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Much respect for this young man, even with tears in his eyes his first reaction was to give respect to Alabama...
Ive said this man is overrated for months now he will not be a NFL qb but he has alot of heart and thats something I respect.
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Yep, I hate the Gaytors and there Jorts, but Tebow is a good man, no doubt. You really can't hate the guy.
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How is he overrated. He helped lead Florida to two national titles and has some of the greatest statistics for a college qb. He'll end up playing the h in the NFL.
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How is he overrated. He helped lead Florida to two national titles and has some of the greatest statistics for a college qb. He'll end up playing the h in the NFL.
His style of play is not geared for NFL success, in my opinion. The speed of NFL defenses would eat him alive every time he tried to run with the ball.
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His style of play is not geared for NFL success, in my opinion. The speed of NFL defenses would eat him alive every time he tried to run with the ball.
Yep. And when he throws, you can go get some popcorn out of the microwave by the time he releases the ball, seriously slow release.
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His style of play is not geared for NFL success, in my opinion. The speed of NFL defenses would eat him alive every time he tried to run with the ball.
He'll probably end up playing something like a H-back in the NFL, not QB. I can see him being like an Antonio Gates.
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How is he overrated. He helped lead Florida to two national titles and has some of the greatest statistics for a college qb. He'll end up playing the h in the NFL.
Agreed, Tebow was a beast in the SEC, which houses the majority of future NFL players. Tebow is a winner, and he will win in the NFL. Tebow will run a wildcat sub package or be a successful h-back or tight end in the NFL. He's an athletic freak ,with superior drive and intelligence. His drive and intelligence will make up for his weaknesses. I can only hope the Pats get a chance to draft him in the third round.
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Tebow is one of the greatest college players in history....How is that overrated?...because he might not do good in the NFL?.....That doesnt = overrated....there two seperate things really....
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Agreed, Tebow was a beast in the SEC, which houses the majority of future NFL players. Tebow is a winner, and he will win in the NFL. Lmao at those calling him "slow"...lol. Tebow will run a wildcat sub package or be a successful h-back or even a tight end.
I think the guy's drive and will to win are enough to ensure that he'll be successful. His work ethic is second to none and I'm sure he's more than willing to do what needs to be done to make him successful.
And you're right. He's spent four years dominating a conference that is littered with NFL caliber players on almost every team so I don't see why he would somehow take a step back to them at the next level.
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I think the guy's drive and will to win are enough to ensure that he'll be successful. His work ethic is second to none and I'm sure he's more than willing to do what needs to be done to make him successful.
And you're right. He's spent four years dominating a conference that is littered with NFL caliber players on almost every team so I don't see why he would somehow take a step back to them at the next level.
That's what separates the great players from the average players, imo. We all know that everyone in the NFL has talent, but a lot of times the guys with slightly less talent work harder through watching film and hard work on the practice field. Tebow is an athletic freak, and he has plenty of speed and power. He'll be a good h-back or tight end.
As we've said several times, Tebow is a winner, period.
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I don't think he'll make a dent in the NFL at any position. Not hatin' but I don't think he has the goods. Tight end or H-back? Any game film out there showing his skills as a receiver?
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I don't think he'll make a dent in the NFL at any position. Not hatin' but I don't think he has the goods. Tight end or H-back? Any game film out there showing his skills as a receiver?
You don't see the success that Tebow has had in the SEC if you don't have "the goods". Tebow has proven he is a very good runner, that's not even debatable. Tebow is a winner, he had a lot of athletic talent, coupled with intelligence and extreme drive. He'll outwork those with more skills than him. That said, lets not act like Tebow is not a top athlete, he is.
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You don't see the success that Tebow has had in the SEC if you don't have "the goods". Tebow has proven he is a very good runner, that's not even debatable. Tebow is a winner, he had a lot of athletic talent, coupled with intelligence and extreme drive. He'll outwork those with more skills than him. That said, lets not act like Tebow is not a top athlete, he is.
Not disagreeing with you at all. He's a terrific athlete. But the NFL is the best of the best. And to compare the talent pool of the SEC vs. the NFL is not even close, IMO.
Hey...best of luck to the kid....he deserves the chance, no doubt. He'll be a 3-5 round pick and given every chance to earn his keep in the NFL. We'll see how he ends up.
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Tebow is one of the greatest college players in history....How is that overrated?...because he might not do good in the NFL?.....That doesnt = overrated....there two seperate things really....
QFT...
I think a good comparison is Tyler Hansbrough in basketball. Both get the same treatment from the so-called experts.
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Yep. And when he throws, you can go get some popcorn out of the microwave by the time he releases the ball, seriously slow release.
I would have thought that Scott Loffeler would have fixed that problem. ??? Scott worked with Chad Henne, Ryan Mallett, Matt Gutierrez, John Navarre and many more.
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perhaps I should have specified my mind works in the NFL as THATS WHERE COLLEGE PLAYERS GOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
LOL YOU DONT MAKE A CAREER OUT OF COLLEGE he is one of the best college qb's but he wont make a good half back he wont even make a good tight end in the NFL he is overrated as far as his prospects in the NFL go
still a good man non the less football or no football
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I hope he does well.I like him as a player and he's seems to be one of the good guys off the field.
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I hope he does well.I like him as a player and he's seems to be one of the good guys off the field.
I agree. It's funny how many media turds and fans I've heard laughing at him for crying after the game.....hey at least the guy cares. Rather see that than some guy grab assin' on the sideline, laughing it up while his team is getting smoked.
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perhaps I should have specified my mind works in the NFL as THATS WHERE COLLEGE PLAYERS GOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
LOL YOU DONT MAKE A CAREER OUT OF COLLEGE he is one of the best college qb's but he wont make a good half back he wont even make a good tight end in the NFL he is overrated as far as his prospects in the NFL go
still a good man non the less football or no football
Why is he overrated? Why won't he make a good halfback? Why won't he make a good tight end? I've seen guys with less talent than Tebow make NFL teams and turn into good players.
Tedy Bru is a great exmaple of this. He played DE at Arizona and was one of the greatest sack aritists in the history of college football. Everone said he was to small to play in the NFL, and he was drafted much later than he should have been. That was until he was drafted, switched to an OLB and went on to become a very good NFL player for 10+ years. Tedy was able to do this because of his extreme drive and heart, coupled with his athletic talents. Tebow has the athletic ability to be a short yardage h-back or a tight end. He can run a wildcat, also.
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Much respect for this young man, even with tears in his eyes his first reaction was to give respect to Alabama...
Ive said this man is overrated for months now he will not be a NFL qb but he has alot of heart and thats something I respect.
He's nowhere near overrated! He's the real deal. Fla lost proving they ARE human. But all respect to T2. He is the best college player ever to date. I can say that and i am a USC fan!!!! Related to Marcus Allen yet i still say T2 is the BET COLLEGE PLAYER EVER!!!!
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Why is he overrated? Why won't he make a good halfback? Why won't he make a good tight end? I've seen guys with less talent than Tebow make NFL teams and turn into good players.
Tedy Bru is a great exmaple of this. He played DE at Arizona and was one of the greatest sack aritists in the history of college football. Everone said he was to small to play in the NFL, and he was drafted much later than he should have been. That was until he was drafted, switched to an OLB and went on to become a very good NFL player for 10+ years. Tedy was able to do this because of his extreme drive and heart, coupled with his athletic talents. Tebow has the athletic ability to be a short yardage h-back or a tight end. He can run a wildcat, also.
come on body tebow runs at a snails pace, he was a great college qb no doubt but when you have linemen running faster than he does ::)
I think his best bet would be tight end or like you stated in some sort of wildcat offense
you pointing out the very rare exceptions to the rule dont do anything but bolster my arguement.
I sincerely hope he does make it like I said I have alot of respect for that young man and has miles of heart.
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He's nowhere near overrated! He's the real deal. Fla lost proving they ARE human. But all respect to T2. He is the best college player ever to date. I can say that and i am a USC fan!!!! Related to Marcus Allen yet i still say T2 is the BET COLLEGE PLAYER EVER!!!!
I agree he is a great college player, but again you dont make a career out of playing college
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I see no reason he couldn't play FB, TE or h-back......I went to college with Brad Hoover of the Panthers. Guy was a slow tailback in college, but productive and has carved out a pretty decent career. And he doesn't have a 1/10 of the God-given physical abilities of Tebow.
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I see no reason he couldn't play FB, TE or h-back......I went to college with Brad Hoover of the Panthers. Guy was a slow tailback in college, but productive and has carved out a pretty decent career. And he doesn't have a 1/10 of the God-given physical abilities of Tebow.
who the fuck is brad hoover? ;) my point exactly
Im not saying he wont go to the NFL or he doesnt have the capability of having a decent career but imho he wont experience 1/10th of the success he has in college.
Like I said I think his best bet is a tight end position he will have to adjust but he know what its like from the qb's side so I think he could make the shift. I dont see him being a clark, whitten, daniels, miller etc...but he does seem pretty smart and has alot of heart and drive so only time will tell.
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come on body tebow runs at a snails pace, he was a great college qb no doubt but when you have linemen running faster than he does ::)
I think his best bet would be tight end or like you stated in some sort of wildcat offense
you pointing out the very rare exceptions to the rule dont do anything but bolster my arguement.
I sincerely hope he does make it like I said I have alot of respect for that young man and has miles of heart.
Tebow runs at a snails pace? He's got explosion and vision, thats what you want in a "pounder type" running back. Jerry Rice ran a 4.6 40. I can find many more exceptions to your rule. How many examples do I have to come up with before you stop dismissing them? If Tebow is so slow and overrated why was he recruited like crazy by every major school on the planet?
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OK so what If he dont become a 10 time pro bowl player he's overrated?please.....shit is retarted....
not to mention what if he doesn't get drafted till the 3rd or 4th round.....what do you expect to get?If He's a high first round pick I could see him maybe not living up to that....But I would love my team to take him in the 3rd round no problem....
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Jerry Rice ran a 4.6 40. I can find many more exceptions to your rule. If Tebow is so slow and overrated why was he recruited like crazy by every major school on the planet?
LOL tebow is no jerry rice...
jerry rice also benefited from possibly one of the best qb's to ever play the game...
college is a different animal from the NFL body, I dont think anybody is disputing his success in college its his success in the NFL that is doubtful.
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OK so what If he dont become a 10 time pro bowl player he's overrated?please.....shit is retarted....
not to mention what if he doesn't get drafted till the 3rd or 4th round.....what do you expect to get?If He's a high first round pick I could see him maybe not living up to that....But I would love my team to take him in the 3rd round no problem....
what if he comes in and doesnt make a dent at all?
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what if he comes in and doesnt make a dent at all?
If my aunt had a dick she would be my uncle....Theres no guarantee that any single player in next years draft will proform well....It's all a crap shoot...
Whats that have to do with the topic of the thread that you think he's overrated which is laughable,,,,
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If my aunt had a dick she would be my uncle....Theres no guarantee that any single player in next years draft will proform well....It's all a crap shoot...
Whats that have to do with the topic of the thread that you think he's overrated which is laughable,,,,
Draft = crap shoot
Recruiting = crap shoot
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If my aunt had a dick she would be my uncle....Theres no guarantee that any single player in next years draft will proform well....It's all a crap shoot...
Whats that have to do with the topic of the thread that you think he's overrated which is laughable,,,,
actually the topic of this thread was to give respect to a guy who deserved it... ::)
again my overrated comment was directed towards his NFL prospects not his college performance...
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I agree he is a great college player, but again you dont make a career out of playing college
Jesse Palmer's getting paid good ....so is papa dakalis (the last alleged gay guy to play for SC who announces Fox west games) and John Jackson (another alleged sugar filled trojan) and many others made good money after playing college ball yet not making it ALL THE WAY to the pros. But as far as the BEST in college go, T2 IS THE BEST OT EVER PLAY! He just is. He may not be a great one in the pro's but he kicked ass in college.
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Jesse Palmer's getting paid good ....so is papa dakalis (the last fag to play for SC who announces Fox west games) and John Jackson (another sugar filled trojan) and many others made good money after playing college ball yet not making it ALL THE WAY to the pros. But as far as the BEST in college go, T2 IS THE BEST OT EVER PLAY! He just is. He may not be a great one in the pro's but he kicked ass in college.
Gotta agree with reg on this one.
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I take back the name calling if I 'fended anyone.
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Tebow runs at a snails pace? He's got explosion and vision, thats what you want in a "pounder type" running back. Jerry Rice ran a 4.6 40. I can find many more exceptions to your rule. How many examples do I have to come up with before you stop dismissing them? If Tebow is so slow and overrated why was he recruited like crazy by every major school on the planet?
HAHAHAHA
Tebow wasnt better than Charlie Ward, Tommie Frazier
Could he throw better than Charlie...no...can he run better than charlie...no...and oh yeah charlie punted too...hahaha
And FSU Played a real schedule back then....No FIUs on there list of teams to rack up stats on...shit makes me wanna puke...
Do i like Tebow...hell yeah...i love that he is gonna run right...everyone knows he is gonna run right...and he still gets yards...But think about charlie ward in college...he didnt get to benefit from the hyper media with 15 news outlets and internet sports sites force feeding you the same name over and over again. It isnt tebows fault ....but again..look at the times we live in..
Dude do you remember Tommie Frazier...OMG..
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Jesse Palmer's getting paid good ....so is papa dakalis (the last alleged gay guy to play for SC who announces Fox west games) and John Jackson (another alleged sugar filled trojan) and many others made good money after playing college ball yet not making it ALL THE WAY to the pros. But as far as the BEST in college go, T2 IS THE BEST OT EVER PLAY! He just is. He may not be a great one in the pro's but he kicked ass in college.
::) your missing my point and making my point at the same time...
you dont make a career out of playing football by playing college, thats why after 4 years you go to the pro... ;)
Pro footballl is the be all, end all of football
agreed he did kick some ass in college but again college football is a different animal completely than the NFL
when linemen are out running him and they are 50 lbs bigger than the linemen he was playing against in college...lol you do the math
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HAHAHAHA
Tebow wasnt better than Charlie Ward, Tommie Frazier
Could he throw better than Charlie...no...can he run better than charlie...no...and oh yeah charlie punted too...hahaha
And FSU Played a real schedule back then....No FIUs on there list of teams to rack up stats on...shit makes me wanna puke...
Do i like Tebow...hell yeah...i love that he is gonna run right...everyone knows he is gonna run right...and he still gets yards...But think about charlie ward in college...he didnt get to benefit from the hyper media with 15 news outlets and internet sports sites force feeding you the same name over and over again. It isnt tebows fault ....but again..look at the times we live in..
Dude do you remember Tommie Frazier...OMG..
Ward padded stats too. Against Duke, MD, Virginia, Wake Forest, etc....
So did Frazier against the weak Nebraska schedule, too.
Tebow will be considered a superior college player to both of them.
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Ward padded stats too. Against Duke, MD, Virginia, Wake Forest, etc....
So did Frazier against the weak Nebraska schedule, too.
Tebow will be considered a superior college player to both of them.
hahahaha atleast those are teams in their conference.
tebow will be considered superior to them to women who like how he looks...
My rank of college players (that i have seen play)
1. Charlie Ward (i hate fla state)
2. Tommie Frazier (i hate neb)
3. Vince Young (i damn sure hate texas)
4. Reggie Bush
5. Vince Young
6. Charles Woodson Matt Leinhart
7. Brian Bozworth
8. Andy Katz
9. Matt Leinhart
10. Ron Dayne
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hahahaha atleast those are teams in their conference.
tebow will be considered superior to them to women who like how he looks...
My rank of college players (that i have seen play)
1. Charlie Ward (i hate fla state)
2. Tommie Frazier (i hate neb)
3. Vince Young (i damn sure hate texas)
4. Reggie Bush
5. Vince Young
6. Charles Woodson Matt Leinhart
7. Brian Bozworth
8. Andy Katz
9. Matt Leinhart
10. Ron Dayne
Two-time natl champ w/ at least one Heisman is not even in the top 10? Maybe big mal is just jealous of Tebow's hollywood leading man looks and penchant for running over opposing LB's.
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Two-time natl champ w/ at least one Heisman is not even in the top 10? Maybe big mal is just jealous of Tebow's hollywood leading man looks and penchant for running over opposing LB's.
He is number 11.
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He is number 11.
College wise, I like most of your list, also I would put in Tim Brown, Rocket Ishmail and Peyton Manning.
Man, I hate that college football is winding down.......and I really don't care about the Bama/Texas matchup, so its a letdown for the title either way.
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College wise, I like most of your list, also I would put in Tim Brown, Rocket Ishmail and Peyton Manning.
Man, I hate that college football is winding down.......and I really don't care about the Bama/Texas matchup, so its a letdown for the title either way.
I wish TCU and Boise State were playing other teams instead of themselves.
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I wish TCU and Boise State were playing other teams instead of themselves.
I agree. When Clemson lost to TCU, I thought wow, what an upset.....now it's clear the better team won.
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::) your missing my point and making my point at the same time...
you dont make a career out of playing football by playing college, thats why after 4 years you go to the pro... ;)
Pro footballl is the be all, end all of football
agreed he did kick some ass in college but again college football is a different animal completely than the NFL
when linemen are out running him and they are 50 lbs bigger than the linemen he was playing against in college...lol you do the math
That's the future that no one can predict if he will be ready. But knowing his character i am betting on him.
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College wise, I like most of your list, also I would put in Tim Brown, Rocket Ishmail and Peyton Manning.
Man, I hate that college football is winding down.......and I really don't care about the Bama/Texas matchup, so its a letdown for the title either way.
damn...my bad...i missed manning...what about the qb after...bishop..he was dope too remember..
Rocket was awesome...and brown played before i was born i think
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hahahaha atleast those are teams in their conference.
tebow will be considered superior to them to women who like how he looks...
My rank of college players (that i have seen play)
1. Charlie Ward (i hate fla state)
2. Tommie Frazier (i hate neb)
3. Vince Young (i damn sure hate texas)
4. Reggie Bush
5. Vince Young
6. Charles Woodson Matt Leinhart
7. Brian Bozworth
8. Andy Katz
9. Matt Leinhart
10. Ron Dayne
You forgot my cousin Marcus Allen aka Little Juice!!!! and Tony Dorsett.
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You forgot my cousin Marcus Allen aka Little Juice!!!! and Tony Dorsett.
yeah i wasnt born when they were dope
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damn...my bad...i missed manning...what about the qb after...bishop..he was dope too remember..
Rocket was awesome...and brown played before i was born i think
Youngster..... do you mean Tee Martin for Tenn? He was very good and people forget he was actually the one who was QB when Tenn won the natl title, not Peyton.
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Youngster..... do you mean Tee Martin for Tenn? He was very good and people forget he was actually the one who was QB when Tenn won the natl title, not Peyton.
yesss...Tee Martin...not bishop...my bad...
He was super dope..had an allstar team ...Al wilson lb, Ray Thompson lb, big darwin walker at tackle, Jamal lewis at rb and travis henry crazy ass...pearless price cedric wilson (he played for the steelers too) at wr and an awesome oline.they were stacked
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yesss...Tee Martin...not bishop...my bad...
He was super dope..had an allstar team ...Al wilson lb, Ray Thompson lb, big darwin walker at tackle, Jamal lewis at rb and travis henry crazy ass...pearless price cedric wilson (he played for the steelers too) at wr and an awesome oline.they were stacked
Tenn has always had a good amount of talent up until the last 3 years or so and fatboy Fulmer got lazy thinking his job was secure forever. If Lane Kiffin can keep his dad as def coordinator, and his players from robbing convenience stores, Tenn will be tough for years to come.
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yeah i wasnt born when they were dope
My co-worker remember BILLY SIMMS (the Lions no.20 before Sanders) in college. Now he's OLD!!!!
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Tenn has always had a good amount of talent up until the last 3 years or so and fatboy Fulmer got lazy thinking his job was secure forever. If Lane Kiffin can keep his dad as def coordinator, and his players from robbing convenience stores, Tenn will be tough for years to come.
I have a heart for Tennessee but SC comes first. Well except in women's basketball!!!!
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Tenn has always had a good amount of talent up until the last 3 years or so and fatboy Fulmer got lazy thinking his job was secure forever. If Lane Kiffin can keep his dad as def coordinator, and his players from robbing convenience stores, Tenn will be tough for years to come.
Jerod Meyo the 2007 DROY says hi : )
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Jerod Meyo the 2007 DROY says hi : )
He is going to be a stud for years.
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He is going to be a stud for years.
This your ride, Stoppa? Read the comments, holy shit, lol.
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This your ride, Stoppa? Read the comments, holy shit, lol.
I'm sure that car is for the basketball team and not their dead ass football team.
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This your ride, Stoppa? Read the comments, holy shit, lol.
hahaha, not exactly my style......haha the comments......
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I'm sure that car is for the basketball team and not their dead ass football team.
For sure......but UNC football > USC hoops ;D
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For sure......but UNC football > USC hoops ;D
Gamecocks right?
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Gamecocks right?
haha, I also laugh when they refer to themselves as "Carolina" hahaha, there is only one....
And for the record... Trojans basketball + Gamecocks basketball < Tar Heels basketball
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haha, I also laugh when they refer to themselves as "Carolina" hahaha, there is only one....
And for the record... Trojans basketball + Gamecocks basketball < Tar Heels basketball
Well there's only one SC!!!!! And that's a football first intitution. Basketball's for the gays oyt in Westwood.
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Well there's only one SC!!!!! And that's a football first intitution. Basketball's for the gays oyt in Westwood.
A brotha who doesn't like hoops? I thought that was impossible.
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A brotha who doesn't like hoops? I thought that was impossible.
Well now that most blacks go pro by the time they finnished Middle School, white guys now seem to own college hoops! Kidding on most of that. But you know where I am going. But my dad had is a basketball nut! He had me watching UCLA in the 70's and early 80's then I was forced to watch Army and Air Force guys play it in Germany and then just my luck we move to the East Coast (South Jersey during Villinova's big win ...then to Maryland (home of Georgetown and UMCP) ! So besides the Lakers, I really don't have a big love for basketball.
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Well now that most blacks go pro by the time they finnished Middle School, white guys now seem to own college hoops! Kidding on most of that. But you know where I am going. But my dad had is a basketball nut! He had me watching UCLA in the 70's and early 80's then I was forced to watch Army and Air Force guys play it in Germany and then just my luck we move to the East Coast (South Jersey during Villinova's big win ...then to Maryland (home of Georgetown and UMCP) ! So besides the Lakers, I really don't have a big love for basketball.
lol
Me too.. I hate basketball..Its hella gay to me..I only watch Lakers and north carolina tarheels because they have the best athletes. Besides that, college basketball is the worst shit
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Me too.. I hate basketball..Its hella gay to me..I only watch Lakers and north carolina tarheels because they have the best athletes. Besides that, college basketball is the worst shit
Amen!!!!
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Me too.. I hate basketball..Its hella gay to me..I only watch Lakers and north carolina tarheels because they have the best athletes. Besides that, college basketball is the worst shit
:-* No homo
;D
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:-* No homo
;D
oh shit i forgot you liked the tarheels...
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oh shit i forgot you liked the tarheels...
Surely you won't hold that against them.... ;)
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HAHAHAHA
Tebow wasnt better than Charlie Ward, Tommie Frazier
Could he throw better than Charlie...no...can he run better than charlie...no...and oh yeah charlie punted too...hahaha
And FSU Played a real schedule back then....No FIUs on there list of teams to rack up stats on...shit makes me wanna puke...
Do i like Tebow...hell yeah...i love that he is gonna run right...everyone knows he is gonna run right...and he still gets yards...But think about charlie ward in college...he didnt get to benefit from the hyper media with 15 news outlets and internet sports sites force feeding you the same name over and over again. It isnt tebows fault ....but again..look at the times we live in..
Dude do you remember Tommie Frazier...OMG..
I watched both Ward and Tebow play throughout their college careers. Both were great and played tough schedules (back in FSU's golden years). Tebow is very predictable and still racks up the statistics, but Charlie wasn't as predictable. Charlie's problem was he couldn't take a hit like Tebow, hence not going into the NFL ;D (Pussy!) But in retrospect, probably the smartest move in his career...