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Title: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: GetItOnNY on November 21, 2009, 09:13:04 AM
Listen I dont have Steve Blechman, but I didnt like what he did to Dave and John.Its was just wrong in every shape and form.
Shawn Ray, and Flex Wheeler is doing the same thing and they still have there jobs....Anyways Here is my point.
My athlete did a big spread in MD, and it was alot of pages.
Steve didnt pay the guy a dime!!!!
I was like WTF.
Steve has never had to struggle for money, not one second of his life.
He was given Twinlab.You got these poor athletes who dont make any money unless they get a contract.
Steve Charges something $10,000 per page per month to advertise in his magazine.Yet he puts these 5-10 page spreads on these athletes, and doesnt pay then a dime.Why not give the athlete atleast $500 or $1000 for his time.The athletes eats trains and works his ass off, and yu make money off of the athletes why not pay them?
Steve can I have free advertising in your magazine for free?
Hello no!!!! Bodybuilders, have alot of expenses, you got food, supplements,anabolics and everything else.
Bodybuilding is a very very expensive sport.Just eating costs $200 a week.
Steve Blechamn if you are going to charge supplement companies money to advertise in your magazine, then you should pay athletes for photo shoots.Steve $500 or even $1000 bucks is like $20 to you.
Your a friggin Multi-Millionaire, why not help a few guys out with some money.It is the right thing to do.You know it, I know, the athletes know it.
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Pete Nice on November 21, 2009, 09:15:01 AM
Did you get the protein powder test results back yet big man?
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Mr Nobody on November 21, 2009, 09:20:51 AM
Blechman is a schome
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Blockhead on November 21, 2009, 09:29:56 AM
Listen I dont have Steve Blechman, but I didnt like what he did to Dave and John.Its was just wrong in every shape and form.
Shawn Ray, and Flex Wheeler is doing the same thing and they still have there jobs....Anyways Here is my point.
My athlete did a big spread in MD, and it was alot of pages.
Steve didnt pay the guy a dime!!!!
I was like WTF.
Steve has never had to struggle for money, not one second of his life.
He was given Twinlab.You got these poor athletes who dont make any money unless they get a contract.
Steve Charges something $10,000 per page per month to advertise in his magazine.Yet he puts these 5-10 page spreads on these athletes, and doesnt pay then a dime.Why not give the athlete atleast $500 or $1000 for his time.The athletes eats trains and works his ass off, and yu make money off of the athletes why not pay them?
Steve can I have free advertising in your magazine for free?
Hello no!!!! Bodybuilders, have alot of expenses, you got food, supplements,anabolics and everything else.
Bodybuilding is a very very expensive sport.Just eating costs $200 a week.
Steve Blechamn if you are going to charge supplement companies money to advertise in your magazine, then you should pay athletes for photo shoots.Steve $500 or even $1000 bucks is like $20 to you.
Your a friggin Multi-Millionaire, why not help a few guys out with some money.It is the right thing to do.You know it, I know, the athletes know it.
ohn.


 You know the truth just as much as I do. No matter what. Wether they are 15 or 50... a bodybuilder is a bodybuilder is a bodybuilder. They are liars, flakes, scumbags, lowlifes, mutts, mooches and poor buisnessmen. Steve Buttman knows the psyche of a bodybuilder so why should he throw money at some bodbulder when he knows that 99% of the time the bodybuilder will do it for FREE just for the sake of being in a magazine.

 I don't blame Steve Gluteman. I blame the bodybuilder who just wants to 'play politics' and try to 'look good and positive' for the false hopes that it may help his placing.


 Shawn Ray was never Mr. Olympia because when he was young he knew not to do NOTHING for free for anybody.



 - Block!
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: BayGBM on November 21, 2009, 09:30:03 AM
Listen I dont have Steve Blechman, but I didnt like what he did to Dave and John.Its was just wrong in every shape and form.
Shawn Ray, and Flex Wheeler is doing the same thing and they still have there jobs....Anyways Here is my point.
My athlete did a big spread in MD, and it was alot of pages.
Steve didnt pay the guy a dime!!!!
I was like WTF.
Steve has never had to struggle for money, not one second of his life.
He was given Twinlab.You got these poor athletes who dont make any money unless they get a contract.
Steve Charges something $10,000 per page per month to advertise in his magazine.Yet he puts these 5-10 page spreads on these athletes, and doesnt pay then a dime.Why not give the athlete atleast $500 or $1000 for his time.The athletes eats trains and works his ass off, and yu make money off of the athletes why not pay them?
Steve can I have free advertising in your magazine for free?
Hello no!!!! Bodybuilders, have alot of expenses, you got food, supplements,anabolics and everything else.
Bodybuilding is a very very expensive sport.Just eating costs $200 a week.
Steve Blechamn if you are going to charge supplement companies money to advertise in your magazine, then you should pay athletes for photo shoots.Steve $500 or even $1000 bucks is like $20 to you.
Your a friggin Multi-Millionaire, why not help a few guys out with some money.It is the right thing to do.You know it, I know, the athletes know it.

Why did your athlete agree to 'work'/appear in the magazine for free? ???
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: OneMoreRep on November 21, 2009, 09:45:48 AM
Sorry GetItOn, but Blechman is right..  

He knows that these guys will do anything for a little exposure.  Blechman understands that underneath the 180+ lbs. of artificial muscle these guys carry, there is a shy, insecure, little boy that has very little understanding of the world of business and due to the extremes that they've undergone (buying illegal substances, injecting all sorts of oils into often questionable body parts, G4P and even selling drugs to fund their own "career"), he knows that they will do just about anything to feel as if they've made it to the spotlight.  Truth be told, unless you're a top 10 Olympia contender, what difference does it make if you get paid nothing to do the 5-10 page spread in Muscular development?

Why pay these athletes anything when they don't deserve it?  

Blechman knows that unless these guys are top-tier Pros, there is no reason to pay them a dime.  Even then, he also understands that publicity, is still worth a lot to these guys.  The level of exposure that they will receive worldwide by appearing in muscular development alone is worth more than a measly $500-$1000.

Lets blame the bodybuilders for being such fucking idiots and incapable of having more of a business savvy approach to selling their synthetic bodies.


"1"
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Victor VonDoom on November 21, 2009, 09:46:23 AM
Good point.  Why did he do it?  'tis better to be cheap than stupid!  Bah!

Doom disapproves.
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on November 21, 2009, 09:51:08 AM
Listen I dont have Steve Blechman, but I didnt like what he did to Dave and John.Its was just wrong in every shape and form.
Shawn Ray, and Flex Wheeler is doing the same thing and they still have there jobs....Anyways Here is my point.
My athlete did a big spread in MD, and it was alot of pages.
Steve didnt pay the guy a dime!!!!
I was like WTF.
Steve has never had to struggle for money, not one second of his life.
He was given Twinlab.You got these poor athletes who dont make any money unless they get a contract.
Steve Charges something $10,000 per page per month to advertise in his magazine.Yet he puts these 5-10 page spreads on these athletes, and doesnt pay then a dime.Why not give the athlete atleast $500 or $1000 for his time.The athletes eats trains and works his ass off, and yu make money off of the athletes why not pay them?
Steve can I have free advertising in your magazine for free?
Hello no!!!! Bodybuilders, have alot of expenses, you got food, supplements,anabolics and everything else.
Bodybuilding is a very very expensive sport.Just eating costs $200 a week.
Steve Blechamn if you are going to charge supplement companies money to advertise in your magazine, then you should pay athletes for photo shoots.Steve $500 or even $1000 bucks is like $20 to you.
Your a friggin Multi-Millionaire, why not help a few guys out with some money.It is the right thing to do.You know it, I know, the athletes know it.


That exposure in a magazine is good enough.  That translates into dollars if its capitalized on by Robert correctly.  He could land a great sponsorship with the majory company with those pictures as his calling card.
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: GetItOnNY on November 21, 2009, 09:52:19 AM
Block,,,,,, I just want people to know this.I know how Steve is, if he see's my post it willl bother him and it might get him to cough up some money.
Our industry is small and Steve Blechman is very very self conscience, you can tell by the clothes he wears the weay he acts.He is very insecure about himself.
I wouldnt want to be known as cheap, would you.?
Hopefully this will help him be more generous to bodybuilders.

Bay, I dont know.If he wanted to do a shoot with me, I better have some cash or a check afterwards.If I drove or flew to some place.You know most of the guys buy nicers clothes for the photo shoot, and then you have gas money.So to do a photo shoot actually costs a athlete.
If I did a shoot, and I didnt get paid, I would be on the phone with my lawyer
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: BayGBM on November 21, 2009, 09:55:44 AM
Block,,,,,, I just want people to know this.I know how Steve is, if he see's my post it willl bother him and it might get him to cough up some money.
Our industry is small and Steve Blechman is very very self conscience, you can tell by the clothes he wears the weay he acts.He is very insecure about himself.
I wouldnt want to be known as cheap, would you.?
Hopefully this will help him be more generous to bodybuilders.

Bay, I dont know.If he wanted to do a shoot with me, I better have some cash or a check afterwards.If I drove or flew to some place.You know most of the guys buy nicers clothes for the photo shoot, and then you have gas money.So to do a photo shoot actually costs a athlete.
If I did a shoot, and I didnt get paid, I would be on the phone with my lawyer

You make it sound as if not getting paid after the fact came as a surprise.  If your friend wanted to get paid for the photo shoot why didn't he go into it with a contractual agreement to be paid? ???
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on November 21, 2009, 10:00:18 AM
Listen I dont have Steve Blechman, but I didnt like what he did to Dave and John.Its was just wrong in every shape and form.
Shawn Ray, and Flex Wheeler is doing the same thing and they still have there jobs....Anyways Here is my point.
My athlete did a big spread in MD, and it was alot of pages.
Steve didnt pay the guy a dime!!!!
I was like WTF.
Steve has never had to struggle for money, not one second of his life.
He was given Twinlab.You got these poor athletes who dont make any money unless they get a contract.
Steve Charges something $10,000 per page per month to advertise in his magazine.Yet he puts these 5-10 page spreads on these athletes, and doesnt pay then a dime.Why not give the athlete atleast $500 or $1000 for his time.The athletes eats trains and works his ass off, and yu make money off of the athletes why not pay them?
Steve can I have free advertising in your magazine for free?
Hello no!!!! Bodybuilders, have alot of expenses, you got food, supplements,anabolics and everything else.
Bodybuilding is a very very expensive sport.Just eating costs $200 a week.
Steve Blechamn if you are going to charge supplement companies money to advertise in your magazine, then you should pay athletes for photo shoots.Steve $500 or even $1000 bucks is like $20 to you.
Your a friggin Multi-Millionaire, why not help a few guys out with some money.It is the right thing to do.You know it, I know, the athletes know it.
Gayest sentence ever
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Van_Bilderass on November 21, 2009, 10:02:03 AM

If I did a shoot, and I didnt get paid, I would be on the phone with my lawyer

Are you saying Blechman breached a contract? If he didn't, why would you be on the phone with a lawyer?

You're not too smart.  :D
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: 240 is Back on November 21, 2009, 10:07:33 AM
I know a lot of personal trainers, models, and bodybuilders who would KILL to be able to showcase work in a major muscle magazine.

Paid or not, it's an hour or two of their time they freely choose to donate.  And it opens up a ton of doors.  The guy will be a household name to bodybuilding fans everywhere, even if he ends up not winning.
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: BayGBM on November 21, 2009, 10:15:23 AM
I know a lot of personal trainers, models, and bodybuilders who would KILL to be able to showcase work in a major muscle magazine.

Paid or not, it's an hour or two of their time they freely choose to donate.  And it opens up a ton of doors.  The guy will be a household name to bodybuilding fans everywhere, even if he ends up not winning.

You can't pay bills with that.  Do you know how many household names have come and gone in BB with no cash to show for it? ???

I'm not saying posing for free is a bad idea, but it's not necessarily a ticket to anything either.
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Van_Bilderass on November 21, 2009, 10:32:10 AM
You can't pay bills with that.  Do you know how many household names have come and gone in BB with no cash to show for it? ???

I think GetItOnNY owes it to Robert to give him at least a 100K contract. Why should John just use him for promoting his Extreme supplements?
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: OneMoreRep on November 21, 2009, 10:33:44 AM
You can't pay bills with that.

Sure you can...  

The gay community will sponsor such a young man in a way that will allow him to survive.  Just because he might potentially fail within the world of professional bodybuilding, doesn't mean that he doesn't have a huge shot at the world of Gay 4 Pay or even within the realm of gay magazines (see: Rusty Jeffers).

Oh and (no homo), but the proof is in the pudding..

(http://www.iconmen.com/images/the_icon_men/models/enlarge/1000004.jpg)

"1"
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: wavelength on November 21, 2009, 11:06:41 AM
this whole industry is fucked up, whoever gets into it is crazy anyway
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: dr.chimps on November 21, 2009, 11:08:56 AM
I think GetItOnNY owes it to Robert to give him at least a 100K contract. Why should John just use him for promoting his Extreme supplements?
Agree. Those soiled manties ain't gonna get mailed on goodwill.   
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: wavelength on November 21, 2009, 11:10:44 AM
Agree. Those soiled manties ain't gonna get mailed on goodwill.   

sometimes I think it's all a bad dream and this can't really be happening
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Matt C on November 21, 2009, 11:14:48 AM
Listen I dont have Steve Blechman, but I didnt like what he did to Dave and John.Its was just wrong in every shape and form.
Shawn Ray, and Flex Wheeler is doing the same thing and they still have there jobs....Anyways Here is my point.
My athlete did a big spread in MD, and it was alot of pages.
Steve didnt pay the guy a dime!!!!
I was like WTF.
Steve has never had to struggle for money, not one second of his life.
He was given Twinlab.You got these poor athletes who dont make any money unless they get a contract.
Steve Charges something $10,000 per page per month to advertise in his magazine.Yet he puts these 5-10 page spreads on these athletes, and doesnt pay then a dime.Why not give the athlete atleast $500 or $1000 for his time.The athletes eats trains and works his ass off, and yu make money off of the athletes why not pay them?
Steve can I have free advertising in your magazine for free?
Hello no!!!! Bodybuilders, have alot of expenses, you got food, supplements,anabolics and everything else.
Bodybuilding is a very very expensive sport.Just eating costs $200 a week.
Steve Blechamn if you are going to charge supplement companies money to advertise in your magazine, then you should pay athletes for photo shoots.Steve $500 or even $1000 bucks is like $20 to you.
Your a friggin Multi-Millionaire, why not help a few guys out with some money.It is the right thing to do.You know it, I know, the athletes know it.

No, Steve will pay his athletes bodybuilders as little as the market will bear, unfortunately that number is $0.

I recommend that you tell your athlete bodybuilder that if he doesn't like the terms to not do it.
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: wavelength on November 21, 2009, 11:17:39 AM
No, Steve will pay his athletes bodybuilders as little as the market will bear, unfortunately that number is $0.

I recommend that you tell your athlete bodybuilder that if he doesn't like the terms to not do it.

Exactly, stop the whining and don't do it!
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: dr.chimps on November 21, 2009, 11:19:30 AM
sometimes I think it's all a bad dream and this can't really be happening
Still waiting on your order? Maybe try on-line tracking.    ;D
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Van_Bilderass on November 21, 2009, 11:26:07 AM
No, Steve will pay his athletes bodybuilders as little as the market will bear, unfortunately that number is $0.

I recommend that you tell your athlete bodybuilder that if he doesn't like the terms to not do it.

Maybe GetItOnNY isn't a fan of the free market? More of a communist type?
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: TRIX on November 21, 2009, 11:46:04 AM
$10,000 a page? . Roughly 200 ads WHOLE PAGE ads not including the small ones, banners etc. So you're telling me steve makes $2 million per magazine from ads? 
 
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Special Ed on November 21, 2009, 12:05:24 PM
Block,,,,,, I just want people to know this.I know how Steve is, if he see's my post it willl bother him and it might get him to cough up some money.
Our industry is small and Steve Blechman is very very self conscience, you can tell by the clothes he wears the weay he acts.He is very insecure about himself.
I wouldnt want to be known as cheap, would you.?
Hopefully this will help him be more generous to bodybuilders.

Bay, I dont know.If he wanted to do a shoot with me, I better have some cash or a check afterwards.If I drove or flew to some place.You know most of the guys buy nicers clothes for the photo shoot, and then you have gas money.So to do a photo shoot actually costs a athlete.
If I did a shoot, and I didnt get paid, I would be on the phone with my lawyer
Everyone in this game already knows how cheap Blechman is. They know how he stiffed Justin Harris and dozens of other writers and bodybuilders out of money they were promised or led to believe was forthcoming. When I did some work for MD, a certain someone VERY close to Steve told me:

"Whatever you do, you have to absolutely 100% get it in writing or Steve won't pay you. It's that simple."

So I faxed over a contract and sure enough, Steve balked and postponed signing it until the very, very last minute and eventually his wife signed it. I have no doubt, zero, that they fully intended to stiff me out of payment.

When Blechman later asked me to do other work, the only issue was payment and I never received a satisfactory response, as he would have Palumbo step in and call me 'lazy' or ask why I didn't want to work with him.

The number of bodybuilders screwed over by Blechman is no secret. Complaining about it is like a guy with 7 posts complaining to Ron that "this Squadfather guy is being mean to me."
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: LatsMcGee on November 21, 2009, 12:09:59 PM
I'm sure Steve offered your friend a salad tossing as fair compensation. 
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Matt C on November 21, 2009, 12:57:08 PM
Maybe GetItOnNY isn't a fan of the free market? More of a communist type?

 ;D

Maybe GetItOnNY thinks that if I dig holes and refill them all day I should get paid a huge salary because of my "hard work" and "dedication"?  ::)
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: G o a t b o y on November 21, 2009, 01:19:41 PM
;D

Maybe GetItOnNY thinks that if I dig holes and refill them all day I should get paid a huge salary because of my "hard work" and "dedication"?  ::)


Im sure your socialist Canadian government would pay you to do that.  And you'd be given up to 355 paid sick days a year, too.
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Slapper on November 21, 2009, 01:20:06 PM
Is he Jewish?
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Matt C on November 21, 2009, 01:34:34 PM

Im sure your socialist Canadian government would pay you to do that.  And you'd be given up to 355 paid sick days a year, too.

Everything that's right about Canada is capitalist, everything that is wrong about Canada is socialist, with very little exception.

I wish politicians around here would get the fucking clue, but no - they call for more and more socialism.  ::)
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: mwbbuilder on November 21, 2009, 01:56:31 PM
So how much is GetItOnNY paying Robert for the honer of whoring his name around?

Free supplements?

Please tell us how much you are paying your "athlete"?

Kettle, meet black.
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: gordiano on November 21, 2009, 03:13:59 PM
Who are these athletes you people keep referring to? Which sport are you talking about?
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: GetItOnNY on November 21, 2009, 03:53:50 PM
Robert, isn't free.He gets free supplements, and all his expenses paid.
Plus he is paid for every appearance he makes with us.He makes good money.Yes he could make better money, but between all his sponsors he does pretty well actually.
Robert has a big contract in Europe with a large distributor that pays him well as well.
Our company is growing by the day, and we are trying to negotiate a contract with Robert for exclusives, but he wants to wait until after the show which is smart.
He uses only our supplements but he has other sponsors, just like Cutler does.
I think Jay has at least 10 diffrent sponsors.
Robert is worth at least $100,000 a year, if not more.
My point is we pay Robert for everything he does, and so should Steve.
When Robert stood at our booth at the Mr Olympia, he was paid, when he stood at our booth for another expo and guest posed, he was paid.
Time = money ...Plain and simple
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: just_a_pilgrim on November 21, 2009, 04:06:30 PM
If he doesn't want to do it, and doesn't see the value in doing it, then don't fucking do it.

Or you could do it for free and then get your bitch to come on here and complain about it for 10 pages.
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Smokincrazy on November 21, 2009, 04:14:02 PM
Robert, isn't free.He gets free supplements, and all his expenses paid.
Plus he is paid for every appearance he makes with us.He makes good money.Yes he could make better money, but between all his sponsors he does pretty well actually.
Robert has a big contract in Europe with a large distributor that pays him well as well.
Our company is growing by the day, and we are trying to negotiate a contract with Robert for exclusives, but he wants to wait until after the show which is smart.
He uses only our supplements but he has other sponsors, just like Cutler does.
I think Jay has at least 10 diffrent sponsors.
Robert is worth at least $100,000 a year, if not more.
My point is we pay Robert for everything he does, and so should Steve.
When Robert stood at our booth at the Mr Olympia, he was paid, when he stood at our booth for another expo and guest posed, he was paid.
Time = money ...Plain and simple

That's exactly right
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: GetItOnNY on November 21, 2009, 04:21:55 PM
I just want Steve to pay Atletes for photo shoots.
Flex does, Muscle and Fitness do as well.
Robert is even being paid to compete.
If an athlete does something and you benefit from it, you should pay the athlete.
Steve can easily afford a $500 -$1000 to pay an athlete.
I think its arrogant, and cheap IMO.
We all know bodybuilding is a very very expensive sport.
If your a national competitors and your good.Your going to spend at least $5000-$15000 on gear getting ready for Nationals.I heard alot of guys at the National level use 12-18ius of GH per day.
Thats about $500-$700 a week on GH alone.Then you got all the other s$#$
Its adds up quick.Trust me.I know
There is a lightheavy who is now a heavy who I know who spent $12000 getting ready for the USA's!!! Thats a down payment on a house.
I never spent more then $1500, maybe thats why I only made top 10.
Plus I have shittty symmetry so, I had not chance of winning, but I knew that
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: calfzilla on November 21, 2009, 04:26:26 PM
I think I told this story before but whatever.  One day long time ago, I had a subscript to MD, I didn't get it one month so I emailed or called (can't remember) and the bitch was like well we sent it out, but we will send another one.  But their tone was as if I was lying to get a free MD when I already had a subscription.   ::)    Way to treat a loyal customer.  
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: just_a_pilgrim on November 21, 2009, 04:30:43 PM
I just want Steve to pay Atletes for photo shoots.
Flex does, Muscle and Fitness do as well.
Robert is even being paid to compete.
If an athlete does something and you benefit from it, you should pay the athlete.
Steve can easily afford a $500 -$1000 to pay an athlete.
I think its arrogant, and cheap IMO.
We all know bodybuilding is a very very expensive sport.
If your a national competitors and your good.Your going to spend at least $5000-$15000 on gear getting ready for Nationals.I heard alot of guys at the National level use 12-18ius of GH per day.
Thats about $500-$700 a week on GH alone.Then you got all the other s$#$
Its adds up quick.Trust me.I know
There is a lightheavy who is now a heavy who I know who spent $12000 getting ready for the USA's!!! Thats a down payment on a house.
I never spent more then $1500, maybe thats why I only made top 10.
Plus I have shittty symmetry so, I had not chance of winning, but I knew that

No-one's forcing them to do it. You act as if people should kiss a bodybuilders ass just because he's in the nationals. Start your own magazine if you don't like it.
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Smokincrazy on November 21, 2009, 04:32:29 PM
He's just pointing out a problem with the industry.  He's just looking out for the fellow bodybuilder so they get compensated
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: just_a_pilgrim on November 21, 2009, 04:35:50 PM
He's just pointing out a problem with the industry.  He's just looking out for the fellow bodybuilder so they get compensated

He's pointing out a problem with MD only.

Why doesn't RB go do a shoot with M&F or Flex then if they pay him? Why do it with someone who doesn't pay you then complain.
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Blockhead on November 21, 2009, 04:44:45 PM
sometimes I think it's all a bad dream and this can't really be happening
I've finally woken up. I used to think the same things about the bodybuilding industry.


 Truth of the matter is that it IS happening. Schmoes, Fetish and Deviants are making bank off of the backs of losers who do G4P, steal, mooch, scam, sell drugs and lie their way through a "bodybuilding career".


 This is a sick sick industry. I am ashamed to ever think I was a part of it. It's so disgusting when you see it through the eyes of someone who's seen the ins and outs and the outs and the ins and the ins and the outs of it.


 Over 500 competitors in Florida this weekend. Almost 200 men competing to get a Pro Card. Out of close to 200 men I am willing to bet only about 50 of them have a job or a real profession that provides health insurance and a pension-plan. The rest of them absolutely without a doubt hustles fag gots, sell drugs, their asses or mooches off of naive women to get by being satisfied with their gyms dues being paid and the ability to score another kit of growth.


 Close to 200 Figure sluts. I know figure sluts and I am here to say that out of close to 200 that about the SAME number of girls have a real job or profession that provides health insurance and a 401k. The rest hustle schmoes, dorks with no dicks who will pay for their fantasy lifestyle or sell thier asses or mouth for money.


 Don't get me stated on female bodybuilding...




  - Block!
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Topskin69 on November 21, 2009, 04:59:20 PM
I just want Steve to pay Atletes for photo shoots.
Flex does, Muscle and Fitness do as well.
Robert is even being paid to compete.
If an athlete does something and you benefit from it, you should pay the athlete.
Steve can easily afford a $500 -$1000 to pay an athlete.
I think its arrogant, and cheap IMO.
We all know bodybuilding is a very very expensive sport.
If your a national competitors and your good.Your going to spend at least $5000-$15000 on gear getting ready for Nationals.I heard alot of guys at the National level use 12-18ius of GH per day.
Thats about $500-$700 a week on GH alone.Then you got all the other s$#$
Its adds up quick.Trust me.I know
There is a lightheavy who is now a heavy who I know who spent $12000 getting ready for the USA's!!! Thats a down payment on a house.
I never spent more then $1500, maybe thats why I only made top 10.
Plus I have shittty symmetry so, I had not chance of winning, but I knew that

Excuse me... anyone paying 15grand for a show, is either got the crappiest genetics this side of Vince Goodrum, the worst gear hookup ever, or is taking WAY more then they need. Anyone taking 18 I.U.s of growth on a continuous basis is a clown.
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Matt C on November 21, 2009, 05:04:07 PM
I like how people here think how much you get paid is based on how hard you work rather than based on the actual value of your production.

Pay me money to run around the block!!!  After all, it's "hard work".
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Topskin69 on November 21, 2009, 05:13:16 PM
I like how people here think how much you get paid is based on how hard you work rather than based on the actual value of your production.

Pay me money to run around the block!!!  After all, it's "hard work".

In general principle you are correct, but what is this guys actual value. Obviously he has some value to Blechman, as he wouldn't do a spread in his magazine just out of some misguided sense of altruism. No I think its safe to say that Steve needs to keep fresh meat in his mag to keep the schomes, and fans happy.

So basically what we have here is just outright exploitation. A raw deal is the only deal available to most bodybuilders, so they take what they can get.

That being said...the best thing to do in this industry, (much like the music industry), is to get screwed for the first few years, while you market yourself, and get a fanbase, and once you actually have some weight, refuse to accept anything less, then reasonable compensation.

I remember an interview with Craig Titus some years back, where he encouraged all up and coming bodybuilders to take as many free photo opportunities as they could in the early years, and it would pay off in the long run. Its not the way it should be...but it is the best way to approach it, if you cant demand compensation right out the gate.
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: flexingtonsteele on November 21, 2009, 05:50:48 PM
I've finally woken up. I used to think the same things about the bodybuilding industry.


 Truth of the matter is that it IS happening. Schmoes, Fetish and Deviants are making bank off of the backs of losers who do G4P, steal, mooch, scam, sell drugs and lie their way through a "bodybuilding career".


 This is a sick sick industry. I am ashamed to ever think I was a part of it. It's so disgusting when you see it through the eyes of someone who's seen the ins and outs and the outs and the ins and the ins and the outs of it.


 Over 500 competitors in Florida this weekend. Almost 200 men competing to get a Pro Card. Out of close to 200 men I am willing to bet only about 50 of them have a job or a real profession that provides health insurance and a pension-plan. The rest of them absolutely without a doubt hustles fag gots, sell drugs, their asses or mooches off of naive women to get by being satisfied with their gyms dues being paid and the ability to score another kit of growth.


 Close to 200 Figure sluts. I know figure sluts and I am here to say that out of close to 200 that about the SAME number of girls have a real job or profession that provides health insurance and a 401k. The rest hustle schmoes, dorks with no dicks who will pay for their fantasy lifestyle or sell thier asses or mouth for money.


 Don't get me stated on female bodybuilding...




  - Block!

^^^^ = 100% Truth!
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Matt C on November 21, 2009, 05:56:17 PM
^^^^ = 100% Truth!

That's all industries I think.  Lots of businesspeople got their start in nasty things like drugs or whatever else.  I admit, bodybuilding is perhaps a bit more deep into it, but still.
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Mr Nobody on November 21, 2009, 06:02:21 PM
Blechman 100% fag
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on November 21, 2009, 06:05:38 PM
That's all industries I think.  Lots of businesspeople got their start in nasty things like drugs or whatever else.  I admit, bodybuilding is perhaps a bit more deep into it, but still.

No it isn't you moron.  BTW, business and people are two separate words
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Relentless on November 21, 2009, 06:55:02 PM
Listen I dont have Steve Blechman, but I didnt like what he did to Dave and John.Its was just wrong in every shape and form.
Shawn Ray, and Flex Wheeler is doing the same thing and they still have there jobs....Anyways Here is my point.
My athlete did a big spread in MD, and it was alot of pages.
Steve didnt pay the guy a dime!!!!
I was like WTF.
Steve has never had to struggle for money, not one second of his life.
He was given Twinlab.You got these poor athletes who dont make any money unless they get a contract.
Steve Charges something $10,000 per page per month to advertise in his magazine.Yet he puts these 5-10 page spreads on these athletes, and doesnt pay then a dime.Why not give the athlete atleast $500 or $1000 for his time.The athletes eats trains and works his ass off, and yu make money off of the athletes why not pay them?
Steve can I have free advertising in your magazine for free?
Hello no!!!! Bodybuilders, have alot of expenses, you got food, supplements,anabolics and everything else.
Bodybuilding is a very very expensive sport.Just eating costs $200 a week.
Steve Blechamn if you are going to charge supplement companies money to advertise in your magazine, then you should pay athletes for photo shoots.Steve $500 or even $1000 bucks is like $20 to you.
Your a friggin Multi-Millionaire, why not help a few guys out with some money.It is the right thing to do.You know it, I know, the athletes know it.

Every dollar in this world is guarded and if one cannot find a way to unlock the safe, then so be it.  NO ONE DESERVES ANYTHING.
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Mobil on November 21, 2009, 08:53:15 PM
bber mags dont pay any bbers any money... jeez.. had aguy at my gym do aspread in musclemag didnt get a dime. just got expenses paid that was it. why pay someone any money, when u know any bber would do it for free? just to get publicity
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: wavelength on November 21, 2009, 09:23:16 PM
That's all industries I think.  Lots of businesspeople got their start in nasty things like drugs or whatever else.  I admit, bodybuilding is perhaps a bit more deep into it, but still.

LOL, are you serious?
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: MattT on November 21, 2009, 10:52:25 PM
How much do you think Tray Brewer gets paid by MD now that he's signed with them?
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: body88 on November 21, 2009, 11:02:39 PM
That's all industries I think.  Lots of businesspeople got their start in nasty things like drugs or whatever else.  I admit, bodybuilding is perhaps a bit more deep into it, but still.


Stupidest post I've seen in a long time.  Congrats  :)
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Matt C on November 21, 2009, 11:12:56 PM

Stupidest post I've seen in a long time.  Congrats  :)

I think you're naive if you don't believe all industries have seedy things going on.  I will admit, bodybuilding likely has more of it but part of the reason we might think that is because it's such a visual industry.  Not to mention, the entire "bodybuilding industry" is a very small percentage of the economy.
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: CalvinH on November 21, 2009, 11:49:14 PM

Stupidest post I've seen in a long time.  Congrats  :)


He is consistent.
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Matt C on November 21, 2009, 11:58:41 PM

He is consistent.

And you are a fucking moron if you don't think drugs - at 5% of the global economy - are rampant EVERYWHERE.
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: CalvinH on November 22, 2009, 12:22:24 AM
And you are a fucking moron if you don't think drugs - at 5% of the global economy - are rampant EVERYWHERE.


Meltdown
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Matt C on November 22, 2009, 12:32:36 AM

Meltdown

Opiates and alcohol represent a huge amount of money in the global economy.
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: CalvinH on November 22, 2009, 12:51:54 AM
Opiates and alcohol represent a huge amount of money in the global economy.


Haha,alright that made me lol ;D
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Matt C on November 22, 2009, 01:08:10 AM

Haha,alright that made me lol ;D

 ;D
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: GetItOnNY on November 22, 2009, 11:29:37 AM
Listen, I don't want to bash Steve Blechman, because he owns and MD.
He does help some athletes out , but not all of them.
He signed Trey Brewer, and Brandon Ray, who both really don't deserve contracts.So why cant he just pay a athlete $500 or even $1000 for a photo shoot.To make matters worse the pics he takes he doesn't give any to the athletes so they can use to market themselves.When the athlete calls for the photos they get the run around.
Quincy Taylor was at the airpot with my on my way back to Vegas.
Quincy Taylor is one huge mofo, but is the coolest cat in the world.
He even said he did a shoot for MD didn't get paid, and couldn't get any of the pics from MD to use for the company who was sponsoring him.
He then said MD want to shoot him again he said no , because he wanted to
paid .So MD tried to call his sponsor to make him do the shoot.
Quincy is smart, he knows, time= money.
You work hard, diet, train, but gear, you should be paid for your efforts
If a smaller company like mine can pay athlete to appear or take pics, I know Steve Blechman can.
Steve Blechman quit being so cheap.Pay these athletes dammit.
Steve wants to be paid by me to advertise in his magazine.
How would he feel if I had him puts adds of my products in his magazine and just said thank you and didn't pay him.He wouldn't go for it.
I tell all the athletes I know, if they don't pay you, just say no.
One photo is free, a photo shoot, you better have a check or cash in hand.
Steve is a multimillionaire, $500 or even a $ 1000 is like $10 to most people.
Steve ...please pay these athletes, or please leave our industry
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Blockhead on November 22, 2009, 11:50:14 AM
Listen, I don't want to bash Steve Blechman, because he owns and MD.
He does help some athletes out , but not all of them.
He signed Trey Brewer, and Brandon Ray, who both really don't deserve contracts.So why cant he just pay a athlete $500 or even $1000 for a photo shoot.To make matters worse the pics he takes he doesn't give any to the athletes so they can use to market themselves.When the athlete calls for the photos they get the run around.
Quincy Taylor was at the airpot with my on my way back to Vegas.
Quincy Taylor is one huge mofo, but is the coolest cat in the world.
He even said he did a shoot for MD didn't get paid, and couldn't get any of the pics from MD to use for the company who was sponsoring him.
He then said MD want to shoot him again he said no , because he wanted to
paid .So MD tried to call his sponsor to make him do the shoot.
Quincy is smart, he knows, time= money.
You work hard, diet, train, but gear, you should be paid for your efforts
If a smaller company like mine can pay athlete to appear or take pics, I know Steve Blechman can.
Steve Blechman quit being so cheap.Pay these athletes dammit.
Steve wants to be paid by me to advertise in his magazine.
How would he feel if I had him puts adds of my products in his magazine and just said thank you and didn't pay him.He wouldn't go for it.
I tell all the athletes I know, if they don't pay you, just say no.
One photo is free, a photo shoot, you better have a check or cash in hand.
Steve is a multimillionaire, $500 or even a $ 1000 is like $10 to most people.
Steve ...please pay these athletes, or please leave our industry

Yep. Quincy sure knows about time equaling MONEY.  David Jacobs wanted to get paid as well. Or get his 30k back.


 - Block!
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: jtsunami on November 22, 2009, 01:03:24 PM
ohn.


 You know the truth just as much as I do. No matter what. Wether they are 15 or 50... a bodybuilder is a bodybuilder is a bodybuilder. They are liars, flakes, scumbags, lowlifes, mutts, mooches and poor buisnessmen. Steve Buttman knows the psyche of a bodybuilder so why should he throw money at some bodbulder when he knows that 99% of the time the bodybuilder will do it for FREE just for the sake of being in a magazine.

 I don't blame Steve Gluteman. I blame the bodybuilder who just wants to 'play politics' and try to 'look good and positive' for the false hopes that it may help his placing.


 Shawn Ray was never Mr. Olympia because when he was young he knew not to do NOTHING for free for anybody.



 - Block!

um because it comes down to being a decent human being and being fair.  All this cheap scape shit will come back and bite him in his ass in the future.

Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: 240 is Back on November 22, 2009, 01:09:51 PM
So he tells these guys "We'd like you to do this photo spread.  I will pay you $0 but you will get exposure".


These guys can say yes, or they can say no.  It's that simple.  If every guy asked refused, he would very quickly have to start paying guys.  But many will do it for free.
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: funk51 on November 22, 2009, 01:58:32 PM
Listen I dont have Steve Blechman, but I didnt like what he did to Dave and John.Its was just wrong in every shape and form.
Shawn Ray, and Flex Wheeler is doing the same thing and they still have there jobs....Anyways Here is my point.
My athlete did a big spread in MD, and it was alot of pages.
Steve didnt pay the guy a dime!!!!
I was like WTF.
Steve has never had to struggle for money, not one second of his life.
He was given Twinlab.You got these poor athletes who dont make any money unless they get a contract.
Steve Charges something $10,000 per page per month to advertise in his magazine.Yet he puts these 5-10 page spreads on these athletes, and doesnt pay then a dime.Why not give the athlete atleast $500 or $1000 for his time.The athletes eats trains and works his ass off, and yu make money off of the athletes why not pay them?
Steve can I have free advertising in your magazine for free?
Hello no!!!! Bodybuilders, have alot of expenses, you got food, supplements,anabolics and everything else.
Bodybuilding is a very very expensive sport.Just eating costs $200 a week.
Steve Blechamn if you are going to charge supplement companies money to advertise in your magazine, then you should pay athletes for photo shoots.Steve $500 or even $1000 bucks is like $20 to you.
Your a friggin Multi-Millionaire, why not help a few guys out with some money.It is the right thing to do.You know it, I know, the athletes know it.
              i heard larry the legend used to stiff kennedy mmi all the time back in the day. but none beats weider useing dave draper but only paying him for the time he put in ,in the weider warehouses packing orders etc. arnold comes over he gives him 200 a week a car and apartment and all he had to do was train?
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: BayGBM on November 22, 2009, 02:03:03 PM
So he tells these guys "We'd like you to do this photo spread.  I will pay you $0 but you will get exposure".


These guys can say yes, or they can say no.  It's that simple.  If every guy asked refused, he would very quickly have to start paying guys.  But many will do it for free.


QFT.  This is not rocket science.  Why do these idiots work and pose for free only to complain about it later? ???
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Matt C on November 22, 2009, 02:13:44 PM
The most popular thread on my message forum is FILLED WITH COCK.  Almost 350,000 views and nothing but dick for 75 pages!
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Van_Bilderass on November 22, 2009, 02:20:28 PM
Who was cheaper, Weider or Blechman?

 
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: swilkins1984 on November 22, 2009, 02:26:54 PM
Exposure in MD? Please at my local Walmart, at one point I was the only guy that bought one. When Dave and John left I stopped completely. Now you see them in the 30% off bin while Flex and Muscle and Fitness sell well. Per Bernal is keeping MD alive with his great photography.
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: HTexan on November 22, 2009, 04:53:10 PM
QFT.  This is not rocket science.  Why do these idiots work and pose for free only to complain about it later? ???
i didn't know bbers got paid for mag photo shoots. I assumed that the IFBB made they do that for free?  ???
About how much do they get?
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Captain Equipoise on November 22, 2009, 05:06:55 PM
No bodybuilder simply will disagree because of ego and pride, being able to tell your mom and all your friends that you're in or on the cover of an internationally circulate magazine...
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: GetItOnNY on November 22, 2009, 06:26:39 PM
Listen bodybuilding is the hardest sport in the world.I played semi- pro football as a nose guard I ran track, I ran Cross country, I powerlifted, I played baseball,Softball, you name it I did it.
None of them are as hard as bodybuilder, or as expensive as bodybuilding.
If I can pay ATHLETES, to make appearances, and to use his image so can MD.
The owner Steve Blechman makes more money in a day then I make in a month.
I want everybody to know he is cheap so maybe he will loosen up and start paying people.Then like I said before I will publically apologise to Steve and thank him for paying athletes
I help alot of athletes...There are a alot of guys I helped some even turned pro.I sponsored Troy Alves, when he was an amateur and up to the first year he was a pro.I payed all his expenses, and payed him for his images, and to be at our booths.He did not have any help or sponsors.To this day true respects me to helping him out. At the time my company was half the size it was now.I have helped out at least 2 dozen local and National athletes with product ,all there expenses,pay them for pics and pay them for being at my booths.
My point is, if I am a growing company and I can people so can Steve Blechman.I could do the same he does, and say, why pay you, your image is on my site, you picture is on all my brochures.... that exposure.
At the end of the day, exposure doesn't pay your bills, it doesn't support your family.Money however does.
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Blockhead on November 22, 2009, 06:34:28 PM
Listen bodybuilding is the hardest sport in the world.I played semi- pro football as a nose guard I ran track, I ran Cross country, I powerlifted, I played baseball,Softball, you name it I did it.
None of them are as hard as bodybuilder, or as expensive as bodybuilding.
If I can pay ATHLETES, to make appearances, and to use his image so can MD.
The owner Steve Blechman makes more money in a day then I make in a month.
I want everybody to know he is cheap so maybe he will loosen up and start paying people.Then like I said before I will publically apologise to Steve and thank him for paying athletes
I help alot of athletes...There are a alot of guys I helped some even turned pro.I sponsored Troy Alves, when he was an amateur and up to the first year he was a pro.I payed all his expenses, and payed him for his images, and to be at our booths.He did not have any help or sponsors.To this day true respects me to helping him out. At the time my company was half the size it was now.I have helped out at least 2 dozen local and National athletes with product ,all there expenses,pay them for pics and pay them for being at my booths.
My point is, if I am a growing company and I can people so can Steve Blechman.I could do the same he does, and say, why pay you, your image is on my site, you picture is on all my brochures.... that exposure.
At the end of the day, exposure doesn't pay your bills, it doesn't support your family.Money however does.
We all get your point and we agree with you, John but you have to understand. Picture this...


 You have a huge front and backyard. You have little time to do landscaping so you decide to pay a local landscaping buisness to send out a few Mexicans to mow your lawn, trim some hedges and weed wack for you. $150/week is what it will cost you.

 Then you get a knock at your door and another landscaping crew says we'll do the same work for you but we'll do it for FREE. Just because.


 What would you do?


 Steve Gluteman is a closet-homo who has an infatuation with bodybuilders. Everybody knows that. He doesn't pay people because he doesn't have to. Not to talk shit about Burnekia but I am wouldn't be suprised if when he was contacted by Gluteman he told Gluteman before anything... "Oh, dank u Meesta Buttman. I do good job 4 u.. and u don' got to pay me nuting cuz it is honor to be in yer mahgahzine..."



 - Block!
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: uberman09 on November 22, 2009, 06:51:27 PM
Everything that's right about Canada is capitalist, everything that is wrong about Canada is socialist, with very little exception.

I wish politicians around here would get the fucking clue, but no - they call for more and more socialism.  ::)
north america is going the european way. First step is to import millions of third worlders in the main cities.
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: GetItOnNY on November 22, 2009, 06:53:42 PM
Block, you are 100% right....The line you said was funny about the way Roberts talks that hilarious. This is classic u don' got to pay me noting cuz it is honor to be in yer mahgahzine...", omg lmfao.
Md has been Roberts jocks about a photo shoot for quite some time now.After they saw that he was hard at his guest posing, it made there mouths water.
Robert is a freak that is beyond freaks.
Robert will sell MD a shi/#$ load of magazines.I white guy with 24 " arms 21" calves, and is bigger then Jay, and he isn't even a pro.This I know I seen Robert stand net to at least a dozen of them and he dwarfs them.
Block I told Robert if they don't have a check or money in there hand tell them no.I said Robert, if I am 25% the size of MD and I can pay you for your time, so should they .If MD was smart they would drop Lunch Trey Brewera aswell as Brandon Ray and pick up Robert.He is got 100000000 times more potential.
Roberts has only done 5 bodybuilding shows, and only been bodybuilding for 4 years and took top 5 at the USA and 2nd the first time he did Nationals.
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: uberman09 on November 22, 2009, 06:56:17 PM
No it isn't you moron.  BTW, business and people are two separate words

like you know anything about bodybuilding, business, or people hahahaha.

What a mental case.
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: che on November 22, 2009, 07:09:01 PM
Listen bodybuilding is the hardest sport in the world.

Hahhaaa  ::)

I've  competed in 5 bodybuilding  shows , two first place in my class ,one 2nd, one 3rd  and  a 7th place,
I boxed for 7 years  40-5-5
Bodybuilding is a joke compared to a real sport.
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Luolamies on November 22, 2009, 10:31:03 PM
The thing i find ridiculous about this whole thing is that some years ago MD was making huge noise about how they were one of the only mags to pay for the photoshoots and allways remembered to include "how FLEX never pays the athletes" and if more mags were more like them, this whole industry would be doing AWESOME! 
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Matt C on November 22, 2009, 11:28:06 PM
north america is going the european way. First step is to import millions of third worlders in the main cities.

Very true!
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Mars on November 23, 2009, 01:22:32 AM
we dont go under alone. we drag the american infidels with us in the ravine.
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Matt C on November 23, 2009, 12:54:03 PM
Listen I dont have Steve Blechman, but I didnt like what he did to Dave and John.Its was just wrong in every shape and form.
Shawn Ray, and Flex Wheeler is doing the same thing and they still have there jobs....Anyways Here is my point.
My athlete did a big spread in MD, and it was alot of pages.
Steve didnt pay the guy a dime!!!!
I was like WTF.
Steve has never had to struggle for money, not one second of his life.
He was given Twinlab.You got these poor athletes who dont make any money unless they get a contract.
Steve Charges something $10,000 per page per month to advertise in his magazine.Yet he puts these 5-10 page spreads on these athletes, and doesnt pay then a dime.Why not give the athlete atleast $500 or $1000 for his time.The athletes eats trains and works his ass off, and yu make money off of the athletes why not pay them?
Steve can I have free advertising in your magazine for free?
Hello no!!!! Bodybuilders, have alot of expenses, you got food, supplements,anabolics and everything else.
Bodybuilding is a very very expensive sport.Just eating costs $200 a week.
Steve Blechamn if you are going to charge supplement companies money to advertise in your magazine, then you should pay athletes for photo shoots.Steve $500 or even $1000 bucks is like $20 to you.
Your a friggin Multi-Millionaire, why not help a few guys out with some money.It is the right thing to do.You know it, I know, the athletes know it.

Why did your "athlete" agree to the photo shoot if he wasn't satisfied with the terms?
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: GetItOnNY on November 23, 2009, 05:01:59 PM
My athlete is not complaining ...He actually didn't say a word. FOR THE RECORD I am the one with the Problem not Robert.
I did however tell him if they want to have another photo shoot with them they should pay you.
I said Robert if they don't have a check in there hand or cash, just say no.
You work hard, you train hard, you should be paid for your efforts.
I also said to him,if my company can pay you and I am 25% the size of MD, then they can pay you.
The first photo, or photo shoot, is free, after that athletes should be paid.
Imagine walking in to Wal-Mart, or Smiths Food king, and spending $200-$250 per week on eating clean.
How far do you think you would get if you just walked out of the store,didn't pay for the food  and said, I got a 10 page spread in MD.So I have exposure.
Or when your mortgage payment comes.
Does your pics in MD pay your gas in your car, mortgage,car payment.Fu#$ no!!!!
Do you think the guy who sells you your anabolics will give you free gear because he saw your pics in MD?
fu#$# No!!!!!.
The free exposure is so overrated.I know alot of guys who did free photo shots and are still flat broke.
If your smart like Shawn Ray was you make people pay you for everything.
The sad thing about this whole post is Steve Blechman has more money then me and every pro bodybuilder combined.He has to be worth at least 20 -50 million, maybe more.
So $500, or even $2000 in like a $10 to the average person.
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Fury on November 23, 2009, 05:04:13 PM
My athlete is not complaining ...He actually didn't say a word. FOR THE RECORD I am the one with the Problem not Robert.
I did however tell him if they want to have another photo shoot with them they should pay you.
I said Robert if they don't have a check in there hand or cash, just say no.
You work hard, you train hard, you should be paid for your efforts.
I also said to him,if my company can pay you and I am 25% the size of MD, then they can pay you.
The first photo, or photo shoot, is free, after that athletes should be paid.
Imagine walking in to Wal-Mart, or Smiths Food king, and spending $200-$250 per week on eating clean.
How far do you think you would get if you just walked out of the store,didn't pay for the food  and said, I got a 10 page spread in MD.So I have exposure.
Or when your mortgage payment comes.
Does your pics in MD pay your gas in your car, mortgage,car payment.Fu#$ no!!!!
Do you think the guy who sells you your anabolics will give you free gear because he saw your pics in MD?
fu#$# No!!!!!.
The free exposure is so overrated.I know alot of guys who did free photo shots and are still flat broke.
If your smart like Shawn Ray was you make people pay you for everything.
The sad thing about this whole post is Steve Blechman has more money then me and every pro bodybuilder combined.He has to be worth at least 20 -50 million, maybe more.
So $500, or even $2000 in like a $10 to the average person.

I think Blechman is a douche but does it matter how much money Blechman has? This is business. He's not going to lose money or make a shitty deal just because he has a big bank account. He's in it to make more money.
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: lift 456 on November 23, 2009, 05:20:58 PM
My athlete is not complaining ...He actually didn't say a word. FOR THE RECORD I am the one with the Problem not Robert.


still, you're hurting him in a major way.  John, you're hurting Robert's name and chances for a deal by second-guessing one of the biggest men in BBing (blechman) like this.

it's very disrespectful, and yes, your words do reflect upon Robert.  You say you prepped him.  Prep guys can't badtalk a guy like Blechman and not expect it to hurt their guys. 

Shut up already, please.
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: mwbbuilder on November 23, 2009, 05:27:39 PM
The sad thing about this whole post is Steve Blechman has more money then me and every pro bodybuilder combined.He has to be worth at least 20 -50 million, maybe more.

And your company is 25% of of MD?

STFU and pay Robert what he needs and quit asking Blechman to do it. You have plenty by your own admission. You're just as cheap as Blechman. If I was Robert, I would make you pay up or quit using my name all over the place.

That would be smart of Robert.

Quit bitching! You are making a fool out of yourself.
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: nicky.smth on November 23, 2009, 05:34:13 PM
And your company is 25% of of MD?

STFU and pay Robert what he needs and quit asking Blechman to do it. You have plenty by your own admission. You're just as cheap as Blechman. If I was Robert, I would make you pay up or quit using my name all over the place.

That would be smart of Robert.

Quit bitching! You are making a fool out of yourself.

he means 0.00025% the size of MD
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: honest on November 23, 2009, 05:35:44 PM
My athlete is not complaining ...He actually didn't say a word. FOR THE RECORD I am the one with the Problem not Robert.
I did however tell him if they want to have another photo shoot with them they should pay you.
I said Robert if they don't have a check in there hand or cash, just say no.
You work hard, you train hard, you should be paid for your efforts.
I also said to him,if my company can pay you and I am 25% the size of MD, then they can pay you.
The first photo, or photo shoot, is free, after that athletes should be paid.
Imagine walking in to Wal-Mart, or Smiths Food king, and spending $200-$250 per week on eating clean.
How far do you think you would get if you just walked out of the store,didn't pay for the food  and said, I got a 10 page spread in MD.So I have exposure.
Or when your mortgage payment comes.






Blechman is a buisnessman, plenty of people yourself included dropped out of the sport as it isnt a real professional sport. Guys like your athlete, to the people reading those mags are a dime a dozen and all of them are attention seeking ego maniacs in most cases, in so many cases that a whole industry of them can be exploited in such a way by schmoes like Blechman as they will pose for nothing. Seriously change your name to getoverit, its bodybuilding its always been that way and always will be, its a minority sport with very little following and anyone doing it pursuing wealth or even doing it as a job has in 99 percent of the time made a bad decision, bodybuilding should be most peoples hobby not their life

 
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: GetItOnNY on November 23, 2009, 09:47:31 PM
The problem with bodybuilding is there is only a few top guys making money...Thats why its a sports that is going to be dead soon.They cancelled the Iron Man pro, because they didn't sell enough tickets.
At least my company does what ever we can to help athletes.We pay them to travel, we pay them to appear, we pay them if you use them in an brochure.
Steve needs to pay people for photo shoots, and for photos.
Plus you got companies like Optimum Nutrition who only endorses George Farah and a couple of other people.You got Bsn who only Sponsors a Trey, Brandon and Ronnie.VPX, only endorses Brandon Ray, and 2 other people.
These big companies, can endorse more athletes, but they don't.
I give props to Muscle-Tech, because they sponsor alot of pro bodybuilders.If it wasn't for them half of the pro bodybuilders wouldn't be getting anything.
I also think that if you win Nationals or the USA, the overall winner should win $25,000.
This way it would bring in more guys, and the guy who wins and take that money and start a career.
Or the guy who wins gets a $100,000 contract with a big company like VPX OR BSN.For one year.
My point is the reason bodybuilding, isn't doing well is not many companies are endorsing athletes, so guys dont want to be pro bodybuilders.Unless you win the Mr Olympia your lucky to get $1000 if you do a pro show, and place out of the top 5.
If you win  the smaller pro shows the winer gets as little as $10,000.
Most guys spend more then that on food and drugs in 12 weeks in they are a good pro
In the NFL even a guy who sits on the Bench makes I think a minimum of $450,000 a year.
Mr Olympia, I think is only $100,000.
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: WillGrant on November 23, 2009, 10:24:44 PM
Post up his off season and on season drug stack
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: just_a_pilgrim on November 24, 2009, 01:18:25 AM
The problem with bodybuilding is there is only a few top guys making money...Thats why its a sports that is going to be dead soon.They cancelled the Iron Man pro, because they didn't sell enough tickets.
At least my company does what ever we can to help athletes.We pay them to travel, we pay them to appear, we pay them if you use them in an brochure.
Steve needs to pay people for photo shoots, and for photos.
Plus you got companies like Optimum Nutrition who only endorses George Farah and a couple of other people.You got Bsn who only Sponsors a Trey, Brandon and Ronnie.VPX, only endorses Brandon Ray, and 2 other people.
These big companies, can endorse more athletes, but they don't.
I give props to Muscle-Tech, because they sponsor alot of pro bodybuilders.If it wasn't for them half of the pro bodybuilders wouldn't be getting anything.
I also think that if you win Nationals or the USA, the overall winner should win $25,000.
This way it would bring in more guys, and the guy who wins and take that money and start a career.
Or the guy who wins gets a $100,000 contract with a big company like VPX OR BSN.For one year.
My point is the reason bodybuilding, isn't doing well is not many companies are endorsing athletes, so guys dont want to be pro bodybuilders.Unless you win the Mr Olympia your lucky to get $1000 if you do a pro show, and place out of the top 5.
If you win  the smaller pro shows the winer gets as little as $10,000.
Most guys spend more then that on food and drugs in 12 weeks in they are a good pro
In the NFL even a guy who sits on the Bench makes I think a minimum of $450,000 a year.
Mr Olympia, I think is only $100,000.


You have to be fucking delusional.

Do you not think, that a company like VPX would sponsor more bodybuilders if they thought it would make them more money.

If you are making so much money, YOU sponsor more bodybuilders, which in turn will get your supplements on the map even more, and you should make more money than you are now. I mean, you make it out to be so easy.



Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Wiggs on November 24, 2009, 01:59:25 AM
John you should get me in contest shape...I'm serious....PM me.
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Quickerblade on November 24, 2009, 02:52:44 AM
I dont know or care who Steve Blechman is but he sounds like a straight pimp, good for him, bodybuilders are fucken losers, and there fucken dumb too, i know one of lebrons sponosors is worth more then jay's 10 sponsors, now thats a real athlete, not a dumb fuck who does bicep curls

(http://www.skullcandy.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/lebron-james-dimemag-march-2009.jpg)
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/kaczalas/SLbEl7aNedI/AAAAAAAA6nw/89RUY5Khc6c/s800/lbj_misc_2008_08_kicks-cover-new.jpg)
(http://fordhamsportsnet.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/lebron-james-cover1.jpg)
(http://gossiponthis.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/lebron-gisele.jpg)
(http://cm1.theinsider.com/media/0/6/16/Si-cover_lebron_james_2002.0.0.0x0.442x575.jpeg)
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: WillGrant on November 24, 2009, 03:02:41 AM
I dont know or care who Steve Blechman is but he sounds like a straight pimp, good for him, bodybuilders are fucken losers, and there fucken dumb too, i know one of lebrons sponosors is worth more then jay's 10 sponsors, now thats a real athlete, not a dumb fuck who does bicep curls


You ride the spin bike with no seat today QB?  ;D
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Quickerblade on November 24, 2009, 03:03:52 AM
You ride the spin bike with no seat today QB?  ;D
never did the spin bike , should i?
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: webcake on November 24, 2009, 03:04:06 AM
Well last time i checked Jay is a Huge Aryan bastard with muscles. That is truly priceless.
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: WillGrant on November 24, 2009, 03:05:53 AM
never did the spin bike , should i?
Sorry you just acting like a spin bunny wearing a pink lycra body suit , PMS ?
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Quickerblade on November 24, 2009, 03:06:49 AM
Sorry you just acting like a spin bunny wearing a pink lycra body suit , PMS ?

hahahahaha
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: LatsMcGee on November 24, 2009, 03:16:56 AM
The problem with Steve Blechman is that he enjoys sucking cock. 
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: io856 on November 24, 2009, 03:30:09 AM
I dont know or care who Steve Blechman is but he sounds like a straight pimp, good for him, bodybuilders are fucken losers, and there fucken dumb too, i know one of lebrons sponosors is worth more then jay's 10 sponsors, now thats a real athlete, not a dumb fuck who does bicep curls

(http://www.skullcandy.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/lebron-james-dimemag-march-2009.jpg)
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/kaczalas/SLbEl7aNedI/AAAAAAAA6nw/89RUY5Khc6c/s800/lbj_misc_2008_08_kicks-cover-new.jpg)
(http://fordhamsportsnet.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/lebron-james-cover1.jpg)
(http://gossiponthis.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/lebron-gisele.jpg)
(http://cm1.theinsider.com/media/0/6/16/Si-cover_lebron_james_2002.0.0.0x0.442x575.jpeg)
YOU DONT BELONG HERE ASSHOLE
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on November 24, 2009, 07:32:31 AM
My athlete is not complaining ...He actually didn't say a word. FOR THE RECORD I am the one with the Problem not Robert.
I did however tell him if they want to have another photo shoot with them they should pay you.
I said Robert if they don't have a check in there hand or cash, just say no.
You work hard, you train hard, you should be paid for your efforts.
I also said to him,if my company can pay you and I am 25% the size of MD, then they can pay you.
The first photo, or photo shoot, is free, after that athletes should be paid.
Imagine walking in to Wal-Mart, or Smiths Food king, and spending $200-$250 per week on eating clean.
How far do you think you would get if you just walked out of the store,didn't pay for the food  and said, I got a 10 page spread in MD.So I have exposure.
Or when your mortgage payment comes.
Does your pics in MD pay your gas in your car, mortgage,car payment.Fu#$ no!!!!
Do you think the guy who sells you your anabolics will give you free gear because he saw your pics in MD?
fu#$# No!!!!!.
The free exposure is so overrated.I know alot of guys who did free photo shots and are still flat broke.
If your smart like Shawn Ray was you make people pay you for everything.
The sad thing about this whole post is Steve Blechman has more money then me and every pro bodybuilder combined.He has to be worth at least 20 -50 million, maybe more.
So $500, or even $2000 in like a $10 to the average person.


Joe, everyone agrees with you but we're all trying to tell you that Robert agreed to do the shoot on his own accord and that he should make the decision on his career choices and speak for himself.  Its not your place to speak on his behalf and ultimately you're hurting his changes to make some money.

He's his own man, he's not your property, you're not his manager.  Robert Burnekia is big enough errr massively huge enough to make his own decisions in life and you should be happy for him but stay in the far far background.  You don't see Oscar or Hany doing this and neither should you
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Matt C on November 24, 2009, 11:01:42 AM
The problem with bodybuilding is there is only a few top guys making money...Thats why its a sports that is going to be dead soon.They cancelled the Iron Man pro, because they didn't sell enough tickets.
At least my company does what ever we can to help athletes.We pay them to travel, we pay them to appear, we pay them if you use them in an brochure.
Steve needs to pay people for photo shoots, and for photos.
Plus you got companies like Optimum Nutrition who only endorses George Farah and a couple of other people.You got Bsn who only Sponsors a Trey, Brandon and Ronnie.VPX, only endorses Brandon Ray, and 2 other people.
These big companies, can endorse more athletes, but they don't.
I give props to Muscle-Tech, because they sponsor alot of pro bodybuilders.If it wasn't for them half of the pro bodybuilders wouldn't be getting anything.
I also think that if you win Nationals or the USA, the overall winner should win $25,000.
This way it would bring in more guys, and the guy who wins and take that money and start a career.
Or the guy who wins gets a $100,000 contract with a big company like VPX OR BSN.For one year.
My point is the reason bodybuilding, isn't doing well is not many companies are endorsing athletes, so guys dont want to be pro bodybuilders.Unless you win the Mr Olympia your lucky to get $1000 if you do a pro show, and place out of the top 5.
If you win  the smaller pro shows the winer gets as little as $10,000.
Most guys spend more then that on food and drugs in 12 weeks in they are a good pro
In the NFL even a guy who sits on the Bench makes I think a minimum of $450,000 a year.
Mr Olympia, I think is only $100,000.


The difference is that bodybuilders generate very little money.  What benefit is there to pay a pro a $100,000 contract for a pro card win when he only generates the company $50,000?  It is no different than throwing money in the garbage.

As for football players making a minimum of $450,000, that is a steal for a team owner who makes $1 million that year as a result of having that player on his team.

Do you see the difference?
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: 240 is Back on November 24, 2009, 11:04:54 AM
it is what it is.

If it was any different, the numbers would quickly jump right up to meet the worth of these guys' contributions.

There is no monopoly in BBing.
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Steve Namat on November 24, 2009, 11:07:44 AM
The difference is that bodybuilders generate very little money.  What benefit is there to pay a pro a $100,000 contract for a pro card win when he only generates the company $50,000?  It is no different than throwing money in the garbage.

As for football players making a minimum of $450,000, that is a steal for a team owner who makes $1 million that year as a result of having that player on his team.

Do you see the difference?
Trey doesn't deserve the sponsorship...but anyway do you think that Brewer only generates the BSN $50,000 per year...?  ::)
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: christinafitness on November 24, 2009, 11:11:09 AM
There are a lot of illusions in bodybuilding.
It's probably wrong to blame Blechman for not paying more.
All the magazines suffer and don't make that much money anymore.
It's the economy and the fact that the internet replaces the mags.
Few photographers actually pay and fewer pay well.
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on November 24, 2009, 11:16:05 AM
Trey doesn't deserve the sponsorship...but anyway do you think that Brewer only generates the BSN $50,000 per year...?  ::)


You have no business criticizing Trey Brewer's sponsorship with BSN or MD.  He's obviously doing something right like maybe not talking shit about other athletes in the industry like you're doing.

And you wonder why you don't have a contract for???  You need to realize that an IFBB pro card won't get you very far.  If you start conducting yourself in a more professional manner then your phone might ring more often
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Matt C on November 24, 2009, 11:18:15 AM
Trey doesn't deserve the sponsorship...but anyway do you think that Brewer only generates the BSN $50,000 per year...?  ::)

If Trey is generating BSN $500,0000 then another company like MuscleTech would come along and offer him an even larger contract so that they could make that money instead.

In the free market with free competition, bodybuilders will be paid as much as the market will allow, it's the same as any other industry.  It's just that bodybuilding and bodybuilders generate next to nothing in terms of revenue.  Sorry to break it to you.
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: mwbbuilder on November 24, 2009, 11:20:03 AM
Trey doesn't deserve the sponsorship...but anyway do you think that Brewer only generates the BSN $50,000 per year...?  ::)

That's why bodybuilders are poor.

There's no such thing as "deserve."

You get what you can get and you don't get what you can't get. It's that simple.

What do you think this is? Grade school?
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Matt C on November 24, 2009, 12:08:02 PM
That's why bodybuilders are poor.

There's no such thing as "deserve."

You get what you can get and you don't get what you can't get. It's that simple.

What do you think this is? Grade school?

I don't get the mentality of some people, not just Steve or GetItOnNY but a lot of people who think that they are owed a living for some reason.

Why would Steve pay bodybuilders for photoshoots when they are willing to do it for free?  If a construction company came agreed to an offer of receiving $0 payment for renovating your house, why would you pay them?
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: kiwiol on November 24, 2009, 12:19:05 PM

Joe, everyone agrees with you but we're all trying to tell you that Robert agreed to do the shoot on his own accord and that he should make the decision on his career choices and speak for himself.  Its not your place to speak on his behalf and ultimately you're hurting his changes to make some money.

He's his own man, he's not your property, you're not his manager.  Robert Burnekia is big enough errr massively huge enough to make his own decisions in life and you should be happy for him but stay in the far far background.  You don't see Oscar or Hany doing this and neither should you

If Trey is generating BSN $500,0000 then another company like MuscleTech would come along and offer him an even larger contract so that they could make that money instead.

In the free market with free competition, bodybuilders will be paid as much as the market will allow, it's the same as any other industry.  It's just that bodybuilding and bodybuilders generate next to nothing in terms of revenue.  Sorry to break it to you.

On the money.
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: lax on November 24, 2009, 12:52:54 PM
That's why bodybuilders are poor.

There's no such thing as "deserve."

You get what you can get and you don't get what you can't get. It's that simple.

What do you think this is? Grade school?

one of the smartest statements I have ever seen on here regarding to 'deserve'

correct
get that enablement/deserve mentality out of the head
you deserve to wake up each day
that is about it
after that
it is all up to you as an individual to get what you can out of the world
Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: Quickerblade on November 24, 2009, 12:53:28 PM
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Title: Re: Steve Blechman is cheap !!
Post by: BayGBM on November 24, 2009, 01:09:43 PM
I don't get the mentality of some people, not just Steve or GetItOnNY but a lot of people who think that they are owed a living for some reason.

Why would Steve pay bodybuilders for photoshoots when they are willing to do it for free?  If a construction company came agreed to an offer of receiving $0 payment for renovating your house, why would you pay them?

QFT