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How do you do it? Need advices. Also no access to bodybuilding drugs.
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How do you do it? Need advices. Also no access to bodybuilding drugs.
not going to work, but if you change your mind>>>>>>>>DNP
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not going to work, but if you change your mind>>>>>>>>DNP
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how does one obtain? Legal?
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Without drugs you'll lose mostly muscle on extreme diets. Think of all the work you did to make gains before you shit it away. Diets take time.
4600 cal/day loss. You can't be for real.
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how does one obtain? Legal?
beets the hell out of me...i am scared shitless of that stuff.
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Read my blog I wrote yesterday...
www.mpftraining.ning.com
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Read my blog I wrote yesterday...
www.mpftraining.ning.com
Is that the right link Coach?
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Sorry..
www.mpftrainingsystems.n ing.com
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Is that the right link Coach?
OK he fixed it. I will check it out coach. Thanks.
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Sorry..
www.mpftrainingsystems.n ing.com
It says 'No gimmicks.' C'mon, lemme in! Just this once! ;D
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So coach are you saying it's impossible or that it is possible but you need lots of hard work and spot on nutrition?
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Oh its possible, but do you want to do it the right way or the wrong way. What do think the chances are of at least 50% of that weight coming back are?
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Oh its possible, but do you want to do it the right way or the wrong way. What do think the chances are of at least 50% of that weight coming back are?
Well basically I start school in just a little over 4 weeks, so I want to look as good as I can becuase I have really let myself go lol. Your advices are welcomed.
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lose 40lbs in 30 seconds......
chop off your legs.
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lose 40lbs in 30 seconds......
chop off your legs.
^^^^^^^^^
benchmstr approved!!!
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Here's an example. One of my fighters Jay Silva got his first UFC fight a couple of months ago against CB Dollaway. His fight before that was August 15, he won that fight. After 3 weeks of not doing shit (against my wishs) he blew up to 215..he fights at 185. He calls me from NY saying he's just got his first UFC fight......8 days from when he called me. He takes a red eye back that night. I had to have him drop 30lbs in 8 days, he made weight but was it the right way? Hell no, even though he lost fight by decision by one point due to take downs, Dollaway on the other hand had to be carried out, have 37 stitches abouve his eye and IV's. Jay came out unscathed but totally gasses from dropping to much weight to fast in a dangerous way. Follow me?
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How about in a day?
http://www.elitefts.com/documents/cut_max_weight_for_comp.htm (http://www.elitefts.com/documents/cut_max_weight_for_comp.htm)
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Here's an example. One of my fighters Jay Silva got his first UFC fight a couple of months ago against CB Dollaway. His fight before that was August 15, he won that fight. After 3 weeks of not doing shit (against my wishs) he blew up to 215..he fights at 185. He calls me from NY saying he's just got his first UFC fight......8 days from when he called me. He takes a red eye back that night. I had to have him drop 30lbs in 8 days, he made weight but was it the right way? Hell no, even though he lost fight by decision by one point due to take downs, Dollaway on the other hand had to be carried out, have 37 stitches abouve his eye and IV's. Jay came out unscathed but totally gasses from dropping to much weight to fast in a dangerous way. Follow me?
Ok so doing it the right way, what is the best protocol?
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2-3lbs per week at the most until you reach your goal. For you, portion controlled, 2or3-1 carb to protein ratio low in fats. No secrets, don't get technical just be smart.
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wow..its miracle...40lbs in 30 days
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stop eating
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2-3lbs per week at the most until you reach your goal. For you, portion controlled, 2or3-1 carb to protein ratio low in fats. No secrets, don't get technical just be smart.
whats with the ratio then if its all about not being smart?
your better off reversin that ratio to limit insulin
but lets get real here ===> calorie deficit........though you say the same thing, ie portion control
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Not possible and not worth the muscle loss.
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How do you do it? Need advices. Also no access to bodybuilding drugs.
entirely possible. you just need will power.
first eat nothing but protein every day, no carbs or fats except 2 teaspoons of healthy essential fats a day.
also you will need a good multi vitamin+minerals - i'd recommend 2-4 a day.
this will work trust me - it worked for me.
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Ask kiwiol.
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Gino, if you control your portions there is no need to drop carbs. People have been so damn scared of carbs thinking that you have to drop carbs to drop weight, that's rediculous. If insulin is a concern just use lower GI carbs.
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Gino, if you control your portions there is no need to drop carbs. People have been so damn scared of carbs thinking that you have to drop carbs to drop weight, that's rediculous. If insulin is a concern just use lower GI carbs.
Qft. I couldn't workout for shit on low carbs, no power (well...compared), no endurance, definitely lost muscle without anabolic help. Sex drive was less than 1/day as well. Fuck that.
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Gino, if you control your portions there is no need to drop carbs. People have been so damn scared of carbs thinking that you have to drop carbs to drop weight, that's rediculous. If insulin is a concern just use lower GI carbs.
::) low gi carbs huh ::)
like it makes an ounce of difference. - don't you get paid for this shit ? you'd think you would know what your talking about ::)
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low gi = teh insulinz = teh fatz
alochol = teh estrogenz = teh bitch titz
everbody knows that
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::) low gi carbs huh ::)
like it makes an ounce of difference. - don't you get paid for this shit ? you'd think you would know what your talking about ::)
Moderated bloodsugar, no glycogen loss. Good plan for cal debt.
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Moderated bloodsugar, no glycogen loss. Good plan for cal debt.
in the famous words of a smart getbigger
bloodsugar is irrelevant !
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in the famous words of a smart getbigger
bloodsugar is irrelevant !
Maybe for some but I crave hard with low carbs and get, shall we say, 'discontented.' It's easier for me to maintain a moderate cal debt with slow burning, cal sparse, high volume foods, and my drive is still there for workouts.
On the other hand I still think 1 lb/wk of true fat loss , week after week with no loss in strength or drive, is impressive.
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::) low gi carbs huh ::)
like it makes an ounce of difference. - don't you get paid for this shit ? you'd think you would know what your talking about ::)
MMmmm........ok ::)
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low gi = teh insulinz = teh fatz
alochol = teh estrogenz = teh bitch titz
everbody knows that
Who said anything about "low" insulin?
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::) low gi carbs huh ::)
like it makes an ounce of difference. - don't you get paid for this shit ? you'd think you would know what your talking about ::)
You must of missed the part where I said "if insulin is a concern".
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Triple post meltdown.
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Triple post meltdown.
Needed to get caught up.
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entirely possible. you just need will power.
first eat nothing but protein every day, no carbs or fats except 2 teaspoons of healthy essential fats a day.
also you will need a good multi vitamin+minerals - i'd recommend 2-4 a day.
this will work trust me - it worked for me.
I said if he wanted to do it RIGHT!!
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low gi = teh insulinz = teh fatz
alochol = teh estrogenz = teh bitch titz
everbody knows that
Is this a blanket statement?
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entirely possible. you just need will power.
first eat nothing but protein every day, no carbs or fats except 2 teaspoons of healthy essential fats a day.
also you will need a good multi vitamin+minerals - i'd recommend 2-4 a day.
this will work trust me - it worked for me.
WTF?
If you have an overweight football player as an example training 5 days per week doing 2 a days......are you going to actually have them follow that??????
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Who said anything about "low" insulin?
I don't think I did, I was just kidding around.
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I said if he wanted to do it RIGHT!!
first: nice 7 post meltdown.
second: what is right in your opinion? if he can lose fat at the maximum possible rate, while keeping health at perfect levels whats the problem ??
third: i was unaware we were discussing an overweight football player. If we were, yes i would do things differently by adding pre workout carbs too, and before you ask low gi carbs would not be high on my agenda ::)
fourth: If he decides he wants to keep working out, he can, but obviously it won't be volume workouts.
fifth: You must of missed the part where I said "if insulin is a concern".
insulin is irrelevant ;D
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you'd be in big trouble if you lost that much weight that quickly, besides it's pretty much impossible unless you starve yourself. The only thing close to that I heard was Lee Preist who dropped 50lbs in 10 weeks to prepare for the Olympia and looked like absolute dogshit finishing in 15th place, smooth as all hell. cant be done im afraid mate.
ill try find the pics of that olympia to proove my point.
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I think it's safe to say his conditioning was 'off' on this show.
(http://www.frankzane.com/images/olympia200312sm.jpg)
(http://www.frankzane.com/images/olympia200311sm.jpg)
(http://www.frankzane.com/images/olympia20039sm.jpg)
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bloodsugar is irrelevant !
insulin is irrelevant ;D
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Dropping carbs for the person who's only intension is just to drop weight is a set up for sure failure.
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Dropping carbs for the person who's only intension is just to drop weight is a set up for sure failure.
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entirely possible. you just need will power.
first eat nothing but protein every day, no carbs or fats except 2 teaspoons of healthy essential fats a day.
also you will need a good multi vitamin+minerals - i'd recommend 2-4 a day.
this will work trust me - it worked for me.
That sounds like a Falcon recommendation
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For how long for 30days? Sure it will if he can hang for that long....then what? You think some will go carb free with no repercussions? Get real. Quick fixes work for the short that when people fail. Drop 40lbs in 30 days and what do have left???
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For how long for 30days? Sure it will if he can hang for that long....then what? You think some will go carb free with no repercussions? Get real. Quick fixes work for the short that when people fail. Drop 40lbs in 30 days and what do have left???
??? so you think his body will just shut down ? his thyroid will bounce back within a week. exercise will still stimulate it too. He'll probably be feeling great due to the detox effect, and have energy and strength will be through the roof once the carbs are added back.