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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Blockhead on November 22, 2009, 11:13:01 AM
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To those of you not familiar with this cowboy let me introduce to you all Shelby Starnes.
Shelby can be seen posting the SAME threads about his greatness and wisdom as he in another 'guru for hire' at the following boards:
musculardevelopment.com
rxmuscle.com
intensemuscle.com
bodybuilding.com
probodybuilding.com
musclemayhem.com
Day after day, hour after hour he will cut and past the same questions/answers about him and his ability to tell you to "lower your carbs down to 25g with Meal-1, Meal-2 and Post-Workout" on each and every board. The split second he feels he is being challenged he immediately runs to the closest moderator and pleads his case for the question to be removed.
Over at Rx he was SPAMMING himself talking about how he went from a welterweight to a light-heavyweight with the same crisp conditioning simply by upping his calories. Nothing more. I sweated him asking him if he thought we were all fools. He quit posting there until I was banned. Again.
Asked POINT BLANK why he never posts on Getbig.com when Getbig has the most traffic and most GUESTS at any given time than all other boards combined his reply was...
" Getbig? Never heard of that site. Are they respectful over there? "
Here he is. THE Shelby Starnes. Discuss!
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Those glasses + a guy named Shelby = fag got.
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Those glasses + a guy named Shelby = fag got.
When asked how a guy can move up 2 weight-glasses..err, classes and still keep that conditioning simply by increasing his carbs he tried selling me that " cochamine and a little green tea " in the morning keeps him from gaining fat.
With obvious site injection marks and weird lumps & bumps this guy is as delusional as the day is long. ::)
- Block!
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If you are a BB and never heard of Getbig shame on you.
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Isn't he a tropopin trainer under Justin? Take it up with your good buddy Justin, Block. ;) :D
Since he uses the tropopin principles you're calling Justin a moron too in effect.
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When asked how a guy can move up 2 weight-glasses..err, classes and still keep that conditioning simply by increasing his carbs he tried selling me that " cochamine and a little green tea " in the morning keeps him from gaining fat.
With obvious site injection marks and weird lumps & bumps this guy is as delusional as the day is long. ::)
- Block!
Maybe he has suffered brain damage from his head smackin' against the headboard as his trainee, Rico, give him some protein site injections, Block....
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Shelby...
Isn't that an actress?
Shelby Stevens? 8)
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Shit genetics, good quad sweep.
weird structure overall
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Isn't he a tropopin trainer under Justin? Take it up with your good buddy Justin, Block. ;) :D
Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! He isn't UNDER Justin anymore... let us all just get that one straight up in this piece!
When I cornered Shelby and asked him how a TROPONIN Disciple can hire and work with Dave Palumbo for an entire year his reply was...
" What difference does it make? I own Troponin Nutrition. "
Turns out there is some truth to that. After a few calls and a few texts to a few motherfkers it turns out he bought into the company a while back and has a large piece of it.
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I usually try not to speak ill of people, but have you seen his log over at www.elitefts.com ?
Awful, spam filled thing. Doesn't even fake it a bit.
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Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! He isn't UNDER Justin anymore... let us all just get that one straight up in this piece!
When I cornered Shelby and asked him how a TROPONIN Disciple can hire and work with Dave Palumbo for an entire year his reply was...
" What difference does it make? I own Troponin Nutrition. "
Turns out there is some truth to that. After a few calls and a few texts to a few motherfkers it turns out he bought into the company a while back and has a large piece of it.
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But he does use the "fantastic" tropopin carb cycling type of diets, does he not?
Who exactly hired Palumbo? Shelby? He doesn't do his own diets?
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I usually try not to speak ill of people, but have you seen his log over at www.elitefts.com ?
Awful, spam filled thing. Doesn't even fake it a bit.
Yoiu gotta be fcuking kidding me.
What's the name of his log?
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Yoiu gotta be fcuking kidding me.
What's the name of his log?
Wild guess: it's under his name.
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I usually try not to speak ill of people, but have you seen his log over at www.elitefts.com ?
Awful, spam filled thing. Doesn't even fake it a bit.
No he doesn't. The weirdest thing about it all is that he personally knows me and knows I'm not an idiot and he doesn't even take a small break to attempt to level with me. Cochamine? Green Tea extract? Who the fk is he kidding?
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I usually try not to speak ill of people, but have you seen his log over at www.elitefts.com ?
Awful, spam filled thing. Doesn't even fake it a bit.
WTF, I took a look at it. And saw a shameless lie immediately.
Drug free transformation:
http://asp.elitefts.com/qa/training-logs.asp?qid=108257&tid=163
(http://asp.elitefts.com/images/upload/qa/barnesbefore.jpg)
(http://asp.elitefts.com/images/upload/qa/barnes2.jpg)
I posted this clients pics not too long ago, when we were at the 10 week point.
Well he got onstage this past weekend for his first bodybuilding competition ever, and ended up placing 5th out of 14 light heavies.
Total transformation time, 13 weeks.
Drug free.
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Wild guess: it's under his name.
My bad.
I looked under "Athletes".
But he's a "Physique Specialist".
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whats he staring at on the ceiling?
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But he does use the "fantastic" tropopin carb cycling type of diets, does he not?
Who exactly hired Palumbo? Shelby? He doesn't do his own diets?
That's what I thought. It's a free country but I figured as a trusted and respected TROPONIN nutritionist he would stick to the basic Troponin principles and do it himself and if anything pick Justin's brain or Nate's brain or Elaine's brain if he came to a plateau.
His reply to why he would work with Dave was...
" So I could further understand the ketogenic diet and master it so I can apply it to my own clients who may be btter suited for it. " ::)
Don't bother asking him about his obvious site injection scars and suspiscious biceps and delts. He'll have a mod zap that faster than Mindspin zapping a comment about Amanda Savell or David Jacobs for Ron on this site.
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That's what I thought. It's a free country but I figured as a trusted and respected TROPONIN nutritionist he would stick to the basic Troponin principles and do it himself and if anything pick Justin's brain or Nate's brain or Elaine's brain if he came to a plateau.
His reply to why he would work with Dave was...
" So I could further understand the ketogenic diet and master it so I can apply it to my own clients who may be btter suited for it. " ::)
Don't bother asking him about his obvious site injection scars and suspiscious biceps and delts. He'll have a mod zap that faster than Mindspin zapping a comment about Amanda Savell or David Jacobs for Ron on this site.
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TBH, I don't see what the problem is here. So he wanted to try a ketogenic diet, and use it on clients. Why not? Nothing necessarily wrong with trying different things. It would be worse if someone said a certain type of diet is the best forever and always and never considering other methods. Like Palumbo (no carbs). Or like Milos (carbs always).
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I would concur with that but I guess my underlying problem is his spam of lies he spews across every single bodybuilding message board in the Milky Way Galaxy - EXCEPT Getbig because, you know. He's never heard of Getbig.
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is his username on other sites his real name? Me thinks he needs a visit
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is his username on other sites his real name? Me thinks he needs a visit
Correct, disturbia.
Go ahead and pay him a visit if you have access to the other boards. He'll have a moderator zap ANY question he feels is threatening to his LIES and won't post until you log-off or get banned. Either or.
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I would concur with that but I guess my underlying problem is his spam of lies he spews across every single bodybuilding message board in the Milky Way Galaxy - EXCEPT Getbig because, you know. He's never heard of Getbig.
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Yeah he was just being sarcastic and saying, not asking, that this board is disrespectful.
He's probably reading this right now.
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Yeah he was just being sarcastic and saying, not asking, that this board is disrespectful.
He's probably reading this right now.
Of course he is...
I detected his sarcasm but why can't a nig gah be honest and say it?
" Look. If I posted on Getbig I would get hit so hard, believe me I would never post there again! "
- Block!
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DNP?
What does that stand for?
"1"
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whats he staring at on the ceiling?
probaly his boyfriends cumshot
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DNP?
What does that stand for?
"1"
Dinitrophenol
From what I've gathered it's THE most potent fat burner out there but it's also very dangerous. Overdose it and you're FUCKED.
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DNP?
What does that stand for?
"1"
Did Not Place in regards to this past weekend at Nationals.
Now he is talking about moving up to the HEAVYWEIGHT class. All that from simply upping your calories from carbs. You can gain 30lbs of muscle and keep your conditioning and bodyfat levels at bay as long as you have some cochamine and some green trea extract, afterall. ???
- Block!
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Did Not Place in regards to this past weekend at Nationals.
Now he is talking about moving up to the HEAVYWEIGHT class. All that from simply upping your calories from carbs. You can gain 30lbs of muscle and keep your conditioning and bodyfat levels at bay as long as you have some cochamine and some green trea extract, afterall. ???
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LOL. Never mind my earlier post.
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LOL. Never mind my earlier post.
Hahahaha... the drug 'dnp' is no match for the powers of green tea extract and chocamine, lovemonkey! Remember that.
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DNP is supposed to bump metabolism by up to 50% and body temp can rise without a ceiling (until you die of course)
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Shelby seems like an all right guy but I noticed that he's quick to run to mods if anyone questions him or makes him feel uncomfortable. Respected the guy at first but I noticed that he's a bit of a sobbing vagina.
Thanks for publicly exposing him. I knew that something wasn't right. Guy needs to get off his high horse. He's on a lot of drugs just to look mediocre and not place at shows. I take drugs too but at least I'm just doing it for myself and not getting oiled up for shows (and not even get a shitty ribbon or trophy!) :-X
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Shelby seems like an all right guy but I noticed that he's quick to run to mods if anyone questions him or makes him feel uncomfortable. Respected the guy at first but I noticed that he's a bit of a sobbing vagina.
Thanks for publicly exposing him. I knew that something wasn't right. Guy needs to get off his high horse. He's on a lot of drugs just to look mediocre and not place at shows. I take drugs too but at least I'm just doing it for myself and not getting oiled up for shows (and not even get a shitty ribbon or trophy!) :-X
Excellent post, dustin...
If he would just be a man and answer questions about why he has OBVIOUS lumps and bumps in his delts and biceps. Tell us how much insulin and growth he uses. Talk openly about getting popped. Be honest about his dosages and why then there would be no problem.
He politely PM's people asking them to NOT ask him any question out of the basic range. Ex: How many carbs should I take in post-workout? He has every moderator at every message-board he posts on speed dial. One question asking him about how he cycles clenbuterol and BOOM he's on the phone.
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As the Presidents of the United States would say......"He's lump, he's lump...."
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Getbig has the most traffic and most GUESTS at any given time than all other boards combined
you really think that's true?
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you really think that's true?
Fuck yeah its Getbig!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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To those of you not familiar with this cowboy let me introduce to you all Shelby Starnes.
Shelby can be seen posting the SAME threads about his greatness and wisdom as he in another 'guru for hire' at the following boards:
musculardevelopment.com
rxmuscle.com
intensemuscle.com
bodybuilding.com
probodybuilding.com
musclemayhem.com
Day after day, hour after hour he will cut and past the same questions/answers about him and his ability to tell you to "lower your carbs down to 25g with Meal-1, Meal-2 and Post-Workout" on each and every board. The split second he feels he is being challenged he immediately runs to the closest moderator and pleads his case for the question to be removed.
Over at Rx he was SPAMMING himself talking about how he went from a welterweight to a light-heavyweight with the same crisp conditioning simply by upping his calories. Nothing more. I sweated him asking him if he thought we were all fools. He quit posting there until I was banned. Again.
Asked POINT BLANK why he never posts on Getbig.com when Getbig has the most traffic and most GUESTS at any given time than all other boards combined his reply was...
" Getbig? Never heard of that site. Are they respectful over there? "
Here he is. THE Shelby Starnes. Discuss!
He's won more shows than you have Blocky. I didn't see you win in Illinois while he won the Middleweight and Overall at the Central States and actually qualified for the Nationals. Not only that, I've only heard positive stuff about Troponin Nutrition.
Sorry, but it appears that this guy is backing up his talk and in any event, he would most likely beat you on stage anyway.
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Those glasses + a guy named Shelby = fag got.
why is his head so fkucin huge
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He's won more shows than you have Blocky. I didn't see you win in Illinois while he won the Middleweight and Overall at the Central States and actually qualified for the Nationals. Not only that, I've only heard positive stuff about Troponin Nutrition.
Sorry, but it appears that this guy is backing up his talk and in any event, he would most likely beat you on stage anyway.
Bwa ha ha ha! Probably. He can get his glutes striated. I never done that. (no homo) I also compete maybe once every 2 years and don't put myself out there like some sort of "pro" or wizard. I also have no delusions about ever competing higher than locally. I didn't win Illinois because Mel won the show as the Illinois State was already scripted and pre-determined. The powers that be in IL hate my guts and I hate them right back.
He's won more shows because he competes 3-4x's a year, Liberace. I only hear positive things about Justin and Troponin as well.
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Over at Rx he was SPAMMING himself talking about how he went from a welterweight to a light-heavyweight with the same crisp conditioning simply by upping his calories. Nothing more. I sweated him asking him if he thought we were all fools. He quit posting there until I was banned. Again.
Go get'im, Block. Getbig's muckraker at work! :)
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I don't see what your problem is with Shelby, Block.
So what is his "prep" consists of many exotic drugs including DNP.
THEY ALL DO IT.
Palumbo, Hany, Chad, Troponin or whatever.
they all use drugs and diet with or without carbs, not that it matters much in the first place.
Dude doesn't have the prettiest physique but he did get insanely shredded and he does make drastic changes to his physique months after months.
I'd say he must be a good prep guy
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DNP is supposed to bump metabolism by up to 50% and body temp can rise without a ceiling (until you die of course)
that's pretty overrated
I seen people use 600mg per day and that's a high dose and they looked great with the stuff.
I tried 200mg EOD because I am a pussy with that stuff and I had major side effects after 4 weeks tho.
lot of rash on my arms, a metalic taste in my mouth 24h/7 (it lasted for a month after I stopped), horrible sweating
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Bwa ha ha ha! Probably. He can get his glutes striated. I never done that. (no homo) I also compete maybe once every 2 years and don't put myself out there like some sort of "pro" or wizard. I also have no delusions about ever competing higher than locally. I didn't win Illinois because Mel won the show as the Illinois State was already scripted and pre-determined. The powers that be in IL hate my guts and I hate them right back.
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isn't this the guy who make jokes about killing people over at mayhem? ;D
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I don't see what your problem is with Shelby, Block.
So what is his "prep" consists of many exotic drugs including DNP.
THEY ALL DO IT.
Palumbo, Hany, Chad, Troponin or whatever.
they all use drugs and diet with or without carbs, not that it matters much in the first place.
Dude doesn't have the prettiest physique but he did get insanely shredded and he does make drastic changes to his physique months after months.
I'd say he must be a good prep guy
How much to prep me,Canadian hunk-o-man?
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I don't see what your problem is with Shelby, Block.
So what is his "prep" consists of many exotic drugs including DNP.
THEY ALL DO IT.
Palumbo, Hany, Chad, Troponin or whatever.
they all use drugs and diet with or without carbs, not that it matters much in the first place.
Dude doesn't have the prettiest physique but he did get insanely shredded and he does make drastic changes to his physique months after months.
I'd say he must be a good prep guy
No doubt Shelby is knowledgeable and experienced. Absolutely.
My issue is how he SPAMS the boards without mercy. EVERY board on Earth (except for Getbig, of course) with countless threads about himself and how smart he is. My issue is how can he with a straight face try to sell people his bullshit? Kind of like how we make fun of FLEX Magazine or Muscle & Fitness using gearheads in their pages and trying to sell us how we need to take glutamine and leucine together and follow Weider Principles of drop-sets to gain muscle.
Ask Shelby a question about clenbuterol. BOOM... running to a moderator to have it removed. Ask him why he has a golf ball sized lump on his lateral delt. BAM... running to a moderator.
It just irks me, Stavios. Why can't a guy keep it real and be honest? Plus this is Getbig. He puts himself out there and expects NO resistance. Just questions about combining acetyl l-carnitine and green tea extract to potentiate the effects of fat loss.
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isn't this the guy who make jokes about killing people over at mayhem? ;D
That's why he is called "Mr. 187". I guess. I don't read Mayhem. I just get constantly accused of "insulting him" on other boards because according to the 'powers that be' in Illinois if it is written on the internet and if it is insulting then I must have written it. ::)
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How much to prep me,Canadian hunk-o-man?
haha ask Tbombz, I don't even know how to prep myself ;D
I just go by feeling, I know what quantities of food will make me lose fat.
my best conditions were attained when I didn't count calories, I just ate 6 super small protein meals
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No doubt Shelby is knowledgeable and experienced. Absolutely.
My issue is how he SPAMS the boards without mercy. EVERY board on Earth (except for Getbig, of course) with countless threads about himself and how smart he is. My issue is how can he with a straight face try to sell people his bullshit? Kind of like how we make fun of FLEX Magazine or Muscle & Fitness using gearheads in their pages and trying to sell us how we need to take glutamine and leucine together and follow Weider Principles of drop-sets to gain muscle.
Ask Shelby a question about clenbuterol. BOOM... running to a moderator to have it removed. Ask him why he has a golf ball sized lump on his lateral delt. BAM... running to a moderator.
It just irks me, Stavios. Why can't a #### keep it real and be honest? Plus this is Getbig. He puts himself out there and expects NO resistance. Just questions about combining acetyl l-carnitine and green tea extract to potentiate the effects of fat loss.
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Yeah I understand Block.
I guess I am just so used to seing and reading complete bullshit in this industry that nothing "shocks" me anymore.
Even when Kyomu sayd that Paco and Marcos Chacon don't do site injections ;D
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That's why he is called "Mr. 187". I guess. I don't read Mayhem. I just get constantly accused of "insulting him" on other boards because according to the 'powers that be' in Illinois if it is written on the internet and if it is insulting then I must have written it. ::)
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This dude seems like an idiot.
of course, I would not say this to his face but still ;D
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The only real problem i have with Shelby is that he spams every bodybuilding message board with his "drug free" transformations that are obviously a lie, and the other thing is that he post on about 33 other bb'ing boards, but he wont come within an ass scratch distance of getbig...............
Shelby = Self promoting whore of a fraud.
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If I had a business I probably wouldn't spam it on Getbig tho ;D
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The only real problem i have with Shelby is that he spams every bodybuilding message board with his "drug free" transformations that are obviously a lie, and the other thing is that he post on about 33 other bb'ing boards, but he wont come within an ass scratch distance of getbig...............
Shelby = Self promoting whore of a fraud.
And the fagtastic glasses.
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come back shelby!!
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And the fagtastic glasses.
you are pretty fantastic yourself SS !
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If I had a business I probably wouldn't spam it on Getbig tho ;D
What do you recommend then Steven? I am trying to figure this out if i ever decide to go public.
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What do you recommend then Steven? I am trying to figure this out if i ever decide to go public.
spam it everywhere else ;D
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you are pretty fantastic yourself SS !
And so are you, Canadian Cooze Crusher! ;D
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The only real problem i have with Shelby is that he spams every bodybuilding message board with his "drug free" transformations that are obviously a lie, and the other thing is that he post on about 33 other bb'ing boards, but he wont come within an ass scratch distance of getbig...............
Shelby = Self promoting whore of a fraud.
Well said.
I don't think most of the people posting in this thread understand the magnitude of his SPAMMING. Literally every bodybuilding message board he posts the SAME thread(s). He copies/pastes the exact same threads about himself and his ''transformations". If you comment anything outside of...
- good job!
- congrats!
- cool!
- holy cow you rock!
Of if you ask him any question outside of...
- Do you prefer waxy maize or Vitargo?
- How much cardio do you generally reccomend pre-contest?
- Do you think casein protein is beneficial at night?
.. he gets nervous and gets a moderator to remove posts.
People like Shelby needs to be challenged. How he can go on with a straight face and preach carbs and waxy maize fishing to land new clients without Getbig catching wind of it to put him in his place for so long was striking to me.
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Here he is. THE Shelby Starnes. Discuss!
whats there to discuss.
talk about someone who has zero business competing.
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Bad publicity is better than no publicity...
I heard it here on Getsmall
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Bad publicity is better than no publicity...
I heard it here on Getsmall
It very much is and I am sure I am doing Shelby a favor by sarting this thread but no bullshit act on bodybuilding message boards should even fall under the ever watchful eye of Getbig.
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Bwa ha ha ha! Probably. He can get his glutes striated. I never done that. (no homo) I also compete maybe once every 2 years and don't put myself out there like some sort of "pro" or wizard. I also have no delusions about ever competing higher than locally. I didn't win Illinois because Mel won the show as the Illinois State was already scripted and pre-determined. The powers that be in IL hate my guts and I hate them right back.
He's won more shows because he competes 3-4x's a year, Liberace. I only hear positive things about Justin and Troponin as well.
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Great....you're a bad apple and I trained with you??? Whats my fortune? Banned from WNBF??
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Too late. Shelby is handling my prep for my upcoming Master's show. Thanks a lot for telling me in advance. Could've saved me the $199!
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Great....you're a bad apple and I trained with you??? Whats my fortune? Banned from WNBF??
Hahaha... No. If you decided to flip to the NPC and compete around Chicagoland then I would be smart and steer clear of me.
Take John Hansen. He used to always judge local NPC shows in the area. He started promoting his own shows a couple years back under a different federation and now he is conveniently not asked to judge or even help out with production anymore.
The Illinois 'powers that be' think I'm a big-mouth shit starting whistle blower when the truth is... I'm... a... big-mouth shit starting whistle blower.
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Bwa ha ha ha! Probably. He can get his glutes striated. I never done that. (no homo) I also compete maybe once every 2 years and don't put myself out there like some sort of "pro" or wizard. I also have no delusions about ever competing higher than locally. I didn't win Illinois because Mel won the show as the Illinois State was already scripted and pre-determined. The powers that be in IL hate my guts and I hate them right back.
He's won more shows because he competes 3-4x's a year, Liberace. I only hear positive things about Justin and Troponin as well.
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Mel won because he was the best on stage that day. I saw the pictures and while you looked great, he was much better. You can't blame the so called "powers that be" for your loss as that's simply ridiculous. You're acting as though its professional wrestling where it isn't, Block. Come on now.... ::)
The only thing I will agree with you on is that he spams the board a lot and that's about it.
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If I had a business I probably wouldn't spam it on Getbig tho ;D
Exactly, that's why I don't talk about my business up here.
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Hahaha... No. If you decided to flip to the NPC and compete around Chicagoland then I would be smart and steer clear of me.
Take John Hansen. He used to always judge local NPC shows in the area. He started promoting his own shows a couple years back under a different federation and now he is conveniently not asked to judge or even help out with production anymore.
The Illinois 'powers that be' think I'm a big-mouth shit starting whistle blower when the truth is... I'm... a... big-mouth shit starting whistle blower.
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You can't be an official for 2 different bodybuilding federations. Just doesn't work that way. Its like working for Dell and Apple at the same thing.....oh no Mr Jackson... ;D
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Exactly, that's why I don't talk about my business up here.
Vince we all know you are retarded and posting from a 'special' school so you can post about anything you like pet
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Shelby calling the transformations natural isn't that shocking... i mean how often do we hear any "guru" other than Palumbo even answer a drug question? Then you've got the pro's who claim they used a cc a week and more bullshit like that... nothing new imo.
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Shelby calling the transformations natural isn't that shocking... i mean how often do we hear any "guru" other than Palumbo even answer a drug question? Then you've got the pro's who claim they used a cc a week and more bullshit like that... nothing new imo.
If Shelby had his own set specific Q & A it would be no big thing but he whores every board across the universe (except for Getbig ::) ) and won't answer questions about gear. How fking lame? Why not? As if he's going to get into trouble....
.... again.
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whats he staring at on the ceiling?
Schmoe Cam
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If you are a BB and never heard of Getbig, then you are not a BB.
Fixed.
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And so are you, Canadian Cooze Crusher! ;D
LOL
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Exactly, that's why I don't talk about my business up here.
What? You are always talking about your cracked out business on here.
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If I had a business I probably wouldn't spam it on Getbig tho ;D
Nope, not a good idea.
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If Shelby had his own set specific Q & A it would be no big thing but he whores every board across the universe (except for Getbig ::) ) and won't answer questions about gear. How fking lame? Why not? As if he's going to get into trouble....
Did he get busted for dealing?
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Nope, not a good idea.
Bullshit. Think about the thousands of Getbiggers who now use MPG caps after Jag Enterprises mentioned it once or twice here.
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Did he get busted for dealing?
I have no idea if he did, but has there ever been a guru who wasn't a dealer?
I didn't think so. :D
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I have no idea if he did, but has there ever been a guru who wasn't a dealer?
I didn't think so. :D
You prep people so in essence a "guru" so.......... :D
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You prep people so in essence a "guru" so.......... :D
LOL, nah I don't think so. :D I have only helped a few personal friends with keeping them on track during prep. Being a guru who pushes drugs on clients they don't know (or even selling period) must be the worst fucking job in the world. What a headache. :D
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LOL, nah I don't think so. :D I have only helped a few personal friends with keeping them on track during prep. Being a guru who pushes drugs on clients they don't know (or even selling period) must be the worst fucking job in the world. What a headache. :D
QFT!
I've done the same with V_B. I couldn't fathom guys like Shelby who try to make it their "career". I'd put a revolver in my mouth.
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QFT!
I've done the same with V_B. I couldn't fathom guys like Shelby who try to make it their "career". I'd put a revolver in my mouth.
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Same here.
especially with women it must be hell on earth
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Just throwing my two cents out here...
- As far as dodging questions go, I've seen Shelby be straightforward. I've asked him about using anabolics while on a carbohydrate rotation and he was straightforward about it. I've even asked about T3 and Clen and he's been straight about it too.
-I've seen the guy answer tons of questions left and right (on various message boards) so I can imagine he's bombarded with legitimate ones and attacks alike.
-Granted, the guy does answer a lot of basic questions (mainly), but he has a lot of PAYING clients for his advice. Doubt he's going to spill everything about every aspect he knows about dieting when he has clients who pay for the same advice (and don't go into the issue of why 'idiots would be paying for this info'...that's not the argument here)
- I doubt he's advocating drug use to his clients. If they're telling him they're drug free, why not tout it? There have been some other transformations he's shown that are pretty impressive, especially women, that I doubt had any drug use involved. It's really not an aspect he controls.
All in all I'd say he gets a lot of shit thrown his way on other boards, and I'd say he has an idea of who's legit in their approach and who isn't. Yeah, I've noticed he dodges questions, etc. but a lot of times they're asked in such a poor fashion, or basically an attacking manner, that I'd also probably work around them too. I'm just giving points to think about. Personally, I've learned a lot from his posts on carb rotation. I feel that advice has paid off well in terms of my approach to my diet. Is it brand new advice? No, but he's went into enough detail that I've gotten a grasp of it and otherwise wouldn't have.
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Hi Shelby!
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whats he staring at on the ceiling?
at the shite hitting the fan...
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Fellas you guys are forgetting a key man rule, never trust a man with a woman's name, EVER.
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Shelby's a good guy.
I don't see the anger towards him. He's about the least arrogant guy on earth. He'll be the first to admit he was born with train hopping genetics (he actually did that for a year when he was young, so we have proof that his genetics are sound for that) and just enjoys trying to do better at bodybuilding.
When I met Shelby, he was about 160 lbs and 20% bodyfat....with the same glasses. He wanted to work with me to do a show and I wanted to turn him down. He was persistent and asked to meet him in person.
I finally agreed to meet him at the gym before a workout so I knew it would be short. He told me that he would follow the diet "to a T," which is what EVERYONE says (even the people on this thread that have helped their friends know that "to a T" is typically code for "I hope WalMart rotisserie chicken counts for my chicken meals).
Turns out, he did follow the diet to a T. He was a great client, really seemed interested in learning about nutrition, and never complained about a thing (which never happens on first diet).
He ended up coming in at a bone-dry 155lbs for his show and took 2nd in the open.
He asked me more questions about nutrition, so to shut him up I told him to buy some college textbooks on exercise physiology and nutrition....which he did....and which he read.
So, believe me, Shelby didn't make any better of a first impression on me.
But it turns out that he's really a great guy. He realizes he doesn't have Phil Heath genetics, but he gets a kick out of trying to improve as a bber and doesn't make any claims that he's anything more than a former train hopping non-athlete who enjoys the process of bodybuilding.
I get the feeling that people have the idea that he's full of himself or something.
The guy is about as opposite of that as possible. Seriously, his only lavish expense is his eyewear.
He works with all kinds of people. He doesn't just take on bodybuilders that have already competed a dozen times. He works with regular Joes, women, non-competitors, overweight people that want to get healthy, and gets them all in shape. His clients email our admin account all the time to say how helpful he is, how personalize his advice is, how bad his glasses are, etc.
Seriously, the guy has some funny stories about his youth. Every time we meet up for dinner or something, once I get past his glasses, he has me laughing my ass off with some of his stories from when he was growing up.
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Shelby's a good guy.
I don't see the anger towards him. He's about the least arrogant guy on earth. He'll be the first to admit he was born with train hopping genetics (he actually did that for a year when he was young, so we have proof that his genetics are sound for that) and just enjoys trying to do better at bodybuilding.
When I met Shelby, he was about 160 lbs and 20% bodyfat....with the same glasses. He wanted to work with me to do a show and I wanted to turn him down. He was persistent and asked to meet him in person.
I finally agreed to meet him at the gym before a workout so I knew it would be short. He told me that he would follow the diet "to a T," which is what EVERYONE says (even the people on this thread that have helped their friends know that "to a T" is typically code for "I hope WalMart rotisserie chicken counts for my chicken meals).
Turns out, he did follow the diet to a T. He was a great client, really seemed interested in learning about nutrition, and never complained about a thing (which never happens on first diet).
He ended up coming in at a bone-dry 155lbs for his show and took 2nd in the open.
He asked me more questions about nutrition, so to shut him up I told him to buy some college textbooks on exercise physiology and nutrition....which he did....and which he read.
So, believe me, Shelby didn't make any better of a first impression on me.
But it turns out that he's really a great guy. He realizes he doesn't have Phil Heath genetics, but he gets a kick out of trying to improve as a bber and doesn't make any claims that he's anything more than a former train hopping non-athlete who enjoys the process of bodybuilding.
I get the feeling that people have the idea that he's full of himself or something.
The guy is about as opposite of that as possible. Seriously, his only lavish expense is his eyewear.
He works with all kinds of people. He doesn't just take on bodybuilders that have already competed a dozen times. He works with regular Joes, women, non-competitors, overweight people that want to get healthy, and gets them all in shape. His clients email our admin account all the time to say how helpful he is, how personalize his advice is, how bad his glasses are, etc.
Seriously, the guy has some funny stories about his youth. Every time we meet up for dinner or something, once I get past his glasses, he has me laughing my ass off with some of his stories from when he was growing up.
Thanks for clearing things up. Once again Blockhead has clearly made a complete ass of himself
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Thanks for clearing things up. Once again Blockhead has clearly made a complete ass of himself
I'm not going to get into that. If he had the chance to talk to Shelby, he'd see that he's getting the wrong impression about him. It's not a big deal though, Shelby does post on a lot of boards. That's good for his business though. He doesn't spam the Troponin Nutrition name or post with the sole intent of getting people to link to our website, but he does promote the changes his clients make and makes sure to congratulate his clients when they do well in shows.
If you post a ton, people are going to get annoyed from time to time.
I don't think he posts pics of himself asking for nothing but "you look great bro!" responses. I know he used to ask for real criticism on his own pics...maybe he doesn't do that anymore. Most of the responses are just about his glasses anyway. lol
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When I met Shelby, he was about 160 lbs and 20% bodyfat....
He ended up coming in at a bone-dry 155lbs for his show and took 2nd in the open.
How did he manage this?
That's pretty impressive.
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I'm not going to get into that. If he had the chance to talk to Shelby, he'd see that he's getting the wrong impression about him. It's not a big deal though, Shelby does post on a lot of boards. That's good for his business though. He doesn't spam the Troponin Nutrition name or post with the sole intent of getting people to link to our website, but he does promote the changes his clients make and makes sure to congratulate his clients when they do well in shows.
If you post a ton, people are going to get annoyed from time to time.
I don't think he posts pics of himself asking for nothing but "you look great bro!" responses. I know he used to ask for real criticism on his own pics...maybe he doesn't do that anymore. Most of the responses are just about his glasses anyway. lol
I understand however Blockhead has the bad habit of shooting people first and asking questions later and its unfair to trash someone who doesn't even post over here or ever actually having a conversation with him.
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How did he manage this?
That's pretty impressive.
With a contest diet. I think he may have been training as a powerlifter before the contest prep. I really don't know his exact stats, I just used numbers that I thought would look impressive.
He didn't look like a bodybuilder though, that's the main point.
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This was a post/question after Shelby took time to make a post over at rxmuscle.com to congratulate a light heavyweight just to give an idea of how people even approach him in terms of questions.
"hey shelby how much more kcal did you eat and did you up the dose on anabolic also??. love to here how you grow so much. and do you do a lot site inj??
thanks for the help"
Really??
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i totally think guys n girls who do this natural transformation and natural in general r total 100% bullshit for sure
but hey this is how people make money cause there r enough people with no common sense that cant see that this stuff is a joke..pretty much ALL SUPLEMENTS except for ionized whey protein and creatine . do almost no good for u at all. everytime a supp comes out like androstine and epidrine or ghb that actually works the government gets rid of.. if people look to good to be natural THEY ARE NOT NATURAL.... any of us who have been around know this!!! just my 5 cents!!!
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Shelby's a good guy.
I don't see the anger towards him. He's about the least arrogant guy on earth. He'll be the first to admit he was born with train hopping genetics (he actually did that for a year when he was young, so we have proof that his genetics are sound for that) and just enjoys trying to do better at bodybuilding.
When I met Shelby, he was about 160 lbs and 20% bodyfat....with the same glasses. He wanted to work with me to do a show and I wanted to turn him down. He was persistent and asked to meet him in person.
I finally agreed to meet him at the gym before a workout so I knew it would be short. He told me that he would follow the diet "to a T," which is what EVERYONE says (even the people on this thread that have helped their friends know that "to a T" is typically code for "I hope WalMart rotisserie chicken counts for my chicken meals).
Turns out, he did follow the diet to a T. He was a great client, really seemed interested in learning about nutrition, and never complained about a thing (which never happens on first diet).
He ended up coming in at a bone-dry 155lbs for his show and took 2nd in the open.
He asked me more questions about nutrition, so to shut him up I told him to buy some college textbooks on exercise physiology and nutrition....which he did....and which he read.
So, believe me, Shelby didn't make any better of a first impression on me.
But it turns out that he's really a great guy. He realizes he doesn't have Phil Heath genetics, but he gets a kick out of trying to improve as a bber and doesn't make any claims that he's anything more than a former train hopping non-athlete who enjoys the process of bodybuilding.
I get the feeling that people have the idea that he's full of himself or something.
The guy is about as opposite of that as possible. Seriously, his only lavish expense is his eyewear.
He works with all kinds of people. He doesn't just take on bodybuilders that have already competed a dozen times. He works with regular Joes, women, non-competitors, overweight people that want to get healthy, and gets them all in shape. His clients email our admin account all the time to say how helpful he is, how personalize his advice is, how bad his glasses are, etc.
Seriously, the guy has some funny stories about his youth. Every time we meet up for dinner or something, once I get past his glasses, he has me laughing my ass off with some of his stories from when he was growing up.
you sound like the worst contest prep guru ever - he paid you money asks some questions and you tell him to go buy some books hahahahahahahahahahaha
no wonder you like him, anyone else would tell you to go fuck yourself.
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you sound like the worst contest prep guru ever - he paid you money asks some questions and you tell him to go buy some books hahahahahahahahahahaha
no wonder you like him, anyone else would tell you to go fuck yourself.
This was after the diet, after 4 months of prep together when he wanted to learn more information for himself.
He wanted to learn more about the actual physiological mechanisms of the body. Whenever someone asks that, I give them some University textbooks that I think are good. Most people don't want to take the time to actually learn how the body works, so it never goes past that point.
Shelby took the time to learn, which is why I asked him to join Troponin Nutrition.
He continued to take the time to learn, which is why he now co-owns Troponin Nutrition.
Also, I don't like to think of myself as a "contest prep guru."
I consider myself more of a father figure, only younger, better looking, and able to steal your girlfriend. I guess "Idol" would be a better word.
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This was after the diet, after 4 months of prep together when he wanted to learn more information for himself.
He wanted to learn more about the actual physiological mechanisms of the body. Whenever someone asks that, I give them some University textbooks that I think are good. Most people don't want to take the time to actually learn how the body works, so it never goes past that point.
Shelby took the time to learn, which is why I asked him to join Troponin Nutrition.
He continued to take the time to learn, which is why he now co-owns Troponin Nutrition.
Also, I don't like to think of myself as a "contest prep guru."
I consider myself more of a father figure, only younger, better looking, and able to steal your girlfriend. I guess "Idol" would be a better word.
hahaha maybe pop idol if you could sing, but i don't fancy your chances trying to steal my girlfriend with your butter face ;D
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Just one of the many inspiring transformations to be found on the Troponin Nutrition website
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Justin,
ill explain this to u plain and simple.
No one likes spammers!!!!!!!! Therefore thats where the hate for shelby comes from.
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Justin,
ill explain this to u plain and simple.
No one likes spammers!!!!!!!! Therefore thats where the hate for shelby comes from.
To be fair, no one likes a dozen exclamation marks either. lol
And I said that I could understand when people get annoyed with spammers, and even understood if people were annoyed with Shelby because they thought he was guilty of it. But we really don't try to overtly spam websites. Shelby doesn't post direct links to Troponin Nutrition's website and doesn't generally pop up on random websites to spam his services and then never post again.
He posts regularly on all the boards he is a member of and has at least as many "regular" posts and answers to questions as he does "hey look at me!" posts.
So, if anything, he's guilty of spending too much time on bodybuilding websites compared to porn sites. I agree wholeheartedly with the problem on that matter and have recommended he view at least one video at http://video.xnxx.com/tags/ for every post that can potentially viewed as spam.
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Justin i commend you for attempting to come rescue shelby and defend his honour.
But theres no use, even u can admit that he spams boards trying to get clients because he quit his 401k, medical benefit having job to become an "online nutritionist".
I would spam the boards too if i had to make a living telling ppl how to carb cycle correctly, but that does make it right, no it doesnt.
Oh and Shelby does post pics of himself just for "bro u look good" comments...........He posted numerous threads on every bb'ing msg board i can think of asking ........" has anyone moved up two weight classes at the national level in the same year"......Over on rx when he posted that thread initially no one responded. So instead of bumping the thread, he just started a new one a few days later with the same title........Thats self spamming bro. He just wanted ppl to tell him he was the first to ever do that........What he forgot to realize is that it makes no difference if u move up two weight classes then get a big DNP next to ur name.
Also i found it insulting that when blockhead asked him what type of program did he follow to move up two weight classes within a few months while keeping similar conditioning, he stated it was all diet..........what a crock of shit.
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stop spamming shelby
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To those of you not familiar with this cowboy let me introduce to you all Shelby Starnes.
Shelby can be seen posting the SAME threads about his greatness and wisdom as he in another 'guru for hire' at the following boards:
musculardevelopment.com
rxmuscle.com
intensemuscle.com
bodybuilding.com
probodybuilding.com
musclemayhem.com
Day after day, hour after hour he will cut and past the same questions/answers about him and his ability to tell you to "lower your carbs down to 25g with Meal-1, Meal-2 and Post-Workout" on each and every board. The split second he feels he is being challenged he immediately runs to the closest moderator and pleads his case for the question to be removed.
Over at Rx he was SPAMMING himself talking about how he went from a welterweight to a light-heavyweight with the same crisp conditioning simply by upping his calories. Nothing more. I sweated him asking him if he thought we were all fools. He quit posting there until I was banned. Again.
Asked POINT BLANK why he never posts on Getbig.com when Getbig has the most traffic and most GUESTS at any given time than all other boards combined his reply was...
" Getbig? Never heard of that site. Are they respectful over there? "
Here he is. THE Shelby Starnes. Discuss!
lol wtf is that