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Title: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: kyomu on November 30, 2009, 02:01:06 PM

My weight keeps on increasing and bigger and bit dryer. But, I need more drastical change in this month. So I will drop my calory intake.   Paco said that i am changing. But, I dont see that much difference in my condition. But, I do see myself fuller.


Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: Mr Nobody on November 30, 2009, 02:05:07 PM
My weight keeps on increasing and bigger and bit dryer. But, I need more drastical change in this month. So I will drop my calory intake.   Paco said that i am changing. But, I dont see that much difference in my condition. But, I do see myself fuller.



This weel you look smoother but bigger, what was the change? Maybe need to drop calories for sure you have plenty of time.
Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: che on November 30, 2009, 02:06:00 PM
Don't be mad at me, but ,to be shredded you have at least  another 25 lbs to go .
Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: wavelength on November 30, 2009, 02:07:58 PM
Hard to say, you are pretty lean in some parts, not so much in others. I would agree that I can see another 20-25 lbs falling off.
Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: kyomu on November 30, 2009, 02:09:56 PM
Don't be mad at me, but ,to be shredded you have at least  another 25 lbs to go .
Pretty close i see 22lbs around.
Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: kyomu on November 30, 2009, 02:12:01 PM
This weel you look smoother but bigger, what was the change? Maybe need to drop calories for sure you have plenty of time.
After the diarrea that i told you, i increased carb intake drasticaly last week. maybe that is the factor.
So maybe more than the calory intake, i will keep on eating low carb and my weight is gonna go down i think.
Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: dov on November 30, 2009, 02:13:22 PM
Pretty close i see 22lbs around.
maybe to up the proteins more to 1200 grams would maybe help with bodybuilding is teh muscle. What thinks you about this advices?
Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: kyomu on November 30, 2009, 02:13:54 PM
Hard to say, you are pretty lean in some parts, not so much in others. I would agree that I can see another 20-25 lbs falling off.
My target weight is around 75kg-77kg.
So 22lbs. I agree with you guys.
Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: Mr Nobody on November 30, 2009, 02:15:05 PM
After the diarrea that i told you, i increased carb intake drasticaly last week. maybe that is the factor.
So maybe more than the calory intake, i will keep on eating low carb and my weight is gonna go down i think.
You look fuller and more muscular for sure but smoother, maybe just drop a bit of calories each each week and maintain the size. 13 weeks is still awhile to go.
Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: kyomu on November 30, 2009, 02:15:27 PM
maybe to up the proteins more to 1200 grams would maybe help with bodybuilding is teh muscle. What thinks you about this advices?
I ate less protein and more carb last week and it happened.(as i said, to recuperate from diarrea)
Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: dov on November 30, 2009, 02:16:51 PM
After the diarrea that i told you, i increased carb intake drasticaly last week. maybe that is the factor.
So maybe more than the calory intake, i will keep on eating low carb and my weight is gonna go down i think.
Me had KYUMO moment this weekend when I vomit and diareah after me accidentally swallered me dip! I was fliped! At first, it scared me out of shit, then I bite those arms!
Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: kyomu on November 30, 2009, 02:17:39 PM
You look fuller and more muscular for sure but smoother, maybe just drop a bit of calories each each week and maintain the size. 13 weeks is still awhile to go.
Thats exactly what i think. You have really good insight that you can judge it from this video only. I am amazed.
And i will do what you say and lets see the next week video.
Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: Mr Nobody on November 30, 2009, 02:20:13 PM
Thats exactly what i think. You have really good insight that you can judge it from this video only. I am amazed.
And i will do what you say and lets see the next week video.
Been there dude, actually I think you were getting too lean earlier too soon. Maintain as much size as you can gradually lowering calories...
Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: mwbbuilder on November 30, 2009, 02:24:04 PM
Let what you see guide you--not what you weigh.

You have no idea what the quality of muscle versus fat. Your weigth will fluctuate dramatically. I'm sure you weigh much less when you wake up in the morning.

Right now, you should only be looking for cuts and detail especially from the hammie and glutes area. Don't even waste your time looking at yourself from the front. If the hammie and glutes are detailed, the front will take of itself.
Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: kyomu on November 30, 2009, 02:26:09 PM
Been there dude, actually I think you were getting too lean earlier too soon. Maintain as much size as you can gradually lowering calories...
Thats what we are planning. I try to be suckin dry to the bone once even if my weight go down to 72kg way before the contest and gradualy i will be filled up until 75-77kg around. Then we assume i can get those juicers hard tight look.
How do you think?
Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: Kwon on November 30, 2009, 02:27:04 PM
Kyo is the muscle!

13 weeks to bring out the definition should be enough for our Ricecake-wrangler Extraordinaire! :)
Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: che on November 30, 2009, 02:27:20 PM
Let what you see guide you--not what you weigh.

You have no idea what the quality of muscle versus fat. Your weigth will fluctuate dramatically. I'm sure you weigh much less when you wake up in the morning.

Right now, you should only be looking for cuts and detail especially from the hammie and glutes area. Don't even waste your time looking at yourself from the front. If the hammie and glutes are detailed, the front will take of itself.

QFT


Just get shredded , judges don't care about how much you weight when you are on stage .
Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: kyomu on November 30, 2009, 02:31:25 PM
Let what you see guide you--not what you weigh.

You have no idea what the quality of muscle versus fat. Your weigth will fluctuate dramatically. I'm sure you weigh much less when you wake up in the morning.

Right now, you should only be looking for cuts and detail especially from the hammie and glutes area. Don't even waste your time looking at yourself from the front. If the hammie and glutes are detailed, the front will take of itself.
Thanx for your advise.
But dude, thats what i learned in 90s. ;)

And on this stage, still i hold lots of fat and losing fat while maintaining overall fullness is the key. Watching only glutes and hams for a guide is when my weight is below 77kg around.
Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: Mr Nobody on November 30, 2009, 02:32:09 PM
Thats what we are planning. I try to be suckin dry to the bone once even if my weight go down to 72kg way before the contest and gradualy i will be filled up until 75-77kg around. Then we assume i can get those juicers hard tight look.
How do you think?
Just not too early maybe 2 weeks out. You can still gain muscle at this point in your preparation, come in to shape at about 2 weeks and keep intensity up then drop water the last few days. You will do good, your size is better than the last show.
Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: kyomu on November 30, 2009, 02:32:44 PM
Kyo is the muscle!

13 weeks to bring out the definition should be enough for our Ricecake-wrangler Extraordinaire! :)
;D
Thanx as usual.
Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: kyomu on November 30, 2009, 02:37:06 PM
Just not too early maybe 2 weeks out. You can still gain muscle at this point in your preparation, come in to shape at about 2 weeks and keep intensity up then drop water the last few days. You will do good, your size is better than the last show.
Yes, i am way bigger. But, 2 weeks? I can be really cut but not shredded WITHOUT fullness.
So i want to have plenty of time to adjust those details. Too early for reaching peak? then I eat more and wait within good weight range. ;)
Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: mwbbuilder on November 30, 2009, 02:41:33 PM
If you are truly devoid of body fat (which I'm not sure you really get ripped), fullness is a manipulation of fluids.
Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: Mr Nobody on November 30, 2009, 02:41:59 PM
Yes, i am way bigger. But, 2 weeks? I can be really cut but not shredded WITHOUT fullness.
So i want to have plenty of time to adjust those details. Too early for reaching peak? then I eat more and wait within good weight range. ;)
Just dont start to early my friend size will suffer.
Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: Mr Nobody on November 30, 2009, 02:43:13 PM
You still have over 3 months.  No need for anything drastical.
X2 = especially as a Natural
Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: kyomu on November 30, 2009, 02:48:51 PM
Just dont start to early my friend size will suffer.
Anyway, the planning is planning.
thats why Paco and I are watching out for my physique through making this video.
And you can see it in real time too.
If we see my physique going really bad, of course, we change our plan. ;)
Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: Mr Nobody on November 30, 2009, 02:51:04 PM
Anyway, the planning is planning.
thats why Paco and I are watching out for my physique through making this video.
And you can see it in real time too.
If we see my physique going really bad, of course, we change our plan. ;)
No you are on target my on opinon better than last week more size, keep it up. Just gradual reduce calories.
Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: kyomu on November 30, 2009, 02:54:02 PM
No you are on target my on opinon better than last week more size, keep it up. Just gradual reduce calories.
Yeah. thanx. As you say, losing hard earned muscle without good plan is very stupid. ;)
Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: mwbbuilder on November 30, 2009, 02:57:43 PM
Yeah. thanx. As you say, losing hard earned muscle without good plan is very stupid. ;)

Subjecting yourself to anyone's opinion other than Paco's is verystupid.

You have no idea who we are, what we know, or what we don't know.

This only mess with your head.

Not a good plan to post these videos. But thanks for the entertainment! :)
Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: dov on November 30, 2009, 03:01:27 PM
Subjecting yourself to anyone's opinion other than Paco's is verystupid.

You have no idea who we are, what we know, or what we don't know.

This only mess with your head.

Not a good plan to post these videos. But thanks for the entertainment! :)
Def a lot of solid advices in this thraeds.
Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: kyomu on November 30, 2009, 03:05:11 PM
Subjecting yourself to anyone's opinion other than Paco's is verystupid.

You have no idea who we are, what we know, or what we don't know.

This only mess with your head.

Not a good plan to post these videos. But thanks for the entertainment! :)
Dont worry,I am a veteran. ;)
 I am just entertaining this.
And counting on your advise is more inteligent than subjecting myself to Pacos opinion? ;D Ok ok.
If you entertain this, please shut up and just watch and enjoy thread. ;)
Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: Bodybuilding Related on November 30, 2009, 03:07:16 PM
I think you're shaping up nicely for 13 weeks out Kyomu...I bet you're having great workouts right now.  Am I right? 
Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: mwbbuilder on November 30, 2009, 03:11:31 PM
Dont worry,I am a veteran. ;)
 I am just entertaining this.
And counting on your advise is more inteligent than subjecting myself to Pacos opinion? ;D Ok ok.
If you entertain this, please shut up and just watch and enjoy thread. ;)

You didn't translate what I wrote correctly.

I wrote ONLY listen to Paco's opinion.

And "veteran"? Ha ha. Your body speaks differently. I guess you are compared to GetBiggers. :)
Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: kyomu on November 30, 2009, 03:12:47 PM
I think you're shaping up nicely for 13 weeks out Kyomu...I bet you're having great workouts right now.  Am I right? 
Yes sir. Actualy, too great. And i am on the borderline of severe overtraining everyday.
Paco also. We get ill(feeling like flu) in the day off.
This week, Paco will go to Mexico for the seminar and i feel i am saved! ;D
Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on November 30, 2009, 03:21:04 PM
My weight keeps on increasing and bigger and bit dryer. But, I need more drastical change in this month. So I will drop my calory intake.   Paco said that i am changing. But, I dont see that much difference in my condition. But, I do see myself fuller.




Hmmmmmm, your weight keeps on increasing, you are drug free and dieting for the contest...?
You can't see any change, but Paco said that you are changing...
Great stuff so far...

Besides, who cares for fat, taka-maki, wants to be a bodybuilder, but entering fitness shows due to lack of muscle and being afraid of competition...

You, don't see much difference in your condition (which you assessed as needed to be DRASTICALLY CHANGED  ;D, and you need to drop the calories...Hmmmm, I wonder why?

Anyway, Rainbow roll...ease up on your supplements...Those could be accidentally or not so accidentally contaminated with REAL STAFF...so much so - that would make you afraid to accept the drug test challenge I gave you...

And BTW...you need to get in shape in the hurry?
Login on my board...free info ...as always...fatso...

Tell Paco to be honest...or to check his sight...(or both...)
Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on November 30, 2009, 03:23:39 PM
Hmmmmmm, your weight keeps on increasing, you are drug free and dieting for the contest...?
You can't see any change, but Paco said that you are changing...
Great stuff so far...

Besides, who cares for fat, taka-maki, wants to be a bodybuilder, but entering fitness shows due to lack of muscle and being afraid of competition...

You, don't see much difference in your condition (which you assessed as needed to be DRASTICALLY CHANGED  ;D, and you need to drop the calories...Hmmmm, I wonder why?

Anyway, Rainbow roll...ease up on your supplements...Those could be accidentally or not so accidentally contaminated with REAL STAFF...so much so - that would make you afraid to accept the drug test challenge I gave you...

And BTW...you need to get in shape in the hurry?
Login on my board...free info ...as always...fatso...

Tell Paco to be honest...or to check his sight...(or both...)


That wasn't a nice thing to say, Milos.
Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: mwbbuilder on November 30, 2009, 03:26:41 PM
Hmmmmmm, your weight keeps on increasing, you are drug free and dieting for the contest...?
You can't see any change, but Paco said that you are changing...
Great stuff so far...

Besides, who cares for fat, taka-maki, wants to be a bodybuilder, but entering fitness shows due to lack of muscle and being afraid of competition...

You, don't see much difference in your condition (which you assessed as needed to be DRASTICALLY CHANGED  ;D, and you need to drop the calories...Hmmmm, I wonder why?

Anyway, Rainbow roll...ease up on your supplements...Those could be accidentally or not so accidentally contaminated with REAL STAFF...so much so - that would make you afraid to accept the drug test challenge I gave you...

And BTW...you need to get in shape in the hurry?
Login on my board...free info ...as always...fatso...

Tell Paco to be honest...or to check his sight...(or both...)

Milos. You don't think THAT can be achieved without drugs?

I hope you are kidding!
Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: kyomu on November 30, 2009, 03:31:50 PM
Hmmmmmm, your weight keeps on increasing, you are drug free and dieting for the contest...?
You can't see any change, but Paco said that you are changing...
Great stuff so far...

Besides, who cares for fat, taka-maki, wants to be a bodybuilder, but entering fitness shows due to lack of muscle and being afraid of competition...

You, don't see much difference in your condition (which you assessed as needed to be DRASTICALLY CHANGED  ;D, and you need to drop the calories...Hmmmm, I wonder why?

Anyway, Rainbow roll...ease up on your supplements...Those could be accidentally or not so accidentally contaminated with REAL STAFF...so much so - that would make you afraid to accept the drug test challenge I gave you...

And BTW...you need to get in shape in the hurry?
Login on my board...free info ...as always...fatso...

Tell Paco to be honest...or to check his sight...(or both...)
Woa, you must know that your craziness is growing each time and you are spreading it by yourself. ;D
I will show this reply to everybody! Wahahahahhahahhahahahahh ahahhaaa!!!
Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: Kwon on November 30, 2009, 03:36:15 PM
Milos reply was quite funny and entertaining lol!

Not quite what was expected.
Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: kyomu on November 30, 2009, 03:36:58 PM
You didn't translate what I wrote correctly.

I wrote ONLY listen to Paco's opinion.

And "veteran"? Ha ha. Your body speaks differently. I guess you are compared to GetBiggers. :)
Dont talk to me anymore. I know you are just a fat guy.
Even if you envy me, you cant be me.
IF NOT, SHOW YOUR PIC.
AND I KNOW YOU CANT.
LOSER.
Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: mwbbuilder on November 30, 2009, 04:07:37 PM
Dont talk to me anymore. I know you are just a fat guy.
Even if you envy me, you cant be me.
IF NOT, SHOW YOUR PIC.
AND I KNOW YOU CANT.
LOSER.

Ha ha!

You are an official "Getbigger" now!

You have just recited the battle cry!

SHOW YOUR PIC

What does my picture have to do with your physique? Will that make you better or worse?
Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: Kwon on November 30, 2009, 04:10:05 PM
Ha ha!

You are an official "Getbigger" now!

You have just recited the battle cry!

SHOW YOUR PIC

What does my picture have to do with your physique? Will that make you better or worse?

Maybe your words will have more merit if you aren't a tinytit.
Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: mwbbuilder on November 30, 2009, 04:19:56 PM
Maybe your words will have more merit if you aren't a tinytit.

His body will look better if I'm a tiny tit???????

His body will look worse if I'm a stud??????

It will look the same either way. He's the one putting his physique up to be judge by all. Not me.

I don't need everyone's opinions of me to do my thing.

Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: uberman09 on November 30, 2009, 04:31:12 PM
i feel like i lost 10 billions neurones just from browsing thru this thread.
Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: Kwon on November 30, 2009, 05:04:52 PM
His body will look better if I'm a tiny tit???????

His body will look worse if I'm a stud??????

It will look the same either way. He's the one putting his physique up to be judge by all. Not me.

I don't need everyone's opinions of me to do my thing.

Well, why would he take advice from some random fat_guy?

At least a well trained individual should know what he is talking about (more credibility).

That is why he responded to you in that way with "SHow your Pic".

Not hard to figure out.
Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: 3Dkiller on November 30, 2009, 05:23:08 PM
looking good congrats keep it up o/
Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: kreator on December 01, 2009, 02:00:51 AM
paco will say everything to get you off his back
Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: dov on December 01, 2009, 04:34:49 AM
Woa, you must know that your craziness is growing each time and you are spreading it by yourself. ;D
I will show this reply to everybody! Wahahahahhahahhahahahahh ahahhaaa!!!
He call KYUMO a rainbow roll!? WTF?  KYUMO = solid natty physique

Why does this Milos guy speak of you in thiese manner?
Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: kyomu on December 01, 2009, 11:45:47 AM
looking good congrats keep it up o/
Thanx! ;)
Title: Re: Me 13 weeksout from Barcelona championships 84.5kg
Post by: kyomu on December 01, 2009, 11:47:42 AM
He call KYUMO a rainbow roll!? WTF?  KYUMO = solid natty physique

Why does this Milos guy speak of you in thiese manner?
Milos is the forever crazy fan of me. ;)