU'RE the one talking out of your ass, as you have NOTHING to do with the industry...
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they could rename it the Robert Cicherillo Classic
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If they really only had approx. 200 paying ticket holders last year, then it's pretty understandable why Balik would choose to forgo the show...
Bingo the right answer = seems as if people are losing interest in Pro BB.
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This is a sad day.. the IRONMan show is prestigous and can perhaps claim the #3 most popular show following the Olympia and Arnold weekend. Sure it might be replaced by some new shows, but most new shows have poor attendance and start from the bottom of the pack. Seeing the IRONMan go is quite sad. With all the $5-$10k in sanction fees the IFBB pockets for each show, why not give SOME back and give a helping hand financially to allow shows like the IRONMan to run for another year before the promoters can get their act together for the following year?
The #3 show is now easily the NY Pro.. which is turning into the great show it once was under the NOC name. The rest all light years behind.
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Yet, oddly enough, anytime BB shows have been held in "gay" areas....they were sparsely attended and folded after the first year.
such as? Harrisburg and Denver aren't 'gay' areas.
the problem with the Ironman was they didn't advertise it locally. I saw plenty of ads for the Fit Expo, but you had to look hard to see the Ironman mentioned in small print. The MMA stuff was prominently displayed.
It was a mistake to move the Ironman to a corner of the LA Convention center. The demographics of these expos is not the same as the demographics of bodybuilding contests.
The California Pro Figure is held at the Culver City Auditorium. The Border States Pro Figure is held at a banquet hall that can hold 650 people. The Sacramento Pro Figure is held at an old theater that can seat 975 people. They seem to be doing fine.
Hold the Ironman at Redondo, Culver City, or even at the El Ray Theater near WeHo, and then ADVERTISE LOCALLY, and people will attend.
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such as? Harrisburg and Denver aren't 'gay' areas.
the problem with the Ironman was they didn't advertise it locally. I saw plenty of ads for the Fit Expo, but you had to look hard to see the Ironman mentioned in small print. The MMA stuff was prominently displayed.
It was a mistake to move the Ironman to a corner of the LA Convention center. The demographics of these expos is not the same as the demographics of bodybuilding contests.
The California Pro Figure is held at the Culver City Auditorium. The Border States Pro Figure is held at a banquet hall that can hold 650 people. The Sacramento Pro Figure is held at an old theater that can seat 975 people. They seem to be doing fine.
Hold the Ironman at Redondo, Culver City, or even at the El Ray Theater near WeHo, and then ADVERTISE LOCALLY, and people will attend.
I agree with you Tim, but I am curious, wasn't the San Fran Pro, a complete flop?
Then again, I remember one story from WAyne Demilla, where he got a great turnout, to the Night of Champions, because he put a bunch of ads in some of the local Gay publications.
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For Immediate Release
(November 13, 2009 – Oxnard, California) Iron Man Magazine Publisher John Balik reported today that the Pro Fight Supplements Iron Man Pro bodybuilding contest, originally slated to take place on Saturday, January 23, 2010, is being rescheduled for an as of yet undetermined date. The contest, which celebrated its 20th Anniversary in 2009, is one of the longest running IFBB Pro shows in the world.
For the last six years, the Iron Man Pro has been held in conjunction with The Bodybuilding.com Los Angeles Fitness Expo, produced by National Fitness Productions. With over 20,000 attendees, 250 exhibitors, and an incredible line-up of fitness, physique, martial arts and strength contests, it is one of the country’s largest and fastest growing consumer fitness expos.
“The Expo has been a huge success and is growing every year” said Balik. “But when it was held in late February, two weeks before the Arnold Classic to accommodate the Iron Man Pro, some companies just couldn’t exhibit at it. Shipping their booths coast-to-coast and asking their staff to work back-to-back expos was just too much for some of them.”
So when National Fitness Productions elected to move the Expo to the third weekend in January last year, dozens more companies were able to come out from the Midwest and East Coast to exhibit. However, as Balik noted, “for the pro bodybuilders, it meant having to train and diet through the holiday season and then try to peak again six weeks later for the Arnold and other IFBB contests that follow it.”
“And in spite of the huge crowds that attend the Expo and the myriad of sponsors that support it, ticket sales to the Iron Man Pro continue to decline, making it a challenge to produce the contest profitably.”
Balik added, "The quality of the athletes is the cornerstone of any events success. The rich twenty year history of the Iron Man Pro is the direct result of the wonderful IFBB athletes who have supported it. From the first winner, Shawn Ray, to the 20th, Silvio Samuel, and the current Mr. Olympia, Jay Cutler, the list of champions is a who's who of IFBB Pro Bodybuilding."
Balik went on to say he is investigating alternative dates and venues at which to hold the Iron Man Pro, either in late February just prior to the Arnold Classic, or perhaps in May around the time of the New York Pro Show.
Moving the Contest to either of these time slots would mean the bodybuilders could gear their training and dieting for multiple shows on back-to-back weekends, giving them chances for multiple paydays and Mr. Olympia qualifying finishes. In turn, the deeper line-ups will hopefully draw more fans to the contests which would be good for the promoters, the sponsors and the sport.
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The Pro Fight Supplements Iron Man Pro is produced by Iron Man Magazine and presented by Gaspari Nutrition.
The Bodybuilding.com Los Angeles Fitness Expo, produced by National Fitness Productions and presented by Gaspari Nutrition, will be held Saturday and Sunday, January 23-24, 2010 at the Los Angeles Convention Center, 1201 South Figueroa Street, South Halls G & H. It will feature the Gaspari Nutrition All-American Strongman Contest, the Con Cret USPF American Cup Powerlifting Meet, Scot Mendelson’s Bench Press Classic, the Champion Nutrition MaxReps Contests, the Gracie National Jiu Jitsu Championships and the Bodyspace Spokesmodel Search. For a complete schedule and ticket information visit www.thefitexpo.com.
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You beat me to it Ron... just opened my e-mail from John.
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every other promoter should hire the IRONMan light crew. the best photos of most pro's were taken over the years at the IRONMan. better than a week or two later at the Arnold where they actually peaked. the only show that compared for lighting was one grand prix in Europe in 99
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every other promoter should hire the IRONMan light crew. the best photos of most pro's were taken over the years at the IRONMan. better than a week or two later at the Arnold where they actually peaked. the only show that compared for lighting was one grand prix in Europe in 99
x2 - the lighting was always good for that show. Not sure if it was a combination of the venue and the lighting combined or just the lighting technology itself.
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(November 13, 2009 – Oxnard, California) Iron Man Magazine Publisher John Balik reported today that the Pro Fight Supplements Iron Man Pro bodybuilding contest, originally slated to take place on Saturday, January 23, 2010, is being rescheduled for an as of yet undetermined date. The contest, which celebrated its 20th Anniversary in 2009, is one of the longest running IFBB Pro shows in the world.
For the last six years, the Iron Man Pro has been held in conjunction with The Bodybuilding.com Los Angeles Fitness Expo, produced by National Fitness Productions. With over 20,000 attendees, 250 exhibitors, and an incredible line-up of fitness, physique, martial arts and strength contests, it is one of the country’s largest and fastest growing consumer fitness expos.
“The Expo has been a huge success and is growing every year” said Balik. “But when it was held in late February, two weeks before the Arnold Classic to accommodate the Iron Man Pro, some companies just couldn’t exhibit at it. Shipping their booths coast-to-coast and asking their staff to work back-to-back expos was just too much for some of them.”
So when National Fitness Productions elected to move the Expo to the third weekend in January last year, dozens more companies were able to come out from the Midwest and East Coast to exhibit. However, as Balik noted, “for the pro bodybuilders, it meant having to train and diet through the holiday season and then try to peak again six weeks later for the Arnold and other IFBB contests that follow it.”
“And in spite of the huge crowds that attend the Expo and the myriad of sponsors that support it, ticket sales to the Iron Man Pro continue to decline, making it a challenge to produce the contest profitably.”
Balik added, “The quality of the athletes is the cornerstone of any events success. The rich twenty year history of the Iron Man Pro is the direct result of the wonderful IFBB athletes who have supported it. From the first winner, Shawn Ray, to the 20th, Silvio Samuel, and the current Mr. Olympia, Jay Cutler, the list of champions is a who’s who of IFBB Pro Bodybuilding.”
Balik went on to say he is investigating alternative dates and venues at which to hold the Iron Man Pro, either in late February just prior to the Arnold Classic, or perhaps in May around the time of the New York Pro Show.
Moving the Contest to either of these time slots would mean the bodybuilders could gear their training and dieting for multiple shows on back-to-back weekends, giving them chances for multiple paydays and Mr. Olympia qualifying finishes. In turn, the deeper line-ups will hopefully draw more fans to the contests which would be good for the promoters, the sponsors and the sport.
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I just caught that same story on CNN and ESPNews channels.
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ticket sales to the Iron Man Pro continue to decline
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I just caught that same story on CNN and ESPNews channels.
Obama is talking about it on CSPAN right now! Coming up with a new stimulus program for schmoes.
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I just caught that same story on CNN and ESPNews channels.
I saw it on the cover of the NY Times and Wall St. Journal this morning ... ::) ::) ::) ::)
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I saw it on the cover of the NY Times and Wall St. Journal this morning ... ::) ::) ::) ::)
Yeah, this story really has legs...
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Yeah, this story really has legs...
like joel stubbs
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I am pretty bummed out by this news. I was making plans to hit the IM this yr, instead of the Arnold , for a new experience in BB.
The reality is that a lot of pro BB shows, don't get promoted in a consistant fashion.Even when they go on as planned, getting ADVANCE tickets is a hassle.
Over the years, I have seen shows come and go on the IFBB pro circuit.
This is part of the reason why I returned to being a hockey and baseball fan again.
Dealing with an NHL and MLB franchise for season tickets is lot less hassle than trying to get tickets for most pro BB events.
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x2 - the lighting was always good for that show. Not sure if it was a combination of the venue and the lighting combined or just the lighting technology itself.
It's the work of Michael Neveux, Iron Man photographer and part-owner. The venue has changed 4-5 times and the technology of course, is always improving but Mike is a genius in that arena.
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It's the work of Michael Neveux, Iron Man photographer and part-owner. The venue has changed 4-5 times and the technology of course, is always improving but Mike is a genius in that arena.
Ah yes Mike Neveux - I used to have a physique photgraphy book by him - he was the guy who shot the Haney lat spread in New York with the steam coming out of the subway behind him - very good photographer.
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every other promoter should hire the IRONMan light crew. the best photos of most pro's were taken over the years at the IRONMan. better than a week or two later at the Arnold where they actually peaked. the only show that compared for lighting was one grand prix in Europe in 99
x 2, my shredded friend
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Really the supplement companies are to blame. I mean they make billions off of bbers yet can't fund a proper bbing show?
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Really the supplement companies are to blame. I mean they make billions off of bbers yet can't fund a proper bbing show?
they make billions off of teens and twenty-somethings who go to the gym, but never have seen a bodybuilding show. The people who attend the shows (amateur and pro) really don't buy the supplements.
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Really the supplement companies are to blame. I mean they make billions off of bbers yet can't fund a proper bbing show?
I blame the drug companies, Schering,Organon,British Dispensary,Pliva etc make so much money off bodybuilders that they should sponsor some shows
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shame ,,,the best lighting and pics are taken at this show period....
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shame ,,,the best lighting and pics are taken at this show period....
Somewhere, a kitchen klassic has just overtaken the ironman for Best Bodybuilding Lighting.
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LT shot out an email via his blog on Ironman regarding the show being postponed.
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Really the supplement companies are to blame. I mean they make billions off of bbers yet can't fund a proper bbing show?
I doubt they make billions, though I do see your point. But in reality not a lot of these companies make much to stay in business. A lot of them end up getting bought out. Over a decade ago, Weider MetRx and Twinlab were battling for athletes, now its M-tech , BSN, and Gaspari! But this sport is hard to sell tickets to the outside world. Most tix are given out free to IFBBers (or vouched or something like that) the rest are purchased by family members and poor NPC guys like me. : :'(
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Poor business managing.
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i guess bodybuilding is "not bigger than ever",
huh dumbass?
The promoter, in this case, John Balik, owns Ironman Magazine. His investment would have been the Sanction Fee, and any other related overhead to the show production (i.E.- Securing Venue, promotional materials, etc)
The sponsors are mostly the supplement companies, who pay a fee to the promoter for space/ ad copy for the show...
Some of these are non refundable...
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i guess bodybuilding is "not bigger than ever",
huh dumbass?
The Europa Conneticut and Phoenix Pro are new additions to the schedule
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Hope the cancellation of this show doesn't force these professional athletes ::) to do anything gay for money.
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Do bodybuilders and fans REALLY want the expo? I mean I love the free stuff (samples) but the those expos are just so crowded with meat heads. To this day i am still getting junk mail and emails from some vendor at the ASC back in 2005!
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Do bodybuilders and fans REALLY want the expo? I mean I love the free stuff (samples) but the those expos are just so crowded with meat heads. To this day i am still getting junk mail and emails from some vendor at the ASC back in 2005!
I know I would be more interested in attending the Olympia Expo than the actual show.
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and new subtractions from the following years schedule.
Q - how can a show with 20+ years of history/prestige suddenly get canceled?
A - less paying gays in attendance & bodybuilding is not bigger than ever.
hope this helps
The Europa Conneticut and Phoenix Pro are new additions to the schedule
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I know I would be more interested in attending the Olympia Expo than the actual show.
I guess it depeds on the meathead ooops I mean person. But being more interested in the expo than the actual show is like going to a football game for the tailgate instead of the actual game. Go figure! ???
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its a shame.
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OMG DrugFest '10 is cancelled????!!!
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Lonnie Teper will have to wait until the Arnold Classic for his next grope fest. He must be crushed right now.
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Lonnie Teper will have to wait until the Arnold Classic for his next grope fest. He must be crushed right now.
:D
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Do bodybuilders and fans REALLY want the expo? I mean I love the free stuff (samples) but the those expos are just so crowded with meat heads. To this day i am still getting junk mail and emails from some vendor at the ASC back in 2005!
The expo was originally added to help boost ticket sales. It never worked out that way.
Why don't you just opt-out OR block them?
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Wow how many shows have died over the years??This one is GONE.
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the industry died more than two decades ago...it is the supplement companies who continue to rip-off the naive and ignorant adolescents that are helping to prop-up a dead horse.
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Ye know too much.You my friend are an insider.
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What ever happened to the European show that was cancelled last year that Chick argued black and blue would be on this year?
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What ever happened to the European show that was cancelled last year that Chick argued black and blue would be on this year?
What show would that be?
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What show would that be?
The Berlin show I assume.
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What show would that be?
The show that was cancelled last year but you claimed would def be happening this year.
In Germany I think.
Whats the story with that? Any reason its not happening?