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Title: 1995 Arnold Classic
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 06, 2009, 06:39:20 AM
Flex lost and this was Lee Labrada's last pro show
Title: Re: 1995 Arnold Classic
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 06, 2009, 06:40:07 AM
 :)
Title: Re: 1995 Arnold Classic
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 06, 2009, 06:40:43 AM
 ;)
Title: Re: 1995 Arnold Classic
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 06, 2009, 06:41:30 AM
 :)
Title: Re: 1995 Arnold Classic
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 06, 2009, 06:42:28 AM
 :)
Title: Re: 1995 Arnold Classic
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 06, 2009, 06:43:22 AM
 :D
Title: Re: 1995 Arnold Classic
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 06, 2009, 06:43:58 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: 1995 Arnold Classic
Post by: closeline on December 06, 2009, 06:45:00 AM
Andreas Munzer should have taken this show

Flex was a close second
Title: Re: 1995 Arnold Classic
Post by: Meso_z on December 06, 2009, 09:09:01 AM
very thick backs....
Title: Re: 1995 Arnold Classic
Post by: nycbull on December 06, 2009, 09:58:18 AM
Munzer is more ripped than the rest but it goes unoticed at that level, and that little difference is what killed him. Too bad he thought he needed to go that extra yard, when it really wasnt necessary.
Title: Re: 1995 Arnold Classic
Post by: Immortal_Technique on December 06, 2009, 10:04:46 AM
Are Baker's calves fake? Weren't they really weak about 1 year before this?

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=309458.0;attach=349780;image)

I think it's very noticable how much more ripped Munzer is than most of the others. Didn't people say because of his comparitive lack of size that he was "living on his striations", haha. Baker had the size but his condition was unimpressive which cost him. Flex's uneven conditioning on his flabby hams is what puts him in second, plus a lot less thickness than Francois, who nailed it that year!
Title: Re: 1995 Arnold Classic
Post by: Hulkster on December 06, 2009, 10:39:46 AM
Flex looked good there.

Title: Re: 1995 Arnold Classic
Post by: Danimal77 on December 06, 2009, 11:00:20 AM
Flex looked good there.



Ronnie looked better  ;)
Title: Re: 1995 Arnold Classic
Post by: Parker on December 06, 2009, 11:12:38 AM
Flex looked pretty good for someone coming off of a severe neck injury. But he deserved 2nd place. His hams and lower back are softer than his 1993 form. In essence, we are seeing the downward spiral of Flex. I remember him saying that he saw the 1994 Mr. O and was in awe, said he couldn't stand up those monsters. So for 1995, he tried to overcompensate. I firmly believed if Flex came in slightly heavier, like one or two pounds heavier than his 1993 form (216 pound for the 93 ASC) he would have won.

I've always been a fan of Francois, a little more polish, and he just might have won a Mr. O.
Title: Re: 1995 Arnold Classic
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on December 06, 2009, 11:24:08 AM
was labrada really off at this show or he was just the same as his previous shapes but it was just the time to kick him out?
Title: Re: 1995 Arnold Classic
Post by: Figo on December 06, 2009, 11:41:37 AM
Labrada wasnt as sharp anymore, difficult to compete against monsters such as Clairmonte, Francois, Levrone, Yates, Nasser, that had top conditioning as well, whilst he was a smaller guy with great shape, but couldnt realistically beat them if they were "on".

 Its good he hung it up whilst at the top. Instead of dragging it out ala Bannout, Nasser, Gaspari, etc
Title: Re: 1995 Arnold Classic
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on December 06, 2009, 11:56:22 AM
Labrada wasnt as sharp anymore, difficult to compete against monsters such as Clairmonte, Francois, Levrone, Yates, Nasser, that had top conditioning as well, whilst he was a smaller guy with great shape, but couldnt realistically beat them if they were "on".

 Its good he hung it up whilst at the top. Instead of dragging it out ala Bannout, Nasser, Gaspari, etc

i am just wondering because from these pics he looks the same or let me say close to his best shape that had made him 2nd at AC 93 and 4th at Mr. O of the same year.. how come to put him behind clairmonte and munzer all of a sudden like this??.. i personaly feel clairmonte had a great physique and could beat labrada but logically it seemed to me as if "they" just wanted him out because the type of his physique belonged to a previous era so they treated with him harshly and not as before!!..
Title: Re: 1995 Arnold Classic
Post by: Figo on December 06, 2009, 12:11:31 PM
as if "they" just wanted him out because the type of his physique belonged to a previous era so they treated with him harshly and not as before!!..

Yeah, a changing of the guard...
Title: Re: 1995 Arnold Classic
Post by: Hulkster on December 06, 2009, 12:13:44 PM
Ronnie looked better  ;)

of course he did, when at his physical peak he looked better than everyone 8)
Title: Re: 1995 Arnold Classic
Post by: Figo on December 06, 2009, 12:15:00 PM
of course he did, when at his physical peak he looked better than everyone 8)

Cant argue with that!
Title: Re: 1995 Arnold Classic
Post by: Parker on December 06, 2009, 12:16:27 PM
i am just wondering because from these pics he looks the same or let me say close to his best shape that had made him 2nd at AC 93 and 4th at Mr. O of the same year.. how come to put him behind clairmonte and munzer all of a sudden like this??.. i personaly feel clairmonte had a great physique and could beat labrada but logically it seemed to me as if "they" just wanted him out because the type of his physique belonged to a previous era so they treated with him harshly and not as before!!..
I remember reading a Flex dedication or Big Picture article of him, it said his highest weight was 196! He was definitely of a diff era.
Title: Re: 1995 Arnold Classic
Post by: BIG DUB on December 06, 2009, 12:22:25 PM
I still have the VCR tape, i recoreded it when it came on tv!
Title: Re: 1995 Arnold Classic
Post by: johnny1 on December 06, 2009, 04:45:27 PM
 :o :o :o :o awesome proportions, down somewhat in size but still awesome lines
Title: Re: 1995 Arnold Classic
Post by: bigbobs on December 06, 2009, 04:51:01 PM
His 1st place at the 95 AC put him as one of the expected top contenders for the Olympia that year but instead he got 7th place and the NOC winner (Nasser El Sonbaty) demolished him at the Olympia that year (getting 3rd), and every time Nasser and Francois competed after that Nasser beat him.  It just took the judges till 95 to accept that fact, and that's why they unfairly gave Francois 1st and Nasser 2nd at the 94 NOC.
Title: Re: 1995 Arnold Classic
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on December 06, 2009, 04:52:08 PM
His 1st place at the 95 AC put him as one of the expected top contenders for the Olympia that year but instead he got 7th place and the NOC winner (Nasser El Sonbaty) demolished him at the Olympia that year (getting 3rd), and every time Nasser and Francois competed after that Nasser beat him.  It just took the judges till 95 to accept that fact, and that's why they unfairly gave Francois 1st and Nasser 2nd at the 94 NOC.
good post 8)
Title: Re: 1995 Arnold Classic
Post by: Flexb on December 06, 2009, 04:55:24 PM
Flex looked pretty good for someone coming off of a severe neck injury. But he deserved 2nd place. His hams and lower back are softer than his 1993 form. In essence, we are seeing the downward spiral of Flex. I remember him saying that he saw the 1994 Mr. O and was in awe, said he couldn't stand up those monsters. So for 1995, he tried to overcompensate. I firmly believed if Flex came in slightly heavier, like one or two pounds heavier than his 1993 form (216 pound for the 93 ASC) he would have won.


Flex's best was in '98 -- even Arnold said that was the best bodybuilder he's ever seen step on stage. He combined excellent condition with good size and his crazy shape. Flex was just getting back to competing in the '95 Arnold's after that car wreck.
Title: Re: 1995 Arnold Classic
Post by: Royalty on December 06, 2009, 06:30:44 PM
His 1st place at the 95 AC put him as one of the expected top contenders for the Olympia that year but instead he got 7th place and the NOC winner (Nasser El Sonbaty) demolished him at the Olympia that year (getting 3rd), and every time Nasser and Francois competed after that Nasser beat him.  It just took the judges till 95 to accept that fact, and that's why they unfairly gave Francois 1st and Nasser 2nd at the 94 NOC.

trust me, the 1998 ASC wouldve been tough for Flex and Nasser if Francios showed up. Mike was HUGE 6 weeks out.....better than ever. But Mike literally almost died right before the show.
Title: Re: 1995 Arnold Classic
Post by: Flexb on December 06, 2009, 07:38:27 PM
Mike was great but no way he beats an "on" Flex