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Ya had to have known this was coming! She later backtracked on her facebook page, once her advisers asked her "WTF?"
In a radio appearance Thursday, former Alaska governor and GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin said questions about President Obama's birth certificate -- a spurious attempt to argue that he's not a US citizen and thus ineligible for President -- are fair game for debate.
HUMPHRIES: Sarah Palin here on the Rusty Humphries Show. One of the questions Jason asks is would you make the birth certificate an issue if you ran?
PALIN: I think the public rightly is still making it an issue. I don’t have a problem with that. I don’t know if I would have to bother to make it an issue because I think there are enough members of the electorate that still want answers.
HUMPHRIES: Do you think it’s a fair question to be looking at?
PALIN: I think it’s a fair question just like I think past associations and past voting records. All of that is fair game. You know, I’ve got to tell you too, I think our campaign, the McCain-Palin campaign didn’t do a good enough job in that area. We didn’t call out Obama and some of his associates on their records and what their beliefs were, and perhaps what their future plans were, and I don’t think that was fair to voters to not have done our job as candidates and a campaign to bring to light a lot of things that now we’re seeing manifest in the administration.
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she
doesnt want to cant alienate her base
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hahaha she's a crazy! Yes the United States has such a poor vetting process that they allow non American born citizens to not only run for Prez but to be Prez.
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hahaha she's a crazy! Yes the United States has such a poor vetting process that they allow non American born citizens to not only run for Prez but to be Prez.
Where is the long form BC you morons and why has Obama spent one million dollars keeping it secret?
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"PALIN: I think the public rightly is still making it an issue. "
if she runs in 2012, this statement is going to come up over and over in the general election. And you can bet they'll be putting Palins face up next to the crazy orally Tate lady as well. She might as well said she doubts the official 911 story lol...
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Where is the long form BC you morons and why has Obama spent one million dollars keeping it secret?
So you think the CIA, the FBI, the state of Hawaii and the Secret Service are all incompetent enough to allow a foreign born president?
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So you think the CIA, the FBI, the state of Hawaii and the Secret Service are all incompetent enough to allow a foreign born president?
KC - why has obama spent over 1 Million Dollars keeping his records secret?
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So you think the CIA, the FBI, the state of Hawaii and the Secret Service are all incompetent enough to allow a foreign born president?
Another thing - you are the same guy on another thread who called the SS incompetent for letting the gate crashers through. Unreal.
Why has he spent 1 million dollars keeping his records secret?
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333 you know that none of this libs on here will answer that question lol , it makes their commie hero look bad , they will always do the typical liberal thing... deny, pass blame, and change the subject as fast as possible
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"Why has he spent 1 million dollars keeping his records secret?"
probably because it says 'muslim' or somehting along those lines, and you know that will cost some votes form ignorant ass people who believe a child, at 2 hours old, has the choice of religion at that point.
either way, Palin's first 2 weeks of book tour have been awesome. I remember the instant leash Mccain put on her after she agreed another investigation into 911 woudl be a good idea... and now she is officially a birther. I love it!!
BTW, 33, you are focusing on all the wrong shit about the birther thing. Read up on FR, man. They have far more convincing arguments than "Obama spent a million bucks, so he's guilty". I love your passion on things, but when it comes to some CTs, you're a mile wide and an inch thick. You know your shit on cap/trade and other issues... but on 911 and the birther issue, if you read into them deeply you'd probably see some smoking guns that really will open up eyes. Instead, you just dismiss "letting 911 happen" as nonsense despite a lot of evidence to the contrary, and you belittle the birther thing with the weakest possible piece of evidence.
either way, i love you brother and its obvious i've had enough alcohol tonight :)
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"Why has he spent 1 million dollars keeping his records secret?"
probably because it says 'muslim' or somehting along those lines, and you know that will cost some votes form ignorant ass people who believe a child, at 2 hours old, has the choice of religion at that point.
either way, Palin's first 2 weeks of book tour have been awesome. I remember the instant leash Mccain put on her after she agreed another investigation into 911 woudl be a good idea... and now she is officially a birther. I love it!!
BTW, 33, you are focusing on all the wrong shit about the birther thing. Read up on FR, man. They have far more convincing arguments than "Obama spent a million bucks, so he's guilty". I love your passion on things, but when it comes to some CTs, you're a mile wide and an inch thick. You know your shit on cap/trade and other issues... but on 911 and the birther issue, if you read into them deeply you'd probably see some smoking guns that really will open up eyes. Instead, you just dismiss "letting 911 happen" as nonsense despite a lot of evidence to the contrary, and you belittle the birther thing with the weakest possible piece of evidence.
either way, i love you brother and its obvious i've had enough alcohol tonight :)
I have asked you for the best evidence of a 9/11 CT thats is logical, coherent, and not conflicting, and still have not gotten it. If its the Bush let it happen bit, well, you have to then say that that many others are in on it too since those reports see many eyes before geting to the prezs' desk.
As far as the birther issue, I know all the details of that, but know that many here really dont want that level of detail.
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I have asked you for the best evidence of a 9/11 CT thats is logical, coherent, and not conflicting, and still have not gotten it.
That's because what you want doesn't exist.
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With Huckabee's latest scandal, Palin could've gained new ground and redeemed herself from her many missteps over the past year. It seems like she's deliberately shooting herself in the foot.
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KC - why has obama spent over 1 Million Dollars keeping his records secret?
who did you copy this line from?
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who did you copy this line from?
Myself, its the truth and there still is not an answer to it. I have asked it for almost a year now.
Straw - why is obama spending over a million in legal fees to hide the long form BC?
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Myself, its the truth and there still is not an answer to it. I have asked it for almost a year now.
Straw - why is obama spending over a million in legal fees to hide the long form BC?
ok - where did you get this figure from?
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Straw - why is obama spending over a million in legal fees to hide the long form BC?
The answer is very simple and has nothing to do with the truth.
If you know that there's a large group of people that are after you for something that could potentially create huge problems for yourself, your party and your country, it's only common sense thing that you could do is employ a group of lawyers to protect you. Even if you have nothing to hide its the prudent thing to do.
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The answer is very simple and has nothing to do with the truth.
If you know that there's a large group of people that are after you for something that could potentially create huge problems for yourself, your party and your country, it's only common sense thing that you could do is employ a group of lawyers to protect you. Even if you have nothing to hide its the prudent thing to do.
Not true. there is definately info on there he wants hidden. Probably that he is a muslim.
Why elese would anyone spend that kind of money to keep their BC secret?
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Not true. there is definately info on there he wants hidden. Probably that he is a muslim.
Why elese would anyone spend that kind of money to keep their BC secret?
How do you know? You are talking about large power groups like the RP after you. You'd be a complete idiot not to have a legal team. And further more, 1 million? Sounds like a standard price considering the client. But you may know much more about that then me.
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Not true. there is definately info on there he wants hidden. Probably that he is a muslim.
Why elese would anyone spend that kind of money to keep their BC secret?
I can't believe you're wasting your time with this when there are so many up and coming CTs' that you could drive yourself crazy with.
If it matters, the longform/short form argument is nonsense and the whole birther thing is just more proof that you're quite likely a complete loon. You know, crazy people can't actually tell when they're crazy so it's up the the rest of us sane people to point it out.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2009/jul/01/obamas-birth-certificate-final-chapter-time-we-mea/
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I can't believe you're wasting your time with this when there are so many up and coming CTs' that you could drive yourself crazy with.
If it matters, the longform/short form argument is nonsense and the whole birther thing is just more proof that you're quite likely a complete loon. You know, crazy people can't actually tell when they're crazy so it's up the the rest of us sane people to point it out.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2009/jul/01/obamas-birth-certificate-final-chapter-time-we-mea/
Ok jackass, Straw Man,. which fits you perfectly because that is all you present, is bogus crap, its not just the BC he has not released, its everything.
Can you please give me one cogent, logical, reasonable, and understandable reason why the following have not been released? Just one Straw? Come on, give me one damn reason why the following have never been released?
Obama's records that are not released.
1. Occidental College records -- Not released
2. Columbia College records -- Not released
3. Columbia Thesis paper -- 'not available'
4. Harvard College records -- Not released
5. Selective Service Registration -- Not released
6. Medical records -- Not released
7. Illinois State Senate schedule -- 'not available'
8. Law practice client list -- Not released
9. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate - - Not released
10. Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth -- Not released
11. Harvard Law Review articles published -- None
12. University of Chicago scholarly articles -- None
13. Your Record of baptism-- Not released or 'not available'
14. Your Illinois State Senate records--'not available'
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Ok jackass, Straw Man,. which fits you perfectly because that is all you present, is bogus crap, its not just the BC he has not released, its everything.
Can you please give me one cogent, logical, reasonable, and understandable reason why the following have not been released? Just one Straw? Come on, give me one damn reason why the following have never been released?
Obama's records that are not released.
1. Occidental College records -- Not released
2. Columbia College records -- Not released
3. Columbia Thesis paper -- 'not available'
4. Harvard College records -- Not released
5. Selective Service Registration -- Not released
6. Medical records -- Not released
7. Illinois State Senate schedule -- 'not available'
8. Law practice client list -- Not released
9. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate - - Not released
10. Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth -- Not released
11. Harvard Law Review articles published -- None
12. University of Chicago scholarly articles -- None
13. Your Record of baptism-- Not released or 'not available'
14. Your Illinois State Senate records--'not available'
I thought we were talking about his BC
did you even read the link dumbass?
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Medical records are you f-ing kidding me?
Why should any of this shit be released?
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Medical records are f-ing kidding me?
Why should any of this shit be released?
exactly - he's got the same right to privacy concerning his medical records that anyone else has
no CT necessary
and his physician did actually release some infor during the campaign.
of course 333 won't be satisfied unless he gets to peform the colonoscopy himself
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LOl great thread
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Medical records are you f-ing kidding me?
Why should any of this shit be released?
Dont you think if the president has cancer, has diabetes, has a massive heart condition, or has other situations that maty result in a premature death that is relevent?
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Dont you think if the president has cancer, has diabetes, has a massive heart condition, or has other situations that maty result in a premature death that is relevent?
they only release that shit when they're trying to use it to their benefit to try to prove they're not about to drop dead (which is the reason McCain did it in 2008).
Can you tell us any legal requirement for them to release their personal medical info to the public?
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they only release that shit when they're trying to use it to their benefit to try to prove they're not about to drop dead (which is the reason McCain did it in 2008).
Can you tell us any legal requirement for them to release their personal medical info to the public?
Of course not, but it has been cutomary to do so. That coupled with all the other records he wont release leave the impression that he has something to hide.
Imagine if in 2012 Palin did the same thing? you would be the first one to scream holy hell over it.
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Of course not, but it has been cutomary to do so. That coupled with all the other records he wont release leave the impression that he has something to hide.
Imagine if in 2012 Palin did the same thing? you would be the first one to scream holy hell over it.
Did Palin release medical records in 2008?
dude - you don't even know what I'm going to say about anything TODAY so why would you know what I'm going to do in the future.
I was against all the shit about Palins baby when it was being posted on this site an I couldn't give less of a shit about her records or anyone elses. (correction - I would be curious to see a complete physcological evaluation of you )
Do you think it's possible for you to discuss Obama without bring up Palin?
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Palin didn't relase hers in 2008, and probably won't in 2012. candidates only release small one-liners about cancer (rudy and thompson last year). Mccain was pressured because he was 4x cancer with a big growth on his face, and mysterious band-aids where he 'bumped himself again' right where he had past cancers. He was probably getting continued treatment, which is fine, but a lot of voters are going to reject that.
Lots of candidate hide their history - some hide very serious thigns. But 33, palin didn't disclose hers, and probably won't next time in 2012. it's how things are
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Did Palin release medical records in 2008?
dude - you don't even know what I'm going to say about anything TODAY so why would you know what I'm going to do in the future.
I was against all the shit about Palins baby when it was being posted on this site an I couldn't give less of a shit about her records or anyone elses. (correction - I would be curious to see a complete physcological evaluation of you )
Do you think it's possible for you to discuss Obama without bring up Palin?
That's easy to find out. i will look at all of 240's million posts on it and see if you disagreed with it.
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Palin didn't relase hers in 2008, and probably won't in 2012. candidates only release small one-liners about cancer (rudy and thompson last year). Mccain was pressured because he was 4x cancer with a big growth on his face, and mysterious band-aids where he 'bumped himself again' right where he had past cancers. He was probably getting continued treatment, which is fine, but a lot of voters are going to reject that.
Lots of candidate hide their history - some hide very serious thigns. But 33, palin didn't disclose hers, and probably won't next time in 2012. it's how things are
I believe Bush and Clinton did, but I may be wrong.
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Palin didn't relase hers in 2008, and probably won't in 2012. candidates only release small one-liners about cancer (rudy and thompson last year). Mccain was pressured because he was 4x cancer with a big growth on his face, and mysterious band-aids where he 'bumped himself again' right where he had past cancers. He was probably getting continued treatment, which is fine, but a lot of voters are going to reject that.
Lots of candidate hide their history - some hide very serious thigns. But 33, palin didn't disclose hers, and probably won't next time in 2012. it's how things are
It seems odd that 333 would have his panties in a twist of Obama and never mention that Palin hasn't released her records either.
Did she release copy of her birth certficate?
We know that she, her staff and husband refused to comply with subpoeana's in the troopergate investigation but I don't recall seeing 333 having a problem with that either
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most candidates get a 1-paragraph release from their doctor. that's it.
There are a TON of people who would have loved to read "HPV' or "baby proof" from palin's, just as there are plenty who would have loved to say "oh, obama had mono, what's that all about!!"
Remember the guy who almost won in 92 who had cancer that got him a few years later? Historically, lots of guys just figure once they get in office, the country will keep them alive!
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She was found to have not broken the law in that case.
As far as her medical records, she is just following Obama's lead on that.
As far as the site you sent me to, more broken promises from the fool you supported.
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Obameter finds more promises Stalled
By Bill Adair
Published on Thursday, December 3rd, 2009 at 6:17 p.m.
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Lately, several promises have been rated Stalled.
As we explore President Barack Obama's campaign promises (all 514 of them!), the Obameter is seeing more red.
We're busily trying to update all of the promises by Jan. 20, the one-year mark of his presidency, and are now digging into some of his more obscure pledges. As we do, we've found a fair number with little or no action.
Among the recent ones:
• His pledge to raise the minimum wage to $9.50 an hour. He has until 2011 to do that, but we've seen no action so far and have rated it Stalled.
• His promise to cut the cost of a typical family's health care premium by up to $2,500 a year. Another Stalled.
• His promise to spend at least $50 billion by 2013 for the global fight against HIV/AIDS. That too has earned a Stalled.
We should note that the needle on the Obameter can move up and down, and it's possible that a promise that earns a Stalled today could still ultimately be a Promise Kept. But our experience is that Stalled items more likely move to Promise Broken.
We'll be following them all, so stay tuned.
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"As far as her medical records, she is just following Obama's lead on that"
No, she's following historical precedent.
Stop blaming Obama for shit he didn't do lol... Shit on him for captrade or the stimulus or GS. But blaming Obama because palin didn't release proof of birth? hahaha come on, you lose credibilty on issues where you currently have some.
Reminds me of John Boenner. His job is to come out following every obama action or speech, and talk about what a terrible move that was. No matter what. Even when it's a good move, you know what he's gonna say. Obama blew it big time here, and the R's would have done it better.
I don't consider his opinion valuable, because he's going to say Obama was wrong no matter what.
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The fake tan is a no no for me IMHO.
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She was found to have not broken the law in that case.
As far as her medical records, she is just following Obama's lead on that.
As far as the site you sent me to, more broken promises from the fool you supported.
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yeah but she was found to have violated the ethics code, abused the power of her office and didn't comply with request for information from herself, her staff or her husband....haven't we been over this already?
BTW - you're saying that Palin specifically didn't release her medical records because she was following Obama's lead?
Why not follow the lead of her running mate instead ?
You're aware that you just sound dumber and dumber every time you make another post on this thread right?
http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2008/05/obama_releases_health_informat.html
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exactly - he's got the same right to privacy concerning his medical records that anyone else has
no CT necessary
and his physician did actually release some infor during the campaign.
of course 333 won't be satisfied unless he gets to peform the colonoscopy himself
Yeah, whatever, do you even read the crap you link to?
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Obama releases medical information: "excellent health."
By Lynn Sweeton May 29, 2008 10:54 AM | Permalink | Comments (30)
WASHINGTON--Likely Democratic nominee Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) is in "excellent health," according to a summary of Obama medical records released on Thursday. The 276-word summary was written by Dr. David L. Scheiner, the Chicago doctor who has been Obama's personal physician since March, 1987. Obama has not had a check-up in more than a year. Scheiner described Obama as "lean and muscular with no excess body fat." Obama is still using Nicorette gum to stay off cigarettes--he has quit smoking several times, his doctor notes.
HIghlights:
*Triglycerides of 44(normal under 150), cholesterol 173 (normal under 200), HDL 68 (normal over 40), and LDL 96 (normal under 130). Chem 24, urinalysis and CBC were normal, PSA was 0.6, very good. An EKG was normal.
The Obama campaign decided to release this summary of Obama's health status at this time to contrast with the long medical history of GOP presumptive nominee Sen. John McCain (R-Az.). The McCain campaign last week allowed a select group of reporters to study McCain's more complex medical history, complicated because of his skin cancer and injuries suffered while serving in the military and as a prisoner of
war in Viet Nam.click below for full Scheiner letter....
from the Obama campaign....
Below and attached is a letter from Senator Obama’s physician detailing a summary of his health records.
DAVID L. SCHEINER, M.D.
Hyde Park Associates in Medicine, Ltd.
1515 East 52nd Place, Chicago, IL 60615
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Yeah, whatever, do you even read the crap you link to?
________________________ ________________________ ___________
Obama releases medical information: "excellent health."
By Lynn Sweeton May 29, 2008 10:54 AM | Permalink | Comments (30)
WASHINGTON--Likely Democratic nominee Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) is in "excellent health," according to a summary of Obama medical records released on Thursday. The 276-word summary was written by Dr. David L. Scheiner, the Chicago doctor who has been Obama's personal physician since March, 1987. Obama has not had a check-up in more than a year. Scheiner described Obama as "lean and muscular with no excess body fat." Obama is still using Nicorette gum to stay off cigarettes--he has quit smoking several times, his doctor notes.
HIghlights:
*Triglycerides of 44(normal under 150), cholesterol 173 (normal under 200), HDL 68 (normal over 40), and LDL 96 (normal under 130). Chem 24, urinalysis and CBC were normal, PSA was 0.6, very good. An EKG was normal.
The Obama campaign decided to release this summary of Obama's health status at this time to contrast with the long medical history of GOP presumptive nominee Sen. John McCain (R-Az.). The McCain campaign last week allowed a select group of reporters to study McCain's more complex medical history, complicated because of his skin cancer and injuries suffered while serving in the military and as a prisoner of
war in Viet Nam.click below for full Scheiner letter....
from the Obama campaign....
Below and attached is a letter from Senator Obama’s physician detailing a summary of his health records.
DAVID L. SCHEINER, M.D.
Hyde Park Associates in Medicine, Ltd.
1515 East 52nd Place, Chicago, IL 60615
of course I read it
nothing you highlighted is a problem
where are Palins records?
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Dont you think if the president has cancer, has diabetes, has a massive heart condition, or has other situations that maty result in a premature death that is relevent?
Has that standard ever been set of other president? Is that what every president is required to do? Release their medical records to the public? Has every president done just that?
Again, yours is a weak irrelevant argument as you list all that info that hasn't been released and use that to attack or criticize him.
That what makes your message impotent to his supporters. With crap like comparing Obama to Stalin because they were both community organizers is why many times your arguments aren't taken seriously. Yet you can't see that, and instead label them as typical libs and continue to be frustrated.
And don't bring up crap and trade. ;)
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Has that standard ever been set of other president? Is that what every president is required to do? Release their medical records to the public? Has every president done just that?
Again, yours is a weak irrelevant argument as you list all that info that hasn't been released and use that to attack or criticize him.
That what makes your message impotent to his supporters. With crap like comparing Obama to Stalin because they were both community organizers is why many times your arguments aren't taken seriously. Yet you can't see that, and instead label them as typical libs and continue to be frustrated.
And don't bring up crap and trade. ;)
Ozmo - the problem is that he has no experience anywhere else to base anything upon. Its not like he has a long voting record, other than being the most liberal senator in the Senate for the 1 year he was there. His record in the State Senate is also largely a fog and the one issue that got most attention was that abortion situation where looked like crap.
The man is completely an empty book with nothing between the covers. So, what do we have to go on other than that which has not been released and other stuff like this? Its not like he ran a business or state, or even was a mayor of a small town.
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Ozmo - the problem is that he has no experience anywhere else to base anything upon. Its not like he has a long voting record, other than being the most liberal senator in the Senate for the 1 year he was there. His record in the State Senate is also largely a fog and the one issue that got most attention was that abortion situation where looked like crap.
The man is completely an empty book with nothing between the covers. So, what do we have to go on other than that which has not been released and other stuff like this? Its not like he ran a business or state, or even was a mayor of a small town.
So because he doesn't meet your standards (which are based on your bias) he should be held to a higher scrutiny separate from all other presidents of the past?
I restate my previous post:
Again, yours is a weak irrelevant argument as you list all that info that hasn't been released and use that to attack or criticize him.
That what makes your message impotent to his supporters. With crap like comparing Obama to Stalin because they were both community organizers is why many times your arguments aren't taken seriously. Yet you can't see that, and instead label them as typical libs and continue to be frustrated.
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Ozmo - his supporters will support him just like the clinton ones did. Until the Blue Dress came out, it was all the VRWC. The same is true now.
Look, I think I have posted enough stuff, even from liberal sources exposing Obama for what he is. The Matt Taibii video I posted the other day was brutal. Notice how Straw, Mons, KC, Blacken, Nicky, 240 - were SILENT on that? That video alone should be enough for any reasonable person to see what is going on.
I posted articles about the back room deals with the drug companies that screw us over so that they wont protest ObamaCare. Those were from the Huff Post. Silence as usual.
I dont expect to sway Obama supporters since they are utterly smitten with his garbage no matter how bad it is.
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Ozmo - his supporters will support him just like the clinton ones did.
And BUSH's supporters did the same thing. So what?
Look, I think I have posted enough stuff, even from liberal sources exposing Obama for what he is. The Matt Taibii video I posted the other day was brutal. Notice how Straw, Mons, KC, Blacken, Nicky, 240 - were SILENT on that? That video alone should be enough for any reasonable person to see what is going on.
I knew the guy was a extreme socialist with major idealistic ideas. That's what happens when we swing one way too much...we inevitably swing back the to the other extreme. That doesn't justify your different standard you expect from him.
I posted articles about the back room deals with the drug companies that screw us over so that they wont protest ObamaCare. Those were from the Huff Post. Silence as usual.
Yeah, and the JACK ASS repubs couldn't come up with an alternative plan. NOT ONE FUCKING PLAN.
I dont expect to sway Obama supporters since they are utterly smitten with his garbage no matter how bad it is.
Again, so what? So were BUSH drones.
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Ozmo - his supporters will support him just like the clinton ones did. Until the Blue Dress came out, it was all the VRWC. The same is true now.
Look, I think I have posted enough stuff, even from liberal sources exposing Obama for what he is. The Matt Taibii video I posted the other day was brutal. Notice how Straw, Mons, KC, Blacken, Nicky, 240 - were SILENT on that? That video alone should be enough for any reasonable person to see what is going on.
I posted articles about the back room deals with the drug companies that screw us over so that they wont protest ObamaCare. Those were from the Huff Post. Silence as usual.
I dont expect to sway Obama supporters since they are utterly smitten with his garbage no matter how bad it is.
Hey dipshit - I don't spend every waking hour of my life on this site like you do. I try to not even look at th site during the work day even when I'm working from home and nothing compels or requires me to respond to everyone of your threads. Once again you see "significance" where none exists
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I agree with you that Bush supporters, including myself took too long to flee from that ship. you have no argument from me there. I myself was thrown off FR for bashing Bush in 2005 BTW. I did not have a huge problem with Bush in the beginning and have listed my huge disagreements many times.
however, two wrongs dont make a right and just because one guy makes a mess and does shady crap does not make it right for the next guy, especially when the whole mantra and campaign was "CHange" from Bush.
Instead, we got Bush with black skin.
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releasing them or not , why spend 1 million dollars of tax money to hide them ????
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I agree with you that Bush supporters, including myself took too long to flee from that ship. you have no argument from me there. I myself was thrown off FR for bashing Bush in 2005 BTW. I did not have a huge problem with Bush in the beginning and have listed my huge disagreements many times.
however, two wrongs dont make a right and just because one guy makes a mess and does shady crap does not make it right for the next guy, especially when the whole mantra and campaign was "CHange" from Bush.
Instead, we got Bush with black skin.
I appreciate your intentions.
I just think you in some cases fall prey to subjective criticisms of Obama that never applied to other presidents.
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releasing them or not , why spend 1 million dollars of tax money to hide them ????
scroll up a bit or go to page one. It's just common sense to have legal representation if some group like this is attacking you considering you are the president of the USA.
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releasing them or not , why spend 1 million dollars of tax money to hide them ????
haha - now you're picking up the "million dollar" like from 333 and adding "tax dollars"
classic Get Big echo chamber
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Hey dipshit - I don't spend every waking hour of my life on this site like you do. I try to not even look at th site during the work day even when I'm working from home and nothing compels or requires me to respond to everyone of your threads. Once again you see "significance" where none exists
Fine here it is for you now. is Matt Taibii now a teabagging, birther, right winger?
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Fine here it is for you now. is Matt Taibii now a teabagging, birther, right winger?
just so you'll have another "dot" for your CT I'm not going to watch.
Does he bring up Obama's birth certificate?
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just so you'll have another "dot" for your CT I'm not going to watch.
Does he bring up Obama's birth certificate?
Uh, no. its actually a great short video about the bailouts, lies, and bait and switch Obama played on everyone, and is doing right now on regulatory reform.
Taibii is a will known Lib.
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Uh, no. its actually a great short video about the bailouts, lies, and bait and switch Obama played on everyone, and is doing right now on regulatory reform.
Taibii is a will known Lib.
if he doesn't question his birth certficate then why did you think I would call him a birther or a teabagger
have you noticed that on one hand you think Obama is a Marxist/Socialist/Commie whatever and on the other hand you criticize him for extending the policies of Bush. Does that make Bush a Commie too?
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if he doesn't question his birth certficate then why did you think I would call him a birther or a teabagger
have you noticed that on one hand you think Obama is a Marxist/Socialist/Commie whatever and on the other hand you criticize him for extending the policies of Bush. Does that make Bush a Commie too?
Bush was a complete disaster, a fiscal socialist, a spendthrift, a reckless idiot, a tin-eared arrogant jerk.
is that enough?
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Bush was a complete disaster, a fiscal socialist, a spendthrift, a reckless idiot, a tin-eared arrogant jerk.
is that enough?
you forgot mass murderer
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and dumbass.
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and dumbass.
Fine. I'm in agreement.
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What would I believe more,the birther people or the idiots that say Palind baby isnt hers.Pretty funny that the people who think the birther charge is nuts have zero problem believing 911 was an inside job or Palins baby isnt hers.Hello pot,meet kettle.
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33 has posted some very accurate videos from info wars, the same "kooks" that talked for 5+ years about the holes in the officiall 911 story.
So are we to believe they are right about obama being shady, but not about dubya?
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33 has posted some very accurate videos from info wars, the same "kooks" that talked for 5+ years about the holes in the officiall 911 story.
So are we to believe they are right about obama being shady, but not about dubya?
Again - please tell me the best evidence showing a valid 9/11 CT.
Questions are one thing, but coming up with something logical, coherehent, and non-conflicting is something different.
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there are thousands of scholars, military, and police that have come fwd with far better details on why 911 official story stinks - and the 2 co-chairs of the commission have also said we need a new investigation.
Me randomly posting something here, that you will refute with google immediately, would be a waste of both of our valuable time. i spent 3 years reading about it, probably 2 hours a night or more, and i'm fairly convinced it was allowed to happen.
I can talk thermite, recordings of explosions, and condi's testimonial on why she ignored the detailed warning. But it's a waste of time. If you cared as much about 911 as you did about obama's spending, you'd already be a truther ;)
So hey, keep doing what you're doing to stop the current damage, I am sure you are as passionate about it as I was about 911. But the fact the same team that you feel is 100% right about obama's deeds - was the the same group of guys giving detailed speeches on 911 for packed houses for 5 years... should speak volumes to you.
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there are thousands of scholars, military, and police that have come fwd with far better details on why 911 official story stinks - and the 2 co-chairs of the commission have also said we need a new investigation.
Me randomly posting something here, that you will refute with google immediately, would be a waste of both of our valuable time. i spent 3 years reading about it, probably 2 hours a night or more, and i'm fairly convinced it was allowed to happen.
I can talk thermite, recordings of explosions, and condi's testimonial on why she ignored the detailed warning. But it's a waste of time. If you cared as much about 911 as you did about obama's spending, you'd already be a truther ;)
So hey, keep doing what you're doing to stop the current damage, I am sure you are as passionate about it as I was about 911. But the fact the same team that you feel is 100% right about obama's deeds - was the the same group of guys giving detailed speeches on 911 for packed houses for 5 years... should speak volumes to you.
Well I dont believe the birther story or the 911 story or the Palin story.You have WAY too much faith in this government.Those fools cant keep people from crashing partys at the white house but can pull off 911?Please.
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You like this one 240?
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You like this one 240?
It should say.
WHERE IS YOUR INVITATION?
She should answer,IVE BEEN FRIENDS WITH YOU AND YOUR TERRORIST FRIENDS FOR YEARS I DONT NEED ONE.
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'Well I dont believe the birther story or the 911 story or the Palin story.You have WAY too much faith in this government.Those fools cant keep people from crashing partys at the white house but can pull off 911?Please."
The birthers actually have some significant Qs dude.
Of course, if I asked you to list the 5 biggest signals of smoke/fire/guilt AFTER Obama has been elected, you probably couldn't do that, could you? So any opinion you have formed on the matter is an uneducated one, no offense.
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'Well I dont believe the birther story or the 911 story or the Palin story.You have WAY too much faith in this government.Those fools cant keep people from crashing partys at the white house but can pull off 911?Please."
The birthers actually have some significant Qs dude.
Of course, if I asked you to list the 5 biggest signals of smoke/fire/guilt AFTER Obama has been elected, you probably couldn't do that, could you? So any opinion you have formed on the matter is an uneducated one, no offense.
Obama is guilty of ONE thing and that should be enough to have never gotten him elected.HE IS A RACIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Anytime you would like me to back that claim up Id be more then happy.SMOKE/FIRE/PROOF