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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: ahh.. fk on November 21, 2009, 02:49:18 PM
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any of you guys play? I have played a little but get obsessive especially with heads up games. Quick and dirty.
What do you guys like? sng's? cash games? what kind of limits do you play. I was small limit until I donked off playing 50$ heads up.
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Some advice for ya...
1. STUDY STUDY STUDY poker and don't play for thrills otherwise you WILL lose money
2. Poker is all about long term profits, neglect how you're doing at the moment.. only statistics will reveal your skill.
3. Don't play above your bankroll.
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any of you guys play? I have played a little but get obsessive especially with heads up games. Quick and dirty.
What do you guys like? sng's? cash games? what kind of limits do you play. I was small limit until I donked off playing 50$ heads up.
who the fuck are you?
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I'm ahh...fk who the fuck are you?
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love to play... I am pretty much a break even player though in the long run. even to reach that level I have had to play countless hands.. it is definitely an art form.
I tend to tilt easily when taking a bad beat, but it is getting better as time goes on... it is just part of the experience.
I mainly play cash games, but will occasionally play heads up. I don't usually fare too well in tournaments.
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I play for a living
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I used to play blackjack way too much about 10 years ago. Was up a couple thousand at times but never cashed out and eventually lost it all.
So I am wondering how many people actually can say they cash out a winner and just don't let their winnings go down to zero over time.
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I play for a living
what games are your bread and butter?
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Be careful...online poker is RIGGED bigtime.
I've played over 1000 sng's, in the past 6 years. They like to keep you playing, so the quicker games move, the more they take on the total rake.
I don't doubt there are a high percentage of poker bots playing for the site, as well.
None of this is regulated by the government, so it's extremely easy to manipulate the profits.
Rigging, is most obvious when you have the chip lead, then get thrown AA, AK, QQ, etc within 10 hands. You hit almost every flop, etc.
Why would they give you money? Much like a ponze scheme, keep the money circulating, to keep you playing, and the rake continuous.
If you look up pokerstars rigged on google, you'll find forum that go into detail on how lopsided the site it. I'm on Full Tilt now, and though there are less bad beats, the rigging is very obvious.
However, through tons of games, I'm a few hundred ahead...that's playing low limit sngs. To put any real money online, you'd have to be very foolish.
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Be careful...online poker is RIGGED bigtime.
I've played over 1000 sng's, in the past 6 years. They like to keep you playing, so the quicker games move, the more they take on the total rake.
I don't doubt there are a high percentage of poker bots playing for the site, as well.
None of this is regulated by the government, so it's extremely easy to manipulate the profits.
Rigging, is most obvious when you have the chip lead, then get thrown AA, AK, QQ, etc within 10 hands. You hit almost every flop, etc.
Why would they give you money? Much like a ponze scheme, keep the money circulating, to keep you playing, and the rake continuous.
If you look up pokerstars rigged on google, you'll find forum that go into detail on how lopsided the site it. I'm on Full Tilt now, and though there are less bad beats, the rigging is very obvious.
However, through tons of games, I'm a few hundred ahead...that's playing low limit sngs. To put any real money online, you'd have to be very foolish.
I definitely feel this frame of mind after taking a serious beat or two... and I play on full tilt as well. however, have you ever played on pokerstars? for fucks sake, someone is holding pocket aces or kings every 10-15 hands, its insane.
for lack of a real world venue I play online... but I do agree that certain circumstances of hands that come up are a little suspect if you know the odds of those occurrences happening.
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I definitely feel this frame of mind after taking a serious beat or two... and I play on full tilt as well. however, have you ever played on pokerstars? for fucks sake, someone is holding pocket aces or kings every 10-15 hands, its insane.
for lack of a real world venue I play online... but I do agree that certain circumstances of hands that come up are a little suspect if you know the odds of those occurrences happening.
Just played on Full Tilt.
I was chip leader.
3 of 5 hands I was in.
Me: JQ Opp: AA, Flop: A K 10...
Me: A5 suited Opp:AK Opp: QQ, I have the nut flush.
I forget the other one.
Point being, I made bad calls, was dominated, somehow had the nuts no matter how poor my shove was.
All the sites are rigged...mark my words. In less than a decade, it will all come out...some fools will say, "I can't believe they would do that?"
Yeah, like Enron executives....never underestimate greed. Even though sites make a bunch, it's never enough for the greedy.
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I have had that thought before. When you are up the good hand just keep on coming. If you win one pot the next hand is often a winner. Even if it was crap and you mucked it , it would have nailed the flop. I never really played around based on a rigged game but the idea come to mind many times and I also have played thousands of hands.
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what games are your bread and butter?
I play tournaments only--all the time. My specialty game is Pot Limit Omaha and PLO hilo---I play NLHE due to the obvious quantity of games. I never ever ever play cash games.
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Be careful...online poker is RIGGED bigtime.
I've played over 1000 sng's, in the past 6 years. They like to keep you playing, so the quicker games move, the more they take on the total rake.
I don't doubt there are a high percentage of poker bots playing for the site, as well.
None of this is regulated by the government, so it's extremely easy to manipulate the profits.
Rigging, is most obvious when you have the chip lead, then get thrown AA, AK, QQ, etc within 10 hands. You hit almost every flop, etc.
Why would they give you money? Much like a ponze scheme, keep the money circulating, to keep you playing, and the rake continuous.
If you look up pokerstars rigged on google, you'll find forum that go into detail on how lopsided the site it. I'm on Full Tilt now, and though there are less bad beats, the rigging is very obvious.
However, through tons of games, I'm a few hundred ahead...that's playing low limit sngs. To put any real money online, you'd have to be very foolish.
QFT
My biggest win was about $15,000 and I didn't take the money and within a week, I was $9000 in the hole. It was a bloodbath. I played my last cash game on Full Tilt and for the year, I was up $2200. That's like making $2.50/hour. I've only played free games since.
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Be careful...online poker is RIGGED bigtime.
I've played over 1000 sng's, in the past 6 years. They like to keep you playing, so the quicker games move, the more they take on the total rake.
I don't doubt there are a high percentage of poker bots playing for the site, as well.
None of this is regulated by the government, so it's extremely easy to manipulate the profits.
Rigging, is most obvious when you have the chip lead, then get thrown AA, AK, QQ, etc within 10 hands. You hit almost every flop, etc.
Why would they give you money? Much like a ponze scheme, keep the money circulating, to keep you playing, and the rake continuous.
If you look up pokerstars rigged on google, you'll find forum that go into detail on how lopsided the site it. I'm on Full Tilt now, and though there are less bad beats, the rigging is very obvious.
However, through tons of games, I'm a few hundred ahead...that's playing low limit sngs. To put any real money online, you'd have to be very foolish.
Hahahahahahahahaaaaaaa another "I take bad beats so therefore the site is rigged" ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Hahahahahahahahaaaaaaa another "I take bad beats so therefore the site is rigged" ::) ::) ::) ::)
agreed
badbeats happen,...move along, accept them and dont bitch about them.
When someone tells me a bad beat story I automatically tell them to shut up before they get 10 words in. No one wants to hear
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agreed
badbeats happen,...move along, accept them and dont bitch about them.
When someone tells me a bad beat story I automatically tell them to shut up before they get 10 words in. No one wants to hear
Not to do exactly that but the "bad beats" that got to me the most is when you have an ace high full house and someone gets a four of a kind on you. Always brought me in to meltdown mode. ;D
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yes its real money
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yes its real money
(http://i49.tinypic.com/n624bk.jpg)
Back in the day I found great joy in trolling the chat.
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Be careful...online poker is RIGGED bigtime.
I've played over 1000 sng's, in the past 6 years. They like to keep you playing, so the quicker games move, the more they take on the total rake.
I don't doubt there are a high percentage of poker bots playing for the site, as well.
None of this is regulated by the government, so it's extremely easy to manipulate the profits.
Rigging, is most obvious when you have the chip lead, then get thrown AA, AK, QQ, etc within 10 hands. You hit almost every flop, etc.
Why would they give you money? Much like a ponze scheme, keep the money circulating, to keep you playing, and the rake continuous.
If you look up pokerstars rigged on google, you'll find forum that go into detail on how lopsided the site it. I'm on Full Tilt now, and though there are less bad beats, the rigging is very obvious.
However, through tons of games, I'm a few hundred ahead...that's playing low limit sngs. To put any real money online, you'd have to be very foolish.
Oh for the love of God.
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I play for a living
Show a PT graph or GTFO. Name for Sharkscope also pls.
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Show a PT graph or GTFO. Name for Sharkscope also pls.
(http://i46.tinypic.com/rk7qf8.jpg)
no you cannot have my entire name so you can berate me at the tables---but if you figure it out and mention getbig at the table and who you are I will respond
also---GTFO yourself micro play money loser
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p.s. its never been a real big secret on this site for a hundred years that I play online poker for a living
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Hahahahahahahahaaaaaaa another "I take bad beats so therefore the site is rigged" ::) ::) ::) ::)
Did you even read my post? How is it bitching about bad beats, when I see rigging and I'm chip leader and hit every flop.
Bad beats happen all the time in poker. Catching endless good cards when you're chip leader, doesn't really happen in live play.
If you're up a few hundred dollars and play $5 sngs, how is that griping about a loss?
Oh for the love of God.
I'll assume you don't play online poker.
Great argument.
"There's no way online poker could be rigged."
-Donkey584
haha, Wake up idiots.
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Did you even read my post? How is it bitching about bad beats, when I see rigging and I'm chip leader and hit every flop.
Bad beats happen all the time in poker. Catching endless good cards when you're chip leader, doesn't really happen in live play.
I'll assume you don't play online poker.
Getbig, where everyone is an "expert" on things they never do, and know nothing about.
Best site on the web.
Dude don't get me started on this. First off, you see WAY more hands when you play online and therefore more likely % wise to stumble upon weird situations/beats/rolls. Second, what's in it for the poker site to rig the game? They'll get busted pretty quickly when card statistics start to deviate and their business is in the toilet. They'll get just as much rake without rigging.
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Dude don't get me started on this. First off, you see WAY more hands when you play online and therefore more likely % wise to stumble upon weird situations/beats/rolls. Second, what's in it for the poker site to rig the game? They'll get busted pretty quickly when card statistics start to deviate and their business is in the toilet. They'll get just as much rake without rigging.
I know all the arguments. I understand with more hands, you see more bad beats. I realize, AA vs 78 suited, isn't a HUGE advantage. I'm not complaining about a bad beat, this would be foolish.
Rigging is most apparent when I'm winning. The amount of flops hit, hole cards, etc, are not like live play...period. I could list numerous examples, but don't write down every time something goofy happens online.
Why would a poker site rig games? Simple, to keep you playing.
Wasn't there already a poker site that was taken down because of foul play?
To ask "why" a site would cheat to make more money, is plainly foolish. Millionaires cheat all the time, to make more money, why is this different?
I'm never surprised at how aloof most in our country are. "There's no way they'd do that!" haha, wake up fools.
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Something off a poker forum. I didn't even look at this aspect:
While i firmly believe ps to be rigged after playing 500,000+ hands on their site there is no need to expand on what so many others have already pointed out.There are an excessive amount of mathematically improbable beats on that site. Period.What does surprise me is the arguments from the people who feel its not rigged.Saying things like "why would they risk getting caught they already make enough money" .I find this argument comical.ITS NEVER ENOUGH.That is the most absurd defense of a position as i have ever heard.When have you ever known any corrupt buisiness to not try to bleed every possible nickle from what ever scam they are running?Was it enough for enron?Was it enough for Madoff?Was it enough for any of the hundreds of corrupt wall street execs?OF COURSE NOT.
The other point everyone seems to be overlooking is how exactly ps makes their money.Yes they make money from the rake which everyone seems to believe is their main source of profit.Its not.The money contained in their players accounts is the big money maker for them.Do you believe they take your deposit and put it in a shoebox waiting until you request a cashout?OF COURSE NOT.That money(in the hundreds of millions,if not billions)is put into various interest bearing accounts and other investments that bring them MUCH more revinue than rake.Im shocked no one has posted anything about this angle yet.Hopefully someone with better knowledge of world economics than me(which is not much) can elaborate more on what type of things a corporation with that kind of liquid capitol might do with said funds.My guess is it would dwarf annually what they bring in from rake.
So is it in their best interests to have players cashing out more frequently than they are depositing?OF COURSE NOT.Dont you think they would want to keep the cashouts to a minimum?How to do this?Maybe have their rng even out the winning players as to minimize cashouts,thereby keeping their bottom line(the money in players accounts)more stable.
Think of them almost like an insurance company,with deposits being premiums and cashouts being a policy payout.Have you ever known an insurance company who didnt do everything in their power to not have to pay off a policy? I havent.Its a shame because i feel stars interface and game selection are by far the best online but i will never again use the site.
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Second, what's in it for the poker site to rig the game?
Not much for the owners, but, a programmer might tip off his friends.
Something similar happened in horseracing a few years ago. A programmer rigged things so his friend was able to get a bet in on a pick 6 after the fifth of the six races had already been run.
I think what Croatch is referring to is the Ultimate Bet "superusers" who figured out a way to see their opponents hole cards.
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The other point everyone seems to be overlooking is how exactly ps makes their money.Yes they make money from the rake which everyone seems to believe is their main source of profit.Its not.The money contained in their players accounts is the big money maker for them.Do you believe they take your deposit and put it in a shoebox waiting until you request a cashout?OF COURSE NOT.That money(in the hundreds of millions,if not billions)is put into various interest bearing accounts and other investments that bring them MUCH more revinue than rake.Im shocked no one has posted anything about this angle yet.Hopefully someone with better knowledge of world economics than me(which is not much) can elaborate more on what type of things a corporation with that kind of liquid capitol might do with said funds.My guess is it would dwarf annually what they bring in from rake.
Online brokers do this, as well. They use your cash to lend to others and your stocks to lend to short sellers.
The site probably put the money in t-bills. It would be crazy to put it in something where the principle is at risk.
As someone else said, you have to be nuts to leave alot of money in a poker site. If one goes bust for some reason, you're effed.
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Not much for the owners, but, a programmer might tip off his friends.
Something similar happened in horseracing a few years ago. A programmer rigged things so his friend was able to get a bet in on a pick 6 after the fifth of the six races had already been run.
I think what Croatch is referring to is the Ultimate Bet "superusers" who figured out a way to see their opponents hole cards.
and that all traced to Russ Hamilton, the owner of Ultimate Bet at the time.
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and that all traced to Russ Hamilton, the owner of Ultimate Bet at the time.
That's just being stupid and greedy. You have a business that makes money 24/7 and it's still not enough.
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That's just being stupid and greedy. You have a business that makes money 24/7 and it's still not enough.
Very true. People do it all the time though. Corporate America, the government, etc.
People will lie, steal, to put another dollar in their pocket...welcome to humanity..haha
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It doesn't even have to be rigged for you to get cheated. I've seen people playing several seats on the same table. The odds are stacked against the sucker honest players.