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Student kills prof
www.nypost.com
By CYNTHIA R. FAGEN
Last Updated: 11:21 AM, December 6, 2009
Posted: 4:08 AM, December 6, 2009
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An upstate graduate student was charged yesterday with stabbing a beloved anthropology professor to death.
Saudi national Abdulsalam Al-Zahrani, 46, was held without bail for the murder of Binghamton University professor Richard Antoun, 77, an expert on comparative religion, authorities said.
Al-Zahrani, a cultural-anthropology grad student, allegedly pulled out a six-inch kitchen knife and stabbed Antoun four times in the chest in the professor's campus office Friday.
Student Devin Sheppard said the suspect was at the scene when cops arrived.
"The police asked the grad student, 'Did you just stab him?' and he said, 'Yes.' "
Gov. Paterson said Antoun would "live on in his writing, his research, and in his students, whose lives he forever changed."
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The professor was a convert to Judaism.
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Another asswipe who is now going to cost NY taxpayers a ton of money because of his peaceful religious beliefs.
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arm the teachers.
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But I've been told that Islam is a peaceful religion. ::)
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But I've been told that Islam is a peaceful religion. ::)
The last moron resident of the WH repeated that nonsense way too many times.
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But I've been told that Islam is a peaceful religion. ::)
Of course it is....as long as you follow the teachings of the Muslim who has a gun to your head...
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Student kills prof
www.nypost.com
By CYNTHIA R. FAGEN
Last Updated: 11:21 AM, December 6, 2009
Posted: 4:08 AM, December 6, 2009
________________________ ________________________ _________________-
An upstate graduate student was charged yesterday with stabbing a beloved anthropology professor to death.
Saudi national Abdulsalam Al-Zahrani, 46, was held without bail for the murder of Binghamton University professor Richard Antoun, 77, an expert on comparative religion, authorities said.
Al-Zahrani, a cultural-anthropology grad student, allegedly pulled out a six-inch kitchen knife and stabbed Antoun four times in the chest in the professor's campus office Friday.
Student Devin Sheppard said the suspect was at the scene when cops arrived.
"The police asked the grad student, 'Did you just stab him?' and he said, 'Yes.' "
Gov. Paterson said Antoun would "live on in his writing, his research, and in his students, whose lives he forever changed."
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The professor was a convert to Judaism.
Hmmmm... very strange circumstance indeed. A person who converted to Judaism is teaching a class on Comparative Religion/anthropology encounters a 46 YEAR OLD GRAD STUDENT who, as the story puts it, stabs the teacher repeatedly for no reason. This student is questioned by the police (you mean he stayed there until the police arrived?)..Did you stab this teacher? (odd questioning) and he replies YES!...and yet offers no reason why.
Just operating on possibilities there is one of two reasons why this happened. One, we will soon find out this student was first a student of VIrginia Tech/School of the Americas/DARPA or was a person once in the military; or TWO, there were comments/threats/religious discrimination hurled at this Saudi national by this now jew who looks upon all Arabs as LESS THAN PEOPLE who should be EXTERMINATED.
This is not a case of someone who at that age, just suddenly snapped for no reason. There is more to this story and shortly it will all be discovered.
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Hmmmm... very strange circumstance indeed. A person who converted to Judaism is teaching a class on Comparative Religion/anthropology encounters a 46 YEAR OLD GRAD STUDENT who, as the story puts it, stabs the teacher repeatedly for no reason. This student is questioned by the police (you mean he stayed there until the police arrived?)..Did you stab this teacher? (odd questioning) and he replies YES!...and yet offers no reason why.
Just operating on possibilities there is one of two reasons why this happened. One, we will soon find out this student was first a student of VIrginia Tech/School of the Americas/DARPA or was a person once in the military; or TWO, there were comments/threats/religious discrimination hurled at this Saudi national by this now jew who looks upon all Arabs as LESS THAN PEOPLE who should be EXTERMINATED.
This is not a case of someone who at that age, just suddenly snapped for no reason. There is more to this story and shortly it will all be discovered.
Maybe he got an F on a paper he turned in?
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Hey, who would've thought that Samson would paint this guy as the victim? Shocker! Kudos on caps-locking certain words to prove your idiotic point.
And what does his age have to do with it? I had a 60+ year old guy in one of my classes at school. Have had plenty of older people in other classes as well. ::)
I'm curious as to who should be teaching a class on comparative religion as well. Maybe a Muslim? They are, after all, the most tolerant people on the planet. Samson's jihadist loving posts are proof of that. LOL.
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Hmmmm... very strange circumstance indeed. A person who converted to Judaism is teaching a class on Comparative Religion/anthropology encounters a 46 YEAR OLD GRAD STUDENT who, as the story puts it, stabs the teacher repeatedly for no reason. This student is questioned by the police (you mean he stayed there until the police arrived?)..Did you stab this teacher? (odd questioning) and he replies YES!...and yet offers no reason why.
Just operating on possibilities there is one of two reasons why this happened. One, we will soon find out this student was first a student of VIrginia Tech/School of the Americas/DARPA or was a person once in the military; or TWO, there were comments/threats/religious discrimination hurled at this Saudi national by this now jew who looks upon all Arabs as LESS THAN PEOPLE who should be EXTERMINATED.
This is not a case of someone who at that age, just suddenly snapped for no reason. There is more to this story and shortly it will all be discovered.
And may I add how lucky we Amercans are to have an individual with your superior investigative skills, top secret inside knowledge, and formidable intellectual prowess, keeping us enlightened with the "facts". It's a wonder DARPA hasn't come after you.....yet.....
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And may I add how lucky we Amercans are to have an individual with your superior investigative skills, top secret inside knowledge, and formidable intellectual prowess, keeping us enlightened with the "facts". It's a wonder DARPA hasn't come after you.....yet.....
Haha, it's amazing what sort of information Samson is privy to. It's even more astounding considering he said he lives in southern France. His hacking skills must be second to none. Every time this clown slinks back after getting owned off here he makes a bigger fool of himself. ::)
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To add insult to injury, literally, we have to pay for this vermin for the rest of his life now.
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Haha, it's amazing what sort of information Samson is privy to. It's even more astounding considering he said he lives in southern France. His hacking skills must be second to none. Every time this clown slinks back after getting owned off here he makes a bigger fool of himself. ::)
;D
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To add insult to injury, literally, we have to pay for this vermin for the rest of his life now.
If I was a professor, I would definately carry my G26 or something else on me.
This professor was probably a physicqally weak lamb led to slaughter by this murderous animal. He probably never even saw it coming.
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Another asswipe who is now going to cost NY taxpayers a ton of money because of his peaceful religious beliefs.
that's not tracey morgan
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that's not tracey morgan
You're right it is not...
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Another asswipe who is now going to cost NY taxpayers a ton of money because of his peaceful religious beliefs.
Too bad he wasn't the Christian who kidnapped the little girl and made her a sex slave for 13 years. He's gonna cost the California taxpayer millions because of his sexual slavery religious beliefs.
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Oz- the difference is that the psycho you are reffering to didn't kidnap and rape the girl because he was on a mission from god-- his attrocities are not the by product of religion. He didn't rape and kidnap in the name of jesus.
What makes these muslim fanatics scarier and more destructive is the fact that they believe they are mandated by God to commit these acts on violence on random innocents in efforts to promote a world wide holy war.
Somehow, I don't think child molesters and rapists are part of a fanatical anti US ideology whose aim is to replace all of the world governments with child molesters and rapists.
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Oz- the difference is that the psycho you are reffering to didn't kidnap and rape the girl because he was on a mission from god-- his attrocities are not the by product of religion. He didn't rape and kidnap in the name of jesus.
What makes these muslim fanatics scarier and more destructive is the fact that they believe they are mandated by God to commit these acts on violence on random innocents in efforts to promote a world wide holy war.
Somehow, I don't think child molesters and rapists are part of a fanatical anti US ideology whose aim is to replace all of the world governments with child molesters and rapists.
I understand what you are saying. But what is constant here is they are both pyschos. If it was the religion, then virtually every muslim would be doing this.
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Right.
But psychos are always going to exist in the world-- random murders, abductions etc.--- all you can do is be careful and watch your ass.
Child Molesters and rapists are of all races and backgrounds-- They aren't predominantly once race or religious background.
Islam on the other hand, is a breeding ground for terrorists. Mosques in every country preach jihad-- and as we are seeing now, the Mosques that exist in America are just as insane and radical as the ones in the middle east.
It certainly is the religion-- because no other religion today breeds terroists. So, while not all muslims are terrorists, all terrorists are muslim.
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George (as usual) is spot on. Oz, ignorance is not owned by islamic radicals alone but we cannot be so blinded as to not acknowledge that radical islamics are committing disproportional crimes and murders in the name of religion now. Most religions have had a horrible past but have evolved some. Too many muslims haven't and the islamic religion seems to breed a disproportional # of violent fanatics, even if the majority are not.
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Right.
But psychos are always going to exist in the world-- random murders, abductions etc.--- all you can do is be careful and watch your ass.
Child Molesters and rapists are of all races and backgrounds-- They aren't predominantly once race or religious background.
Islam on the other hand, is a breeding ground for terrorists. Mosques in every country preach jihad-- and as we are seeing now, the Mosques that exist in America are just as insane and radical as the ones in the middle east.
It certainly is the religion-- because no other religion today breeds terroists. So, while not all muslims are terrorists, all terrorists are muslim.
I disagree.
You don't see too many examples of suicide bombers that are american muslims. I could be wrong, but nothing comes to mind. You do however, see that in the ME where much of the culture is 13th century. American muslims don't do stuff like that here for the most part, because of modern culture. I'm talking about 2nd and 3rd generation muslims. Not the immigrant that's been here for 10 years and kills his daughter.
I'm not saying Islam is free of blame, but i do believe it's triggered more by the culture. Take the 13th century culture out, and you have your basic muslim many of which I know in California, who acts like any other american.
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George (as usual) is spot on. Oz, ignorance is not owned by islamic radicals alone but we cannot be so blinded as to not acknowledge that radical islamics are committing disproportional crimes and murders in the name of religion now. Most religions have had a horrible past but have evolved some. Too many muslims haven't and the islamic religion seems to breed a disproportional # of violent fanatics, even if the majority are not.
But,
There are other factors i believe that have a greater impact on the people. Namely the culture. You don't see too many 2nd and 3rd generation muslims acting like this here in the USA.
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I disagree.
You don't see too many examples of suicide bombers that are american muslims. I could be wrong, but nothing comes to mind. You do however, see that in the ME where much of the culture is 13th century. American muslims don't do stuff like that here for the most part, because of modern culture. I'm talking about 2nd and 3rd generation muslims. Not the immigrant that's been here for 10 years and kills his daughter.
I'm not saying Islam is free of blame, but i do believe it's triggered more by the culture. Take the 13th century culture out, and you have your basic muslim many of which I know in California, who acts like any other american.
How can it be the culture when Muslims across the world exhibit the same radical beliefs? Muslims in the Phillipines aren't much different from Muslims in Saudi Arabia who aren't any different from the Muslims in Africa or Chechnya despite the fact that there are glaring cultural differences between each country and its people.
If it was the culture and not Islam itself then the striking similarities displayed by Muslims across the world wouldn't exist.
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How can it be the culture when Muslims across the world exhibit the same radical beliefs? Muslims in the Phillipines aren't much different from Muslims in Saudi Arabia who aren't any different from the Muslims in Africa or Chechnya despite the fact that there are glaring cultural differences between each country and its people.
If it was the culture and not Islam itself then the striking similarities displayed by Muslims across the world wouldn't exist.
All those places you just named are practically 3rd world. NOT modern culture.
You ever live in a 3rd world country? I have. Grew up in one. Go to TJ sometime, see what things are like.
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All those places you just named are practically 3rd world. NOT modern culture.
Again, there are glaring cultural differences between each country.
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Again, there are glaring cultural differences between each country.
Not when it comes to places where law enforcement is weak.
Think about it. Africa? The southern Philippines?
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Ok- but what's your point?
That muslim terrorists who are home grown commit murders in the name of Islam, but not suicide bombings?
I fail to see the difference. Both are premeditated acts of violence against unarmed, innocent civilians in the name of "God".
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Yeah Oz, some of it is culture too, agreed...but I have read stories of 2nd & 3rd generation transplant muslims growing up in the UK becoming terrorists, which means that the islamic religion itself has some attraction to violent extremism. Also culture and religion are inseparable with islamic fundamentalists. Just like any religion, it depends on the interpretation by the leaders but there is some strong language in sharia law that is more demanding than other religions. I think islamic traditions are by definition more antiquated and backward (like the Roman Catholic Church in times past).
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Not when it comes to places where law enforcement is weak.
Think about it. Africa? The southern Philippines?
Ask yourself why it is like that? Why is the southern Philippines is like it is? Extremist Muslims waging a holy war for their own state. The Northern Philippines (the Catholic majority area) is pretty modern and a decent place. Why is Northern Africa viewed as MUCH, MUCH more violent than Southern Africa? What's the dominant religion in Northern Africa?
What is the dominant religion in Darfur?
Could it be that Islam breeds third-world culture? If that's the case, then it comes back to Islam being the reason. :D
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Too bad he wasn't the Christian who kidnapped the little girl and made her a sex slave for 13 years. He's gonna cost the California taxpayer millions because of his sexual slavery religious beliefs.
OK show me where in the new testiment that Jesus said it was right to kidnap and rape children. There is a huge difference in thinking god is talking to you and doing what is contrary to the whole premise of the religion, and doing what the religion teaches. I am in the process of reading the Koran, just reading the book has a tendancy to agitate me, not sure why. But if a casual reading gets that effect from it I can only imagine what goes through the minds of the people that live it.
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Yeah Oz, some of it is culture too, agreed...but I have read stories of 2nd & 3rd generation transplant muslims growing up in the UK becoming terrorists, which means that the islamic religion itself has some attraction to violent extremism. Also culture and religion are inseparable with islamic fundamentalists. Just like any religion, it depends on the interpretation by the leaders but there is some strong language in sharia law that is more demanding than other religions. I think islamic traditions are by definition more antiquated and backward (like the Roman Catholic Church in times past).
I'm not surprised about the UK they roll over an pander to muslims there.
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OK show me where in the new testiment that Jesus said it was right to kidnap and rape children. There is a huge difference in thinking god is talking to you and doing what is contrary to the whole premise of the religion, and doing what the religion teaches. I am in the process of reading the Koran, just reading the book has a tendancy to agitate me, not sure why. But if a casual reading gets that effect from it I can only imagine what goes through the minds of the people that live it.
Part of the christian bible is the old testament where slavery and genocide are enacted by God. I got a copy of the koran. I feel if you put a religion like Isam in a place like the ME then you get crap like that. But american muslims don't do that.
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Ask yourself why it is like that? Why is the southern Philippines is like it is? Extremist Muslims waging a holy war for their own state. The Northern Philippines (the Catholic majority area) is pretty modern and a decent place. Why is Northern Africa viewed as MUCH, MUCH more violent than Southern Africa? What's the dominant religion in Northern Africa?
What is the dominant religion in Darfur?
Could it be that Islam breeds third-world culture? If that's the case, then it comes back to Islam being the reason. :D
No. Lots of other things breed a third world culture. However, a religion like Islam flourishes in it.
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Part of the christian bible is the old testament where slavery and genocide are enacted by God. I got a copy of the koran. I feel if you put a religion like Isam in a place like the ME then you get crap like that. But american muslims don't do that.
Yes but the laws of the old testament do not apply to Christians, the old testament or Torah is there to show the proficies etc that prove Jesus is the messiah. Most don't even understand the OT yet use it as a proof, but there is a religion board for that discussion
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where did it say this guy's motivation had anything to do with Islam?
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Yes but the laws of the old testament do not apply to Christians, the old testament or Torah is there to show the proficies etc that prove Jesus is the messiah. Most don't even understand the OT yet use it as a proof, but there is a religion board for that discussion
I understand OT laws don't apply. My point is, lack of a modern culture (Law enforcement, judicial systems, poverty, less infrastructure and basics like education, resources, utilities etc) is more the cause not the religion. Otherwise we'd see 2nd and 3rd generation muslim in america going bad shit at christian churches in America.
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I understand OT laws don't apply. My point is, lack of a modern culture (Law enforcement, judicial systems, poverty, less infrastructure and basics like education, resources, utilities etc) is more the cause not the religion. Otherwise we'd see 2nd and 3rd generation muslim in america going bad shit at christian churches in America.
Not buying it. If that's the case, how do you account for relatively peaceful 3rd world nations? Tunisia, Mozambique, Ghana, Gabon, Bhutan...
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Not buying it. If that's the case, how do you account for relatively peaceful 3rd world nations? Tunisia, Mozambique, Ghana, Gabon, Bhutan...
Then by the same token how do you account for the peaceful muslims in America?
Great point. Might be other reasons. I just think the situation in the ME is a perfect breeding ground for radical Islam. Hatred of the jews, constant violence, and America's Jewish support lets recruitment flourish. That combined with a lack of education and a 13th century under culture, this is what you get.
Saying it is the religion is incorrect.
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Then by the same token how do you account for the peaceful muslims in America?
Great point. Might be other reasons. I just think the situation in the ME is a perfect breeding ground for radical Islam. Hatred of the jews, constant violence, and America's Jewish support lets recruitment flourish. That combined with a lack of education and a 13th century under culture, this is what you get.
Saying it is the religion is incorrect.
Oz this is utter nonsense. A recent poll which was done on a global scale shows that Muslims worldwide-- regardless of education, wealth or geographic location overwhelmingly believe 911 was done by Israeli agents or the US, that suicide bombing is acceptable and that the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are wars against Islam. A peaceful muslim is not a non-radical muslim-- it just means a muslim that hasn't openly engaged in jihad. Of course, most muslims aren't going to strap bombs to their chest and take out a local shopping mall-- but support for such acts, whether active or passive is support nonetheless. This religion breeds insanity. Pointing to something in the old testament does not rationalize or explain the fact that muslims today are the most violent, backwards people in the world.
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Oz this is utter nonsense. A recent poll which was done on a global scale shows that Muslims worldwide-- regardless of education, wealth or geographic location overwhelmingly believe 911 was done by Israeli agents or the US, that suicide bombing is acceptable and that the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are wars against Islam. This religion breeds insanity. Pointing to something in the old testament does not rationalize or explain the fact that muslims today are the most violent, backwards people in the world.
Really? Show me the poll. That's lunacy. But i wouldn't be too surprised is it's 3rd world muslims.
A peaceful muslim is not a non-radical muslim-- it just means a muslim that hasn't openly engaged in jihad. Of course, most muslims aren't going to strap bombs to their chest and take out a local shopping mall-- but support for such acts, whether active or passive is support nonetheless.
Support based on what they believe is right just as we support what we believe is right.
This religion breeds insanity. Pointing to something in the old testament does not rationalize or explain the fact that muslims today are the most violent, backwards people in the world.
This religion breeds insanity because it's prevalent in a perfect breeding ground. Take away the the ground, and they are no different than american muslims.
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If we had suicide bombers in the USA who were 2nd or 3rd generation muslims because they were acting out their religious faith I'd agree with you.
To say it's the "muslim" religion is incorrect. To say it isn't the muslim religion is incorrect also. The religion does play a part in it. I agree to that.
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Most of the 9/11 Hijackers were Saudi's, they were educated. What drives an educated person to highjack a plane and crash it into a building? Why is that in prison so many are converted to Islam? It's because the actions are justified as doing the will of allah. Violence against infidels, domination of women all in the name of Islam. Muslims always qualify everything with "god willing" therefore what they do isn't wrong or right it is gods will if they succeed or fail. The fact that you are promissed what would be considered material things to become a martyr is fucked up on many levels. I can thing of a couple of instances of American mulsims going the jihad route, John Walker Lindh aka the American taliban, Adam Ghadan or Azam the American.
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where did it say this guy's motivation had anything to do with Islam?
Straw - he didnt like the fact that the class was scheduled for 3:00 in the afternoon.
WTF is wrong with you?