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More Palin Lies: The Trooper in 'Troopergate' Breaks His Silence
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Share Print CommentsThe Alaska State Trooper at the center of Sarah Palin's so-called "Troopergate Scandal"--which impeded her run for the vice-presidency and stained her record as Alaska governor--has broken his more than year-long silence since his embattled divorce with Palin's sister, Molly, became a cause celebre during last year's presidential campaign.
After reading passages from Palin's memoirs Going Rogue that deal with his marriage and subsequent divorce, a "fed up" Mike Wooten, 37, who still serves as an Alaska State Trooper in Anchorage, called the book "a pack of lies."
According to Wooten, Palin and her father, Chuck Heath Sr., have "interfered with my life--and my children's lives--for at least the last five years. And it is still going on. I'm done with it."
Characterizing his adversaries as "snakes," Wooten said he has kept quiet long enough. "From this point on I'm speaking my mind," he declared. "I'm speaking the truth. Let the chips fall where they may." He acknowledged that he is considering taking legal action against Palin on multiple fronts.
Although Palin would try to claim otherwise during the presidential campaign, an independent investigation ordered by the bipartisan Alaska Legislative Council (composed of ten Republicans and four Democrats) and conducted by former Republican prosecutor Steve Branchflower, resulted in the finding "that Governor Palin abused her power by violating Alaska Statute 39.52.110(a) of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act."
The report issued by Branchflower documented more than thirty occasions in which then Governor Palin, her husband Todd or members of her staff tried to influence Alaska's highly regarded Commissioner of Public Safety, Walt Monegan, to fire Wooten. When Monegan refused, Palin fired him instead.
In addition to the finding that Palin "abused" her office, the Alaska Senate cited Todd Palin and nine other state employees for "contempt" for ignoring legislative subpoenas to testify in the Troopergate investigation.
A native of California whose father immigrated to the United States from Honduras, Wooten served 10 years in the Air Force and three more in the Air National Guard Reserves. He participated in a trio of U.S. military operations in the Persian Gulf War--Desert Storm, Desert Shield and Restore Hope--before returning stateside to Alaska at Elmendorf Air Force Base, about 45 minutes from Wasilla.
Partially disabled from his military service, Wooten pointed out that neither Todd nor Sarah Palin, or Chuck Heath for that metter, served in the armed forces. Wooten said he was particularly "disgusted and incensed" by Palin's "insincere" dedication in Going Rogue to "our men and women in uniform."
Wooten further noted with irony that many of those who have been victimized by Palin during her political career--including former Wasilla police chief Irl Stambaugh; Monegan and himself--were all veterans. "Sarah is only about Sarah," Wooten said. "She doesn't care about the 'men and women in uniform.' It's all about advancing Sarah's career."
Public records from Alaska--some of which have been revealed for the first time--chronicle a half-decade long obsession with Wooten by Palin, her father and, later, by Palin's husband Todd.
"They're like poisonous snakes in the grass who spew nothing but venom," Wooten said. "They just lay in wait and they attack you until you're dead."
In Going Rogue, Palin mentions none of Wooten's military record, but cites many charges that were brought against Wooten that were subsequently dismissed. She contends that there were "ten different" citizen complaints field against Wooten--without acknowledging that all of them were filed by members of her family or close friends. "They filed every stinking one of the charges," Wooten contends. "But it's been more like two dozen."
In an interview conducted in Alaska this past summer, John Cyr, the former Alaska Public Safety Employees Association Executive Director, confirmed Wooten's charges:
Not one complaint has ever been made about Mike Wooten's professional performance from any member of the public other than the Palin/Heath family and their closest friends. The troopers that I've talked to that have worked with Mike tell me Mike is the kind of guy they'd go through a door with. That he does his work. He's a professional. You know, just no complaints out there about Mike's work.
"It's the product of an ugly divorce and custody battle," Cyr [pictured below, at left, with Wooten] said of the complaints against the State Trooper. "It's nothing more than that."
Wooten has acknowledged several mistakes he made while "I was younger" and admitted there were several things he "would have done differently," but he chose to remain silent as the McCain-Palin campaign portrayed him as a "rogue" Trooper (note the irony here) who Tased his step-son and went off on violent, drunken binges, to the point of threatening to kill Palin's father.
Wooten calls the version of events rendered in Going Rogue an "outright lie." Either it "didn't happen [the way she alleges]," he says, "or she exaggerated it all beyond recognition. I look forward to telling my side of this story."
Wooten now joins an ever-growing array of figures from John McCain on down who have challenged the veracity of Palin's memoirs. The list also includes McCain senior advisers Steve Schmidt and Nicolle Wallace, Palin's former legislative director John Bitney, her former political ally Andree McLeod, and former Alaska gubernatorial candidate Andrew Halcro. All Republicans. Wooten identifies himself as a "conservative" as well.
Palin contends "the chapter for our family was closed" with the divorce but fails to acknowledge any of the sustained harassment of Wooten, which, he says, continues to this day.
The father of three (two of whom are with Palin's sister), Wooten, still living in Wasilla, is described by his friends as a "very involved father," active as a coach in all of his three children's extracurricular sports activities--hockey, football and soccer. "I've committed my life to these children and being a good dad," he says. "I'm simply not going to allow the Palins or Chuck Heath to interfere in our lives any longer."
Palin recounts a story in Going Rogue that Wooten "asked me to write him a recommendation for the Alaska State Trooper Academy." What she doesn't acknowledge is that she wrote more than one on his behalf. In a letter dated January 1, 2000, written on official City of Wasilla stationery, Palin praises Wooten profusely, though she fails to declare her then-pending familial relationship with him.
It is my pleasure to provide character reference examples for Mr. Mike Wooten. Since I have become acquainted with Mike I continue to be impressed with his integrity, worthwhile community spirit and trustworthiness...
On a personal note, I have witnessed Mike's gift of calm and kindness towards many young kids here in Wasilla. I have never seen him raise his voice, nor lose patience, nor become agitated, in the presence of any child. Instead, Mike consistently remains a fine role model for my own children and other young people in Wasilla.
I wish America had more people with the grace and sincerity that mirrors the character of Mike Wooten. We would have a much kinder calmer trustworthy nation as a result.
I believe the United States Air Force has been fortunate to have the services of Mike the past 10 years. His work ethic, his American patriotism, his obvious dedication to traditional values, and his strong faith in God and truth is witnessed in Mike's everyday living.
--Sarah Palin, Mayor
None of which, of course, is mentioned in Going Rogue.
For his part, Wooten recalls a telling conversation with an associate of Palin's campaign team when she was running for Governor in 2006. "You could probably bring the whole campaign down," the aide said. "You probably know things about her that she doesn't want other people to know."
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Blacken, I am convinced you are either an ugly woman jealous of Palin or a geeky nerd who was turned down by women like her.
You are simply fearful of this woman to the point of sheer panic.
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heres a ggek that would vote for her because she looks good SMART REAL SMART
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heres a ggek that would vote for her because she looks good SMART REAL SMART
I owned you on the other thread re: the lawyer for the terrorists. Nothing to say on that?
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Blacken, I am convinced you are either an ugly woman jealous of Palin or a geeky nerd who was turned down by women like her.
You are simply fearful of this woman to the point of sheer panic.
what's that got to do with the content of his post?
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TYPICAL LAWYER TALK MOST OF THEM ARE SCUMBAGS
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what's that got to do with the content of his post?
Nothing, other than the fact that this issue has been dealt with many times. This jerk off threatened to kill her father and tazed a 10 y/o. What would you do in that situation?
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she abused her power, yeah.
was it justified? who knows.
but she did go beyond what she was allowed to do.
not a big deal for this d-bag... but it shows she doesn't respect the law. As president, will she just wipe her ass with the law books as well?
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she abused her power, yeah.
was it justified? who knows.
but she did go beyond what she was allowed to do.
not a big deal for this d-bag... but it shows she doesn't respect the law. As president, will she just wipe her ass with the law books as well?
She was cleared on this and you people are still crying over a guy who threatened to kill her dad?
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she abused her power, yeah.
was it justified? who knows.
but she did go beyond what she was allowed to do.
not a big deal for this d-bag... but it shows she doesn't respect the law. As president, will she just wipe her ass with the law books as well?
most presidents have or at least the last few have...Including the one we have in right now
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She was cleared on this and you people are still crying over a guy who threatened to kill her dad?
Everyone involved or around Palin seems nuts to me.
Here is the result of the investigation per Wiki:
Branchflower Report
The state of Alaska investigation concluded on October 10, 2008. After a full day of deliberation, the twelve members of the legislative commission voted unanimously to release the 263-page Branchflower Report. The report included four main findings:[2]
1.Governor Sarah Palin abused her power as Governor in that her conduct violated AS 39.52.110(a) of the Ethics Act, which provides "The legislature reaffirms that each public officer holds office as a public trust, and any effort to benefit a personal or financial interest through official action is a violation of that trust."
2.Although Walt Monegan's refusal to fire Trooper Michael Wooten was not the sole reason he was fired by Governor Sarah Palin, it was likely a contributing factor to his termination as Commissioner of Public Safety. In spite of that, Governor Palin's firing of Commissioner Monegan was a proper and lawful exercise of her constitutional and statutory authority to hire and fire executive branch department heads.
3.Harbor Adjustment Service of Anchorage, and its owner Ms. Murleen Wilkes, handled Trooper Michael Wooten's workers' compensation claim properly and in the normal course of business like any other claim processed by Harbor Adjustment Service and Ms. Wilkes. Further, that he received all the workers' compensation benefits to which he was entitled.
4.The Attorney General's office failed to substantially comply with (the investigation's) August 6, 2008 written request to Governor Sarah Palin for information about the case in the form of emails.[118]
The report also concludes that Palin wrongfully allowed her husband, Todd Palin, to use state resources to pursue having Trooper Wooten fired, stating that "Palin knowingly permitted a situation to continue where impermissible pressure was placed on several subordinates in order to advance a personal agenda..."[2]
The report also recommended some clarifications of ethics statutes for the future. The third finding relates to evidence that Alaskan officials had informed the owner of the firm handling Wooten's worker's compensation claim that the Governor wanted Wooten's claim denied.[119] However, the report finds that the claim was handled without regard to any attempt at political pressure.
Palin responded by saying, "About the Tasergate issue... I'm very very pleased to be cleared of any legal wrongdoing, any hint of any kind of unethical activity there."[120] This statement was criticized as inconsistent with the contents of the report by the media[121] and by Democratic state senator Kim Elton.[122]
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most presidents have or at least the last few have...Including the one we have in right now
how so?
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"most presidents have or at least the last few have...Including the one we have in right now"
yep.
Doesn't make it right.
mccain was in bed with that keating shit, and obama had the rezco sleazy apartment real estate deal.
I'd prefer a prez come in WITHOUT a history of abusing power and breaking rules to make profit or get even with people, wouldn't you?
maybe in 2012 the R's will put up a candidate without a history like that.
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"most presidents have or at least the last few have...Including the one we have in right now"
yep.
Doesn't make it right.
mccain was in bed with that keating shit, and obama had the rezco sleazy apartment real estate deal.
I'd prefer a prez come in WITHOUT a history of abusing power and breaking rules to make profit or get even with people, wouldn't you?
maybe in 2012 the R's will put up a candidate without a history like that.
And McCain was cleared of that Keating Shit. Was he still involved? Who knows, but he was "cleared" of it. But who the fuck knows what that even means anymore.
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how so?
LOL bro youre so blind to any obama faults its hilarious, no wait pathetic
how about him continuing and furthering the bush era patriot act type legislation...
or as 240 pointed out the rezco bs
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LOL bro youre so blind to any obama faults its hilarious, no wait pathetic
how about him continuing and furthering the bush era patriot act type legislation...
or as 240 pointed out the rezco bs
I'm not aware of any "abuse" by Obama regarding Rezco but I thought your statement was in regard to abuse while POTUS.
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I'm not aware of any "abuse" by Obama regarding Rezco but I thought your statement was in regard to abuse while POTUS.
LOL bro youre so blind to any obama faults its hilarious, no wait pathetic
how about him continuing and furthering the bush era patriot act type legislation...
or as 240 pointed out the rezco bs
hows that for while being potus?
how about appointing a person to run a PUBLIC COMPANY...
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hows that for while being potus?
how about appointing a person to run a PUBLIC COMPANY...
where's the abuse of power.... I mean other than in your imagination?
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Blacken, I am convinced you are either an ugly woman jealous of Palin or a geeky nerd who was turned down by women like her.
You are simply fearful of this woman to the point of sheer panic.
why? he can cut/paste just as well as you can.....
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why? he can cut/paste just as well as you can.....
He is afraid of Palin for some reason. I dont know why.
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He is afraid of Palin for some reason. I dont know why.
she's definitely a MILF.
and I'd hit it.
butt, if Todd wanted a MFM, I wouldnt say no...
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Blacken, I am convinced you are either an ugly woman jealous of Palin or a geeky nerd who was turned down by women like her.
You are simply fearful of this woman to the point of sheer panic.
the right wing is making the SAME damn mistake with palin as they did with bush....
its kinda like the ijit islamist that will defend terrorist acts...
Palin is an idiot....bush ws NOT a conservative (conservatives dont fight useless wars andactually put INTO welfare :-\ )
the right needs someone better or forget 2012
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2010 is more important than 2012.
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'the right wing is making the SAME damn mistake with palin as they did with bush....
its kinda like the ijit islamist that will defend terrorist acts...
Palin is an idiot....bush ws NOT a conservative (conservatives dont fight useless wars andactually put INTO welfare )
the right needs someone better or forget 2012"
GREAT POINT!!!
If Mccain and Palin had said, straight up, "Bush did a shitty job on a lot of things, and we're going to fix it", they would have beaten the inexperienced Obama by a mile. I mean, a war hero and a MILF - they should have won easily. instead, they kept playing grabass with Dubya, "i've always supported the bush tax cuts..." even when video showed he shat on them for 6 years prior.
Now, like toxie said, they're defending Palin instead of admitting "yeah, she was a dumbass, but we're going to deliver a better candidate next time".
And as a result, Obama is still at 48 or 49% approval (despite a major recession) and the GOP's list of leaders in the last year is pathetic. Rush, Beck, Cheney, Sanford, and Palin. I mean, did yall purposefully select the most polarizing, idiotic immature people on purpose? lol
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2010 is more important than 2012.
yeah, They said that shit in 2004 also.
Without a clear party leader and direction in 2006, the GOp got destroyed in mid-terms. Now, no doubt the dems will lose a few seats in 10. But there is no leader like a then-spotless Newt to spearhead this movement to retake the house. Instead you have Alaskan Blogger Palin screaming over her own security to Canadian TV hosts about canadian health care changes - THAT is the biggest face of the GOP today.
Keep defending that turd tho. Keep all your good candidates tucked away. Giftwrap 2012 by keeping the face of the GOP a whiny blogger signing books.
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I agree about the message of the campaign. The reality is that the relection in 2012 will be all about timing and the economy.
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where's the abuse of power.... I mean other than in your imagination?
are you shitting me straw, was the patriot act constitutional? pretty sure you bitched about it...but when obama continues it and actually furthers its end youre ok with it?
how about the govt being able to fire and appoint ppl to head public companies....you think thats constitutional as well i guess?
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Ton: Straw did not know about this. But add this to the list.
________________________ ________________________ ____________
The White House Fires a Watchdog
The curious case of the inspector general and a Presidential ally
www.wsj.com
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President Obama swept to office on the promise of a new kind of politics, but then how do you explain last week's dismissal of federal Inspector General Gerald Walpin for the crime of trying to protect taxpayer dollars? This is a case that smells of political favoritism and Chicago rules.
A George W. Bush appointee, Mr. Walpin has since 2007 been the inspector general for the Corporation for National and Community Service, the federal agency that oversees such subsidized volunteer programs as AmeriCorps. In April 2008 the Corporation asked Mr. Walpin to investigate reports of irregularities at St. HOPE, a California nonprofit run by former NBA star and Obama supporter Kevin Johnson. St. HOPE had received an $850,000 AmeriCorps grant, which was supposed to go for three purposes: tutoring for Sacramento-area students; the redevelopment of several buildings; and theater and art programs.
Gerald Walpin, Inspector General of the Corporation For National and Community Service, was fired by President Barack Obama.
Mr. Walpin's investigators discovered that the money had been used instead to pad staff salaries, meddle politically in a school-board election, and have AmeriCorps members perform personal services for Mr. Johnson, including washing his car.
At the end of May, Mr. Walpin's office recommended that Mr. Johnson, an assistant and St. HOPE itself be "suspended" from receiving federal funds. The Corporation's official charged with suspensions agreed, and in September the suspension letters went out. Mr. Walpin's office also sent a civil and/or criminal referral to the U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of California.
So far, so normal. But that all changed last fall, when Mr. Johnson was elected mayor of Sacramento. News of the suspension had become public, and President Obama began to discuss his federal stimulus spending. A city-hired attorney pronounced in March that Sacramento might be barred from receiving stimulus funds because of Mr. Johnson's suspension.
The news caused a public uproar. The U.S. Attorney's office, which since January has been headed by Lawrence Brown -- a career prosecutor who took over when the Bush-appointed Attorney left -- had already decided not to pursue criminal charges. Media and political pressure then mounted for the office to settle the issue and lift Mr. Johnson's suspension. Mr. Walpin agreed Mr. Johnson should pay back money but objected to lifting the suspension. He noted that Mr. Johnson has never officially responded to the Corporation's findings and that the entire point of suspension is to keep federal funds from individuals shown to have misused them.
Mr. Brown's office responded by cutting off contact with Mr. Walpin's office and began working directly with the Corporation, the board of which is now chaired by one of Mr. Obama's top campaign fundraisers, Alan Solomont. A few days later, Mr. Brown's office produced a settlement draft that significantly watered down any financial repayment and cleared Mr. Johnson. Mr. Walpin told us that in all his time working with U.S. Attorneys on cases he'd referred, he'd never been cut out in such fashion.
Mr. Walpin brought his concerns to the Corporation's board, but some board members were angry over a separate Walpin investigation into the wrongful disbursement of $80 million to the City University of New York. Concerned about the St. HOPE mess, Mr. Walpin wrote a 29-page report, signed by two other senior members of his office, and submitted it in April to Congress. Last Wednesday, he got a phone call from a White House lawyer telling him to resign within an hour or be fired.
We've long disliked the position of inspectors general, on grounds that they are creatures of Congress designed to torment the executive. Yet this case appears to be one in which an IG was fired because he criticized a favorite Congressional and executive project (AmeriCorps), and refused to bend to political pressure to let the Sacramento mayor have his stimulus dollars.
There's also the question of how Mr. Walpin was terminated. He says the phone call came from Norman Eisen, the Special Counsel to the President for Ethics and Government Reform, who said the President felt it was time for Mr. Walpin to "move on," and that it was "pure coincidence" he was asked to leave during the St. HOPE controversy. Yet the Administration has already had to walk back that claim.
That's because last year Congress passed the Inspectors General Reform Act, which requires the President to give Congress 30 days notice, plus a reason, before firing an inspector general. A co-sponsor of that bill was none other than Senator Obama. Having failed to pressure Mr. Walpin into resigning (which in itself might violate the law), the Administration was forced to say he'd be terminated in 30 days, and to tell Congress its reasons.
White House Counsel Gregory Craig cited a complaint that had been lodged against Mr. Walpin by Mr. Brown, the U.S. Attorney, accusing Mr. Walpin of misconduct, and of not really having the goods on Mr. Johnson. But this is curious given that Mr. Brown himself settled with St. HOPE, Mr. Johnson and his assistant, an agreement that required St. HOPE (with a financial assist from Mr. Johnson) to repay approximately half of the grant, and also required Mr. Johnson to take an online course about bookkeeping.
Iowa Republican Chuck Grassley, a co-sponsor of the IG Reform Act, is now demanding that the Corporation hand over its communications on this mess. He also wants to see any contact with the office of First Lady Michelle Obama, who has taken a particular interest in AmeriCorps, and whose former chief of staff, Jackie Norris, recently arrived at the Corporation as a "senior adviser."
If this seems like small beer, keep in mind that Mr. Obama promised to carefully watch how every stimulus dollar is spent. In this case, the evidence suggests that his White House fired a public official who refused to roll over to protect a Presidential crony.
Printed in The Wall Street Journal, page A13
Copyright 2009 Dow Jones & Company, Inc. All Rights Reserved
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This is another investigation working its way through.
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are you shitting me straw, was the patriot act constitutional? pretty sure you bitched about it...but when obama continues it and actually furthers its end youre ok with it?
how about the govt being able to fire and appoint ppl to head public companies....you think thats constitutional as well i guess?
what public company are you talking about. Are you referring to ones that we bailed out and wouldn't still be in business otherwises?
are you kidding me? You're going to try to blaim Obama for the Patriot Act? I'm not happy that Obama is continuing anything that Bush has done but find some actual allegations, investigation and conclusion and then we'll have something to talk about.
btw - if you're going to get your panties in a knot over anything Obama is doing then show me the posts where you objected when Bush was doing those same things.
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Ton: Straw did not know about this. But add this to the list.
This is another investigation working its way through.
how about we wait until the investigation is actually done and see if the Obama Admin did anything wrong.
If Obama is found to have abused his power .....as Palin was found to have done....AND he then pretends the exact opposite.....then I will gladly join you in ridiculing him for being a liar just like Palin was in the the "troopergate" case (did you notice she tried to reframe it as "tasergate"?)
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how about we wait until the investigation is actually done and see if the Obama Admin did anything wrong.
If Obama is found to have abused his power .....as Palin was found to have done....AND he then pretends the exact opposite.....then I will gladly join you in ridiculing him for being a liar just like Palin was in the the "troopergate" case (did you notice she tried to reframe it as "tasergate"?)
Did she do anything illegal - YES or NO?
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Did she do anything illegal - YES or NO?
thats pretty poor logic.
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thats pretty poor logic.
Why? "Abused Power" is a subjective term unless its accompained with a legal ruling one way or the other on the merits.
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you said " DID SHE DO ANYTHING ILLEGAL? "
by that same logic, i guess we should give al gore a pass for buying up green energy stocks and propping up man made global warming rhetoric?
theres nothing illegal about what hes doing either.
yep. What hes doing is just fine and dandy.
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The first finding listed in the Branchflower Report:
1.Governor Sarah Palin abused her power as Governor in that her conduct violated AS 39.52.110(a) of the Ethics Act, which provides "The legislature reaffirms that each public officer holds office as a public trust, and any effort to benefit a personal or financial interest through official action is a violation of that trust."
Palin responded by saying, "About the Tasergate issue... I'm very very pleased to be cleared of any legal wrongdoing, any hint of any kind of unethical activity there."
For anyone who can read English the report clearly says that Palin abused the power of her office and her conduct violated the Ethics Act.
Palin thinks the report cleared of her of "ANY HINT Of ANY KIND OF UNETHICAL ACTVITY THERE"
Palins statement is a flat out LIE
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Wow, they did find that she abused her power. great find, straw man.
She didn't break the law, but she did show that she'll wipe her ass with ethics - just like Obama did with the rezco thing.
maybe in 2012 the GOP will pick a candidate that hasn't been officially found to have abused their power.
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brutal double standards shown by our resident lib, 333386
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Wow, they did find that she abused her power. great find, straw man.
She didn't break the law, but she did show that she'll wipe her ass with ethics - just like Obama did with the rezco thing.
maybe in 2012 the GOP will pick a candidate that hasn't been officially found to have abused their power.
not hard to find. It was all over the news at the time.
Time magazine did an article about how completely amatuerish the whole thing was handled by the Palin admin at the time.
Some excerpts:
But the Branchflower report still makes for good reading, if only because it convincingly answers a question nobody had even thought to ask: Is the Palin administration shockingly amateurish? Yes, it is. Disturbingly so.
A harsh verdict? Consider the report's findings. Not only did people at almost every level of the Palin administration engage in repeated inappropriate contact with Walt Monegan and other high-ranking officials at the Department of Public Safety, but Monegan and his peers constantly warned these Palin disciples that the contact was inappropriate and probably unlawful. Still, the emails and calls continued — in at least one instance on recorded state trooper phone lines.
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1849399,00.html
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brutal double standards shown by our resident lib, 333386
Hysterical coming from the same people who defended Clinton, even when he was shown to have violated the law and was disbarred.
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Hysterical coming from the same people who defended Clinton, even when he was shown to have violated the law and was disbarred.
ill ask you again. should we giv al gore a pass?
i dont want to hear a peep from you again about al gore, you lib.
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ill ask you again. should we giv al gore a pass?
i dont want to hear a peep from you again about al gore, you lib.
Unfortunately, he did nothing illegal. It may be slimy, but is not illegal.
however, what he deserves to be flogged for is his advocacy of a lie that he is seeking to use to enrich himself, regulate citizens' lives, etc.
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Hysterical coming from the same people who defended Clinton, even when he was shown to have violated the law and was disbarred.
nice act of desperation reaching back to Clinton
you might recall he was impeached
what's that got to do with Palin
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YOU KNOW 333386 IS BEAT WHEN HE CHANGES THE SUBJECT :'(
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Unfortunately, he did nothing illegal. It may be slimy, but is not illegal.
however, what he deserves to be flogged for is his advocacy of a lie that he is seeking to use to enrich himself, regulate citizens' lives, etc.
Was Gore accused of wrongdoing, investigated and found to be in violation of an ethics code and then pretended that the investigation reached the exact opposite result?
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Was Gore accused of wrongdoing, investigated and found to be in violation of an ethics code and then pretended that the investigation reached the exact opposite result?
Of course not, he was not in a position for that to happen in the first place.
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Of course not, he was not in a position for that to happen in the first place.
so there is absolutely no relevence to the so called "Troopergate" situation with Palin
Did you read that Time Magazine link I posted. Palin made no attempt to hide anything at the time even after being warned repeatedly that her actions were inappropriate
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Ok fine, what do you want? A Nobel Prize?
This dirtbag threateneed to kill her father, was a poacher, and tazed a 10 y/o.
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Ok fine, what do you want? A Nobel Prize?
This dirtbag threateneed to kill her father, was a poacher, and tazed a 10 y/o.
Like I said on the first page, Palin and everyone associated with her seem NUTTY to me and I'm certainly no defending any of that stuff. The worst of those three (IMO) is the Taser thing because he supposedly did it because the kid wanted to show off for Palins daughter. This whole family tree is wack. Palins sister marries this idiot and Palins other future in law is arrested for dealing meth?
WTF is up with this family?
Didn't the police investigate all those allegations?
Results of internal police investigation
On October 29, 2005, Sgt. Wall issued a Memorandum of Findings[26] describing the results of his investigation.
Death threat
Wall's investigation report dated October 29, 2005 found that Wooten violated internal policy, but not the law, in making a death threat against Molly McCann's father Heath on February 17, 2005. Molly McCann, Sarah Palin and Track Palin said that he made the threat. Wooten said that he didn't make the threat. Wall decided that he had in fact done so. Wall concluded that the death threat was not a crime because Wooten did not threaten the father directly; therefore, Wall deemed the threat to be a violation of trooper policy rather than a violation of criminal law. Although the death threat was listed as a violation of trooper policy OPM 101.070(A) Unbecoming Conduct and OPM 101.070(B) Personal Conduct in the Memorandum of Findings, it was not mentioned at all in the suspension letter[32] sent to Wooten by Col. Grimes on March 1, 2006.
Moose hunt
The investigation found that Wooten had committed a hunting violation in shooting a moose without a permit: he had been out hunting with McCann in September 2003 and had shot the animal himself even though their permit was in McCann's name only.[26] According to subsequent news reports, McCann had obtained the permit but balked at killing the moose herself, so she handed the gun to her then-husband, who shot the animal.[33]
Taser incidentWooten was also found to have violated department policy in using a Taser on his then 11-year old stepson in 2003. He told investigators that he did so "in a training capacity" after the child had asked to be tased. In a September 2008 newspaper interview, Wooten said that he set the Taser to "test" mode, meaning that it was on low power.[34][35] In a statement to police, the boy said "he wanted to be tased to show that he's not a mommy's boy in front of Bristol [his cousin, Palin's daughter]. Following being tased he went upstairs to tell his mother that he was fine."[21] In a statement to police, Molly McCann said "she was up stairs giving a bath to the kids … Mike was going to show Payton what it feels like and she told Mike that he better not."[21] According to Molly's account, she remained upstairs during the incident.
Although the Taser incident happened in 2003, it was not reported to police until on or after April 11, 2005, the day McCann filed for divorce. On June 6, 2005, a police investigator asked Bristol why they "waited so long and brought the incident up after two years." Bristol said "because of the divorce and stuff".[21][/color]
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FROM DRUDGE REPORT OLD FOOTAGE OF TROOPER
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what public company are you talking about. Are you referring to ones that we bailed out and wouldn't still be in business otherwises?
are you kidding me? You're going to try to blaim Obama for the Patriot Act? I'm not happy that Obama is continuing anything that Bush has done but find some actual allegations, investigation and conclusion and then we'll have something to talk about.
btw - if you're going to get your panties in a knot over anything Obama is doing then show me the posts where you objected when Bush was doing those same things.
Ive objected to the patriot act many times straw, how about you? im sure you have but now that obama is in its ok for him to not only continue but to FURTHER THE REACH OF THE PATRIOT ACT epic liberal rationalization.
simply b/c we bailed these companies out doesnt mean the govt gets to run them...
Im not blaming obama for the patriot act being created...but he has CONTINUED it and ADDED to it
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youre a fuking lost cause bro I dont know why I even try anymore you cant name one thing obama has done that you think is bad other than he is not liberal enough ::)
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Run Condi Rice in 2012....
unbeatable....
it'll leave black people confused as to whome to vote for...
for repbs..its a win win
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Ive objected to the patriot act many times straw, how about you? im sure you have but now that obama is in its ok for him to not only continue but to FURTHER THE REACH OF THE PATRIOT ACT epic liberal rationalization.
simply b/c we bailed these companies out doesnt mean the govt gets to run them...
Im not blaming obama for the patriot act being created...but he has CONTINUED it and ADDED to it
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youre a fuking lost cause bro I dont know why I even try anymore you cant name one thing obama has done that you think is bad other than he is not liberal enough ::)
are we still talking about abuse of power or something else.
I've mentioned Obama's continuationand expasion of some Bush policies MANY times when I'm accused of being cheerleader for the Administration. Unti there is some investigation and conclusion it doesn't mean shit
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Run Condi Rice in 2012....
unbeatable....
it'll leave black people confused as to whome to vote for...
for repbs..its a win win
We really dont know where she is on economics.
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We really dont know where she is on economics.
good point!...if she is a fiscal conservative...i'm in