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Title: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: jaejonna on November 13, 2009, 11:49:52 PM
Filipino Supremacy on display here....KO within 5 rounds, Cotto gets caught and has a suspect chin, Manny too fast and hits too hard. Pound for pound champion ready for Floyd.
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: The_Hammer on November 13, 2009, 11:57:37 PM
Filipino Supremacy on display here....KO within 5 rounds, Cotto gets caught and has a suspect chin, Manny too fast and hits too hard. Pound for pound champion ready for Floyd.

You know nothing about Miguel Cotto.

This is the biggest toss up fight of Manny's career.  Cotto is the most dangerous welterweight in the division.  Floyd Mayweather has been ducking Cotto for years.

Cotto is undefeated.  The supposed loss to Margarito should be a NC because of his illegal handwraps.
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: The_Hammer on November 13, 2009, 11:59:11 PM


Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on November 14, 2009, 12:25:47 AM
Filipino Supremacy on display here....KO within 5 rounds, Cotto gets caught and has a suspect chin, Manny too fast and hits too hard. Pound for pound champion ready for Floyd.
When is the fight? Manny is one fast tough bastard. Cotto not bad but Manny wins again.
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: LatsMcGee on November 14, 2009, 12:27:48 AM
Manny's handspeed will be too much for Cotto. 
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: The_Hammer on November 14, 2009, 02:48:54 AM


Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: johnnynoname on November 14, 2009, 02:50:04 AM
aren't Filipino's like the "Puerto Ricans" of the Asian race?
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on November 14, 2009, 02:50:58 AM
aren't Filipino's like the "Puerto Ricans" of the Asian race?
Lets ask kyomu he may know the answer
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: JasonH on November 14, 2009, 04:10:25 AM
I think Pac will win this one easily.
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: dov on November 14, 2009, 04:54:11 AM
I think Pac will win this one easily.
Agreed
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: big L dawg on November 14, 2009, 05:51:21 AM
Either one would beat Floyd..
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: polychronopolous on November 14, 2009, 06:12:51 AM
Mannys work rate will be too much for Cotto. No way Manny will KO him. I'd say Pacman by decision.

He might not be able to win via KO but I certainly think Manny has proven himself in the last two fights of having the punching power at 140 pounds to be able to stop Cotto via TKO stoppage.
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: jaejonna on November 14, 2009, 07:40:58 AM
You know nothing about Miguel Cotto.

This is the biggest toss up fight of Manny's career.  Cotto is the most dangerous welterweight in the division.  Floyd Mayweather has been ducking Cotto for years.

Cotto is undefeated.  The supposed loss to Margarito should be a NC because of his illegal handwraps.
you stupid f8ck, ive watched cotto his whole career ...he isnt fast enough and has a suspect chin (torres) ...you'll see
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: Joel_A on November 14, 2009, 08:07:22 AM
you stupid f8ck, ive watched cotto his whole career ...he isnt fast enough and has a suspect chin (torres) ...you'll see

Being Filipino I am always rooting for Pacquiao, but Cotto will be tough. I remember watching his fight with Judah and thinking to myself there is no way Manny would stand a chance against him. Of course Manny weighed 125 at the time.

I am hoping Manny wins but won't be surprised at all if Cotto beats him. If I were to bet, I will put my money on Cotto, but root for Pacquiao. Weird.
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 14, 2009, 08:12:02 AM
"Both are too light to fight and too thin to win"......ode to Dave.
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: George Whorewell on November 14, 2009, 08:14:58 AM
Cotto lost one fight in his entire career where I think its pretty obvious the winner cheated.

Manny is going to have his hands full. Cotto is younger and stronger. Manny is faster and has a better chin.

I think its a toss up, but Manny will probably pull off a late ko or decision.
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: local hero on November 14, 2009, 08:18:38 AM
Either one would beat Floyd..

your joking right?
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: jaejonna on November 14, 2009, 09:13:28 AM
Being Filipino I am always rooting for Pacquiao, but Cotto will be tough. I remember watching his fight with Judah and thinking to myself there is no way Manny would stand a chance against him. Of course Manny weighed 125 at the time.

I am hoping Manny wins but won't be surprised at all if Cotto beats him. If I were to bet, I will put my money on Cotto, but root for Pacquiao. Weird.

Joel_A since your filipino feel free to post what you want on this board, you will be 'protected' from the tits and schmoes ...

 
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 14, 2009, 09:19:26 AM
Filipino Supremacy on display here....KO within 5 rounds, Cotto gets caught and has a suspect chin, Manny too fast and hits too hard. Pound for pound champion ready for Floyd.

I agree. It won't be as bad but he will destroy Cotto the same way he destroyed Hatten. I've seen him hit mits a couple of time at Wild Card and the dude is just sick fast.
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: Joel_A on November 14, 2009, 10:17:24 AM
Joel_A since your filipino feel free to post what you want on this board, you will be 'protected' from the tits and schmoes ...

 

What is this, Filipino Mafia/Yakuza?
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: Go 4 It on November 14, 2009, 10:23:08 AM
Manny all the way!!! I've been watching/taping this 24/7 series since it's original debut with Mayweather, this shit is the best to watch while doing cardio..inspiring stuff! Can't wait for the fight tonight!! Oh yeah and Stallones cameo on the last 24-7 was the shit!
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: jaejonna on November 14, 2009, 10:51:26 AM
Does anyone here pick mayweather if pac were to fight him?
coin flip
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: The_Hammer on November 14, 2009, 11:04:36 AM
Manny was able to utilize his speed against a very slow De La Hoya and Hatton who has zero technical boxing skills. 

Cotto is as much of a boxing technician as you'll ever see in the sport.  The holes in ODLH and Hatton's defense won't be there.

I like both fighter's equally, but Cotto is a huge step up in competition.  The last time Manny fought someone as dangerous was Juan Manuel Marquez, but Cotto is more technical and powerful.

If Cotto can handle Mosley's explosiveness then he can handle Pacman's.  This fight will come down to whether Pacman has become a boxer and not a brawler.
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: Go 4 It on November 14, 2009, 11:16:22 AM
I think Manny is going to out work Cotto, the dude is a energizer bunny, he fights full throttle every round, the guy never dies out it's nuts!
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: Purple Aki on November 14, 2009, 11:32:11 AM
I really want Cotto to snap him in half with bodyshots, but I have a horrible feeling that Manny's going to stop him late.

I will then have an epic Meltdown. Like when he beat Barrera.
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: big L dawg on November 14, 2009, 11:45:05 AM
your joking right?

nope...it would be a coin flip with cotto...but pac...

Does anyone here pick mayweather if pac were to fight him?

I give pac a 99.9% chance of beating Floyd....

that being said you will never see the fight as Floyd will and has avoided him like the plague
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 14, 2009, 12:48:26 PM
I would like to see a handicap match, MMA style, between these two waifs and either Lesnar or Fedor.
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on November 14, 2009, 01:08:47 PM
toss up fight
People forget that Cotto beat Shane Mosley and even outboxed him in the later rounds

I got a bet for 1/11 for Cotto to win by decision but I think manny will win
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: powermaxx9 on November 14, 2009, 04:20:20 PM
manny wins bitches, i shook my magic 8 ball this very morning.   it is decidely so.
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 14, 2009, 08:14:36 PM
They just said Manny has to take in 7000 calories a day to keep up with his training!!!!!
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: Necrosis on November 14, 2009, 08:23:33 PM
so funny people saying pacman would rape mayweather, i suggest you go back and watch how dominating he truly was.
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: The_Hammer on November 14, 2009, 08:41:57 PM
Let's Get It on Motherf*ckers!
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: The_Hammer on November 14, 2009, 08:53:16 PM
Cotto wins RD1
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: Captain Equipoise on November 14, 2009, 08:55:05 PM
nope...it would be a coin flip with cotto...but pac...

I give pac a 99.9% chance of beating Floyd....

that being said you will never see the fight as Floyd will and has avoided him like the plague

pac's alive ?!!!?? omg, all this time we thought he was gone!!

tupac's back!!!
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: The_Hammer on November 14, 2009, 08:57:08 PM
Pacman wins RD2

Blinding speed displayed by Pacman!
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: The_Hammer on November 14, 2009, 09:01:30 PM
Cotto working the jab beautifully.

Manny catches Cotto and he takes a knee!

Cotto coming back with hard combos.  What a fight! :o

RD3 Pacman
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: Captain Equipoise on November 14, 2009, 09:04:29 PM
oh shit it's on tonight ??? I thought the only fights tonight were ufc..
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: The_Hammer on November 14, 2009, 09:05:48 PM
Cotto tightens his defense and Pac hasn't slowed.

Cotto landing the harder punches.  Manny up against the ropes eating punches!

Pacman comes back and drops Cotto!

OMFG what a fight!

RD4 Pacman
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: The_Hammer on November 14, 2009, 09:10:08 PM
Pacman still working angles and landing.

Cotto catches Pacman with a hard uppercut and left hook which whiplashes Pac.

Pacman still has a spring.  Landing more with power.

RD5 Cotto
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: The_Hammer on November 14, 2009, 09:13:59 PM
Pac still very quick landing punches.  Cotto has slowed considerably.

Pac lands a hard shot which almost drops Cotto.  Cotto launches a comb which almost drops Manny.

RD6 Pac
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: The_Hammer on November 14, 2009, 09:17:28 PM
Manny controlling the ring and landing hard shots.  Cotto looks broken.

RD7 Pacman
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: Chevron427 on November 14, 2009, 09:22:09 PM
http://www.tv2t.com/watch/Live/1900_GMT_Boxing_-_cotto_vs_pacman/flash2


Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: The_Hammer on November 14, 2009, 09:22:24 PM
The pace has slowed as Manny chases Cotto around the ring landing 2-3 punch combos.  

Cotto tightening up and landing some well placed punches.

Pacman lighting Cotto up! Cotto doesn't look good!

RD8 Pacman
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: Palpatine Q on November 14, 2009, 09:25:29 PM
http://www.tv2t.com/watch/Live/1900_GMT_Boxing_-_cotto_vs_pacman/flash2




Thanks brother.  where the fuck were you round 1  ;D
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: The_Hammer on November 14, 2009, 09:26:14 PM
Pacman simply dominating. What an amazing athlete!

LOL at bodybuilding!

I'll stop now that a link has been provided!

Congrats Pacman, it's a foregone conclusion.
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: Chevron427 on November 14, 2009, 09:29:13 PM
Thanks brother.  where the fuck were you round 1  ;D


AAHHA just walked in and found it myself :)
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: Chevron427 on November 14, 2009, 09:33:31 PM
Cotto is one tough SOB to take that punishment and keep dancing
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 14, 2009, 09:37:36 PM
Damn, Manny is so freaking fast!!
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: Palpatine Q on November 14, 2009, 09:38:32 PM
Geez...he beat the piss out of him.

You know what would have made it a better fight.....if they could drag each other to the ground and roll around  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 14, 2009, 09:40:33 PM
Boxing is much more brutal than mma!
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: Flexb on November 14, 2009, 09:41:01 PM
I called Pac by TKO in 6. Just 5.5 rounds off  ;D
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: che on November 14, 2009, 09:53:20 PM
 Manny , top 3 fighter of all time ,unbelievable.
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: bigkubby on November 14, 2009, 11:42:13 PM
mannys sick as fuk little guy with a great chin and second to none punch that little nigg mayweather should be shaking in his panties  ???
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: Hypo on November 15, 2009, 05:30:19 AM
First man in history to win titles in 9 different weight divisions!  :o
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: Mr Nobody on November 15, 2009, 05:32:17 AM
Manny pound for pound one of the best all time.
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: Purple Aki on November 15, 2009, 07:18:16 AM
Once Manny moves up and beats David Haye he should go into the UFC. He could make literally hundreds of thousands of dollars!
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: spinnis on November 15, 2009, 07:22:47 AM
Once Manny moves up and beats David Haye he should go into the UFC. He could make literally hundreds of thousands of dollars!

fuck you lol

he probably wants to fight with pillows and rest 3 min of each 5 min round or how a boxing round is
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: big L dawg on November 15, 2009, 07:27:26 AM
Pacman is the greatest boxer of all time....Floyd knows that also....thats why the fight wont happen....
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: Purple Aki on November 15, 2009, 07:29:45 AM
Pacman is the greatest boxer of all time....Floyd knows that also....thats why the fight wont happen....

*rolling noise*

That sounds like Sugar Ray Robinson
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: big L dawg on November 15, 2009, 07:57:42 AM
LAS VEGAS – The History Channel was among the many sponsors of the Manny Pacquiao-Miguel Cotto fight Saturday at the MGM Grand Garden Arena, which, in an odd sort of way, was appropriate.

Pacquiao made history on Saturday when he battered Miguel Cotto over 11-plus brutal rounds, winning the World Boxing Organization welterweight title in one of the finest performances of a brilliant career
 

Pacquiao dropped Cotto in the third and fourth rounds, landed 43 percent of his punches and mercifully stopped the game Puerto Rican 55 seconds into the final round when referee Kenny Bayless jumped in to save Cotto.

Cotto’s trainer, Joe Santiago, ought to be flogged for not stopping it sooner. Cotto never recovered after the second knockdown, which came in the fourth round, and spent most of the final seven-plus rounds trying to fend off a man who was far too fast, far too slick and far too talented.

Pacquiao’s performance was so good that no one laughed when promoter Bob Arum said he believes Pacquiao is the best fighter he ever saw. And yes, Arum included Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard and Marvelous Marvin Hagler in that group.

The pay-per-view numbers were tracking exceptionally well, also. HBO’s Mark Taffet said indications on Friday were that the show is tracking to do at least 1 million buys. Taffet is notoriously conservative, but the fight is likely to zoom well past 1 million and may approach – or even exceed – 1.5 million sales.

HBO Sports president Ross Greenburg said that Golden Boy Promotions chief executive officer Richard Schaefer plans to call Arum on Monday in order to start negotiations on a Pacquiao-Floyd Mayweather Jr. bout that would be the richest in the sport’s history.

There’s little question that promoters are going to be under intense public pressure to make a match between Pacquiao and Mayweather, the two men with a claim to the mythical title of pound-for-pound champion.

Mayweather’s grip weakened significantly on Saturday after Pacquiao’s stellar performance, and it may weaken more if the pay-per-view results come in well above 1 million.

Arum wasn’t so eager to take Schaefer’s call, at least not on Monday. Given preliminary pay-per-view figures are due on Tuesday, Arum prefers to wait. Mayweather’s victory over Juan Manuel Marquez in September sold 1 million on pay-per-view. “Tell Richard to wait until Wednesday to call me,” Arum said.


Pacquiao’s speed was the most obvious difference between the men, though it was hardly the only one. Pacquiao was once a one-dimensional, one-handed fighter with plenty of holes defensively.

On Saturday, Cotto faced a two-fisted fighter who was in command every second of the fight. His defense was tight, his ring generalship magnificent and his power was overwhelming.

“He’s the best boxer I ever fought,” Cotto said in the understatement of the night. Pacquiao was typically humble, refusing to compare himself to the legends of the game that Arum said he has surpassed.

“I just think I’m an ordinary fighter,” Pacquiao said. “When I fight a good fighter, sometimes I can beat him.”

Hearing that, his trainer, Freddie Roach, chided him.

“You’re not ordinary,” Roach said.

Pacquiao, who has taken to calling Roach his “boxing master,” beamed.

“Sorry, Master,” he replied.

It was probably the only thing he had to apologize about. Roach said Pacquiao didn’t stick to the game plan in the first two rounds, backing to the ropes, a style that Cotto clearly preferred.

Roach urged him to get off the ropes. Once he did, it was no contest.

“Manny Pacquiao is just unbelievable,” Roach said. “The first couple of rounds, I was a little bit worried, because he didn’t follow the plan. Toward the end of the second round, he got into the program and he made it look easy after that.”

Pacquiao was so good on Saturday, he was singing at the post-fight news conference and planned to head across the street to Mandalay Bay to sing eight songs in a concert.

The song he played in the ring was as good as has been seen in a long time. He debunked many popular theories and took many of Mayweather’s arguments away from him.

If Mayweather doesn’t take the fight, he’ll simply be running.

There’s no other way to put it.

“Manny can punch with any 147-pounder in the world,” Roach said. “He has great power and speed. He proved everything tonight.”

Pacquiao has now claimed sanctioning body titles at flyweight, super bantamweight, super featherweight, lightweight and welterweight and he won the linear championship at both featherweight and super lightweight.

There’s little the man can’t do. And Roach, who began training Pacquiao in 2001, wasn’t about to disagree much with Arum’s assessment of Pacquiao’s greatness.

“He’s as good as anybody,” Roach said. “He’s the greatest fighter of his generation. I agree 100 percent.”

As good as Mayweather was in September in dismantling Marquez, Pacquiao was that much better. Pacquiao fought a bigger, stronger and better man and beat him into submission.

A clash between Mayweather and Pacquiao would be one of those epic battles that come only once every 25 years or so.

And while it once seemed inconceivable that Pacquiao could ever deal with Mayweather’s speed and defensive prowess, it isn’t any more.

Anyone who doubts the guy now is a fool.

Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: jaejonna on November 15, 2009, 11:16:18 AM
Cotto loves getting his ass beat, tougher to keep him down than in getting him to go down in the first place. Manny did try to ko him in the 4th and make my prediction stand but didnt succeed. Cotto had Manny in the first round then I think Manny woke up or something lol ...hahahahah But my man from General Santos did it again hahhahaha bring on Floyd, Manny hits too hard and is fast enuf to catch Mayweather when he plays hide and seek !!!!
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: Fury on November 15, 2009, 11:20:48 AM
Once Manny moves up and beats David Haye he should go into the UFC. He could make literally hundreds of thousands of dollars!

Hahaha.  :D
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: mesmorph78 on November 15, 2009, 11:59:52 AM
im gonna see how long mayweather plans to dodge pac....
is because he know pac will punch him in that smart shit talking mouth of his...
Title: Re: Pacman vs Cotto Fight Thread
Post by: noworries on November 15, 2009, 04:15:26 PM
Well this should quiet down the guys on here who think boxing is dead.  If it was (which it wasn't) it seems to be back to life now