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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: lax on December 03, 2009, 06:15:53 AM
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at least on TV
the bros are always portrayed as firing handguns with a 'sideways' grip
why do they do this?
bc it is/looks cool?
It cannot possibly help their marksmanship?
perhaps 240 could offer his ballistic insights here?
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at least on TV
the bros are always portrayed as firing handguns with a 'sideways' grip
why do they do this?
bc it is/looks cool?
It cannot possibly help their marksmanship?
perhaps 240 could offer his ballistic insights here?
why do the Bros wear the hats only on the crown of their heads almost pointing up? most think its a "fashion statement". Same with the sideways grip, looks more "Gangsta".
and NO it doesnt help with your aim, at least not for me
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why do the Bros wear the hats only on the crown of their heads almost pointing up? most think its a "fashion statement". Same with the sideways grip, looks more "Gangsta".
and NO it doesnt help with your aim, at least not for me
how about that guy 'adibisi' on HBO's 'OZ'?
How in the hell did he ever get that hat to stay on his head like that?
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The sights are on top of a gun.
There's no way to aim at a target when your weapon is sideways because...no sights.
It's retarded.
I guess when you're shooting point blank or with a barrel against a temple...it really doesn't matter.
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Ha! Any excuse to bring in your racial prejudices!? Can't wait to see what's next: Black actors and their inability to use Stanislavsky method characterization.
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Ha! Any excuse to bring in your racial prejudices!? Can't wait to see what's next: Black actors and their inability to use Stanislavsky method characterization.
yes
I do wonder about bro actor's motivations.....
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Ha! Any excuse to bring in your racial prejudices!? Can't wait to see what's next: Black actors and their inability to use Stanislavsky method characterization.
its conservatism not racial prejudices :-\
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its conservatism not racial prejudices :-\
he knows not what he says....you know, avoiding truisms
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how about that guy 'adibisi' on HBO's 'OZ'?
How in the hell did he ever get that hat to stay on his head like that?
Adibisi was the fucking man... He was cool up to season 4 ( i think) when he wanted to take over the prison. Hit hat was classic
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How did cowboys fire from the hip back in the day?
Or did they? Was it just a movie-interpretation when two gunslingers duelled?
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How did cowboys fire from the hip back in the day?
Or did they? Was it just a movie-interpretation when two gunslingers duelled?
Fastest possible way to get a shot off.
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at least on TV
the bros are always portrayed as firing handguns with a 'sideways' grip
why do they do this?
bc it is/looks cool?
It cannot possibly help their marksmanship?
perhaps 240 could offer his ballistic insights here?
Its because that's the way they take it out of the box...
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at least on TV
the bros are always portrayed as firing handguns with a 'sideways' grip
why do they do this?
bc it is/looks cool?
It cannot possibly help their marksmanship?
perhaps 240 could offer his ballistic insights here?
and the used round has a big chance of lading on your arm and burning you apparently.
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Sideways grip is the correct way to fire a gun when you want to curve the bullet.
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Sideways grip is the correct way to fire a gun when you want to curve the bullet.
but you need the proper arm movement/arch to curve it properly
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but you need the proper arm movement/arch to curve it properly
It's science.
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at least on TV
the bros are always portrayed as firing handguns with a 'sideways' grip
why do they do this?
bc it is/looks cool?
It cannot possibly help their marksmanship?
perhaps 240 could offer his ballistic insights here?
It doesn't improve accuracy at all and had zero benefits. I've tried it at the range when I was in the military to see what the hype of this style was about.
If anything the recoil is kind of dangerous at that angle of fire. A weak wrist or grip and you'll drop that weapon and/or possibly shoot your damn self.
as far as movies...I've seen it used in so many movies nowadays it's ridiculous. All hype ...an average joe that goes to the range weekly would shoot their initials into a clown trying to look cool shooting like that straight up.
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weak wrists
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Weak wrists,sink ships
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but you need the proper arm movement/arch to curve it properly
yes, all true. Don't forget the proper trigger pull, at 50.567% of the movement.
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it's called a 'taco grip'.
it's good for keeping muzzle rise under control, but i doubt thats why you see it in the movies.
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How did cowboys fire from the hip back in the day?
Or did they? Was it just a movie-interpretation when two gunslingers duelled?
Gunslingers never duelled. That was a hollywood invention to memmick European duelling. Think about it, the Wild West had no code of conduct, and was the most lawless and violent time in American History ( funny hoe it was mostly white men doing on the killing, yet they are considered folk heroes, blacks today are demonized for being The Devil incarnate), do you really think that two gunslingers are gonna fairly have a gun duel in the streets?!
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Gunslingers never duelled. That was a hollywood invention to memmick European duelling. Think about it, the Wild West had no code of conduct, and was the most lawless and violent time in American History ( funny hoe it was mostly white men doing on the killing, yet they are considered folk heroes, blacks today are demonized for being The Devil incarnate), do you really think that two gunslingers are gonna fairly have a gun duel in the streets?!
um, yes?
it isn't a 'hollywood' invention.
there is so much stupid in this post i don't know where to start.
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Gunslingers never duelled. That was a hollywood invention to memmick European duelling. Think about it, the Wild West had no code of conduct, and was the most lawless and violent time in American History ( funny hoe it was mostly white men doing on the killing, yet they are considered folk heroes, blacks today are demonized for being The Devil incarnate), do you really think that two gunslingers are gonna fairly have a gun duel in the streets?!
Dear Parker,
the people of the wild west are considered heroes because they're killing Indians.
The black people today kill white people and are considered savages, just like the Indians of yesteryear (feather, not dot).
Hope this helps.
Also, I can curve a bullet when I shoot.
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um, yes?
it isn't a 'hollywood' invention.
there is so much stupid in this post i don't know where to start.
Uh, no. It was proven to be a proven Hollywood invetion. Was on the history channel. Two outlaws who cared not about law and order and one who probably shot the sheriff and the other who probably shot sheriff are not going to stand in the
middle of the street and face one another. Think about current shootouts, you are going try and shoot the person as quickly as possible.
Back then there was no code of duelling. And most cowboys were either Mexican or black, they were
farmhands. Not the Marlboro man stereotype.
And Manbearpig, the outlaws didn't care about Indians, they were outlaws. I forgot which city it was but it had the highest rate of murders than anywhere in the US, still. And the Undertakers in most WW towns had the best business, they would make a killing. the Indians didn't want encroachment, and felt threatened.
You do know that the US government broke every treaty they had with the Indians. And no not all Indian tribes were the good spirits, some lived off of raping and pilliaging, but you don't hear about them.
But let's not forget the fact that Pioneer America practically killed off the Buffalo population, the mountain population, the timber wolf pop, had exterminated the passager pigeon and the Carolina Parakeet. Among other things.
And let's not forget, that many of the WW outlaws teamed up with hostile Indians to do robberies,and killings.
Think about now and currentn
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Offhand, it's because it's a comfortable stance for a non-pistol shooter, it's almost like the finishing position of a punch with a pistol in your hand. In fact, if you watch these gangsters shoot, it almost like they jab the air with the gun.
Shooting stances are a funny thing, if you look at it through the ages, we go from a sideways dueling stace early on. From the start of the 20th century till the fifties, most favored a low squat stance with a one-handed grip. The transition to a two handed grip was only for long distance shots or if one had time to set up a shot. There was also more of emphasis on point-shooting, where you think of the gun as an extension of your wrist and hand/index finger and point it where you want the shot to go.
It was'nt till the 60's when the emphesis was placed on the "Weaver Stance" style of shooting, as it is more accurate, controls muzzle flip, and is a solider platform for follow up shots.
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They even did it on the simpsons, i think brothas think its part of their swagger
(http://www.pixplzthx.com/albums/host/simpsons_gun_sideways_01.jpg)
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Spot on, BB.
gangster style, completely flat, is poor.
standard shooting, completely parallel to the ground, is useful at long distances where sighting is required.
For close (7 yards or less) combative shooting, however, shooting with a 45 degree angle, a half-cant, does compliment the natural angle of the arm. Kinda the way you punch at an angle. You wouldn't punch with a sideways, nor a completely vertical punch. You'd use that angled fist.
Shooting quickly in combat in close range is similar to that. You're actually going to hit more with a 1/2 gangster style stance.
Lax, when that dude grabbed your handful of cash as you walked out the bank, you would hav wanted to use that 45 degree, 1/2 gangster flick to put two in his midsection as he collided with you and you pulled him earthward. Only one of you would be getting back up ;)
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Lax, when that dude grabbed your handful of cash as you walked out the bank, you would hav wanted to use that 45 degree, 1/2 gangster flick to put two in his midsection as he collided with you and you pulled him earthward. Only one of you would be getting back up ;)
Ha! Moose's editor had resign over having published that story. ;)
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Gunslingers never duelled. That was a hollywood invention to memmick European duelling. Think about it, the Wild West had no code of conduct, and was the most lawless and violent time in American History ( funny hoe it was mostly white men doing on the killing, yet they are considered folk heroes, blacks today are demonized for being The Devil incarnate), do you really think that two gunslingers are gonna fairly have a gun duel in the streets?!
Spot on! most with a ' reputation ' for gun fighting would avoid each other like the plague. most of the gun violence was fueled by the alcohol they consumed not this watered down nonsense they drink today ! but some historic gun fights were legit like the O.K corral and a few others but they were few and far in between
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Spot on! most with a ' reputation ' for gun fighting would avoid each other like the plague. most of the gun violence was fueled by the alcohol they consumed not this watered down nonsense they drink today ! but some historic gun fights were legit like the O.K corral and a few others but they were few and far in between
And even that event wasn't out on the street. It was in kind of a side thingy. And using shotguns. Romanticism.
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;D
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Uh, no. It was proven to be a proven Hollywood invetion. Was on the history channel. Two outlaws who cared not about law and order and one who probably shot the sheriff and the other who probably shot sheriff are not going to stand in the
middle of the street and face one another. Think about current shootouts, you are going try and shoot the person as quickly as possible.
Back then there was no code of duelling. And most cowboys were either Mexican or black, they were
farmhands. Not the Marlboro man stereotype.
And Manbearpig, the outlaws didn't care about Indians, they were outlaws. I forgot which city it was but it had the highest rate of murders than anywhere in the US, still. And the Undertakers in most WW towns had the best business, they would make a killing. the Indians didn't want encroachment, and felt threatened.
You do know that the US government broke every treaty they had with the Indians. And no not all Indian tribes were the good spirits, some lived off of raping and pilliaging, but you don't hear about them.
But let's not forget the fact that Pioneer America practically killed off the Buffalo population, the mountain population, the timber wolf pop, had exterminated the passager pigeon and the Carolina Parakeet. Among other things.
And let's not forget, that many of the WW outlaws teamed up with hostile Indians to do robberies,and killings.
Think about now and currentn
i was just being a racist, calm down.
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Uh, no. It was proven to be a proven Hollywood invetion. Was on the history channel. Two outlaws who cared not about law and order and one who probably shot the sheriff and the other who probably shot sheriff are not going to stand in the
middle of the street and face one another. Think about current shootouts, you are going try and shoot the person as quickly as possible.
Back then there was no code of duelling. And most cowboys were either Mexican or black, they were
farmhands. Not the Marlboro man stereotype.
And Manbearpig, the outlaws didn't care about Indians, they were outlaws. I forgot which city it was but it had the highest rate of murders than anywhere in the US, still. And the Undertakers in most WW towns had the best business, they would make a killing. the Indians didn't want encroachment, and felt threatened.
You do know that the US government broke every treaty they had with the Indians. And no not all Indian tribes were the good spirits, some lived off of raping and pilliaging, but you don't hear about them.
But let's not forget the fact that Pioneer America practically killed off the Buffalo population, the mountain population, the timber wolf pop, had exterminated the passager pigeon and the Carolina Parakeet. Among other things.
And let's not forget, that many of the WW outlaws teamed up with hostile Indians to do robberies,and killings.
Think about now and currentn
There actually was it's called the code duello and many gentlemen followed it well before the wild west in the United States ( although illegal and considered barbaric ) , see the Burr/Hamilton duel hahahahah secretary of the state and the vice-fucking president dueling at dawn imagine that shit in this day and age?
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Two reasons I can think of
why black people shoot like
that.
No need for accuracy in a drive-by.
Spray and pray.
Also, in order to fit the hand and
gun through the smallest possible
opening in the bullet proof window,
you have to hold it sideways.
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Spot on, BB.
gangster style, completely flat, is poor.
standard shooting, completely parallel to the ground, is useful at long distances where sighting is required.
For close (7 yards or less) combative shooting, however, shooting with a 45 degree angle, a half-cant, does compliment the natural angle of the arm. Kinda the way you punch at an angle. You wouldn't punch with a sideways, nor a completely vertical punch. You'd use that angled fist.
Shooting quickly in combat in close range is similar to that. You're actually going to hit more with a 1/2 gangster style stance.
Lax, when that dude grabbed your handful of cash as you walked out the bank, you would hav wanted to use that 45 degree, 1/2 gangster flick to put two in his midsection as he collided with you and you pulled him earthward. Only one of you would be getting back up ;)
240...before coming to this site...I was pretty much against guns. YOU and your posts about guns have changed my mind. Yes...I would have aerated him