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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: NarcissisticDeity on December 06, 2009, 06:26:53 AM
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Kevin beats Flex
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I think Vince Taylor got ripped off.
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That's it for pics! Flex was heated Levrone won
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What's crazy is that imo, Paul Dillett looked to be in the same shape (conditioning and definition wise) as Dennis Wolf was at the 2009 Mr. Olympia, yet we see how high Paul placed, yet we see Paul having finished dead last this year.... :-\
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so now we are waiting for AC 1997, 1998 and most important 1999 ;D
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What's crazy is that imo, Paul Dillett looked to be in the same shape (conditioning and definition wise) as Dennis Wolf was at the 2009 Mr. Olympia, yet we see how high Paul placed, yet we see Paul having finished dead last this year.... :-\
Paul has better shape and symmetry than Wolf, also he may have been in better conditioning, for the standards were higher back then.
Flex came in too heavy, and if you look at his face he has that bloated full look. Like insulin? I know in his Mass Construction vid which was filmed after the 1996 Mr. O, he had a gut, that he had to hold in, it was pretty big too, not good for someone claiming a 27 inch waist back in 1993.
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I woulda put Dillet behind Cziurlok.
JP Fux BCL(before Chris Lund) looking big!
Gunter was a rookie there, right?
Darrem was still all arms those days.
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I woulda put Dillet behind Cziurlok.
JP Fux BCL(before Chris Lund) looking big!
Gunter was a rookie there, right?
Darrem was still all arms those days.
that guy cziurlok was always underrated and i dont know why!!.. when i was young (may be in 1995) i watched the video of mr. olympia 1994 and even then i couldnt believe how he was not AT LEAST in the top ten!!..
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I woulda put Dillet behind Cziurlok.
JP Fux BCL(before Chris Lund) looking big!
Gunter was a rookie there, right?
Darrem was still all arms those days.
Fux looks really good there but i always thought he came in too heavy and should have dropped more. He had more than enough size.
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this was back when Levrone still had quads.
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this was back when Levrone still had quads.
So you think ND is wrong?
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that guy cziurlok was always underrated and i dont know why!!.. when i was young (may be in 1995) i watched the video of mr. olympia 1994 and even then i couldnt believe how he was not AT LEAST in the top ten!!..
I think he posed to Thunderstruck by ACDC and jump in the air and landed in the splits position. Dude, started to chase mass and lost his conditioning.
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Holy shit Darrem competed even back then? The dude has been around for a while.
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Kevin beats Flex
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with posts like this i am forced to "follow" you like a lost puppy ;D ;D
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Awesome pictures ND :o :o :o...Kevin really did look outstanding there and he beat a very very good flex @ this show, thanks for the pics many Ive never seen before, this really casual arm picture of flex IMO shows just how incredible flex's outrageous proportions really were back then :o :o :o
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Flex got robbed. The crowd even booed the decision.
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Paul has better shape and symmetry than Wolf, also he may have been in better conditioning, for the standards were higher back then.
Flex came in too heavy, and if you look at his face he has that bloated full look. Like insulin? I know in his Mass Construction vid which was filmed after the 1996 Mr. O, he had a gut, that he had to hold in, it was pretty big too, not good for someone claiming a 27 inch waist back in 1993.
haha cause he just pigged the fuk out after the show. If you've ever competed, and consumed the amount of food these guys do, you can't hold your bloated stomach in very well. His waist looked small as fuk still though.
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So you think ND is wrong?
when was he ever right? 8)
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Levrone was around 260 for that show supposedly. Huge.
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great show.lineup too,last yr for ray with fake hair to change look,and flex too.they all looked full and conditioned enough ,not sick dry but good enough,builds had good overall look and at least everyone had different look .today all the same blocky,short,spongy look to muscle.
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That was the year Shawn wore the hair replacement system.
The Beef
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Man! 1996....... That was an Arnold CLASSIC
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Levrone was around 260 for that show supposedly. Huge.
No way, Dillet was 270 at 6'1"!
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Damn they looked good. Would love to see those type of physiques again on stage.
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somebody died for us shortly afterwards, now that's dedication unlike the pros of today display
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Flex got robbed. The crowd even booed the decision.
Yes but Kevin doesn't look off in any pics like the magazine reports said
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What a difference nearly two decades can make.
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before this show sean ray said that the day he gets beat by a 40 year old (Vince Taylor) is the day he retires
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Nice Rugs on Shawn and Porter cottrell
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If you combined that line up with this years lineup I think Wolfe would have been somewhere around 8th. Progress LOL
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Surprised to see Shawn Ray competing in the Arnold - I thought his modus operandi was to turn up once a year for a top-five Olympia finish?
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At that time Shawn thought he could enter the ASC in less than his usual Olympia shape and win. He was wrong.
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Kevin beats Flex
Do you agree that those guys were FAR superior to the current crop of pros? I know it's all subjective - and no one is "right" - but I just think that if you could time warp the current pros with the pros of 90's that it would be no contest... Dorian - Ronnie - Shawn - Flex - Kevin - Dillett - plenty other good ones...
I don't know what the reason is - just seems like the quality has dropped off
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Surprised to see Shawn Ray competing in the Arnold - I thought his modus operandi was to turn up once a year for a top-five Olympia finish?
Amnesia, at the time, the Arnold was where Kev and Flex reigned supreme...with no Dorian as the standard bearer, Shawn would have best come in sliced like a mofo. Remember he technically won it twice.
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Almost everyone at the time thought Flex won that show hands-down. KevLo was a bit harder in the hams and glutes, but Kevin had that classic "bloofy" look going. After the ASC, Dillet couldn't believe a "fat man" like Levrone could've won.
He wasn't fat at all, but he was definitely not at his best. VERY big, but not better.
As I recall, the final placings should've been something like this:
Flex
Kevin
Shawn
Paul
Vince tied with Andy ... Vince looked good, but Andreas was BIG and shredded. Vince was shapely as usual but looked 16 weeks out next to Munzer.
... then maybe Cottrell, then Roland Czir ... err, whatever: that ripped Polish/German kid who got robbed at the '94 O; etc., etc., until you reach Fux in last place. He was huge but smooth as a fucking whale. Even the other Roland, the Arnold lookalike, deserved to whoop his ass by virtue of far superior conditioning.
It was a great ASC overall, though. '95 was OK but Francois steamrolled that line-up. '94 could've been great if Dillet wasn't such a moron; KLo and Vince had a good "battle" :roll:, but without Paul in the mix, the rest of the field was pretty boring. Only '93 and maybe '97 or '98 were better.
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Almost everyone at the time thought Flex won that show hands-down. KevLo was a bit harder in the hams and glutes, but Kevin had that classic "bloofy" look going. After the ASC, Dillet couldn't believe a "fat man" like Levrone could've won.
He wasn't fat at all, but he was definitely not at his best. VERY big, but not better.
As I recall, the final placings should've been something like this:
Flex
Kevin
Shawn
Paul
Vince tied with Andy ... Vince looked good, but Andreas was BIG and shredded. Vince was shapely as usual but looked 16 weeks out next to Munzer.
... then maybe Cottrell, then Roland Czir ... err, whatever: that ripped Polish/German kid who got robbed at the '94 O; etc., etc., until you reach Fux in last place. He was huge but smooth as a fucking whale. Even the other Roland, the Arnold lookalike, deserved to whoop his ass by virtue of far superior conditioning.
It was a great ASC overall, though. '95 was OK but Francois steamrolled that line-up. '94 could've been great if Dillet wasn't such a moron; KLo and Vince had a good "battle" :roll:, but without Paul in the mix, the rest of the field was pretty boring. Only '93 and maybe '97 or '98 were better.
in 95 Flex had better shape, and to me was better than Mike Francois from the front. But, when they turned around, Mike had him. Flex was soft from the lower back-glute-hams, his trouble spot.
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Hey Andreas you are looking exceptionally ripped by the way you do know you have baseball size Styrofoam tumors in you liver right, oh ok just checking , I hear those things can kill ya.
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that was the first bbing show I ever saw.
flex was making his comeback after his car accident and was a fan fav.
back then I thought flex got robbed, but now, looking back I can see how you could give levrone the nod.
flex was a lil watery and 'thin' in some areas compared to levrone.
it was right after that that levrone supposedly found 'igf1' and put on 10-15lbs of muscle.. most likely he just bumped his gh dosage and added insulin.
levrone the year after looked like complete shit at the Arnold classic.. I think that was the year??.. but was the biggest I'd ever seen him at the MrO, then cut way down and tightened up for the Grand Prix and had his best ever showings during that grand prix... after that he had back problems and quit training legs... and probably started drinking a lil more. lol.
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That was when kevin would drink jack Daniels before prejudging and the finals and come out sliced
Wonder how munzers organs looked at this point?
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Holy shit Darrem competed even back then? The dude has been around for a while.
darrem has been a pro since 92
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http://www.flexonline.com/general-news/tales-columbus?page=5
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Kevin beats Flex
I was in fucking kindgegarten or first grade or something
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Conditioning, symmetry, calves and a full head of hair.. Far cry from today...
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Anybody remember seeing the enlarged Musclemag pic of Flex from the 1997 Arnold?
(http://www.getbig.com/magazine/musmag/mmi-9707.jpg)
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Let's see some pics of Flex from 93' where he was shredded to the bone ~
Then maybe some nice shots of Mike Fracois, Claude Groulx, Porter Cotrell, Charles Clairmont, Hamdullah Aykutluh...
I haven't seen any pics of these guys in years and they had some rockin' physiques. Even though Charles Clairmont looked scarier than Frankenstein and Dillett combined, he had an amazing physique ~
I wonder what Vic Richards looks like today also... hmmmmmmmmmm
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(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x263/timeamajorova/flexwheeler93c_zpse549b677.jpg) (http://s183.photobucket.com/user/timeamajorova/media/flexwheeler93c_zpse549b677.jpg.html)
(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x263/timeamajorova/Shreddedtothebone_zpsbd57c5f7.jpg) (http://s183.photobucket.com/user/timeamajorova/media/Shreddedtothebone_zpsbd57c5f7.jpg.html)
(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x263/timeamajorova/CandaceYoga_zps75c720cc.jpg) (http://s183.photobucket.com/user/timeamajorova/media/CandaceYoga_zps75c720cc.jpg.html)
Random....
sorry ~
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Anybody remember seeing the enlarged Musclemag pic of Flex from the 1997 Arnold?
(http://www.getbig.com/magazine/musmag/mmi-9707.jpg)
Fuck this thread i want to see more pics of Cori Nadine
(http://i2.listal.com/image/2645112/600full-cori-nadine.jpg)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv177/jicase3/buns/cori_nadine_074t5553b_yIzCx5S_sized.jpg)
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Fuck this thread i want to see more pics of Cori Nadine
(http://i2.listal.com/image/2645112/600full-cori-nadine.jpg)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv177/jicase3/buns/cori_nadine_074t5553b_yIzCx5S_sized.jpg)
Yeah, me too...I used to have that mag...and that pic of Cori Nadine is why i willl always remember it
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Paul Dillet used to own huge guns. I wonder if they were bigger than Pacos guns.
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Paul Dillet used to own huge guns. I wonder if they were bigger than Pacos guns.
yeah, chances are they were bigger than Paco's, you have to remember Paul competed from 265-285.
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Paul Dillet used to own huge guns. I wonder if they were bigger than Pacos guns.
absolutely. dude had the largest muscular arms I've ever seen.. as in not filled with oil (not 'obviously' filled like kovacs that is).
paco's are good.. or great, but his arms are shorter.. dillet's arms are long and the muscle bellies were full from top to bottom.
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Dillet's arms were ridiculous! definitely bigger than Paco's or anybody else's except maybe Ronnies off-season at his biggest!
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Go to 5:50 for the answer
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Dillet's arms were ridiculous! definitely bigger than Paco's or anybody else's except maybe Ronnies off-season at his biggest!
And no one ever really talked about this much, but his forearms were retarded huge, as were his calves. A very sick genetic combination of freakish bodyparts.
Like everyone said, if his back had kept up, he wouldn't have even had to show up on stage the day of the show. They'd just mail him the trophy every year.
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And no one ever really talked about this much, but his forearms were retarded huge, as were his calves. A very sick genetic combination of freakish bodyparts.
Like everyone said, if his back had kept up, he wouldn't have even had to show up on stage the day of the show. They'd just mail him the trophy every year.
True, what could have been!
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that was the first bbing show I ever saw.
flex was making his comeback after his car accident and was a fan fav.
back then I thought flex got robbed, but now, looking back I can see how you could give levrone the nod.
flex was a lil watery and 'thin' in some areas compared to levrone.
it was right after that that levrone supposedly found 'igf1' and put on 10-15lbs of muscle.. most likely he just bumped his gh dosage and added insulin.
levrone the year after looked like complete shit at the Arnold classic.. I think that was the year??.. but was the biggest I'd ever seen him at the MrO, then cut way down and tightened up for the Grand Prix and had his best ever showings during that grand prix... after that he had back problems and quit training legs... and probably started drinking a lil more. lol.
Hmm ... what was the year Levrone turned up looking like total garbage at the ASC?
I think it actually was the 1997 rendition -- good call, ESF! And yeah, he looked awful. About 25 lbs. too heavy, like he hadn't even dieted for the thing. I think he got 8th place that year, which was a gift. But sure enough, he did tighten up for the Mr. O and looked really big and pretty good. I'm thinking he was in third? And he did win a few Grand Prix shows. Nasser whipped him in a couple, and Ronnie won the Russian show. Apart from maybe the '98 ASC, in which I think Ronnie competed (?????), Levrone never "won" against Coleslaw again :D
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Hmm ... what was the year Levrone turned up looking like total garbage at the ASC?
I think it actually was the 1997 rendition -- good call, ESF! And yeah, he looked awful. About 25 lbs. too heavy, like he hadn't even dieted for the thing. I think he got 8th place that year, which was a gift. But sure enough, he did tighten up for the Mr. O and looked really big and pretty good. I'm thinking he was in third? And he did win a few Grand Prix shows. Nasser whipped him in a couple, and Ronnie won the Russian show. Apart from maybe the '98 ASC, in which I think Ronnie competed (?????), Levrone never "won" against Coleslaw again :D
Ronnie competed in 97 ASC as well. I think Levrone got 5 or 6th in 97 ASC, with Lee Priest ahead of him. In 99 he was flat and apparently wore his posing trunks backwards, according to Nasser.
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Hmm ... what was the year Levrone turned up looking like total garbage at the ASC?
I think it actually was the 1997 rendition -- good call, ESF! And yeah, he looked awful. About 25 lbs. too heavy, like he hadn't even dieted for the thing. I think he got 8th place that year, which was a gift. But sure enough, he did tighten up for the Mr. O and looked really big and pretty good. I'm thinking he was in third? And he did win a few Grand Prix shows. Nasser whipped him in a couple, and Ronnie won the Russian show. Apart from maybe the '98 ASC, in which I think Ronnie competed (?????), Levrone never "won" against Coleslaw again :D
96/98 KEV WAS AT HIS BIGGEST,,97 SHAVED HEAD HE WAS MASSIVE BUT LOST LINES/CONDITION
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Flex looking like synthol in arms and delts already here
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Hmm ... what was the year Levrone turned up looking like total garbage at the ASC?
I think it actually was the 1997 rendition -- good call, ESF! And yeah, he looked awful. About 25 lbs. too heavy, like he hadn't even dieted for the thing. I think he got 8th place that year, which was a gift. But sure enough, he did tighten up for the Mr. O and looked really big and pretty good. I'm thinking he was in third? And he did win a few Grand Prix shows. Nasser whipped him in a couple, and Ronnie won the Russian show. Apart from maybe the '98 ASC, in which I think Ronnie competed (?????), Levrone never "won" against Coleslaw again :D
Yeah, Levrone looked pretty bad at the 1997 AC (Pic below). Also, Ronnie didn't compete at the 1998 AC. The last two AC Ronnie competed in was in 1997 and then 2001. The last show Levrone beat Ronnie was at the 1998 San Francisco Pro and in my opinion Ronnie should of won (pics below).
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Yeah, Levrone looked pretty bad at the 1997 AC (Pic below). Also, Ronnie didn't compete at the 1998 AC. The last two AC Ronnie competed in was in 1997 and then 2001. The last show Levrone beat Ronnie was at the 1998 San Francisco Pro and in my opinion Ronnie should of won (pics below).
Ronnie is owning the shit out of levrone
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classic LevrOWNINGS
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ironically before being mr. olympia ronnie was robbed in many shows taking lower places than what he deserved.. then after being mr. olympia he sometimes won without being the best onstage!!!..
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ironically before being mr. olympia ronnie was robbed in many shows taking lower places than what he deserved.. then after being mr. olympia he sometimes won without being the best onstage!!!..
its' that 'paying your dues' bullshit that ruins the sport. cutler was at his best years before he won the olympia.
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absolutely. dude had the largest muscular arms I've ever seen.. as in not filled with oil (not 'obviously' filled like kovacs that is).
paco's are good.. or great, but his arms are shorter.. dillet's arms are long and the muscle bellies were full from top to bottom.
Thats true that Pacos arms are shorter. Then Pauls arms are more than 24inchs.....jeez..
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its' that 'paying your dues' bullshit that ruins the sport. cutler was at his best years before he won the olympia.
Wolf too in 2007 and a couple of yrs ago when he placed second to branch at the AC
Now He won the AC and placed 3rd at the recent O arguably not at his best
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No way, Dillet was 270 at 6'1"!
Yup. He climbed up from 240 pounds (competition) and peaked at around 290 pounds by 1999/2000. Offseason weight was 310-330 pounds.
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SHAWN RAY LOOKED GREAT AT THIS SHOW....EVEN TOUPEE ;D
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dillet looked great in this show.. look at him standing relaxed beside levrone!!..
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Yup. He climbed up from 240 pounds (competition) and peaked at around 290 pounds by 1999/2000. Offseason weight was 310-330 pounds.
He won the North American at around 255!
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sick lineup.
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its' that 'paying your dues' bullshit that ruins the sport. cutler was at his best years before he won the olympia.
If that's true, then Darrem paid his dues for a LONG time, with no complaints.
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NASSER would have won that show had he competed in it.
His immediate-prior show, the 95 Olympia, he got 3rd and Kevin got 2nd since he was the new up and commer and they weren't quite ready to place him above Kevin yet. At the 96 Olympia the judges did place Nasser ahead of Kevin though (prior to the disqualification B.S.) but it showed that by 96 the judges were willng to give Nasser the nod above Kevin - same would have happened had he competed in the 96 AC
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If that's true, then Darrem paid his dues for a LONG time, with no complaints.
Darrem won nine ifbb pro shows., shows he wouldn't have won had he not paid his dues.
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Darrem won nine ifbb pro shows., shows he wouldn't have won had he not paid his dues.
yeah, but he had been a pro since 92, and the first of his 9 Pro wins came in 2002, that is 10 yrs of paying your dues. 10 yrs of getting shafted.
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yeah, but he had been a pro since 92, and the first of his 9 Pro wins came in 2002, that is 10 yrs of paying your dues. 10 yrs of getting shafted.
Yes he competed in an era with kevin, Chris, dex, Shawn, lee, Nasser, Dorian, flex, Ronnie, etc... To even place is a accomplishment.
He would win all pro shows now, hell he's beaten a young Phil too
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NASSER would have won that show had he competed in it.
His immediate-prior show, the 95 Olympia, he got 3rd and Kevin got 2nd since he was the new up and commer and they weren't quite ready to place him above Kevin yet. At the 96 Olympia the judges did place Nasser ahead of Kevin though (prior to the disqualification B.S.) but it showed that by 96 the judges were willng to give Nasser the nod above Kevin - same would have happened had he competed in the 96 AC
Yates would've won if he competed
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so much better than the let down at the asc this year. bb has regressed