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Can't think of a better boxer in the past 3 decades. He has completely overshadowed Floyd Mayweather. He has become a bigger cash cow than Oscar De La Hoya.
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Can't think of a better boxer in the past 3 decades. He has completely overshadowed Floyd Mayweather. He has become a bigger cash cow than Oscar De La Hoya.
He is great, that's for sure.
Mayweather will never step in the ring with him, damn shame
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I agree, the only other boxer I can think of that even comes close to his speed was Sugar Ray Leonard.
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I agree
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I agree, the only other boxer I can think of that even comes close to his speed was Sugar Ray Leonard.
I was thinking the same thing watching that fight. same speed, throws HARD combos at all times, great ring movement and instincts
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i would be the shit out of that stool painter ;D
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fuck bno manny can take a punch and mayweather is a little bitch thats gonna get dropped like his little sisters panties and mike tyson knows that true
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Leonard was better but thats about it!!
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In before falcon ruins this thread also
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Pacquiao’s performance was so good that no one laughed when promoter Bob Arum said he believes Pacquiao is the best fighter he ever saw. And yes, Arum included Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard and Marvelous Marvin Hagler in that group.
Bob Arum has seen more fights than most of us put together....He knows his shit....for him to state that means a little more than anonymous people on the internets bickering over who's the best.
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I might actually watch this pillow fight..
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I might actually watch this pillow fight..
If Pacman Mayweather actually fight it will be the first time in years I lay my $ down to watch boxing on PPV.
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rocky marciano
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Pacman was awesome - made Cotto look amateurish.
Hate to be pessimistic though but something tells me we'll never see Mayweather get in the ring with Manny. :-\
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Just watched it on sky sports,it was like watching a wildlife documentary where a killer whale plays with a baby seal.At the end Pac didn`t look like he`d even been in a fight yet Cotto looked like he`d been hit by a truck.Made me smile when the commentator said that Pac was booked in to sing at a concert a couple of hours after the fight,now thats confidence.
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Randal Tex Cobb the best ever he could take a fucking beating ;D
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Nobody can really exchange punches with Pacman because they'll just get tagged.
To beat Pacquioa you have to box/counter punch him and thats why I believe Mayweather will be the favourite if they ever fought
Pacquiao has not only speed but serious power and accuracy aswell, those uppercuts killed Cotto.
I wont go as far as saying Pacquiao is as good as Ali but IMO he is definetly nearing that stage. top 10 ATG for sure
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Randal Tex Cobb the best ever he could take a fucking beating ;D
isn't that the star of uncommon valor the move-thee.
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I hope the public turns on Mayweather to were he's forced to fight Manny...He wants all this money not realising he isn't a big draw his oppenents are...He is boring as fuck and if he steps in that right with Manny he's gonna get his as beat...
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isn't that the star of uncommon valor the move-thee.
Best one I remember him for is Raising Arizona.
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Best one I remember him for is Raising Arizona.
I remember him in Ernest goes to Jail
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I remember him from Naked Gun
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I remember him from Naked Gun
Randall Tex is one tough muthafucker, I remember he fought someone cant remember who they beat the fuck out of him round after round but he still wouldnt go down. Wouldnt want to meet him in a dark alley for sure
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Honorable Mention: Roy Jones Jr.
This was his rematch with Griffin after he was DQ'd in their first fight, after which Griffen was saying he would've beat
Jones anyways ;D
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Pacquiao v Mayweather would be an awesome fight. Manny was just incredible against Cotto, with some of the most accurate and fast punches i have ever seen. Mayweather is technically the best defensive boxer competing today.
Lets hope they can get it on.
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.... not to make early predictions, but I hope Floyd and Manny do fight.
My opinion, Floyd beats Manny. When I was watching the brutality Manny put on Cotto I noticed that as soon as Cotto started shifting around in the ring and boxing Manny, instead of engaging, Manny was off balance. Even though Manny knocked him down If Cotto had the retreat and fight skills that Floyd has (and has perfected) it would have been a much closer fight.
Manny is a sharp, strong fighter with a ill will to win, but Floyd hates to lose in fact he hasn't lost? He thinks in the ring and sees everything. It will be an interesting fight if it ever takes place....My 2 cents
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People have to realise that Cotto was more or less made for Pacquiao because he was a come forward type of fighter, he has good boxing skills but its no comparison to fighters like Marquez and Mayweather.
Pacquiao would not be the favourite against Floyd Mayweather.
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People have to realise that Cotto was more or less made for Pacquiao because he was a come forward type of fighter, he has good boxing skills but its no comparison to fighters like Marquez and Mayweather.
Pacquiao would not be the favourite against Floyd Mayweather.
Doesn't matter Manny would win by TKO
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PacMan vs. PBF would be the fight of the 2000's so far.
I lean towards Mayweather. I don't know if Pac can get a good shot at him,
although PBF can get lazy in there. Pacman is a machine.
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If we get to see Pacman vs Mayweather then we'll know what's what.
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Ali has Frazieritis.
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Hard fight to call.
Manny is fucking great, no doubt.
But as much as we can call Mayweather a pussy....he's great too. He would be by far the best fighter manny has ever faced
Mayweather destroys everyone who gets in the ring with him as well. He beat Hatton much worse than Manny beat Cotto, and Hatton's toughness is well known
Edit: I fucked up. I was thinking of when Manny killed Hatton.
Still a toss-up
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Randall Tex is one tough muthafucker, I remember he fought someone cant remember who they beat the fuck out of him round after round but he still wouldnt go down. Wouldnt want to meet him in a dark alley for sure
that was the easton assasin larry holmes who pummeled him.
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that was the easton assasin larry holmes who pummeled him.
Larry Holmes couldn't carry Manny P's jockstrap.
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Pacman has fought tougher competition than Floyd...and there common opponent's pacman beat more soundly than Floyd....
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Yeah Late 90's Roy Jones was awesome.
Should never have gone up to heavyweight to fight Ruiz.
Lost all his speed when he fought Antonio Tarver the second time.
One of the best knockouts I have ever seen.
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The Road to Dallas!
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I'll shit in my hat if Clottey beats Manny...but i just have a weird feeling, that dude looks a LOT bigger than Manny
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7 titles in 7 different weight classes...The guy is the best to ever step into the ring PERIOD!!!
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7 titles in 7 different weight classes...The guy is the best to ever step into the ring PERIOD!!!
Steroids RULE
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Steroids RULE
Why are you saying that Groink?
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Clottey will be Manny's toughest fight to date IMO.
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Why are you saying that Groink?
I don't KNOW anything obviously...but a guy that goes from 112 to 147 and doesn't lose a lick of speed and punching power just makes me scratch my head a little.
It's unprecedented
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Clottey will be Manny's toughest fight to date IMO.
I'm probably gonna wind up eating my words but that's what I'm thinking too
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Oh....one more thing ;D
If someone has a feed to the fight don't wait until the 9th round to tell us about it this time :P
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I don't KNOW anything obviously...but a guy that goes from 112 to 147 and doesn't lose a lick of speed and punching power just makes me scratch my head a little.
It's unprecedented
EPO, GH, insulin...
bench
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I don't KNOW anything obviously...but a guy that goes from 112 to 147 and doesn't lose a lick of speed and punching power just makes me scratch my head a little.
It's unprecedented
Check this out Groink
http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/The_Rumble/entry/view/48832/is_pacquiao_impossible?_why_steroid_accusations_are_baseless
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Check this out Groink
http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/The_Rumble/entry/view/48832/is_pacquiao_impossible?_why_steroid_accusations_are_baseless
Makes sense...like i said...i don't know shit, still can't figure why he turned down 50 mil over a blood test
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Makes sense...like i said...i don't know shit, still can't figure why he turned down 50 mil over a blood test
Yeah ,I don't know.
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Yeah ,I don't know.
My own opinion is Floyd really didn't want to fight him, and Manny really didn't want to take those tests...so nobody really complained.
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A lot of casual fans in this thread. Marquez beat Pac twice with fair officiating. Manny has improved and continues to do so, he is a great fighter, exceptional in fact. I would still struggle to put him top 30 all time though, there have been a lot of great fighters and he is one of many.
Mayweather is a very bad style matchup for him.
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What do you think about punisher paul williams?
Great fighter...needs to sit down on his punches a little more and take people out. his last fight was a borderline gift
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A lot of casual fans in this thread. Marquez beat Pac twice with fair officiating. Manny has improved and continues to do so, he is a great fighter, exceptional in fact. I would still struggle to put him top 30 all time though, there have been a lot of great fighters and he is one of many.
Mayweather is a very bad style matchup for him.
Agreed. people say "yeah but Manny's gonna come after him and hit him" like everybody he ever fought hasn't tried to do the same thing
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1. manny ducked a 40mill fight with mayweather because he didnt want to take a blood test
2. he wanted to fight mosley at 140 when mosley hasnt been at that weight for almost 10 years thinking mosley will back out. when mosley said yes he bitched out
3. he is being fed fighter that go well with his style.
4. if he fights mayweather he will get schooled like no tomorrow and if anyone thinks other wise i suggest you go watch any of mayweathers fights
5. since when did an asian become the greatest fighter since ali considering he has never fought any good black opponents.
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They didn't have time to promote the fight correctly. Manny wanted to get it on right away and Floyd didn't. Plus Arum and Top Rank have beef with the Mayweather camp. There's alot to it. The only card Mayweather could draw to get out of the event was drug tests. The idea flopped, everybody still loves Manny, Manny is gonna sell 2 million PPV buys, and Sugar Shane is going to expose Mayweather May 1st. After Manny beats Clottey by unanimous decision tomorrow. Manny gets the winner of the May 1st fight to unify. If Manny does that it's either retirement or moving up yet another weight class.
Either way Mayweather made the biggest mistake of his life retiring in his prime. Totally dropped the ball with a rematch with De La Hoya and choose TV instead. His days are numbered and he will turn into just another opponent just like Holyfield and Roy Jones. No doubt 100% guaranteed once this guy losses he's gonna keep on loosing and keep on fighting. Thats the Money Mayweather I'm looking forward to watching.
Yup. there was a lot more to it than I'll ever know.
it just seemed to me that neither side lost any sleep that the fight was scuttled
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He is great, that's for sure.
Mayweather will never step in the ring with him, damn shame
Because Pac refuses to take random blood tests. Pac is on something. Nobody, and I mean nobody, runs away from a 30 million dollar teaspoon of blood -- unless you're hiding something. He's so guilty
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Can't think of a better boxer in the past 3 decades. He has completely overshadowed Floyd Mayweather. He has become a bigger cash cow than Oscar De La Hoya.
No he hasn't. Oscar made more money with warm-up fights.
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I agree, the only other boxer I can think of that even comes close to his speed was Sugar Ray Leonard.
Zab Judah's faster, Floyd Mayweather is faster. Mosley in his prime was faster and I'd say Oscar in his prime was also. What makes Pac impressive is the volume of punches he throws without slowing down throughout an entire fight, and he can throw punches from odd angles.
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fuck bno manny can take a punch and mayweather is a little bitch thats gonna get dropped like his little sisters panties and mike tyson knows that true
You gotta be kidding. Mayweather just destroyed Marquez, a man that almost beat Manny 2 times and many believe Marquez beat Manny the second time. Mayweather made his fight with Marquez look like a joke, like he wasn't even serious. Floyd will beat Manny with relative ease, trust me. He is that damn good. Pac, his trainer Roach more specifically, always has an advantage coming into the fights with Pac's opponents. Usually it's making other fighters come down in weight to drain them. Pac looked like a hero going in with the larger Oscar but at the end of the day it was Oscar draining himself to make the catch weight. He was sick, on IV's leading into the fight and was totally drained and weak. Roach bet on this happening, even said to the media before the fight that Oscar can't fight at that weight and was totally right. Pac's team has thrived on finding advantages over their opposition. You look at Hatton, Oscar and Cotto and the list goes on. All of those fighters were at some kind of disadvantage.
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Pacquiao’s performance was so good that no one laughed when promoter Bob Arum said he believes Pacquiao is the best fighter he ever saw. And yes, Arum included Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard and Marvelous Marvin Hagler in that group.
Bob Arum has seen more fights than most of us put together....He knows his shit....for him to state that means a little more than anonymous people on the internets bickering over who's the best.
Pac is Arums cash cow and fighter. Of course he will say that
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1. manny ducked a 40mill fight with mayweather because he didnt want to take a blood test
little man w short arms vs a nasty, nast counter puncher
2. he wanted to fight mosley at 140 when mosley hasnt been at that weight for almost 10 years thinking mosley will back out. when mosley said yes he bitched out
roach said mosley balloons to 160 come fight time while manny has a hard time hitting 140. too big for manny.
3. he is being fed fighter that go well with his style.
poor head movement, descent hand speed n fight chin first...oscar, hatton n cotto
4. if he fights mayweather he will get schooled like no tomorrow and if anyone thinks other wise i suggest you go watch any of mayweathers fights
see above
5. since when did an asian become the greatest fighter since ali considering he has never fought any good black opponents.
no comment...since chaos will claim an agenda. but will say it will go the distance with clottey but pac has paul williams type output so he'll pt it for a win.
a gimmick you can QFT.
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Zab Judah's faster, Floyd Mayweather is faster. Mosley in his prime was faster and I'd say Oscar in his prime was also. What makes Pac impressive is the volume of punches he throws without slowing down throughout an entire fight, and he can throw punches from odd angles.
Meldrick Taylor fastest boxer ever.
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Zab Judah's faster, Floyd Mayweather is faster. Mosley in his prime was faster and I'd say Oscar in his prime was also. What makes Pac impressive is the volume of punches he throws without slowing down throughout an entire fight, and he can throw punches from odd angles.
See I don't get it either? But I've talked to many people and they always say watching Manny on TV isn't like watching him 1st row. I'm a Manny fan. But When I watch him fight it's not like he's a lightning bolt. Either way he's winning tomorrow. His next big fight is either to unify the Welter Division or moving up in weight to break all time records.
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his last fight was a gift
Fixed
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I hope the public turns on Mayweather to were he's forced to fight Manny...He wants all this money not realising he isn't a big draw his oppenents are...He is boring as fuck and if he steps in that right with Manny he's gonna get his as beat...
Are you kidding me? If Pac would take the simple blood test we would be watching them fight this Saturday. Blame Pac for fukin that fight up. He wanted 8 ounce gloves work, Mayweather agreed. He wanted Mayweather to pay 1 million for every pound over at weigh in and Mayweather agreed. Mayweather asks Manny to simply be tested 14 days before the fight and Pac says no, so no fight.
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Zab Judah's faster, Floyd Mayweather is faster. Mosley in his prime was faster and I'd say Oscar in his prime was also. What makes Pac impressive is the volume of punches he throws without slowing down throughout an entire fight, and he can throw punches from odd angles.
paul williams type output.
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paul williams type output.
Williams is so sloppy and off balance a lot of the time.
While I think Pac will take this fight tomorrow night, I have a feeling Clottey will be his toughest fight out of his last few. Not sure why, just a hunch. This guys coming to fight and he arguably beat Cotto when they fought last year.
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Williams is so sloppy and off balance a lot of the time.
While I think Pac will take this fight tomorrow night, I have a feeling Clottey will be his toughest fight out of his last few. Not sure why, just a hunch. This guys coming to fight and he arguably beat Cotto when they fought last year.
Agreed on both counts...Williams needs to stop throwing 8 billion bullshit punches and throw 40 with bad intentions
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Are you kidding me? If Pac would take the simple blood test we would be watching them fight this Saturday. Blame Pac for fukin that fight up. He wanted 8 ounce gloves work, Mayweather agreed. He wanted Mayweather to pay 1 million for every pound over at weigh in and Mayweather agreed. Mayweather asks Manny to simply be tested 14 days before the fight and Pac says no, so no fight.
Your the kind of guy I can sell his own car too. I bet I can sell you your own living room furniture. Where are you from??? This is buisiness my Man. Arum doesn't want to cut the purse in half. This is personal. Next time they negotiate the purse is gonna be even higher then it was once expected. Manny is P4P and has an easy opponent in front of him. Mayweather is trying to prove he's P4P and had HOF one of the greatest ever Shane Mosley in front of him. This is prize fighting. Arum and Top Rank aren't playing ball with Money and Uncle Rog. MANNY DOES NOT NEED MAYWEATHER. MANNY IS BOXING TOP DRAW. Top Rank is never going to bend over for Floyd Mayweathers camp. Say whatever you want. All the cards are in Bob Arums hands. What goes around comes around Floyd.
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mike tyson ,lennix lewis and evander holyfield in there prime would all destroy ali , hope this helps
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Check this out Groink
http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/The_Rumble/entry/view/48832/is_pacquiao_impossible?_why_steroid_accusations_are_baseless
Things that make you go hummm
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Your the kind of guy I can sell his own car too. I bet I can sell you your own living room furniture. Where are you from??? This is buisiness my Man. Arum doesn't want to cut the purse in half. This is personal. Next time they negotiate the purse is gonna be even higher then it was once expected. Manny is P4P and has an easy opponent in front of him. Mayweather is trying to prove he's P4P and had HOF one of the greatest ever Shane Mosley in front of him. This is prize fighting. Arum and Top Rank aren't playing ball with Money and Uncle Rog. MANNY DOES NOT NEED MAYWEATHER. MANNY IS BOXING TOP DRAW. Top Rank is never going to bend over for Floyd Mayweathers camp. Say whatever you want. All the cards are in Bob Arums hands. What goes around comes around Floyd.
And you think Mayweather needs Manny? What happens when Mayweather beats Mosley? His market value goes up. What happens if Pac beats Clottey, his stays the same and has a chance of going down if Clottey puts up a good fight. When both fights are done and both win, Mayweather is in a much better position than before. Not to mention Mayweather and Mosley are going to do much bigger PPV buys. Pretty good business sense on Arum eh? ::)
Let's not forget Manny has been defeated. He's been knocked out twice earlier in his career. Marquez arguably beat him at least one of the two ULTRA close fights, the man Mayweather made look like an amateur. The only reason anyone has Manny ahead on the P4P list is because Floyd retired and gave it up.
Oh, I understand the business, but what kind of business is it to make your fighter look like a cheater and completely tarnish his rep? Humm eh?
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Things that make you go hummm
Suspicions,suspicions,suspicions .
I'm not saying that Manny uses PED or not but that video doesn't prove shit .
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Suspicions,suspicions,suspicions .
I'm not saying that Manny uses PED or not but that video doesn't prove shit .
Inductive reasoning.
If we see smoke it is acceptable for us with a high probability to assume the smoke is coming from a fire without seeing a fire. Many suspicious things would make a reasonable person consider that something is wrong.
Pac has a different excuse each time: afraid of needles (but he has tattoos), blood loss weakens him,
Pac has no idea what he is taking, so he says
Pac says he doesn't even know what a steroid is :D ::)
Roach said he knew nothing about roids yet if you listen to his comments about James Toney you realize that is a lie
Pac's performance unexpectedly improved at a late point in his career
Pac's insistence that the testing be within a specific window of time
Pac accepts random blood test when caught off guard.
Pac declines random test.
Pac says blood test 2 days within fight weakens him.
Pac is offered 14 day window.
Pac says 24 days is safe now.
Pac gives blood test 20 days before Clottey fight.
Pac's trainer says 5 days would have been fine. (after fight is scrapped)
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And you think Mayweather needs Manny? What happens when Mayweather beats Mosley? His market value goes up. What happens if Pac beats Clottey, his stays the same and has a chance of going down if Clottey puts up a good fight. When both fights are done and both win, Mayweather is in a much better position than before. Not to mention Mayweather and Mosley are going to do much bigger PPV buys. Pretty good business sense on Arum eh? ::)
Let's not forget Manny has been defeated. He's been knocked out twice earlier in his career. Marquez arguably beat him at least one of the two ULTRA close fights, the man Mayweather made look like an amateur. The only reason anyone has Manny ahead on the P4P list is because Floyd retired and gave it up.
Oh, I understand the business, but what kind of business is it to make your fighter look like a cheater and completely tarnish his rep? Humm eh?
I only needed to read the first two sentences of your post. Where's Floyd gonna go? The guy ducks everybody. The greatest fighters fight the greatest fighters. Fighting Mosley is the first time Floyd is putting his nuts on the chopping block. The only reason he agreed to fight Mosley is because he had no choice! Who was he gonna fight? Malinaggi? Baby Bull? Hattons brother? Marquez had to gain 17 lbs! Mayweather didn't even disclose his weight come fight night. Before that fight he was sitting on the shelf. The difference here is? If Manny looses he'll retire and we'll never here from him again. Mayweather looses once? He's gonna keep fighting and keep loosing. Just like Roy Jones.
Mayweather tried. He's not Derek Jeter. He's not Tiger Woods. He's not Jordan. Last time I saw. Nike signed Manny.
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And you think Mayweather needs Manny? What happens when Mayweather beats Mosley? His market value goes up. What happens if Pac beats Clottey, his stays the same and has a chance of going down if Clottey puts up a good fight. When both fights are done and both win, Mayweather is in a much better position than before. Not to mention Mayweather and Mosley are going to do much bigger PPV buys. Pretty good business sense on Arum eh? ::)
Let's not forget Manny has been defeated. He's been knocked out twice earlier in his career. Marquez arguably beat him at least one of the two ULTRA close fights, the man Mayweather made look like an amateur. The only reason anyone has Manny ahead on the P4P list is because Floyd retired and gave it up.
Oh, I understand the business, but what kind of business is it to make your fighter look like a cheater and completely tarnish his rep? Humm eh?
Mayweather was fighting a past his prime version of Marquez, about 14 lb+ removed from the weight that Manny thought him at. A joke of a fight that nobody thought would be competative or wanted to see.
I would make Mayweather a big favourite against Pac based upon styles. They have both been just as managed career wise as one another and both had their role to play in the fight not coming off.
Neither of them would fare well against guys like prime Mosley, De La Hoya, Whitaker at welter.
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I only needed to read the first two sentences of your post. Where's Floyd gonna go? The guy ducks everybody. The greatest fighters fight the greatest fighters. Fighting Mosley is the first time Floyd is putting his nuts on the chopping block. The only reason he agreed to fight Mosley is because he had no choice! Who was he gonna fight? Malinaggi? Baby Bull? Hattons brother? Marquez had to gain 17 lbs! Mayweather didn't even disclose his weight come fight night. Before that fight he was sitting on the shelf. The difference here is? If Manny looses he'll retire and we'll never here from him again. Mayweather looses once? He's gonna keep fighting and keep loosing. Just like Roy Jones.
Mayweather tried. He's not Derek Jeter. He's not Tiger Woods. He's not Jordan. Last time I saw. Nike signed Manny.
Who has Mayweather ducked? Mayweather fought Oscar, when Oscar was not too far off his prime and not weight drained -- you see, Pac always has an edge in his fights, he fights weight drained opponents or opponents over the hill. Roach always finds a strong advantage over Pac's opponents. He even admitted to the media before the Oscar fight that Oscar couldnt pull the trigger anymore and can't make that weight successfully. He was right, and even though people though that Oscar would win, which I didn't, it was an easy, calculated and safe fight for pac. Roach has a very keen eye for this. He knows Mayweather will beat Pac, and there's no way Pac is going into that fight clean hence the walk away from a 30 million dollar tablespoon of blood.
Mayweathers fought Judah, Hatton, who he softened up for Pac, Castillo, Marquez, Baldomir, and the list goes on. Pac has chosen what should be an easy opponent tomorrow night, Mayweather could have fought any of those you listed and would have been no different but he's taking on a legit challenge. I don't see your point. When the dust settles, Floyd will be in the drivers seat.
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Mayweather was fighting a past his prime version of Marquez, about 14 lb+ removed from the weight that Manny thought him at. A joke of a fight that nobody thought would be competative or wanted to see.
I would make Mayweather a big favourite against Pac based upon styles. They have both been just as managed career wise as one another and both had their role to play in the fight not coming off.
Neither of them would fare well against guys like prime Mosley, De La Hoya, Whitaker at welter.
You know what, Oscar is one of my all-time favorites fighters, but I have to wonder how much better prime Oscar would have done against that version of Pac he fought that night. Mind you that weight drain issue had to play a huge role
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soda popinski had my nod
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ha ha mayweathers market value goes up with a win over Mosley? ::)
please...Mosley is what? 38-39 years old...of course Floyd would agree to fight him now he's a Senior citizen as far as fighters go....this fight means nothing....
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ha ha mayweathers market value goes up with a win over Mosley? ::)
please...Mosley is what? 38-39 years old...of course Floyd would agree to fight him now he's a Senior citizen as far as fighters go....this fight means nothing....
I'm looking forward to this fight - I honestly think Mosley can give him trouble.
Also, it would be nice to see Mosley smash Floyd, as he's always come across as a decent kind of chap (if you ignore the steroids and epo stuff).
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I'm looking forward to this fight - I honestly think Mosley can give him trouble.
Also, it would be nice to see Mosley smash Floyd, as he's always come across as a decent kind of chap (if you ignore the steroids and epo stuff).
oh don't get me wrong I will be watching the fight....And I would like to see Mosely get the win...but I just think this fight is happening alot later than it should have....
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oh don't get me wrong I will be watching the fight....And I would like to see Mosely get the win...but I just think this fight is happening alot later than it should have....
Oh, definitely. Floyd's struck me as being a little risk averse of late, esp compared to earlier in his career.
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Pacquiao = Overated & overhyped. Devastating ko against a no chin Hattan, Couldn't even hurt a washed up De La Hoya aftyer hitting him so many times, tko against a shot Cotto. He will lose tonight against the 1st fighter he's faced in their prime w excellent chin. I give him credit to take fight but he should've fought Mayweather and collect his last big payday. His stock goes way down after he's exposed tonight.
Mayweather = pound 4 pound best in the game righ now, shoulda fought and beat Pacquiao easily. No one else will bring that much money, and to simple shut up all the manny nut huggers who knows nothing
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Pacquiao = Overated & overhyped. Devastating ko against a no chin Hattan, Couldn't even hurt a washed up De La Hoya aftyer hitting him so many times, tko against a shot Cotto. He will lose tonight against the 1st fighter he's faced in their prime w excellent chin. I give him credit to take fight but he should've fought Mayweather and collect his last big payday. His stock goes way down after he's exposed tonight.
Mayweather = pound 4 pound best in the game righ now, shoulda fought and beat Pacquiao easily. No one else will bring that much money, and to simple shut up all the manny nut huggers who knows nothing
I don't agree that pacman is overrated however I do agree that clottey has a decent shot at pulling this off...More so than Mosely(at this point in his career)has a chance of beating mayweather...so yea props to pacman for fighting a legit opponet in his prime vs floyd fighting an old washed up fighter thats due to retire....
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::) mike tyson 87/90 ?
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I don't agree that pacman is overrated however I do agree that clottey has a decent shot at pulling this off...More so than Mosely(at this point in his career)has a chance of beating mayweather...so yea props to pacman for fighting a legit opponet in his prime vs floyd fighting an old washed up fighter thats due to retire....
dont agree with you. flip this over. pac has MAJOR problems with a 160 mosley, i mean MAJOR...where as FMW could counter punch his way to an easy win over Clotty. FMW better be up for that May cause he cant win it sitting on the ropes against Mosley playing counter me. This thing will be close with a possilbe BS decision to FMW to keep a big money fight alive. On other hand Pac will probably punch his way to a win. Boy...you have to take the fight in tight against Clotty with his def, and he aint short on head butts, iffy shorts, etc but his brittle hand on Pac HGH head?
the monsters are paul williams with his ability to fight 147-165. that's insane. no hearns power for his size..but he comes to work n chin is worth a mint. berto is another one. was surprised mosley was going to take that fight but was looking for paycheck.
williams vs martinez I. II will be nice.
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joshua will shell up and put the ear muffs on (like he always does) absorb shots (like he always does) and WON"T throw enough shots when he needs to (like he always does) then claim he was robbed like he did vs cotto and margarito.
this dude is all wrong vs combination punchers and/or volume types. Hell even against Zab...all zab had to do was stay on his toes and simply box him and he would have walked away UD....but we all know zab....falls apart after round one.
tailor made fight.
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Hell even against Zab...all zab had to do was stay on his toes and simply box him and he would have walked away UD....but we all know zab....falls apart after round one.
Lol, too true. Watched Tzyu v Judah again recently, and if only he could manage to fight like he did in that first round for a whole fight without having a brainfart he would have been an awesome fighter.
Did manage it against Spinks, though.
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::) mike tyson 87/90 ?
Not even the best heavyweight since Ali.
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Lol, too true. Watched Tzyu v Judah again recently, and if only he could manage to fight like he did in that first round for a whole fight without having a brainfart he would have been an awesome fighter.
Did manage it against Spinks, though.
Zab has (had) all the tools man....mentally the guy just notoriously falls apart in there. He was right there speed for speed, punch for punch with mayweather early on..and right on cue he fell apart...then the ass kicking fest began.
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Good post man. Clottey isn't going to be able to pull this off. Things could change drastically if they clash heads though? The victory over Cotto really is giving Manny alot more confidence to be in there with the bigger guys. He's gonna come out blazing! Really looking forward to this and especially what Roach will say post fight interview.
He better not even think of mentioning mayweather....6 days is why this fight didn't happen...6 days....won't take a damn "random" "possible" sample 14 days out but will 20 days out....bull fkn sh*t.. mental edge my ass roach...(but I'm not even about to go back into that discussion)...fk top rank, arum, roach and that EPO smoothie drinking azz junkie.
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I don't agree that pacman is overrated however I do agree that clottey has a decent shot at pulling this off...More so than Mosely(at this point in his career)has a chance of beating mayweather...so yea props to pacman for fighting a legit opponet in his prime vs floyd fighting an old washed up fighter thats due to retire....
Let me clarify, he's overated in this division. Way overated and I think you'll see it tonight. Styles make fight, I think Mosley with his granite chin, still fast hands and not to mention being much biger than Pac, beats pac even easier than Mayweather.
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ha ha mayweathers market value goes up with a win over Mosley? ::)
please...Mosley is what? 38-39 years old...of course Floyd would agree to fight him now he's a Senior citizen as far as fighters go....this fight means nothing....
Yea, of course it will. Mosley isn't in his prime but he's one of the 2 toughest fights out there for Floyd and is an ATG
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Not even the best heavyweight since Ali.
you re a moron plain and simple, prime tyson is the best boxing had to offer, including ali.
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I'll shit in my hat if Clottey beats Manny...but i just have a weird feeling, that dude looks a LOT bigger than Manny
Thats what they said about Cotto.
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anyone know where to find a live stream of the fight?