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Title: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: Marty Champions on November 16, 2009, 03:12:24 PM
Most get biggers would laugh and mock anyone not following a "traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol"

So i ask the experts (getbiggers) what is the protocol to get "different results" what do you look like now, many of you that boast and belittle me like Time Wascocks and other great champions that post here. Im asking because i think most of you all are experts since i have been told by many here what i do is simply wrong.

since you all do the same 'thing' because its 'correct' im sure i couldnt contain my envy of your ripped massive physiques. Please save your wisdom in words and just post pics let your physiques do the talking  8)
Title: Re: Insanity -Doing the same thing and expecting different results
Post by: just_a_pilgrim on November 16, 2009, 03:42:37 PM
You lost too much muscle trying to get extra lean to have a lean face. You could have the lean face without dropping so much.

Don't really care how you do it but you should put the mass back on.
Title: Re: Insanity -Doing the same thing and expecting different results
Post by: Marty Champions on November 16, 2009, 03:46:48 PM
You lost too much muscle trying to get extra lean to have a lean face. You could have the lean face without dropping so much.

Don't really care how you do it but you should put the mass back on.

you sound like an expert , maybe you should lay out the proper info aswel as pictures of your progress
Title: Re: Insanity -Doing the same thing and expecting different results
Post by: SGT BARNES on November 16, 2009, 05:35:16 PM
you lost all your muscle with your retarded vegan an oils diets, and now your loosing your small mind and teeth to meth.

good work lawnboy.

those of us with consistent programs have steady gaining results

methtard
Title: Re: Insanity -Doing the same thing and expecting different results
Post by: MP on November 16, 2009, 05:52:05 PM
I'll admit, the non-meat diet sounds interesting for heath benefits, especially as we get older.

However, I just don't see where vegetarians get adequate protein. And, when you're talking protein amounts sufficient for building muscle, I just don't see it at all.

Speak on this, Falcon.
Title: Re: Insanity -Doing the same thing and expecting different results
Post by: Marty Champions on November 16, 2009, 05:57:50 PM
I'll admit, the non-meat diet sounds interesting for heath benefits, especially as we get older.

However, I just don't see where vegetarians get adequate protein. And, when you're talking protein amounts sufficient for building muscle, I just don't see it at all.

Speak on this, Falcon.

signs show too much protien depletes from bone calcium

just like too much nitrogen in a tomato plant will yeild a plant without tomatoes

speak on this young falcon
Title: Re: Insanity -Doing the same thing and expecting different results
Post by: Deadpool on November 16, 2009, 06:00:23 PM
what was his name, andreas calhing? the vegitarian pro
Title: Re: Insanity -Doing the same thing and expecting different results
Post by: Marty Champions on November 16, 2009, 06:01:24 PM
what was his name, andreas calhing? the vegitarian pro

sorrry but he doesnt post here shareing informations like great Jonhay Faylcan
Title: Re: Insanity -Doing the same thing and expecting different results
Post by: MP on November 16, 2009, 06:01:48 PM
LOL. I'm almost 40, but I guess that's young.

All I know is, when my protein levels are high I'm stronger and recuperate faster.

If I'm dining on fruits and vegetables, I just can't envision the same results.

Cite your protein sources, please.
Title: Re: Insanity -Doing the same thing and expecting different results
Post by: che on November 16, 2009, 06:07:44 PM
The problem is that you change your diet every 3 days , Falcon .
Title: Re: Insanity -Doing the same thing and expecting different results
Post by: MP on November 16, 2009, 06:08:13 PM
what was his name, andreas calhing? the vegitarian pro

Yeah, that's him. Never understood that. Worried about what he eats, yet juiced to the gills.

(http://www.andreascahling.com/images/magazine_covers/andreas_cahling_cover_%5B1%5D.jpg)
Title: Re: Insanity -Doing the same thing and expecting different results
Post by: Marty Champions on November 16, 2009, 06:09:30 PM
LOL. I'm almost 40, but I guess that's young.

All I know is, when my protein levels are high I'm stronger and recuperate faster.

If I'm dining on fruits and vegetables, I just can't envision the same results.

Cite your protein sources, please.

fruits and veggies are very low in energy

everycell in your body has a mitochondria Layer of FAT this is why you desperatley need olive oil


what sources you want me to site do a god damn google search you lazy fuck  :-X
Title: Re: Insanity -Doing the same thing and expecting different results
Post by: MP on November 16, 2009, 06:12:29 PM
Wow man, I thought you were the peace and love guy. I was genuinely interested in what your particular protein sources are.

I'm well aware I can search Google, but I'm not interested in reading all the whacked-out ramblings from left-wing vegans and fruit-loving vegetarians. I wanted to hear it first hand from someone interested in building muscle.
Title: Re: Insanity -Doing the same thing and expecting different results
Post by: WillGrant on November 16, 2009, 06:16:14 PM
Johnny , what is your prefered Olive Oil? is there a top quality item from a certain company you recomend?
Title: Re: Insanity -Doing the same thing and expecting different results
Post by: johnnynoname on November 16, 2009, 06:18:28 PM
believe it or not, this johnny is also a believer in the tablespoon of olive oil (in lieu of complex carbs) as my main energy source

Title: Re: Insanity -Doing the same thing and expecting different results
Post by: WillGrant on November 16, 2009, 06:26:45 PM
believe it or not, this johnny is also a believer in the tablespoon of olive oil (in lieu of complex carbs) as my main energy source


I know you are big on tabata training jnn , but what sort of diet protocol do you follow to stay diced as you do?
You keep carbs low? how does this effect glycogen based training eg weights with you?
Title: Re: Insanity -Doing the same thing and expecting different results
Post by: johnnynoname on November 16, 2009, 06:31:19 PM
I know you are big on tabata training jnn , but what sort of diet protocol do you follow to stay diced as you do?
You keep carbs low? how does this effect glycogen based training eg weights with you?

I eat ALOT of vegetables so whatever i need in terms of carbs and whatever i get from a variety of vegetables.

then, whenever my body "tells" me it needs some sugar/simple carbs/junk food- i give it those foods (ie "refeed")
Title: Re: Insanity -Doing the same thing and expecting different results
Post by: WillGrant on November 16, 2009, 06:45:22 PM
I eat ALOT of vegetables so whatever i need in terms of carbs and whatever i get from a variety of vegetables.

then, whenever my body "tells" me it needs some sugar/simple carbs/junk food- i give it those foods (ie "refeed")
How do you find this works with progressing with weight training? do you aim to lift a bit more each workout or are you at a stage where you are just maintaining what you built and not so concerned with building more lean tissue?
Title: Re: Insanity -Doing the same thing and expecting different results
Post by: Marty Champions on November 16, 2009, 06:55:21 PM
Wow man, I thought you were the peace and love guy. I was genuinely interested in what your particular protein sources are.

I'm well aware I can search Google, but I'm not interested in reading all the whacked-out ramblings from left-wing vegans and fruit-loving vegetarians. I wanted to hear it first hand from someone interested in building muscle.

how do you expect me to discern that with the way im treated on getbig by a bunch of Time Westcocks and Boob chickerillos


I am Sire Johnnahhhey St. Failurecan
Title: Re: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on November 16, 2009, 06:58:15 PM
what about macademnia nut oils
Title: Re: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: SGT BARNES on November 16, 2009, 07:10:15 PM
methtard.  all the way methtard
Title: Re: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: Marty Champions on November 16, 2009, 07:11:02 PM
Hey John what's you take on eating pussy post workout? hahahha anyway I say taco bell
Title: Re: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: SGT BARNES on November 16, 2009, 07:12:51 PM
you makin that shit with a 2 liter pop bottle and cough syrup yet methtard?
Title: Re: Insanity -Doing the same thing and expecting different results
Post by: disturbia on November 16, 2009, 07:14:41 PM
believe it or not, this johnny is also a believer in the tablespoon of olive oil (in lieu of complex carbs) as my main energy source



I upped my amount to a shot glass of olive oil per day and feel like I could run around the city 3 times
Title: Re: Insanity -Doing the same thing and expecting different results
Post by: johnnynoname on November 16, 2009, 07:17:27 PM
How do you find this works with progressing with weight training? do you aim to lift a bit more each workout or are you at a stage where you are just maintaining what you built and not so concerned with building more lean tissue?

the answer you are looking for is right here

I upped my amount to a shot glass of olive oil per day and feel like I could run around the city 3 times

the people's champ has spoken
Title: Re: Insanity -Doing the same thing and expecting different results
Post by: WillGrant on November 16, 2009, 07:23:38 PM
the answer you are looking for is right here

the people's champ has spoken
Whats the best olive oil to get ?  :)
Title: Re: Insanity -Doing the same thing and expecting different results
Post by: Marty Champions on November 16, 2009, 08:01:17 PM
I upped my amount to a shot glass of olive oil per day and feel like I could run around the city 3 times

You should be worshipping or thanking the falcon for he has just spared your life by pressing his kindness upon you many times in the battlefield of your insults , you must stop others too from acting foolish to the falcon , or there will be hell to pay
Title: Re: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: Go 4 It on November 16, 2009, 08:03:53 PM
Dude it's not rocket science, unless you're trying to peak for a competition then it is.. but if you just want to look muscular/athletic/healthy, I believe a balanced diet, high in protein 1.5-2 g protein per pound, I get around 35-55g of fat a day with a ratio of 2-1-1 omega 3-6-9, and I just carb cycle according to my energy requirements.. 400g high days (when I train big body parts back-legs-chest) 250g medium days (shoulders) 150-100 low days (bi-tri) and 0 carb on off days. Fats: nuts, eggs, oils  Carbs: lots of fruit/veggies, fiberous grains (brown rice, oatmeal, quinoa, certain pastas) Protein: lotta fish Salmon atleast 5 times a week, steak, chicken, ground turkey, eggs, protein powder. Energy is definitely not an issue with me, I run 6 miles every morning, I work 5 days a week a my families business delivering furniture/unloading trucks...I bartend 3 nights a week till 3am...and I train 6 days a week and usually on my off day I still end up running just cause I have so much energy. Dude you have tons of potential you need to stop messing around with all of these weird diets and just balance everything and you'll see results and feel great!
Title: Re: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: Marty Champions on November 16, 2009, 08:14:44 PM
Dude it's not rocket science, unless you're trying to peak for a competition then it is.. but if you just want to look muscular/athletic/healthy, I believe a balanced diet, high in protein 1.5-2 g protein per pound, I get around 35-55g of fat a day with a ratio of 2-1-1 omega 3-6-9, and I just carb cycle according to my energy requirements.. 400g high days (when I train big body parts back-legs-chest) 250g medium days (shoulders) 150-100 low days (bi-tri) and 0 carb on off days. Fats: nuts, eggs, oils  Carbs: lots of fruit/veggies, fiberous grains (brown rice, oatmeal, quinoa, certain pastas) Protein: lotta fish Salmon atleast 5 times a week, steak, chicken, ground turkey, eggs, protein powder. Energy is definitely not an issue with me, I run 6 miles every morning, I work 5 days a week a my families business delivering furniture/unloading trucks...I bartend 3 nights a week till 3am...and I train 6 days a week and usually on my off day I still end up running just cause I have so much energy. Dude you have tons of potential you need to stop messing around with all of these weird diets and just balance everything and you'll see results and feel great!

serious question, did you give up pussy for running 6miles in the morning?

i think you have a good immune system because you have a short height

my body is naturally too stressed from being too tall , thus i have to focus on attaining energy and avoiding sickness , in wich i havent been sick in 3-4 years not a sore throat or conjested nostrils, except for the clap i caught this summer wich sucked
Title: Re: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: Go 4 It on November 16, 2009, 08:26:27 PM
serious question, did you give up pussy for running 6miles in the morning?

i think you have a good immune system because you have a short height

my body is naturally too stressed from being too tall , thus i have to focus on attaining energy and avoiding sickness , in wich i havent been sick in 3-4 years not a sore throat or conjested nostrils, except for the clap i caught this summer wich sucked
Not at all, I got a few girls that I hook up with during the week..friends with benifits/bootycall type shit, I've always been a real energetic person..true stroy last chick I was dating every sunday we would just stay in watch movies, order take out and just have sex all day..my record was 13 times in one day no joke lol. If you train you body to do something it will just adapt to it, how do you think people run triathalons and stuff. I don't think it has anything to do with tall or short, it's all about providing your body with the nutrients it requires, yes being taller/heavier then me, your daily caloric #'s/macro/micro are going to be more then mine thats for sure. I think my immune system is also good because I'm around germ infested environments alot bars-warehouse-gyms..once again you body has to adapt to these things.
Title: Re: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: Marty Champions on November 16, 2009, 09:23:15 PM
Not at all, I got a few girls that I hook up with during the week..friends with benifits/bootycall type shit, I've always been a real energetic person..true stroy last chick I was dating every sunday we would just stay in watch movies, order take out and just have sex all day..my record was 13 times in one day no joke lol. If you train you body to do something it will just adapt to it, how do you think people run triathalons and stuff. I don't think it has anything to do with tall or short, it's all about providing your body with the nutrients it requires, yes being taller/heavier then me, your daily caloric #'s/macro/micro are going to be more then mine thats for sure. I think my immune system is also good because I'm around germ infested environments alot bars-warehouse-gyms..once again you body has to adapt to these things.

how much sleep are you getting

i wont ever eat meat again though, just remember it start out like a pimple then to a small rash then a hole in my arm
Title: Re: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: 2ND COMING on November 16, 2009, 09:33:10 PM
I eat like a normal bodybuilder would

i just dont eat every 2 hours. Ill eat every 4-5 hrs.

i hold less water and the muscles feel harder this way.
Title: Re: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: Go 4 It on November 16, 2009, 09:33:47 PM
I usually get anywhere from 6-7 hours, the leaner I am the less sleep I need it's really weird, but I usually get a nap in after work it's usually about 30-45 min, then I go lift. Do you eat fish at all? You can still meet protein requirements through protein powders, nuts, various beans (I think black have the highest protein content), milk, quinoa is a complete protein as well.
Title: Re: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: Marty Champions on November 16, 2009, 09:45:12 PM
I usually get anywhere from 6-7 hours, the leaner I am the less sleep I need it's really weird, but I usually get a nap in after work it's usually about 30-45 min, then I go lift. Do you eat fish at all? You can still meet protein requirements through protein powders, nuts, various beans (I think black have the highest protein content), milk, quinoa is a complete protein as well.

fish is just as bad, i hope you never get staff

yes i notice i can get by with less sleep the more i workout and eat

the olive oil has essentially been missing from the diet is probably why ive lacked superior energy to workout extra long

now that i look back i remember doing crazy amounts of volume but shouldve started the olive oil long ago, i accept a 10 percent energy loss from meat because i never ever get sick or even mucus
Title: Re: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: Go 4 It on November 16, 2009, 09:55:35 PM
Well, it's good that you're never sick..seems like you're kind of paranoid about it though lol, I hate being sick as well, but I usually catch something once a year and I'm out for a few days, but it's all good. So what does a normal day of eating for you consist of? How many times a day do you eat?
Title: Re: Insanity -Doing the same thing and expecting different results
Post by: no one on November 17, 2009, 02:24:49 AM
signs show too much protien depletes from bone calcium

just like too much nitrogen in a tomato plant will yeild a plant without tomatoes


speak on this young falcon

great.

great comparison.

human body/ tomato plant.

fuck you're a retard.
Title: Re: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: Petrucci on November 17, 2009, 02:40:25 AM
Daddywaddy is a great guy, but there is a fact: Before he looked great...now (and for quite some time) he looks like shit. I think its the common opinion here...

So, just stop to do what you are doing, and go back to what you did before, because it worked. simple like that ! ;D
Title: Re: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: wes on November 17, 2009, 03:07:24 AM
just like too much nitrogen in a tomato plant will yeild a plant without tomatoes
You look like a fucking tomato plant!!  LOL  :)

Meal # 1:
1 small can of latex paint (16. oz)
1 bushel basket of kale
1/2 cup olive oil

Meal # 2:
1 dozen bananas
1 cup of nuts
1 cup olive oil

Meal # 3:
1 box Argo starch
1 apple
1 40 oz. bottle of Olde English
1 cup of olive oil

Meal # 4:
2 gallons of grape juice
1 protein bar
1 bag of frozen poop
1 box cookies

Meal # 5:
1 cup mixed veggies
1 gallon of olive oil
2 jars of peanut butter

Meal # 6:
1 gallon of turpentine mixed with olive oil
Title: Re: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: LatsMcGee on November 17, 2009, 03:19:57 AM
Johnny Falcon is turning into a douche bag.  Don't be like Seve Johnny. 
Title: Re: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: Marty Champions on November 17, 2009, 05:22:52 AM
Johnny Falcon is turning into a douche bag.  Don't be like Seve Johnny. 

ive been trolling the internets since 1996
Title: Re: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: io856 on November 17, 2009, 05:24:52 AM
ive been trolling the internets since 1996
karma
Title: Re: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: Marty Champions on November 17, 2009, 05:57:20 AM
karma

karma is a bitch for you , too afraid to post a pic huh fatty??

karma is working in my favor

Title: Re: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: Marty Champions on November 17, 2009, 05:58:14 AM
Well, it's good that you're never sick..seems like you're kind of paranoid about it though lol, I hate being sick as well, but I usually catch something once a year and I'm out for a few days, but it's all good. So what does a normal day of eating for you consist of? How many times a day do you eat?

i am paranoid about, i never want staph again since it was from eating meat, how do i know? because i know for fact

right now having nearly a full protien scoop of olive oil after every 50 reps along with alot of orange juice and apple cider, plenty of calories
Title: Re: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: io856 on November 17, 2009, 05:59:09 AM
karma is a bitch for you , too afraid to post a pic huh fatty??

karma is working in my favor


why did you take that in a negative way?
Title: Re: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: Marty Champions on November 17, 2009, 06:00:26 AM
why did you take that in a negative way?

maybe you took it in a negative way?

dude i get a little confused as to who has there falcon wings and who has clipped them  :'(
Title: Re: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: jaejonna on November 17, 2009, 06:03:08 AM
maybe you took it in a negative way?

dude i get a little confused as to who has there falcon wings and who has clipped them  :'(
make no confusion here, JJ has falcon wings that fly high ....
Title: Re: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: Marty Champions on November 17, 2009, 06:04:17 AM
make no confusion here, JJ has falcon wings that fly high ....

i am amazed but not suprised about your stealthy progress through the falcon rankings, you have many fans in north carolina
Title: Re: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: MP on November 17, 2009, 06:04:47 AM
Serious question: With no meat or fish, what are your protein sources?
Title: Re: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: io856 on November 17, 2009, 06:05:12 AM
I added some olive oil at my meal times I think it actually made the body "assimilate" the nutrients better and less bloat today although required more sleep with same training/caloric load
Title: Re: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: Marty Champions on November 17, 2009, 06:05:31 AM
Serious question: With no meat or fish, what are your protein sources?

nuts, beans, balls, cocks cheese, pasta
Title: a public service announcement for all the "in-shape" guys here
Post by: johnnynoname on November 17, 2009, 08:48:55 AM
as i get older, i get wiser to new things everyday like:

-if it feels like more than two fingers than it is probably a dick
-nobody has freckles on their ass
-your mom isn't always right cuz after all....she did have sex with your dad

but the most important thing i've learned is to NEVER TURN DOWN A LAY.

the fact in this matter is that some of us think we are "too good" to go back to the "minor leagues"- don't make that mistake.  thinking like that will keep you in MANY a dry spell
Sure, the girl might be a "6" but she probably gives a "10" blowjob

so guys, no matter how "good looking" or "ripped" you are, please, don't ever turn down a sure thing lay cuz you can't always wait for ms/miss/mrs. perfect to come along

......and that's one to grow on


oh and here is another PSA from the great Iron Sheik

Title: Re: a public service announcement for all the "in-shape" guys here
Post by: Tapeworm on November 17, 2009, 08:52:10 AM
Unless you think it's a lay & she thinks it's 'a beginning.'
Title: Re: a public service announcement for all the "in-shape" guys here
Post by: uberman09 on November 17, 2009, 08:54:11 AM
is our resident mentally troubled gigolo starting to see the light?

Still a long way to go, but you re on the right track it seems.

How long til you start studying again and become a mature, responsible (of yourself) man? Yes, you too can be that guy, even if you lift weights, you can be both smart, muscular and not narcisistic!
Title: Re: a public service announcement for all the "in-shape" guys here
Post by: Tombo on November 17, 2009, 09:00:15 AM
whenever im out now johnny im going to set a reminder to go off in my phone every 30 mins with a link to this thread, ty.
Title: Re: a public service announcement for all the "in-shape" guys here
Post by: johnnynoname on November 17, 2009, 09:03:42 AM
Unless you think it's a lay & she thinks it's 'a beginning.'

they all think it's a "beginning" so that trap is unavoidable

in that case, just use a "fake name"

is our resident mentally troubled gigolo starting to see the light?

Still a long way to go, but you re on the right track it seems.

How long til you start studying again and become a mature, responsible (of yourself) man? Yes, you too can be that guy, even if you lift weights, you can be both smart, muscular and not narcisistic!


we (me and my ego) have a LONG ways to go

whenever im out now johnny im going to set a reminder to go off in my phone every 30 mins with a link to this thread, ty.

pass the words to your friends
Title: Re: a public service announcement for all the "in-shape" guys here
Post by: Tombo on November 17, 2009, 09:14:42 AM
they all think it's a "beginning" so that trap is unavoidable

in that case, just use a "fake name"

we (me and my ego) have a LONG ways to go

pass the words to your friends

who the fuck am i kidding i have never turned down a root
Title: Re: a public service announcement for all the "in-shape" guys here
Post by: Parker on November 17, 2009, 10:23:44 AM
There is exceptions. Now if that lay is hot crazy chick who comes to your work and talks shit to you, and asks what type of car you drive, and has a criminal record for destruction of property, disorderly conduct. I think it wise to politely turn it down.
Title: Re: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: Marty Champions on November 17, 2009, 01:59:31 PM
shots of olive oil with orange juice is the key, orange juice easily washes over any olive oil flavor
Title: Re: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: PJim on November 17, 2009, 02:56:11 PM
I usually get anywhere from 6-7 hours, the leaner I am the less sleep I need it's really weird,

This I find also.
Title: Re: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: Marty Champions on November 17, 2009, 02:57:16 PM
This I find also.

he still gets a nap that adds almost an hour

so basically he still gets 8 by his own admission
Title: Re: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: PJim on November 17, 2009, 03:16:51 PM
he still gets a nap that adds almost an hour

so basically he still gets 8 by his own admission

I personally find that at my heaviest I can sleep anywhere between 10-14 hours without any problem. Fast forward to my leanest periods I'll get between 6-8 and I'm perfectly fine. However, anywhere say 15 pounds out of my target lean weight I'll be severely sleep-deprived with anything less than 8. Obviously all the extra fat has a big impact stress wise on your organs and incidently your sleep needs.

In all seriousness though JF my man, it seems to me that you're stressing over something that is of very little importance in the grand scheme of things. We're all going to die, our bodies are all going to fail on us at some point, obviously we should try to enjoy life by being physically and mentally sound. Diet is a double edged sword, the more you nitpick and cut things out, the more you feel like you're making sacrifices. You don't want to have a diet only consisting of so-called "health" foods as this will obviously limit your diet to certain foods and leave you feeling eempty inside as everybody needs a good munch every now and again. Your hormone levels won't be adequate either because of all the stress and unnecessary obsessing over a mere morsel of food will leave you feeling like you're cutting off your nose to spite your face.
Title: Re: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: Marty Champions on November 17, 2009, 03:30:07 PM
I personally find that at my heaviest I can sleep anywhere between 10-14 hours without any problem. Fast forward to my leanest periods I'll get between 6-8 and I'm perfectly fine. However, anywhere say 15 pounds out of my target lean weight I'll be severely sleep-deprived with anything less than 8. Obviously all the extra fat has a big impact stress wise on your organs and incidently your sleep needs.

In all seriousness though JF my man, it seems to me that you're stressing over something that is of very little importance in the grand scheme of things. We're all going to die, our bodies are all going to fail on us at some point, obviously we should try to enjoy life by being physically and mentally sound. Diet is a double edged sword, the more you nitpick and cut things out, the more you feel like you're making sacrifices. You don't want to have a diet only consisting of so-called "health" foods as this will obviously limit your diet to certain foods and leave you feeling eempty inside as everybody needs a good munch every now and again. Your hormone levels won't be adequate either because of all the stress and unnecessary obsessing over a mere morsel of food will leave you feeling like you're cutting off your nose to spite your face.

the only thing i cut out of my diet is mainly meat

i have the hardcore vitamins and minerals daily from olive oil, orange juice, some beans, and carrot juice
and protien shake from time to time

trust me that olive oil fills me up so much sometimes im on the verge of high energy and puking , so i had to cut back slightly on olive oil servings. But i love how olive oil doesnt 'literally' stuff my stomach to give me energy, it simply makes me very full like in other words i wont feel like eating anything not even a nice dessert after a big shot of olive oil
Title: Re: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: PJim on November 17, 2009, 03:39:23 PM
the only thing i cut out of my diet is mainly meat

i have the hardcore vitamins and minerals daily from olive oil, orange juice, some beans, and carrot juice
and protien shake from time to time

trust me that olive oil fills me up so much sometimes im on the verge of high energy and puking , so i had to cut back slightly on olive oil servings. But i love how olive oil doesnt 'literally' stuff my stomach to give me energy, it simply makes me very full like in other words i wont feel like eating anything not even a nice dessert after a big shot of olive oil

Aren't you worried about too much monos from the olive oil?
Title: Re: a public service announcement for all the "in-shape" guys here
Post by: WillGrant on November 17, 2009, 03:44:43 PM
JNN Is a wise man
Title: Re: a public service announcement for all the "in-shape" guys here
Post by: Marty Champions on November 17, 2009, 03:47:00 PM
JNN hasnt caught the clap yet   :'(

be carefull bro
Title: Re: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: Marty Champions on November 17, 2009, 03:50:30 PM
Aren't you worried about too much monos from the olive oil?

not at all i gain no fat from it, plus its the benefits from the oleic acid wich are crucial to overall health and less sticknyness between platlettes , blood flow is much better

the only down side is sometimes you can consume too much, but its good to test the upper limit of what you can handle, you never know how much you need
Title: Re: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: PJim on November 17, 2009, 04:01:03 PM
not at all i gain no fat from it, plus its the benefits from the oleic acid wich are crucial to overall health and less sticknyness between platlettes , blood flow is much better

the only down side is sometimes you can consume too much, but its good to test the upper limit of what you can handle, you never know how much you need

Yeah, I suppose the balance of fatty acids is a coin toss.
Title: Re: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: Marty Champions on November 17, 2009, 04:01:29 PM
its odd with the olive oil , if im sitting down too much or relaxing too much with the olive oil on my stomach i start to feel sick

however when i stand i feel much better


this would be the total opposite effect of most regular food, in wich you feel comfortable sitting eating and relaxing

your body is better off moving with the olive oil
Title: Re: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: Marty Champions on November 17, 2009, 04:02:40 PM
Yeah, I suppose the balance of fatty acids is a coin toss.

there is much positive research that olive oil has the ability to reverse diabetes no other oil can make this claim

its not just a mono either its the oleic acid wich detoxifies everything
Title: Re: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: PJim on November 17, 2009, 04:05:00 PM
What's your saturated intake like Johnnay?
Title: Re: a public service announcement for all the "in-shape" guys here
Post by: The.Giant on November 17, 2009, 04:05:26 PM
wise words indeed.
Title: Re: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: Marty Champions on November 17, 2009, 04:12:30 PM
What's your saturated intake like Johnnay?

it varies sometimes i have 2 pints of ben and jerries a day


but today i tried to eat icecream but couldnt because i had too much olive oil on my stomach, but in an hour after i workout i may try to eat it again if my taste buds are perked to eat it

olive oil kills all food cravings
Title: Re: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: ChristopherA on November 17, 2009, 05:25:01 PM
Imagine if the pros were to find out about this Faylcan secret. We would have shredded 300lbers all over the place! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: Ursus on November 17, 2009, 06:18:33 PM
I'm a bread man.
Title: Re: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: Marty Champions on November 17, 2009, 09:49:14 PM
I'm a bread man.

Im more of a sugar and oil freak

because i love sweet foods like icecream and cheescakes and different fruit juices but i know to offset hardening of my arteries i get probably plenty enough olive oil to increase the viscosity
Title: Re: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: LatsMcGee on November 18, 2009, 01:49:14 AM
ive been trolling the internets since 1996

Stop mixing simple sugars with fats. 
Title: Re: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: Marty Champions on November 18, 2009, 05:38:32 AM
Stop mixing simple sugars with fats. 

right now im trying to grow maximally and train to capacity
Title: Re: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: io856 on November 18, 2009, 05:42:14 AM
I just had a really good quality excretion I wonder if the olive oil helped that
Title: Re: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: Marty Champions on November 18, 2009, 05:46:28 AM
I just had a really good quality excretion I wonder if the olive oil helped that

oh yes definilty

one time i tried max consumption on canola oil, that gave me the worst white water rapids shits all night long that shit is toxic but not the olive oil

too much olive oil and u might feel a little queezy if you sit around and relax after a big serving of it, its best to do some pushups or something to cycle the oil through your muscles
Title: Re: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: Tombo on November 18, 2009, 08:22:35 AM
I'm a bread man.

dude me too...

nothing looks tastier/smells better than a freshly baked loaf of white crusty bread h0mg
Title: Re: Not following a traditional bodybuilding diet / training protocol
Post by: LatsMcGee on November 19, 2009, 02:29:02 AM
right now im trying to grow maximally and train to capacity

Than eat 2lbs of red meat a day.