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Reason to be grateful Obama appointed gay porn-purveyor Jennings as Safe Schools Czar
Bookworm on Dec 04 2009 at 4:01 pm | Filed under: Education, GBLT
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No, my post title does not mean I’ve gone off my rocker and started supporting Kevin Jennings in his role as Safe Schools Czar. Thanks to Terresa Monroe’s hard work, I’ve known for months exactly what kind of person Kevin Jennings, the “Safe School Czar” is. He’s a career gay man who is devoted to ensuring that children as young as five or six are exposed to a steady stream of sexual information that may help them get in contact with their homosexual side. Nor is this merely an academic interest. As Zombie documented, Jennings has very close ties to NAMBLA, an organization that actively works to legalize pedophilia (see here, here and here for the results of Zombie’s working tying Jennings to NAMBLA and its leaders).
The latest hit against Jennings is a report at Gateway Pundit. This report details the way in which Jennings’ gay/education/political activism group, GLSEN (Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Education Network), actively pushes schools to include in their reading lists extremely sexually explicit books aimed at kids in the 7th through 12th grades. And when I say sexually explicit, I’m not talking about coy allusions to hand-holding, kissing and warm fuzzy feelings. Gateway Pundit carefully documents precisely the kind of material Jennings’ organization wants your children to read. It is graphic. No child — gay, straight, confused, whatever — should be reading this kind of material. The listed books include pornographic pictures, descriptions of sado-masochistic acts, graphic descriptions of sexual acts, etc.
Nor is Jennings’ relationship to this group tenuous: as Gateway Pundit says:
GLSEN started essentially as Jennings’ personal project and grew to become the culmination of his life’s work. And he was chosen by President Obama to be the nation’s Safe Schools Czar primarily because he had founded and led GLSEN (scroll for bio).
Given what a foul swamp Jennings crawled out of to join the Obama administration, why in the world am I saying that I’m grateful to Obama for his appointment? Easy. Before Jennings hit the big time, we — meaning parents and concerned citizens — didn’t have any idea what was going on. We thought that the politically correct aspects of the gay rights movement, insofar as they intersected with education, simply meant assuring that gay kids don’t get abused or bullied at school. That’s a goal that I think all civilized people believe to be good. Sure, there were the books about gay penguins and two mommies, and we weren’t thrilled about them, but even those were painted in warm, fuzzy pastels, aimed at assuring us that it was all about making sure that gay children weren’t ostracized and abused in the “lord of the flies” atmosphere that prevails in so many schools.
Jennings’ appointment, however, has exposed us to the fact that there is a loud, active subset of gay activists who are not concerned simply with ensuring that young boys and girls are safe, but that instead genuinely wants to expose all children to explicit gay sexual activity. Certainly that’s what the GLSEN reading list indicates to be the case. The existence of this material leads to the next question, which is why these activists want children to be primed as fully sexualized gay actors? Well, Jennings’ involvement with NAMBLA, and NAMBLA activists leads to the logical answer: pedophiles are using our school system to groom children as their sexual partners.
Without Obama’s idiotic decision to appoint a grooming pedophile as his Safe Schools Czar, all of this stuff would have continued to work under the radar. It takes the type of prominence Obama gave Jennings to expose the rot in our educational system. And that’s why we should be very grateful to Obama for appointing Jennings as the czar. Had he not done so, it’s entirely reasonable to believe that no one — and certainly not a critical mass of parents and observers — would have cared about or noticed what was going on. To take myself as an example, I know that I don’t have the time to vet every single book on my children’s reading lists. There are dozens, even hundreds, of them. I can only hope that the common sense and morality I’ve already inculcated into my children helps armor them against these intellectual and psychic insults.
In a bizarre way, Obama is working out well as a president. Yes, he’s the first leader in the history of the world intentionally to denigrate and degrade his own nation’s standing. Yes, he may be the scourge of the military and national security. And yes, he may be trying to bankrupt our economy. But he’s also doing something incredibly important: he’s ripping the smiley-faced mask the left has worn since the Civil Rights movement.
In the 40 odd years since the Left coopted the Civil Rights movement, it has managed to convince Americans that conservatives are evil, narrow-minded, racist, sexist, homophobic crucifix-clutching, oppressors, intent on reinstating a repressive, sharia-like world. Leftists have simultaneously presented themselves as the good guys, concerned only for the well-being of every oppressed person in the world.
What we’re seeing, though, now that the mask is going, going, gone, is the fact that some people deserve to be oppressed: pedophiles; radical Islamists who hate women, gays, Jews and Christians; racial grievance mongers who want to keep blacks permanently latched to the government teat; socialists who would rather see everyone suffer under a bad medical system, than allow anyone to benefit under a good one. And the lists goes on. Without any restraints, Obama’s hubris, and the hubris of those who surround him, has exposed the noxious cancer lying at the heart of Leftism: it advances totalitarian deviance at the expense of the decent, free norm.
(Usual disclaimer here: I am not homophobic. I am opposed, however, to a gay political agenda, exemplified by Kevin Jennings’ career, that seeks to sexualize our youth, and to make private bedroom behavior an overarching social and political concern that strikes at the central pillars of a stable culture.)
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Is this what you voted for?
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hasn't this shit already been thoroughly debunked?
http://mediamatters.org/research/200910090043
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Where is the debunking? All i saw were attacks on those reporting on this guy.
He also covered up a nasty relationship between the minor and an adult. That's ok with you?
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Where is the debunking? All i saw were attacks on those reporting on this guy.
He also covered up a nasty relationship between the minor and an adult. That's ok with you?
did you actually read the link before you posted?
Conservatives' smears based on falsehoods
Claim that Jennings failed to report "statutory rape" because student he counseled was 15 has been conclusively debunked. Media Matters exclusively obtained the Massachusetts driver's license of the student confirming that he was 16 years of age -- the legal age of consent in Massachusetts -- at the time Jennings counseled him in 1988. The student also provided Media Matters with a statement in which he said, "I was a sixteen-year-old" and "was of legal consent at the time."
Evidence in no way supports claims that Jennings "urged" the student "to further the relationship," or that student was sexually assaulted. Neither Jennings' 2000 speech for the Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Education Network, nor his 1994 book, nor the student's own statement in any way suggests that the student told Jennings that someone was "forcing his way on" him or that Jennings "urged" the student to "further the relationship."
Jennings' praise of gay rights pioneer Hay had nothing to do with NAMBLA. In a 1997 speech often cited by conservatives attempting to smear Jennings as a supporter of NAMBLA, Jennings reportedly said, "One of the people that's always inspired me is Harry Hay, who started the first ongoing gay rights groups in America. In 1948, he tried to get people to join the Mattachine Society." Jennings' remarks include no mentions of NAMBLA. Upon Hay's death in October 2002, numerous obituaries noted that Hay was a pioneer of the American gay rights movement -- just as Jennings noted in his 1997 speech.
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Right, a few months makes it all better Straw right?
GMAFB!
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one thing I've learned about 333386 is that what he post doesn't have to be true. like i said before half the shit he post is bullshit he gets off right wing smear sites and then doesn't bother to check to see if its true. so in the end it makes him look like an idiot
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one thing I've learned about 333386 is that what he post doesn't have to be true. like i said before half the shit he post is bullshit he gets off right wing smear sites and then doesn't bother to check to see if its true. so in the end it makes him look like an idiot
don't forget the stuff he just pulls out of his own ass
I'm completely serious when I say that I think this guy might be going through some sort of mental breakdown or it has already happened. As long as someone hasn't broken any laws there is nothing stopping them from living their lives while being completely un-tethered from reality.
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one thing I've learned about 333386 is that what he post doesn't have to be true. like i said before half the shit he post is bullshit he gets off right wing smear sites and then doesn't bother to check to see if its true. so in the end it makes him look like an idiot
Cry me a river fool. This guy jennings is a complete dirtbag.
And now Straw is going to try to hide behind the fact that this guy was 16 vs 15?
yeah, great job bro.
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Cry me a river fool. This guy jennings is a complete dirtbag.
And now Straw is going to try to hide behind the fact that this guy was 16 vs 15?
yeah, great job bro.
I'm not hiding behind anything
who's the fucking attorney here anyway?
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I'm not hiding behind anything
who's the fucking attorney here anyway?
The point is that this dirtbag should not have to hie behind the fact that a kid was 16 by a few months vs. 15 to point out that he is totally unfit for this job, especially with all the other nonsense.
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The point is that this dirtbag should not have to hie behind the fact that a kid was 16 by a few months vs. 15 to point out that he is totally unfit for this job, especially with all the other nonsense.
what exactly would he be reporting if the person was of legal age of consent
Additionally, what exactly would he have reported:
"Evidence in no way supports claims that Jennings "urged" the student "to further the relationship," or that student was sexually assaulted. Neither Jennings' 2000 speech for the Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Education Network, nor his 1994 book, nor the student's own statement in any way suggests that the student told Jennings that someone was "forcing his way on" him or that Jennings "urged" the student to "further the relationship."
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what exactly would he be reporting if the person was of legal age of consent
Additionally, what exactly would he have reported:
"Evidence in no way supports claims that Jennings "urged" the student "to further the relationship," or that student was sexually assaulted. Neither Jennings' 2000 speech for the Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Education Network, nor his 1994 book, nor the student's own statement in any way suggests that the student told Jennings that someone was "forcing his way on" him or that Jennings "urged" the student to "further the relationship."
At a certain age, people dont have the ability to give informed consent. it depends on whether Jennings thought he was 15 or 16. A minor cant give consent regardless. That is black letter law.
However, if you want to hide behind the fact that maybe he was a few months off, fine, its still disgusting IMHO.
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At a certain age, people dont have the ability to give informed consent. it depends on whether Jennings thought he was 15 or 16. A minor cant give consent regardless. That is black letter law.
However, if you want to hide behind the fact that maybe he was a few months off, fine, its still disgusting IMHO.
the person in question was 16 and there was no assualt
what exactly would there be to report?
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the person in question was 16 and there was no assualt
what exactly would there be to report?
It depends if he thought the guy was a minor, but seriously, if your 16 y/o nephew s having a gay affair with an oldr man and he seeks your counsel, you dont tell him to stop?
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It depends if he thought the guy was a minor, but seriously, if your 16 y/o nephew s having a gay affair with an oldr man and he seeks your counsel, you dont tell him to stop?
so now your argument is just down to that?
look - if my sixteen year old niece or nehpew were fooling around with someone significantly older I would have a concern but that's got nothing to do with this story or the pile of crap you listed in your first post.
Once again - when faced with facts you're just completely shut down and your "outrage" is shown to be based on nothing
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so now your argument is just down to that?
look - if my sixteen year old niece or nehpew were fooling around with someone significantly older I would have a concern but that's got nothing to do with this story or the pile of crap you listed in your first post.
Once again - when faced with facts you're just completely shut down and your "outrage" is shown to be based on nothing
Thats just one part of it Straw, there is so much else with this guy.
You don't see a pattern here? Van Jones, Holdren, Sunstein, Llord, etc?
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Thats just one part of it Straw, there is so much else with this guy.
You don't see a pattern here? Van Jones, Holdren, Sunstein, Llord, etc?
no I don't see any pattern here but I know you do
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no I don't see any pattern here but I know you do
No kidding you dont see a pattern.
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No kidding you dont see a pattern.
No I don't
you're forgetting that you're nut's and I'm not
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No I don't
you're forgetting that you're nut's and I'm not
Van Jones - self described communist
Holdren - "Global Cooling" in 1970's.
Sunstein - do your own research on that freak.
Lloyd - says we need diversity in the media and fire white people.
I guess you did know these things about these people?
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Van Jones - self described communist
Holdren - "Global Cooling" in 1970's.
Sunstein - do your own research on that freak.
Lloyd - says we need diversity in the media and fire white people.
I guess you did know these things about these people?
I know enough about each one and none of it bothers me.
The only part that bothers me is that Obama should not have let Jones "resign"
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I know enough about each one and none of it bothers me.
The only part that bothers me is that Obama should not have let Jones "resign"
So you have no problem with Van Jones being self described communist?
You have no problem with someone who once promoted Global Cooling, and now saying Global Warming is the biggest issue, as being a problem?
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So you have no problem with Van Jones being self described communist?
You have no problem with someone who once promoted Global Cooling, and now saying Global Warming is the biggest issue, as being a problem?
nope - doesn't bother me at all
Jones also called himself and eco-capitalist and that doesn't bother me either
Holdrens statements about global cooling were common for others at the time as well - nothing to get all worked up over and certainly not a "dot' that you can connect to other dots in the bizzaro CT world inside your skull
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nope - doesn't bother me at all
Jones also called himself and eco-capitalist and that doesn't bother me either
Holdrens statements about global cooling were common for others at the time as well - nothing to get all worked up over and certainly not a "dot' that you can connect to other dots in the bizzaro CT world inside your skull
Unreal. I dont even know where to start with your stupidity.
There is no such thing as eco-capitilism since every one of these eco-fantasies rely on govt subsidies, tax credits, and regulations, not consumer supply and demand.
As far as Holdren - geez - can you be any more foolish? Is this really someone with any credibility whatsoever to be demanding that we engage in activities that will harm our economy based on crack-pot theories?
BTW - here is a graph of Obama's cabinet vs. others as far as private sector experience.
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Unreal. I dont even know where to start with your stupidity.
There is no such thing as eco-capitilism since every one of these eco-fantasies rely on govt subsidies, tax credits, and regulations, not consumer supply and demand.
As far as Holdren - geez - can you be any more foolish? Is this really someone with any credibility whatsoever to be demanding that we engage in activities that will harm our economy based on crack-pot theories?
BTW - here is a graph of Obama's cabinet vs. others as far as private sector experience.
So what?
Rumsfield had major experience didn't he? How'd he do with the Iraq war?
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Unreal. I dont even know where to start with your stupidity.
There is no such thing as eco-capitilism since every one of these eco-fantasies rely on govt subsidies, tax credits, and regulations, not consumer supply and demand.
As far as Holdren - geez - can you be any more foolish? Is this really someone with any credibility whatsoever to be demanding that we engage in activities that will harm our economy based on crack-pot theories?
BTW - here is a graph of Obama's cabinet vs. others as far as private sector experience.
I don't care about eco-capitalist either
that was my point
I have no clue who made that graph or what value it is
Most of Bush's appointees where nothing more that lobbyist inside the White House for the industries they were supposed to regulate and of course there was Cheney who ran a defense contractor which was responsible for defrauding the govt. Is that the kind of experience you're looking for?
How did we get tfrom your bogus Nambla associations to this topic?
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I don't care about eco-capitalist either
that was my point
I have no clue who made that graph or what value it is
Most of Bush's appointees where nothing more that lobbyist inside the White House for the industries they were supposed to regulate and of course there was Cheney who ran a defense contractor which was responsible for defrauding the govt. Is that the kind of experience you're looking for?
How did we get tfrom your bogus Nambla associations to this topic?
We got here by my saying a pattern existed with the czars being extremely problematic because of their views. you said you were not concerned that one was a communist, one was a eco-coolist in the 70's and now a eco-warmist, etc.
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We got here by my saying a pattern existed with the czars being extremely problematic because of their views. you said you were not concerned that one was a communist, one was a eco-coolist in the 70's and now a eco-warmist, etc.
you're right
I see no pattern and nothing to be concerned about.
Why don't you spend your time posting about Goldman Sachs and you're more likely to see me share your concern
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you're right
I see no pattern and nothing to be concerned about.
Why don't you spend your time posting about Goldman Sachs and you're more likely to see me share your concern
Fine - here is one dealing with Citi Bank. BTW 0 i did not know that jamie Rubin was Bob Rubins' son.
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Fine - here is one dealing with Citi Bank. BTW 0 i did not know that jamie Rubin was Bob Rubins' son.
you're just dying for attention aren't you?
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Straw, did you really just link "media matters" for ANY credibility?
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The pattern, for anybody who chooses not to see it, is that Obama has been surrounding himself with many people with either a questionable past or questionable associations, after he specifically challenged people to judge him by the people with which he surrounds himself.
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Straw, did you really just link "media matters" for ANY credibility?
you think they have some credibility issue?
I can't wait to hear it
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Why is anyone excited... BARNEY FRANK is a known homosexual and pedophile and ran a pedophile ring right out of his own Massachusettes home with four other men including his boyfriend. And look at where he is an what he controls today: head of TARP....WTF??
America is one sick, fucked up nation run by FREAKS!!!! I say drag all of the pervs into the street and massacre 'em...including this new school Czar (and don't forget Obama).
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Why is anyone excited... BARNEY FRANK is a known homosexual and pedophile and ran a pedophile ring right out of his own Massachusettes home with four other men including his boyfriend. And look at where he is an what he controls today: head of TARP....WTF??
America is one sick, fucked up nation run by FREAKS!!!! I say drag all of the pervs into the street and massacre 'em...including this new school Czar (and don't forget Obama).
Straw told me the Barney Frank thing was no big deal.
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Why is anyone excited... BARNEY FRANK is a known homosexual and pedophile and ran a pedophile ring right out of his own Massachusettes home with four other men including his boyfriend. And look at where he is an what he controls today: head of TARP....WTF??
America is one sick, fucked up nation run by FREAKS!!!! I say drag all of the pervs into the street and massacre 'em...including this new school Czar (and don't forget Obama).
shouldn't some Mod here notify the FBI for a threat against POTUS?
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shouldn't some Mod here notify the FBI for a threat against POTUS?
Their too busy dealing with the incompetence of the WH staff letting people into galas and claiming executive privledge.
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Their too busy dealing with the incompetence of the WH staff letting people into galas and claiming executive privledge.
the mods are busy with that?
you're starting early with the gibberish today
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the mods are busy with that?
you're starting early with the gibberish today
Do you agree with the WH claiming executive privilige for Rogers not to testify?
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Do you agree with the WH claiming executive privilige for Rogers not to testify?
No I don't think it's that important and since he's new in office and Bush set a precedent for doing that I can see why Obama might want to test the waters with how far he can push it. I doubt Congress will make it an issue of his social secretary.
I think all the blame and the problem that needs to be fixed is with the Secret Service. I think this incident was a serious breach or security but I don't think it warrants the time/$'s of a Congressional investigation.
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No I don't think it's that important and since he's new in office and Bush set a precedent for doing that I can see why Obama might want to test the waters with how far he can push it. I doubt Congress will make it an issue of his social secretary.
I think all the blame and the problem that needs to be fixed is with the Secret Service. I think this incident was a serious breach or security but I don't think it warrants the time/$'s of a Congressional investigation.
I think you're right, the Congress won't and shouldn't make an issue out of this. But, to me, that's not the real issue. Obama ran on a platform of transparency and openness. Claiming that he's just following a Bush precedent is akin to saying he should have kept GITMO as is.
If Barry wants credibility, he's going to have to put his words into actions.
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I think you're right, the Congress won't and shouldn't make an issue out of this. But, to me, that's not the real issue. Obama ran on a platform of transparency and openness. Claiming that he's just following a Bush precedent is akin to saying he should have kept GITMO as is.
If Barry wants credibility, he's going to have to put his words into actions.
We're all adults here (I assume) and we all know something about words vs. deeds, strategy, gray areas etc...
Openness doesn't mean he has to respond to everything all the time
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We're all adults here (I assume) and we all know something about words vs. deeds, strategy, gray areas etc...
Openness doesn't mean he has to respond to everything all the time
Oh please. Imagine if these people would have attacked the president?
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We're all adults here (I assume) and we all know something about words vs. deeds, strategy, gray areas etc...
Openness doesn't mean he has to respond to everything all the time
No need to attack. We'll just have to disagree on what "openness" means.
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No need to attack. We'll just have to disagree on what "openness" means.
was I attacking?
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was I attacking?
Straw - this is a big deal.
They say the president was never harmed. Are you kidding me? All this guy had to do was find a sharp object and pull a Godfather Part 3 move. Remember when the hitman killed Don Luchese with thew glasses? A trained killer could have easily pulled that off.
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Straw - this is a big deal.
They say the president was never harmed. Are you kidding me? All this guy had to do was find a sharp object and pull a Godfather Part 3 move. Remember when the hitman killed Don Luchese with thew glasses? A trained killer could have easily pulled that off.
it is a big deal and the diretor of the Secret Service has already testified and taken full blame and said the Secret Service and not Rogers, were responsible for security. Once again, you've got your panties in a twist over nothing.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/sweet/1920519,CST-NWS-sweet04.article
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it is a big deal and the diretor of the Secret Service has already testified and taken full blame and said the Secret Service and not Rogers, were responsible for security. Once again, you've got your panties in a twist over nothing.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/sweet/1920519,CST-NWS-sweet04.article
Than why are they claiming executive privilige if its all their fault?
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Straw told me the Barney Frank thing was no big deal.
Because STRAW is gay and is defending his own. No straight or sane person would defend such reprobate individuals.
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you think they have some credibility issue?
I can't wait to hear it
http://hotair.com/archives/2007/04/23/video-oreilly-names-those-who-recycle-media-matters-garbage/
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Because STRAW is gay and is defending his own. No straight or sane person would defend such reprobate individuals.
I never told him that dipshit
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http://hotair.com/archives/2007/04/23/video-oreilly-names-those-who-recycle-media-matters-garbage/
Welcome to 2007
OReilly doesn't like Media Matter because they exposed him as a racists.
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I never told him that dipshit
You mean SAMSON just read something and took it for gospel? Hehehe....what a shock!
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At a certain age, people dont have the ability to give informed consent. it depends on whether Jennings thought he was 15 or 16. A minor cant give consent regardless. That is black letter law.
However, if you want to hide behind the fact that maybe he was a few months off, fine, its still disgusting IMHO.
the law has determined that that age is 16 whether it fits your smear or not.
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I guess promoting "fisting" to 14 y/o is just fine to right?
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More Outrage: Jennings Org. Promoted "Fisting" to 14 Year Olds
By Steve Foley - Posted on December 6th, 2009
Tagged: Reporting • TMR-TV
Barack Obama’s Safe Schools Czar Kevin Jennings founded the Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Education Network (GLSEN). Recently he was appointed by the Obama administration to run the Office of Safe & Drug Free Schools in the US Department of Education.
In 2000 GLSEN held a conference that was not so much about tolerance as it was about teaching children about sex. In this clip one of the activists promote “fisting” to 14 year olds.
This conference was fully supported by the Massachusetts Department of Education, the Safe Schools Program, the Governor’s Commission on Gay & Lesbian Youth, and some of the presenters even received federal money.
From Gateway Pundit
Mass Resistance recorded this discussion at a 2000 GLSEN conference workshop for children:
If it’s all about tolerance, why is the following question necessary?
David LaFontaine, chairman of the Governor’s Commission on Gay and Lesbian Youth and the man who is mostly responsible for the Gay Straight Alliances in Massachusetts, tells us, “We believe very strongly that all students should not be sexually active in high school.”
Woman: Question is: What’s fisting?
Man: A little known fact is that you don’t make a fist like this. When they do it, it’s like this. This is a lot easier than this. [laughter]
Woman: You work your way up to it… [unclear] one finger, two fingers, three fingers … Some people can take a hand, or they can’t take a hand.
It’s about tolerance? If Gay Straight Alliances are not about sex, why are the people who run Gay Straight Alliances telling students about fisting? What you did not see is the man leading the discussion positioning his hand and showing 14 year olds how to insert their entire hand into the rectum of their sex partner.
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no I don't see any pattern here but I know you do
Straw, you may not see a pattern here, ...but i definitely do... 333386 loves to thhrow whatever crap he can get his hot little fingers on, up against a wall, ...and hope it sticks. When you call him on the BS... he changes the story, shifts sideways, backpedals...but he always tries to keep the poop spinning. that's the pattern.
Obama fires secret service agent because he's a racist...
Obama got snubbed trying to shake hands in Russia ... (I know that was Grant's contribution, but 333 ran with it)
Obama appoints pedophile... ok, so, there was no statutory rape... so he was a counsellor, and the kid consented, and therre was no assault... he's a dirtbag because... well ... just because Obama appointed him and I hate Obama.
oh ya... there's a definite pattern there all right. I just can't believe you missed it. ;) :P
Here's where 333386 tries to completely divert the subject by getting all ad hom spewing more make belief on a totally unrelated subject ...in 3... 2... 1
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Straw, you may not see a pattern here, ...but i definitely do... 333386 loves to thhrow whatever crap he can get his hot little fingers on, up against a wall, ...and hope it sticks. When you call him on the BS... he changes the story, shifts sideways, backpedals...but he always tries to keep the poop spinning. that's the pattern.
Obama fires secret service agent because he's a racist...
Obama got snubbed trying to shake hands in Russia ... (I know that was Grant's contribution, but 333 ran with it)
Obama appoints pedophile... ok, so, there was no statutory rape... so he was a counsellor, and the kid consented, and therre was no assault... he's a dirtbag because... well ... just because Obama appointed him and I hate Obama.
oh ya... there's a definite pattern there all right. I just can't believe you missed it. ;) :P
Here's where 333386 tries to completely divert the subject by getting all ad hom spewing more make belief on a totally unrelated subject ...in 3... 2... 1
Only a liberal jackasses like yourself and Straw can defend this crap. Communists? No problem!
Maoists? No problem!
I can understand why some of you are so defensive about this - it sheds light on the filth you support.
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Yeah, nothing to see here Jag.
Obama: "Judge me by who I surround myself with."
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Breaking: Obama’s “Safe Schools Czar” Is Promoting Child Porn in the Classroom– Kevin Jennings and the GLSEN Reading List
Friday, December 4, 2009, 6:13 AM
Jim Hoft
Scott Baker from Breitbart-TV.com and Co-Host of ‘The B-Cast‘ submitted this shocking report today on Obama’s deviant Safe Schools Czar Kevin Jennings. —-Warning on Content—–
I was recently approached by a team of independent researchers that I have known for some time and have come to trust. They prepared this report involving ‘Safe Schools Czar’ Kevin Jennings and the organization he founded, GLSEN, and asked that I find a way to help draw attention to what they uncovered. Knowing that Gateway Pundit has followed Kevin Jennings since his appointment, as we have on The B-Cast (here, here, and here), and on Breitbart.tv (here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here and here), I felt this would be an appropriate place for this report.
Warning: The following material is very explicit.
Scott Baker
Co-Founder, Breitbart.tv
Co-Host, The B-Cast
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Safe Schools Czar Kevin Jennings was the founder, and for many years, Executive Director of an organization called the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network (GLSEN). GLSEN started essentially as Jennings’ personal project and grew to become the culmination of his life’s work. And he was chosen by President Obama to be the nation’s Safe Schools Czar primarily because he had founded and led GLSEN (scroll for bio).
GLSEN’s stated mission is to empower gay youth in the schools and to stop harassment by other students. It encourages the formation of Gay Student Alliances and condemns the use of hateful words. GLSEN also strives to influence the educational curriculum to include materials which the group believes will increase tolerance of gay students and decrease bullying. To that end, GLSEN maintains a recommended reading list of books that it claims “furthers our mission to ensure safe schools for all students.” In other words, these are the books that GLSEN’s directors think all kids should be reading: gay kids should read them to raise their self-esteem, and straight kids should read them in order to become more aware and tolerant and stop bullying gay kids. Through GLSEN’s online ordering system, called “GLSEN BookLink,” featured prominently on their Web site, teachers can buy the books to use as required classroom assignments, or students can buy them to read on their own.
According to GLSEN’s own press releases from the period during which its recommended reading list was developed, the organization’s three areas of focus were creating “educational resources, public policy agenda, [and] student organizing programs”; in other words, the reading list (chief among its “educational resources”) was of prime importance in GLSEN’s efforts to influence the American educational system.
The list is divided into three main categories: books recommended for grades K-6; books recommended for grades 7-12; and books for teachers. (The books on the list span all genres: fiction, nonfiction, memoirs, even poetry.)
Out of curiosity to see exactly what kind of books Kevin Jennings and his organization think American students should be reading in school, our team chose a handful at random from the over 100 titles on GLSEN’s grades 7-12 list, and began reading through.
What we discovered shocked us. We were flabbergasted. Rendered speechless.
We were unprepared for what we encountered. Book after book after book contained stories and anecdotes that weren’t merely X-rated and pornographic, but which featured explicit descriptions of sex acts between pre-schoolers; stories that seemed to promote and recommend child-adult sexual relationships; stories of public masturbation, anal sex in restrooms, affairs between students and teachers, five-year-olds playing sex games, semen flying through the air. One memoir even praised becoming a prostitute as a way to increase one’s self-esteem. Above all, the books seemed to have less to do with promoting tolerance than with an unabashed attempt to indoctrinate students into a hyper-sexualized worldview.
We knew that unless we carefully documented what we were reading, the public would have a hard time accepting it. Mere descriptions on our part could not convey the emotional gut reaction one gets when seeing what Kevin Jennings wants kids to read as school assignments. So we began scanning pages from each of the books, and then made exact transcriptions of the relevant passages on each page.
Are we exaggerating, or misconstruing quotes that could be interpreted a different way? No: Read the passages below and judge for yourself. There’s no wiggle room. The language is explicit, the intent clear.
To be specific, the books we read were:
Queer 13
Being Different
The Full Spectrum
Revolutionary Voices
Reflections of a Rock Lobster
Passages of Pride
Growing Up Gay/Growing Up Lesbian
The Order of the Poison Oak
In Your Face
Mama’s Boy, Preacher’s Son
Love & Sex: Ten Stories of Truth
We can only vouch for what’s in these 11 books, since these are the only ones we’ve read through. Are there other books on the GLSEN reading list that are similarly outrageous? We can’t say for sure, but it seems very likely. What you see excerpted below is probably only the tip of the iceberg.
Let it be clear: This issue has nothing to do with gayness or straightness, which is irrelevant to this report. The point proven here is that the GLSEN reading list promotes the sexualization of children in general, regardless of the “orientation.”
And this is not about censorship: It’s about deciding what constitutes appropriate reading material for children. We’re perfectly OK with these books existing and being read by adults; we only start to worry when these books are assigned to children. All sorts of books are excluded from school reading lists, for all sorts of reasons. Even many books once considered classics are now considered off-limits due to language or attitudes now deemed inappropriate. And yet, according to Kevin Jennings and GLSEN, books about a 13-year-old getting “my cock sucked and my ass fucked” or about a teenager enjoying the “exquisite bitter taste” of his friend’s semen are not just acceptable, they’re highly recommended. As GLSEN’s own site says, “All BookLink items are reviewed by GLSEN staff for quality and appropriateness of content.” Really? (Note: GLSEN does advise adults to “review content for suitability.”)
Although GLSEN does not address how books get added to its list, it’s hard to imagine that they are chosen by low-level staffers or volunteers, with no oversight. Since the list of recommended books is one of the organization’s primary tools (”The GLSEN BookLink, an online library of recommended resources, along with the Safe Space program remain cornerstones of GLSEN’s education work.” source), it’s likely that the books were chosen carefully. Kevin Jennings stepped down as Executive Director last year after leading GLSEN since its inception, but every single book mentioned in this report was added to the list while Jennings was in charge (dates are given for each title’s addition to the list). Therefore, it’s reasonable to believe he was aware of the addition of these works – especially since most were added when GLSEN was still quite small and the Executive Director had a hands-on role in daily operations.
Below you will find dozens of excerpts taken from books on the GLSEN “Booklink” recommended reading list for grades 7-12 (i.e. for children between the ages of 12 and 17). To prove that these books are indeed recommended by GLSEN for children, click on each book’s title to see its individual listing on the GLSEN Web site. And to prove that each excerpt is transcribed exactly as it appears in each book, click on the page numbers or the small images along the left to see scans taken directly of the book pages in question. (Ellipses ["..."] indicate unrelated passages not included in some of the transcriptions; click on the full-page scans to see the complete extended quotes.) Each passage is preceded by a brief summary, given in italics.
You decide for yourself if you think these are appropriate for kids as young as 12 years old to read. And then decide if you think the man who headed the organization responsible for recommending these books to children should be in charge of school safety in this country.
Content Warning:
Keep in mind that, although the material below has been deemed by Kevin Jennings and GLSEN to be appropriate for children, some of the excerpts contain explicit language and pornographic descriptions, so if you don’t want to see such things, stop reading now.
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The exerpts and pages from these books are directly at the site.
http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2009/12/breaking-obamas-safe-schools-czar-is-promoting-porn-in-the-classroom-kevin-jennings-and-the-glsen-reading-list/
IS THIS WHAT YOU SUPPORT JAG?
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Why is anyone excited... BARNEY FRANK is a known homosexual and pedophile and ran a pedophile ring right out of his own Massachusettes home with four other men including his boyfriend. And look at where he is an what he controls today: head of TARP....WTF??
America is one sick, fucked up nation run by FREAKS!!!! I say drag all of the pervs into the street and massacre 'em...including this new school Czar (and don't forget Obama).
Barney Frank is not a pedo and he did NOT run a pedo ring out of his home.
He had a boyfriend who was a prostitute and who did sell his services and connected others who wanted such services out of barney's home, unbeknownst to Mr. Frank. When he did infact discover what had taken place, it was Barney Frank himself who revealed the matter to the house ethics committee along with an offer to resign. The matter was thoroughly investigated, and Mr. Frank was found innocent of any wrong doing by both the ethics committee, as well as his constituents. He is afterall an elected official.
There are plenty of things available at your disposal with which to criticize politicians.
There's no need to make things up, or twist facts simply to make them look bad.
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Barney Frank is not a pedo and he did NOT run a pedo ring out of his home.
He had a boyfriend who was a prostitute and who did sell his services and connected others who wanted such services out of barney's home, unbeknownst to Mr. Frank. When he did infact discover what had taken place, it was Barney Frank himself who revealed the matter to the house ethics committee along with an offer to resign. The matter was thoroughly investigated, and Mr. Frank was found innocent of any wrong doing by both the ethics committee, as well as his constituents. He is afterall an elected official.
There are plenty of things available at your disposal with which to criticize politicians.
There's no need to make things up, or twist facts simply to make them look bad.
You means like Barney Franks' huge contribution to the mortgage meltdown and destruction of the financial system?
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Their too busy dealing with the incompetence of the WH staff letting people into galas and claiming executive privledge.
I don't for a minute believe there was any incompetence involved. I believe someone or some entity was feeding three birds with one worm. They were sending a message:
1) That they can get to anyone they want at any time they want.
2) They were planting a seed which they hope will take root in the public's mind that the security around the POTUS is lax & incompetent, ...just in the event that they may need just such a mass collective conclusion to obsfuscate facts.
3) They were setting the secret service up for yet another round in the ring... just like the beating the CIA took after 911 when they were blamed for incompetency allowing Saddam to get his hands on yellow cake and other WMD's ::)
I can assure you no one can so much as pass wind in that place undetected. If party crashers got through, it was because someone wanted them to get through. Understand, there is perpetual tension between India & Pakistan. An American administration forming closer ties with India may indeed make Pakistan's ISI somewhat uncomfortable if not nervous, ...especially with the escalation and troop surge for the Afghan mission
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I don't for a minute believe there was any incompetence involved. I believe someone or some entity was feeding three birds with one worm. They were sending a message:
1) That they can get to anyone they want at any time they want.
2) They were planting a seed which they hope will take root in the public's mind that the security around the POTUS is lax & incompetent, ...just in the event that they may need just such a mass collective conclusion to obsfuscate facts.
3) They were setting the secret service up for yet another round in the ring... just like the beating the CIA took after 911 when they were blamed for incompetency allowing Saddam to get his hands on yellow cake and other WMD's ::)
I can assure you no one can so much as pass wind in that place undetected. If party crashers got through, it was because someone wanted them to get through. Understand, there is perpetual tension between India & Pakistan. An American administration forming closer ties with India may indeed make Pakistan's ISI somewhat uncomfortable if not nervous, ...especially with the escalation and troop surge for the Afghan mission
Actually Samson brough up that point. Could be.
Remember Michael Corleone in Godfather Part 2 on taking people out and what history tells us?
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IS THIS WHAT YOU SUPPORT JAG?
I've never read any of the titles supposedly on the reading list for 13 year olds, so I cannot say. Have you?
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I've never read any of the titles supposedly on the reading list for 13 year olds, so I cannot say. Have you?
I read the exerpts from the books listed on that site which have the books directly there and they are revolting for young people, especially considering most cant even do basic math or science.
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You means like Barney Franks' huge contribution to the mortgage meltdown and destruction of the financial system?
If he made a huge contribution to the mortgage meltdown and destruction of the financial system, ...then by all means discuss it, but don't make up lies and twist facts to trigger reptilian responses. Reptilian responses is what got y'all in this mess to begin with. There are enough reptiles running things as it is.
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I read the exerpts from the books listed on that site which have the books directly there and they are revolting for young people, especially considering most cant even do basic math or science.
That's not what I asked. Just because a supposed "excerpt is posted on a website, ...doesn't make it true, and doesn't necessarily make it an accurate reflection or true excerpt from a book. Anyone can post any garbage on a website. Just look at all your posts as an example. Have you read the actual books on the list?
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That's not what I asked. Just because a supposed "excerpt is posted on a website, ...doesn't make it true, and doesn't necessarily make it an accurate reflection or true excerpt from a book. Anyone can post any garbage on a website. Just look at all your posts as an example. Have you read the actual books on the list?
Coming from an oracle of truth like yourself, I will take note.
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Coming from an oracle of truth like yourself, I will take note.
Please do. 8)
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I never told him that dipshit
Outed.
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Outed.
Straw bent over backwards justifying that nonsense.
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As someone who works with children, but that is sympathetic to homo's ( I have many gay friends)-- I find support for this garbage - especially from gays like Jag and Straw hard to fathom.
You guys really wonder why America does not accept gay marriage?
Do you think the way for the public to display wide spread acceptance for your cause is by trying to indoctrinate 14 year olds into engaging into perverse ( and in most cases abhorent and disgusting regardless of your age) sex acts?
Because of stuff like this, you guys will always be on the fringes of acceptable society. I can't believe that a sane gay advocacy group has not come out and attacked GLSEN.
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the law has determined that that age is 16 whether it fits your smear or not.
No it's not dumbass. The age of consent is 17 in NY and in most states across the board.
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Straw bent over backwards justifying that nonsense.
justifying what nonsense?
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justifying what nonsense?
Remember that brilliant conversation we had a few months back about Barney Franks' gay lover running the prostituin ring out of the apartment?
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Remember that brilliant conversation we had a few months back about Barney Franks' gay lover running the prostituin ring out of the apartment?
how did you arrive at the conclusion that I "justified" it.
I probably posted something similar to what Jag posted that a congressional investigation found no evidence that Frank knew or was involved.
So if by justification do you mean found innocent of any wrong doing?
That's not the same as justifying the illegal acts of others.
You are a lawyer ...... Right?
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how did you arrive at the conclusion that I "justified" it.
I probably posted something similar to what Jag posted that a congressional investigation found no evidence that Frank knew or was involved.
So if by justification do you mean found innocent of any wrong doing?
That's not the same as justifying the illegal acts of others.
You are a lawyer ...... Right?
Lets find the thread.
Do you know who investigated him? It was his own friends!
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Lets find the thread.
Do you know who investigated him? It was his own friends!
you mean other Senators.
Go find it if you want and you'll probably find exactly what I just posted
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EDITORIAL: Obama's risky-sex czarRate this story
Education official involved in teaching 14-year-olds strange sex techniques
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By THE WASHINGTON TIMES
WARNING: This editorial includes discussion of topics that are sexually graphic. Under usual circumstances, we would never entertain these subjects or the rancid language involved. In this case, however, a very unusual exception must be made because the issues are central to the background of a senior presidential appointee at the U.S. Department of Education who is in a position to influence how and what our children are taught in our nation's schools. Thus far, out of fear or squeamishness, there has been public hesitance to examine closely the beliefs of this individual because many are afraid even to touch the risky content. Our scruples cannot be used against us when traditional moral precepts need to be defended. Simply, the deep level of depravity involved in this subject cannot be portrayed without providing a couple of examples to illustrate the inappropriate content. Please do not read any further if you will be offended by sexually graphic language.
The Obama administration is stonewalling serious inquiries about sexual filth propagated by a senior presidential appointee who is responsible for promoting and implementing federal education policy. Democrats clearly are terrified of ruffling the feathers of their activist homosexual supporters, who are an influential part of the Democratic party's base. This scandal, however, is not merely about homosexual behavior; it is about promoting sex between children and adults - and it's time for President Obama to make clear that abetting such illegal perversion has no place in his administration.
It is curious why White House officials and Education Secretary Arne Duncan believe it's worth it politically to continue taking arrows for defending Kevin Jennings, who is Mr. Obama's controversial "safe schools czar." The evidence suggesting he is unfit to serve as a senior presidential appointee is startling and plentiful. It was revealed this week that Mr. Jennings was involved in promoting a reading list for children 13 years old or older that made the most explicit sex between children and adults seem normal and acceptable. This brought up anew Mr. Jennings' past controversies, such as his seeming encouragement of sex between one of his high school students and a much older man as well as his praise for Harry Hay, a notorious supporter of the North American Man Boy Love Association.
But there is more. There are shocking new revelations this week of tape recordings from a youth conference involving 14-year-old students. The conference, billed as a forum to encourage tolerance of homosexuality, was sponsored by Mr. Jennings' organization and was held at Tufts University in March 2000. Mr. Jennings was executive director of the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network (GLSEN) from its founding in 1995 until August 2008. The conference sessions appear to have had less to do with promoting tolerance and more to do with teaching children how to engage in sex.
Andrew Breitbart's Biggovernment.com provides tapes of some of the sessions. Describing the subject matter as smut would be putting it lightly. The conference discussions were very graphic and cannot be relayed in full detail in a family newspaper. A few examples are sufficient to describe the depravity of the subject matter. During one session about oral sex, a presenter asked the 14-year-old students: "Spit or swallow? Is it rude?" In another session, the 14-year-olds are taught about a gross practice called "fisting," in which "the man leading the discussion position[ed] his hand and show[ed] 14-year-olds how to insert their entire hand into the rectum of their sex partner."
Teaching children sexual techniques is simply not appropriate. Unfortunately, it is part of a consistent pattern by some homosexual activists to promote underage homosexuality while pretending that their mission is simply to promote tolerance for so-called alternative lifestyles. It is outrageous that someone involved in this scandal is being paid by the taxpayers to serve in a high-powered position at the Education Department, of all places. At some point, Mr. Duncan, Mr. Jennings, Obama administration spokesmen and the president himself are going to have to start answering questions about all this. Refusing to do so won't make the issue go away.
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Disgusting.
Is this what you voted for Straw?
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liberals want children doing these things at young ages, that way they can have kids at very young ages and become dependent on the government programs to get by at a very young age, its all fitting..
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http://hotair.com/archives/2007/04/23/video-oreilly-names-those-who-recycle-media-matters-garbage/
You talk about credibility issues and the only thing you can offer is Oreilly?
You are dumber than I thought. Which I do have to admit I thought you were pretty fvcking dumb in the first place.
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oh who is more credible? that dude racheal maddow ? lol
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Did anyone refer to Maddow?
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its a question , in order to make a comparison
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In relation to facts and unbiased opinion there is no compare as both do it.
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exactly so with that said why did you make the first comment about oreily then knowing that both do it , oh wait that is part of the whole double standards are ok for liberals thing?? silly me i forgot
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Straw and Jag still have not commented my previous posting--
As homosexuals, do you think that organizations like GLSEN help or hurt your cause for equality?
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exactly so with that said why did you make the first comment about oreily then knowing that both do it , oh wait that is part of the whole double standards are ok for liberals thing?? silly me i forgot
It was in response to someone whining about the original source article and yet offering up piddly shit in terms of Oreilly to support their own arguement. Perhaps you can ask that idiotic Republican about the double standard since I busted him for it.
You must have missed that part.
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u didnt bust anyone for anything, you are as insane as your commie liberal president lol wow, i am not surprised though
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I busted him with his own nonsense and just busted your sorry ass with your own lack of basic reading fundamentals.
You are really struggling with this aren't you? Inability to formulate and articulate a reply that relies on logic and independent thought process shouldn't be so difficult. Maybe your doctor can give you some meds to help you out.
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hey luke keep posting , please your stupidity is realy quite funny , keep it going ..
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Luke?
Ahhh... well as I said and you have once again proven...
busted your sorry ass with your own lack of basic reading fundamentals.
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what you pointed out busts noboby for anything
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or could it be a typo hmmm tough decision there huh dip shit like i said if you think that is busting someone you need to find a websters and pull yourself away from msnbc for 5 sec and read it a lil bit
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Straw and Jag still have not commented my previous posting--
As homosexuals, do you think that organizations like GLSEN help or hurt your cause for equality?
Straw and Jag are finnochio?
I didnt know that. I thought Jag was straight.
Straw - I did not know that.
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Still trying to find something to grasp aren't you?
Still only highlighting the lack of basic reading skills. Else you wouldn't have painted your little self in a corner like this.
But hey... can't help you with stupidity. You seem to be doing fine with that all on your own.
JME = BUSTED once in this thread
You = BUSTED - how many times again? When you reply we can add +1 to that again.
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Lurker - you are arguing with yourself at this point.
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Lurker - you are arguing with yourself at this point.
Quite possibly as this other dude can't formulate any kind of logical post yet.
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EDITORIAL: Obama's risky-sex czarRate this story
Education official involved in teaching 14-year-olds strange sex techniques
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By THE WASHINGTON TIMES
WARNING: This editorial includes discussion of topics that are sexually graphic. Under usual circumstances, we would never entertain these subjects or the rancid language involved. In this case, however, a very unusual exception must be made because the issues are central to the background of a senior presidential appointee at the U.S. Department of Education who is in a position to influence how and what our children are taught in our nation's schools. Thus far, out of fear or squeamishness, there has been public hesitance to examine closely the beliefs of this individual because many are afraid even to touch the risky content. Our scruples cannot be used against us when traditional moral precepts need to be defended. Simply, the deep level of depravity involved in this subject cannot be portrayed without providing a couple of examples to illustrate the inappropriate content. Please do not read any further if you will be offended by sexually graphic language.
The Obama administration is stonewalling serious inquiries about sexual filth propagated by a senior presidential appointee who is responsible for promoting and implementing federal education policy. Democrats clearly are terrified of ruffling the feathers of their activist homosexual supporters, who are an influential part of the Democratic party's base. This scandal, however, is not merely about homosexual behavior; it is about promoting sex between children and adults - and it's time for President Obama to make clear that abetting such illegal perversion has no place in his administration.
It is curious why White House officials and Education Secretary Arne Duncan believe it's worth it politically to continue taking arrows for defending Kevin Jennings, who is Mr. Obama's controversial "safe schools czar." The evidence suggesting he is unfit to serve as a senior presidential appointee is startling and plentiful. It was revealed this week that Mr. Jennings was involved in promoting a reading list for children 13 years old or older that made the most explicit sex between children and adults seem normal and acceptable. This brought up anew Mr. Jennings' past controversies, such as his seeming encouragement of sex between one of his high school students and a much older man as well as his praise for Harry Hay, a notorious supporter of the North American Man Boy Love Association.
But there is more. There are shocking new revelations this week of tape recordings from a youth conference involving 14-year-old students. The conference, billed as a forum to encourage tolerance of homosexuality, was sponsored by Mr. Jennings' organization and was held at Tufts University in March 2000. Mr. Jennings was executive director of the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network (GLSEN) from its founding in 1995 until August 2008. The conference sessions appear to have had less to do with promoting tolerance and more to do with teaching children how to engage in sex.
Andrew Breitbart's Biggovernment.com provides tapes of some of the sessions. Describing the subject matter as smut would be putting it lightly. The conference discussions were very graphic and cannot be relayed in full detail in a family newspaper. A few examples are sufficient to describe the depravity of the subject matter. During one session about oral sex, a presenter asked the 14-year-old students: "Spit or swallow? Is it rude?" In another session, the 14-year-olds are taught about a gross practice called "fisting," in which "the man leading the discussion position[ed] his hand and show[ed] 14-year-olds how to insert their entire hand into the rectum of their sex partner."
Teaching children sexual techniques is simply not appropriate. Unfortunately, it is part of a consistent pattern by some homosexual activists to promote underage homosexuality while pretending that their mission is simply to promote tolerance for so-called alternative lifestyles. It is outrageous that someone involved in this scandal is being paid by the taxpayers to serve in a high-powered position at the Education Department, of all places. At some point, Mr. Duncan, Mr. Jennings, Obama administration spokesmen and the president himself are going to have to start answering questions about all this. Refusing to do so won't make the issue go away.
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Disgusting.
Is this what you voted for Straw?
this stuff sounds strange but if there are tapes and it's innapropriate then of course I'm against it.
I'm not seeing the part where this guy is supposedly promoting sex between adults and children and although the content seems explicit we have no idea (or I don't) whether the parents were informed or had to give consent. All that aside yo think they could have found someone without all this potential baggage
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Straw - the issue is who is vetting these people.
If the vetting is bad thats one thing.
If the know all this stuff and still put these people forward, thats a whole other matter.
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Straw - the issue is who is vetting these people.
If the vetting is bad thats one thing.
If the know all this stuff and still put these people forward, thats a whole other matter.
probably the same person who vetted Geithner
I was agaisnt him too when the only bad thing I knew about him was that he cheated on this taxes
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Straw - the issue is who is vetting these people.
If the vetting is bad thats one thing.
If the know all this stuff and still put these people forward, thats a whole other matter.
How far from the vetting process did these actions occur?
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How far from the vetting process did these actions occur?
I dont know, but I am sure they require all sorts of disclosures and stuff. also, i wonder if a simple google search prior to this present uproar would have brought any of this out.
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I dont know, but I am sure they require all sorts of disclosures and stuff. also, i wonder if a simple google search prior to this present uproar would have brought any of this out.
Can you find out WHEN (the date) that this supposingly happened and the date of when he was vetted? If it was long ago, there should be no excuse for missing that. If it is close to the date and too early for news to break, you could understand why the vetting process didn't pick it up.