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Marcin Najman - 100.2 kg / 221 lbs
Mariusz Pudzianowski - 125.8 kg / 277 lbs
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more pics here
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The man with more muscle always wins, so this one's obviously going to be taken by Mariusz.
What would be more interesting and more of an even matchup is Mariusz vs. a 277 lb pro bodybuilder.
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The man with more muscle always wins, so this one's obviously going to be taken by Mariusz.
What would be more interesting and more of an even matchup is Mariusz vs. a 277 lb pro bodybuilder.
Are you high? Assuming both got equal fighting skills, Mariusz would absolutely murder the pro BB. He's got unmatched strength (literally one of the strongest men in the world) and he actually has some stamina which can't be said for the bodybuilder.
What's the BB gonna do? Pose him to submission? Rub protan on him?
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The man with more muscle always wins, so this one's obviously going to be taken by Mariusz.
What would be more interesting and more of an even matchup is Mariusz vs. a 277 lb pro bodybuilder.
Oh brother, clearly you know jack and shit about the fight game....Tell that to Bob Sapp...
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his legs looks small
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Oh brother, clearly you know jack and shit about the fight game....Tell that to Bob Sapp...
Bob Sapp was big but fat.
However someone who is big and lean like a contest shape Ronnie Coleman, Nasser El Sonbaty or Markus Ruhl would destroy either of these guys with their raw size.
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Are you high? Assuming both got equal fighting skills, Mariusz would absolutely murder the pro BB. He's got unmatched strength (literally one of the strongest men in the world) and he actually has some stamina which can't be said for the bodybuilder.
What's the BB gonna do? Pose him to submission? Rub protan on him?
Strongest man in the world" is hard to measure. Sure he can probably pick up a round heavy stone and carry it far, but can he deadlift 800 lbs for 2 or more reps like Ronnie Coleman?
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Strongest man in the world" is hard to measure. Sure he can probably pick up a round heavy stone and carry it far, but can he deadlift 800 lbs for 2 or more reps like Ronnie Coleman?
i think he can do more than 800lbs for deads, saw him squatting once with 7 plates like its featherlight weight.
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Strongest man in the world" is hard to measure. Sure he can probably pick up a round heavy stone and carry it far, but can he deadlift 800 lbs for 2 or more reps like Ronnie Coleman?
Overall functional strength wise, yes he is one the strongest men on this planet. Can Ronnie pull a truck for a longer distance without having a heart attack? Mariusz personal bests:
* Bench press - 287.5 kg (632.5 lbs)
* Squat - 380 kg (836 lbs)
* Deadlift - 420 kg (924 lbs)
* Clean - 210 kg (462 lbs)
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i think he can do more than 800lbs for deads, saw him squatting once with 7 plates like its featherlight weight.
I think I know the video you are referring to, he did one rep with quite a few plates (i thought 6?) and it looked like he could do more reps but he did not make it look light IMO.
Ronnie Coleman in his last warmup set in his video did 600 lb FRONT squats quite comfortably for fast reps.
Advantage in fight = Ronnie
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online stream?
looks like mariusz lost alot of leg mass.
no idea if he will do well..alot of muscle isnt a guarantee of anything if you fight a skilled fighter
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Overall functional strength wise, yes he is one the strongest men on this planet. Can Ronnie pull a truck for a longer distance without having a heart attack? Mariusz personal bests:
* Bench press - 287.5 kg (632.5 lbs)
* Squat - 380 kg (836 lbs)
* Deadlift - 420 kg (924 lbs)
* Clean - 210 kg (462 lbs)
Ronnie front squatted 800 lbs for 2 and that's well beyond his powerlifting years, if he was training for power he'd be well above that. So Mariusz squatted 4-5% more weight than Ronnie for 50% less reps, and you're saying he can take Ronnie in a fight? Fightin is not about how long you can move a truck for, but how much you can bench press, your overall size and shape of your muscles
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Bobs stick to nasser...you know nothing about fighting...I'll leave it at that.
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his legs looks small
ya due to dieting to and lots endurance work
strength is good but at some point it doesnt matter if you squat 380kg or 290kg
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ya due to dieting to and lots endurance work
strength is good but at some point it doesnt matter if you squat 380kg or 290kg
Wrong
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Wrong
no its not wrong...because in this case mariusz obviously had to loose weight..and by doing alot of cardio he will loose leg size and strength...he will still be way stronger than his opponent..thus it doesnt matter if he squat 380kg or 290kg in this case. you dont know alot about fighting. im not gonna discuss this more.
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no its not wrong...because in this case mariusz obviously had to loose weight..and by doing alot of cardio he will loose leg size and strength...he will still be way stronger than his opponent..thus it doesnt matter if he squat 380kg or 290kg in this case. you dont alot about fighting. im not gonna discuss this more
Whoever has more muscle will win
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Whoever has more muscle will win
ok ill reply one last time..no its def not that simple..i seen many times stronger guys loose to more skilled fighter with greater speed.
i think you are a good guy but read some articles and books about fighting and watch some matches on Tv and you will understand ;)
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any good live stream site?
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ok ill reply one last time..no its def not that simple..i seen many times stronger guys loose to more skilled fighter with greater speed.
i think you are a good guy but read some articles and books about fighting and watch some matches on Tv and you will understand ;)
The "stronger" guys you're referring to were probably not trying as hard, or did not have as much muscle mass and round muscle bellies. Also how do you know they were stronger in the first place?
No matter what articles and books say common sense says that whoever has the most muscle (and best muscle shape) will always come out on top in a fight
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Titus always bragged how he destroyed a 180lbs mma fighter.
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Ronnie front squatted 800 lbs for 2 and that's well beyond his powerlifting years, if he was training for power he'd be well above that. So Mariusz squatted 4-5% more weight than Ronnie for 50% less reps, and you're saying he can take Ronnie in a fight? Fightin is not about how long you can move a truck for, but how much you can bench press, your overall size and shape of your muscles
When did he front squat 800? I recall him doing regular squats with 800 in the redemption video.. the only front squats I can remember is from the unbelievable video where he front squats 600 something lbs.
Pulling a truck takes an extraordinary amount of strength, endurance and coordination. Not just strength. The same with fighting. What the hell does the shape of the muscles matter??
Besides you mentioned that the BBer being in contest condition would somehow favor them which doesn't make a whole lotta sense... they're at their weakest when they're at such bodyfat levels.
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ronnie did front squats with 260kg 4-5 in his second video...maybe he has done more when not video taped but i dont think he has done 800lbs for 2 reps..on front squats... back squats 360kg or so for 2 reps i saw in his video
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The "stronger" guys you're referring to were probably not trying as hard, or did not have as much muscle mass and round muscle bellies. Also how do you know they were stronger in the first place?
No matter what articles and books say common sense says that whoever has the most muscle (and best muscle shape) will always come out on top in a fight
Fedor looks like a doughy couch poatoe and he's probably the best in the world. He won fights against fighters with alot more muscles than him with ease.
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When did he front squat 800? I recall him doing regular squats with 800 in the redemption video.. the only front squats I can remember is from the unbelievable video where he front squats 600 something lbs.
Pulling a truck takes an extraordinary amount of strength, endurance and coordination. Not just strength. The same with fighting. What the hell does the shape of the muscles matter??
Besides you mentioned that the BBer being in contest condition would somehow favor them which doesn't make a whole lotta sense... they're at their weakest when they're at such bodyfat levels.
Maybe my memory is off but I thought he was doing 800 lb front squats in redemption. Okay, even if he did 800 regular sqauats for two reps that's more impressive that Mariusz' 836 lb squat for one rep, so in the end Ronnie would still beat him in a fight.
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The "stronger" guys you're referring to were probably not trying as hard, or did not have as much muscle mass and round muscle bellies. Also how do you know they were stronger in the first place?
No matter what articles and books say common sense says that whoever has the most muscle (and best muscle shape) will always come out on top in a fight
lol. This is the stupidest thing said today. BB's lift in a linear motion that is not useful for functional strength at all. Strong man lifts are off camber and develop POWER not just linear strength. Fighting is going to stress the muscles in non linear directions that will have a bber busting tendons and tearing muscles. You must be troll.
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Maybe my memory is off but I thought he was doing 800 lb front squats in redemption. Okay, even if he did 800 regular sqauats for two reps that's more impressive that Mariusz' 836 lb squat for one rep, so in the end Ronnie would still beat him in a fight.
bigbobs do you have information about nassers leg training...how much could he squat? i heard he did like 250-260kg for like 6-8 reps. nasser has perfect proportions for squats.
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lol. This is the stupidest thing said today. BB's lift in a linear motion that is not useful for functional strength at all. Strong man lifts are off camber and develop POWER not just linear strength. Fighting is going to stress the muscles in non linear directions that will have a bber busting tendons and tearing muscles. You must be troll.
So increasing strenght in linear movements is totally irrelevent for "functional" strength? ::) The power of your punch is practically directly proportional to how much you can close-grip bench press. You guys are just hurt because you know deep down that anytime a pro bodybuilder wishes to switch from bodybuilding to MMA they would take the "sport" by storm and destroy all of your heroes.
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Maybe my memory is off but I thought he was doing 800 lb front squats in redemption. Okay, even if he did 800 regular sqauats for two reps that's more impressive that Mariusz' 836 lb squat for one rep, so in the end Ronnie would still beat him in a fight.
You just keep avoiding arguments all the time. Shows that you've got no retort or real basis for your assumptions.
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Bob Sapp was big but fat.
However someone who is big and lean like a contest shape Ronnie Coleman, Nasser El Sonbaty or Markus Ruhl would destroy either of these guys with their raw size.
Contest shape? guys are gasping for air after a 3 minute posing routine , contest shape is the worse.
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bigbobs do you have information about nassers leg training...how much could he squat? i heard he did like 250-260kg for like 6-8 reps. nasser has perfect proportions for squats.
Thanks man, since he wasn't training for fighting ability he wouldn't always go as heavy as he could so he'd usually do 5 plates for squats at the end of his workout after pre-exhausting a lot.
I took a screenshot from his third video where he's doing deep hack squats with 9 plates and he got lots of reps.
Muscular Development quoted that he did a 700 lb one-rep squat shortly after his 95 NOC win.
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Oh God!!!
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Hope Bobs is joking... :D
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So increasing strenght in linear movements is totally irrelevent for "functional" strength? ::) The power of your punch is practically directly proportional to how much you can close-grip bench press. You guys are just hurt because you know deep down that anytime a pro bodybuilder wishes to switch from bodybuilding to MMA they would take the "sport" by storm and destroy all of your heroes.
This shows that you know absolutely NOTHING about the subject. Go participate in some local strongman event and get back to us. There is a MAJOR difference in the type of strength bodybuilders vs. strongmen possess.
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You just keep avoiding arguments all the time. Shows that you've got no retort or real basis for your assumptions.
Yeah he does that , he makes a bunch of blanket statements and when someone calls him on his claims he says he's not going to go on for pages like me and Hulkster
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This shows that you know absolutely NOTHING about the subject. Go participate in some local strongman event and get back to us. There is a MAJOR difference in the type of strength bodybuilders vs. strongmen possess.
So now there are "types" of strength? ::)
And like I said fighting ability is not all about strength either, but also muscle size, density and symmetry.
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So now there are "types" of strength? ::)
And like I said fighting ability is not all about strength either, but also muscle size, density and symmetry.
OK that's it, you're trolling.
As I said, go participate in a local strongman event and you'll see how far your bodybuilding strength takes you.
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So increasing strenght in linear movements is totally irrelevent for "functional" strength? ::) The power of your punch is practically directly proportional to how much you can close-grip bench press. You guys are just hurt because you know deep down that anytime a pro bodybuilder wishes to switch from bodybuilding to MMA they would take the "sport" by storm and destroy all of your heroes.
Now this proves your a gimmick account.... ;D
Fighting is very rarely is a linear movement, its not the straight punch, its the outside hooks and throwdowns that will get you.
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OK that's it, you're trolling.
As I said, go participate in a local strongman event and you'll see how far your bodybuilding strength takes you.
I guess gullibilility is inversely proportional to muscle mass (as fighting ability is direclty proportional to it). The less muscle, the more gullible...would explain why you have the most replies in this thread to me :D
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I guess gullibilility is inversely proportional to muscle mass (as fighting ability is direclty proportional to it). The less muscle, the more gullible...would explain why you have the most replies in this thread to me :D
And now you're reduced to insults... I rest my case.
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Maybe my memory is off but I thought he was doing 800 lb front squats in redemption. Okay, even if he did 800 regular sqauats for two reps that's more impressive that Mariusz' 836 lb squat for one rep, so in the end Ronnie would still beat him in a fight.
You really are one of the most retarded posters on this site... maybe you forget that Ronnie's squats with said weight were half ass, he barely went down at all, those weren't legit REAL squats to parallel.
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Now this proves your a gimmick account.... ;D
Fighting is very rarely is a linear movement, its not the straight punch, its the outside hooks and throwdowns that will get you.
And your outside hook power is directly proportional to how much you can do on machine flyes - practically identical movement.
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You really are one of the most retarded posters on this site... maybe you forget that Ronnie's squats with said weight were half ass, he barely went down at all, those weren't legit REAL squats to parallel.
they where also suited which takes off 50-100 lbs or so
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And now you're reduced to insults... I rest my case.
calm down it isn't that serious :)
You really are one of the most retarded posters on this site... maybe you forget that Ronnie's squats with said weight were half ass, he barely went down at all, those weren't legit REAL squats to parallel.
Did you even see the video? His squats were deep and would pass in any powerlifting contest. Hence, Ronnie would have the advantage over Mariusz in a fight.
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they where also suited which takes off 50-100 lbs or so
The 600 lb front squats for reps were not suited.
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And your outside hook power is directly proportional to how much you can do on machine flyes - practically identical movement.
Haha oh man, just one question: Have you ever tried some serious sparring/fighting yourself? I've got my ass kicked by people that deadlifts half of what I do. Gym lifts means shit.
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Haha oh man, just one question: Have you ever tried some serious sparring/fighting yourself? I've got my ass kicked by people that deadlifts half of what I do. Gym lifts means shit.
There's no point. Instead I can just have a friendly matchup with the opponent and see who can lift more in various movements, who weighs more, lower bf% and from there we would know who would win in a fight without actually going through the physical pain and potential injury of fighting.
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There's no point. Instead I can just have a friendly matchup with the opponent and see who can lift more in various movements, who weighs more, lower bf% and from there we would know who would win in a fight without actually going through the physical pain and potential injury of fighting.
Then you know absolutely nothing on this subject.
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calm down it isn't that serious :)
Did you even see the video? His squats were deep and would pass in any powerlifting contest. Hence, Ronnie would have the advantage over Mariusz in a fight.
Because he squats better !??!?! are you FUCKED !?!?
Mariusz has been boxing for 7 years and doing Kyokushin Kai for 15 years. End of thread.
STFU
Ronnie can't jog 2 minutes because he'll have a heart attack.
Mariusz has functional strength.
Mariusz > Ronnie
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I think Mariusz will be very impressive. He has a vicious streak a lot of gay guys have. I used to work on the door at a nightclub in Glasgow called Bennets which was mostly gay. These Queens could be really viscious with each other. I think Mariusz will really want to pummel his opponent until he is totally dominated and putty in his hands.
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There's no point. Instead I can just have a friendly matchup with the opponent and see who can lift more in various movements, who weighs more, lower bf% and from there we would know who would win in a fight without actually going through the physical pain and potential injury of fighting.
Physical pain and potential injury exist lifting weights ask Fux :-X
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Haha, Bobs sure did make me laugh a few times in this thread. Anyone who thinks he is serious is an idiot...lol
Good stuff Bobs.
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I think I know the video you are referring to, he did one rep with quite a few plates (i thought 6?) and it looked like he could do more reps but he did not make it look light IMO.
Ronnie Coleman in his last warmup set in his video did 600 lb FRONT squats quite comfortably for fast reps.
Advantage in fight = Ronnie
no, he did couple of reps with 8 plates aside, didnt look that easy opfcourse, he also did a 400 kg, 880lbs deadlift. 6 plates he repped out easy 10
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marius is pretty cut for a powerlifter, not a advantage in the deadlift and squats, the obese looking powerlifters do more weight than him
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Because he squats better !??!?! are you FUCKED !?!?
Mariusz has been boxing for 7 years and doing Kyokushin Kai for 15 years. End of thread.
STFU
Ronnie can't jog 2 minutes because he'll have a heart attack.
Mariusz has functional strength.
Mariusz > Ronnie
Whoa, getting pretty hurt that I pointed out that your hero Mariusz would lose to a pro bodybuilder in a fight? Yes squatting makes Ronnie a better fighter, as well as the fact that Ronnies' arms are bigger :P
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Haha, Bobs sure did make me laugh a few times in this thread. Anyone who thinks he is serious is an idiot...lol
Good stuff Bobs.
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I think Mariusz will be very impressive. He has a vicious streak a lot of gay guys have. I used to work on the door at a nightclub in Glasgow called Bennets which was mostly gay. These Queens could be really viscious with each other. I think Mariusz will really want to pummel his opponent until he is totally dominated and putty in his hands.
Is Mariusz really gay? Not that it would matter in a fight, just curious.
no, he did couple of reps with 8 plates aside, didnt look that easy opfcourse, he also did a 400 kg, 880lbs deadlift. 6 plates he repped out easy 10
Hmmm...well 8 plates is still 765 lbs, which is less than the 800 lbs that Ronnie sqauats in his video, so advantage in a fight is still Ronnie > Mariusz
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his legs looks small
That's where he lost the most size. He was 30 pounds heavier in his more recent WSM competitions.
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Fight link for all you ufcshmoes
http://www.justin.tv/komtv4
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Whoa, getting pretty hurt that I pointed out that your hero Mariusz would lose to a pro bodybuilder in a fight? Yes squatting makes Ronnie a better fighter, as well as the fact that Ronnies' arms are bigger :P
It's pretty obvious by now that you're trolling and good job at getting everyone riled up. But what does it say about you when people think you're being real with those stupid arguments?
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Is Mariusz really gay? Not that it would matter in a fight, just curious.
Oh yeah. In Poland he is out of the closet but he doesn't ram his gayness down your throat like some of them do.
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It's pretty obvious by now that you're trolling and good job at getting everyone riled up. But what does it say about you when people think you're being real with those stupid arguments?
Brutal attempt at trying to deflect your own gullibility :)
I practically told you I was joking on page 2 yet you kept on going :-\ lol
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Oh yeah. In Poland he is out of the closet but he doesn't ram his gayness down your throat like some of them do.
Keep fantasizing..
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Brutal attempt at trying to deflect your own gullibility :)
I practically told you I was joking on page 2 yet you kept on going :-\ lol
Which then brings us back to the argument that you just replied to. If say, kiwiol or dr. chimps would post the same stuff you just did, NO ONE would take them seriously. With you however most of us did. Now is that due to us being gullible or you seeming like the kinda guy that would actually say that kind of stuff with a straight face?
Allah Akbar.
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"sucksnobs" is quite the little troll today, he should stick to prancing around in Nassers used clothes
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Thanks man, since he wasn't training for fighting ability he wouldn't always go as heavy as he could so he'd usually do 5 plates for squats at the end of his workout after pre-exhausting a lot.
I took a screenshot from his third video where he's doing deep hack squats with 9 plates and he got lots of reps.
Muscular Development quoted that he did a 700 lb one-rep squat shortly after his 95 NOC win.
thank you :) i have this video and its packed with tip top inspiration.
next week i will do one of nassers fav splits:
arms
legs
chest/shoulders
back
with 5 workouts per week so everything gets hit every 6th day
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Which then brings us back to the argument that you just replied to. If say, kiwiol or dr. chimps would post the same stuff you just did, NO ONE would take them seriously. With you however most of us did. Now is that due to us being gullible or you seeming like the kinda guy that would actually say that kind of stuff with a straight face?
Allah Akbar.
He's one of my favorite's too!
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He's one of my favorite's too!
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Hahahahaha holy shit that's a hilarious picture!!!
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That was over quick
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He won so easy. Was about to kick the other guy in half and then ground and pound.
He moved scary fast, reminded of Brock Lessnar.
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He won so easy. Was about to kick the other guy in half and then ground and pound.
He moved scary fast, reminded of Brock Lessnar.
Yeah he did move fast for such a big guy
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So Mariusz won?
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Crap, I forgot Europe is 6 hours ahead..
guessing Mariusz won ?
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That was over quick
Was it literally just a few seconds?
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links anyone ?
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So Mariusz won?
Oh yeah lol started off real slow feeling out process than Mariusz went on a vicious offensive kicking to the legs and sending dude back , dude tripped up and GNP , Ref had to try an arm-bar Mariusz off of dude lol
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Here it is, just like I predicted he battered his ass like he had just insulted his new fur jacket.
http://www.justin.tv/clip/47139b821939ae1f
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there are some simple facts here for lovemonkey and BB.
i think BB has some good points really.
the key though is timing. but, IF you've got the strength already there, then you're going to achieve alot more than someone who has timing, but lacks strength.
thats the diff between powerlifters and BB'ers. But, it has to be said that many BB'ers are very strong- much stronger than MMA guys....MUCH!.
this crap about functional strength is ok to a certain extent, but they arent like completely unrelated concepts.
thats why weight training is done for sports. it does relate, and it is useful.
for me it still comes down to the chin though. these behemoths might cancel each other out on the floor, but theres no substitute for great timing and reaction. and the chin is as vulnerable as anyones (to a certain extent- we see guys with big ass necks who seem to have iron jaws- not traps, but necks).
maybe the big thick neck has some sort of cushioning against the brain/skull impact...dunno.
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is marius still doing WSM? or is he moving to fighting now. i wouldnt be surprised if he destroyed everyone he faced.
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Coleman cant run 100 yards on the beach without oxygen tank
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Mariusz won
;D
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The other guy is still alive... not bad... hope he meets Brockwurst...
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horrid fight
0 fighting skillz on pudz
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thank you :) i have this video and its packed with tip top inspiration.
next week i will do one of nassers fav splits:
arms
legs
chest/shoulders
back
with 5 workouts per week so everything gets hit every 6th day
wow, Im impressed, you know his split and training philosophy very well. He did train instinctively so sometimes he'd even go every day if you include some days where he'd just do calves abs and hyperextensions or what not, but when asked to put his training into a routine as close as possible he would say 3 days on, 1 day off, 2 days on, 1 day off so yeah 5 days a week and 4 splits so everything gets hit just a bit more than once a week...or or sometimes the 5th workout would be another back workout to prioritize his back so back 2x a week everything else once. Earlier on his split was Back then chest/bis/forearms, then delts/traps/tris and then legs, then later it was just like you said - bac then chest/delts then bis/tris/traps/forearms then legs 8)
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there are some simple facts here for lovemonkey and BB.
i think BB has some good points really.
the key though is timing. but, IF you've got the strength already there, then you're going to achieve alot more than someone who has timing, but lacks strength.
thats the diff between powerlifters and BB'ers. But, it has to be said that many BB'ers are very strong- much stronger than MMA guys....MUCH!.
this crap about functional strength is ok to a certain extent, but they arent like completely unrelated concepts.
thats why weight training is done for sports. it does relate, and it is useful.
for me it still comes down to the chin though. these behemoths might cancel each other out on the floor, but theres no substitute for great timing and reaction. and the chin is as vulnerable as anyones (to a certain extent- we see guys with big ass necks who seem to have iron jaws- not traps, but necks).
maybe the big thick neck has some sort of cushioning against the brain/skull impact...dunno.
Well we assumed that the scenario would be a strongman vs. a BB and they both had equal fighting skills/technique. My argument was that the strongman would have a great advantage with his phenomenal strength(functional/athletic) and endurance compared to the BB. A BB would be out of breath within 10 seconds. But whatever.
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his opponent is weak, a decent mma guy would knock him out hard if he came runnin in without defense like that.
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Mariusz won
WTF! Like watching a Japanese porno. 'Cept without the fake moaning.
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horrid fight
0 fighting skillz on pudz
::) ::) yeah..you would've had him tapping for sure.. ::) ::)
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::) ::) yeah..you would've had him tapping for sure.. ::) ::)
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Hmm. I didn't say that! Not cool!
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Mariusz should concentrate on getting some wrestling. He looks very vulnerable to getting knocked out by someone who doesn't drop their hands at the first kick. On the other hand, when he grabbed the guy, he looked like he was handling a ragdoll. He looks very capable of (skill withstanding) dominating when he has them in his grasp.
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Mariusz should concentrate on getting some wrestling. He looks very vulnerable to getting knocked out by someone who doesn't drop their hands at the first kick. On the other hand, when he grabbed the guy, he looked like he was handling a ragdoll. He looks very capable of (skill withstanding) dominating when he has them in his grasp.
With his grip strength alone, the other guy didn't stand a chance.
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he had shoes the other one had none ...thats quite an advantage when you kick.
Almost all hits landed nowhere near their target, it was like he was punching randomly in the air and the other guy just threw himself on his fists for some reasons, and ended throwing himself....on the ground ::) the guy was either scared to death or just faking. He for sure had 0 will to fight.
marius only punched the air like a fucking robot...not impressed at all by the performance, and the whole thing stinks, it looks fake/scripted seriously...
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Mariusz should concentrate on getting some wrestling. He looks very vulnerable to getting knocked out by someone who doesn't drop their hands at the first kick. On the other hand, when he grabbed the guy, he looked like he was handling a ragdoll. He looks very capable of (skill withstanding) dominating when he has them in his grasp.
Very true. His strength and speed alone is not for nothing. Give him some MMA specific training for a few months and I imagine he will be vastly improved.
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the guy was either scared to death or just faking. He for sure had 0 will to fight.
i dont blame him if i saw marius rushing at me full power with a firey insanity in his eyes determined to destroy me i would be damn scared too, plus i get the idea that marius wouldnt be the easiest guy to knock out even if he does leave himself a bit open. he doesnt even really have a neck. despite his lack of refinement i wouldnt really be surprised if anything other than a heart attack stops marius.
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His fighting style is roid-rage jitusu
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There's no point. Instead I can just have a friendly matchup with the opponent and see who can lift more in various movements, who weighs more, lower bf% and from there we would know who would win in a fight without actually going through the physical pain and potential injury of fighting.
Pussy!
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Pussy!
Are you calling bigboobs a pussy? He can outlift you and hence beat you in a fight
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it was seriously a weird fight
pudzianovski has 0 fighting skils...it's ok now but a profesional fighter would rip him a new asshole
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i think even i could have put up a better fight than his oponent, wtf he didn't even fight back he just went into the fetal position like a bitch. If i paid to see that "fight" i would ask for a refund.
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His fighting style is roid-rage jitusu
;D ;D ;D
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i think even i could have put up a better fight than his oponent, wtf he didn't even fight back he just went into the fetal position like a bitch. If i paid to see that "fight" i would ask for a refund.
No you wouldnt. Mariusz would eat you alive you skinny twink.
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That reminded me a lot of a young tyson but with less fighting skills. not a big fan of mma but even I think that was the ugliest thing I've ever seen. Went in like a tornado and destroyed everything in his path.
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No you wouldnt. Mariusz would eat you alive you skinny twink.
yes but i would put up a better fight than this guy did, i think he got paid by some mafia organisation.
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yes but i would put up a better fight than this guy did, i think he got paid by some mafia organisation.
You think you would put up a better fight than a trained fighter?? Mariusz would have pulled your head off your shoulders in 4 secs.
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looks fucking unbeatable
wow those kicks would have broken my legs in two halves
would be great to see him against brock
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it's funny when fedor beats big guys like pudz
every normal person would think that this bastard pudz would kill fedor but fedor shows again and again that he's the best
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Mariusz is a Kyokushin Karate practioner--hence the leg kicks and soft hand blocks.
He could be an absolute monster vs. b-tier guys.
I think strength is at least equal to skill, in terms of value in fighting.
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looks fucking unbeatable
wow those kicks would have broken my legs in two halves
would be great to see him against brock
Dude marious looked HORRIBLE, Flat on his fight right away, worthless technique, no head movement etc,
but his opponent was even worse, so this fight didnt really tell us anything besides what we already know, that marious is a strong basterd
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horrid fight
0 fighting skillz on pudz
exactly.
What former boxer do you know that stands flat on his feet from the start?
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Mariusz is a Kyokushin Karate practioner--hence the leg kicks and soft hand blocks.
He could be an absolute monster vs. b-tier guys.
I think strength is at least equal to skill, in terms of value in fighting.
if those retarded kicks, with no technique what so ever, comes from his karate background, he needs a new trainer.
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if those retarded kicks, with no technique what so ever, comes from his karate background, he needs a new trainer.
Dude, how much technique do you need when you are being fed a worthless opponent and you absolutely dwarf the guy?
Not much. Those kicks were effective. It's hard to say if he would perform the same way against a better quality fighter.
Against strong competition he would probably be more cautious. I'm sure Mariusz knew he was supposed to win this fight,
and threw caution to the wind.
Also his sheer size is going to prevent him from looking pretty when he throws a technique. He's like an oversized dwarf.
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Then again, I liked watching it anyway lol.
And I actually think the ref won that fight with an armbar :D
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Dude, how much technique do you need when you are being fed a worthless opponent and you absolutely dwarf the guy?
Not much. Those kicks were effective. It's hard to say if he would perform the same way against a better quality fighter.
Against strong competition he would probably be more cautious. I'm sure Mariusz knew he was supposed to win this fight,
and threw caution to the wind.
Also his sheer size is going to prevent him from looking pretty when he throws a technique. He's like an oversized dwarf.
Doing it the retarded way did obviously work.
BUT its not telling us One bit about his skills. SO we know he outpowered a dude weighing 100 pound less then him, what else do we know?
nothing.
He should have stayed relaxed and showed some good technique and he might have been picked up buy a larger organisation.
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Doing it the retarded way did obviously work.
BUT its not telling us One bit about his skills. SO we know he outpowered a dude weighing 100 pound less then him, what else do we know?
nothing.
He should have stayed relaxed and showed some good technique and he might have been picked up buy a larger organisation.
what a mother you are
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here we go again ::) ::)
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Doing it the retarded way did obviously work.
BUT its not telling us One bit about his skills. SO we know he outpowered a dude weighing 100 pound less then him, what else do we know?
nothing.
He should have stayed relaxed and showed some good technique and he might have been picked up buy a larger organisation.
This is reminiscent of Brock's first fight against the Korean. Remember how nervous he seemed? Everyone said the same thing--
he didn't show any skill. Well as he got accustomed to the ring, he became more relaxed. It remains to be seen if Mariusz will do the same.
I agree that he didn't show much skill, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have some skill. And a little skill with superhuman strength can take him far--
though not to the top.
Would more skill cause him to be picked up by a different organisation? That's questionable. It seems like promotions want exciting fighters;
not necessarily the best. Exciting fighters that pull off brutal knockouts sell tickets, and that's their main concern--especially in smaller orgs.
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This is reminiscent of Brock's first fight against the Korean. Remember how nervous he seemed? Everyone said the same thing--
he didn't show any skill. Well as he got accustomed to the ring, he became more relaxed. It remains to be seen if Mariusz will do the same.
I agree that he didn't show much skill, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have some skill. And a little skill with superhuman strength can take him far--
though not to the top.
Would more skill cause him to be picked up by a different organisation? That's questionable. It seems like promotions want exciting fighters;
not necessarily the best. Exciting fighters that pull off brutal knockouts sell tickets, and that's their main concern--especially in smaller orgs.
Everyone with half a brain knows Brock has SICK skills in wrestling.
No one knows that marious has skills is anything besides strongman.
No boxer stands flat on his feet right away. you do that when you're gassed out.
And someone raned krate since age 6 doesn't uckin hrow kicks like that Ask Sevaste.
I agree with tbe brock comparision though, Brock was waaaaya to stressed out at first. Now he has learned to calm down at first.
Marious should do the same thing hehe.
its fun to watch against subpar fighters, marius would have ben owned against a good fighter if he were to fight like that.
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it's funny when fedor beats big guys like pudz
every normal person would think that this bastard pudz would kill fedor but fedor shows again and again that he's the best
It would be like seeing Zuluzinho standing ad a bouncer at some place, 6"8 400 pounds witha fighjting background, you wouldnt think anyone could take that.
yet fedor made him his bitch within 20 sec :D
and this also hehe
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Kd6vhW0dW5E/SZqxChIHmLI/AAAAAAAABsc/M0uFcAdpPcw/s400/fedor-choi-sm-2.jpg)
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Everyone with half a brain knows Brock has SICK skills in wrestling.
No one knows that marious has skills is anything besides strongman.
No boxer stands flat on his fight right away. you do that when you're gassed out.
I agree with tbe brock comparision though, Brock was waaaaya to stressed out at first. Now he has learned to calm down at first.
Marious should do the same thing hehe.
He's not really a boxer--and boxing isn't the benchmark for great standup anyway.
Plenty of people with brains that just weren't familiar with Brock Lesnar outside of WWE didn't know he had good ground technique.
Not everyone can be an MMA geek like us you know. ;D
But let's compare Mariusz to that Rogers guy that gave Fedor the biggest trouble he's had in ages.
Is Rogers great on the ground? No. Not if you define greatness on the ground as technically skilled.
However, in absolute terms, he IS great--simply due to his strength.
Well Mariusz is MUCH stronger than Rogers, so don't underestimate the value of that.
Rogers just powered out of Fedors grapples; I'm sure Mariusz could do the same.
However he would be eaten alive in the standup.
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He's not really a boxer--and boxing isn't the benchmark for great standup anyway.
Plenty of people with brains that just weren't familiar with Brock Lesnar outside of WWE didn't know he had good ground technique.
Not everyone can be an MMA geek like us you know. ;D
But let's compare Mariusz to that Rogers guy that gave Fedor the biggest trouble he's had in ages.
Is Rogers great on the ground? No. Not if you define greatness on the ground as technically skilled.
However, in absolute terms, he IS great--simply due to his strength.
Well Mariusz is MUCH stronger than Rogers, so don't underestimate the value of that.
Rogers just powered out of Fedors grapples; I'm sure Mariusz could do the same.
However he would be eaten alive in the standup.
better assessment
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He's not really a boxer--and boxing isn't the benchmark for great standup anyway.
Plenty of people with brains that just weren't familiar with Brock Lesnar outside of WWE didn't know he had good ground technique.
Not everyone can be an MMA geek like us you know. ;D
But let's compare Mariusz to that Rogers guy that gave Fedor the biggest trouble he's had in ages.
Is Rogers great on the ground? No. Not if you define greatness on the ground as technically skilled.
However, in absolute terms, he IS great--simply due to his strength.
Well Mariusz is MUCH stronger than Rogers, so don't underestimate the value of that.
Rogers just powered out of Fedors grapples; I'm sure Mariusz could do the same.
However he would be eaten alive in the standup.
Rogers is a Good fighter, Marious isn't. Its more to Rogers then pure stenght, And right now thats All that marious has. HE could probably become a good fighter thoug, or at least a decent one if he keeps at it.
What I was saying with boxing is, Ive NEVER seen a former boxer standing flat on his feet right away and not moving his head at all.
hopefully next match, we see him against someone who can Actually fight.
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Rogers is a Good fighter, Marious isn't. Its more to Rogers then pure stenght, And right now thats All that marious has. HE could probably become a good fighter thoug, or at least a decent one if he keeps at it.
What I was saying with boxing is, Ive NEVER seen a former boxer standing flat on his feet right away and not moving his head at all.
hopefully next match, we see him against someone who can Actually fight.
I saw one once Randal Tex Cobb never moved his head or feet took a tremendous beating but never went down...a tough son of a bitch
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Rogers is a Good fighter, Marious isn't. Its more to Rogers then pure stenght, And right now thats All that marious has. HE could probably become a good fighter thoug, or at least a decent one if he keeps at it.
What I was saying with boxing is, Ive NEVER seen a former boxer standing flat on his feet right away and not moving his head at all.
hopefully next match, we see him against someone who can Actually fight.
We're basically saying the same thing; however it's too early to tell if Mariusz has skill.
I think he could be a top level B-fighter.
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big congrats to Mariusz Pudzianowski !
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We're basically saying the same thing; however it's too early to tell if Mariusz has skill.
I think he could be a top level B-fighter.
pretty much yes.
I just wishes he would have showed a little bit more skill.. Calmed down and throw one hard big overhand right and just ko the dude into oblivion lol.
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pretty much yes.
I just wishes he would have showed a little bit more skill.. Calmed down and throw one hard big overhand right and just ko the dude into oblivion lol.
Yeah, I'd like to see more too.
Give them a chance to build up his hype more, then we'll see him against someone that will test him.
He did what works. Sheer aggression will usually win over lesser skilled opponents. Always fighting defensively is a good way to loose.
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he probably just did was he was told.
the run over the dude :D
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Sure you think this guy can throw hands with a boxer ???
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strange ass sparring also, its like hes hitting with the upper part of his hand.
I would like to know exactly how deep his boxing background is.
He seems to hit hard though hehe, so Im still looking fprward to next fight lol
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About as deep as when he found out he'd be fighting MMA.
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Sure you think this guy can throw hands with a boxer ???
I don't.
I do think he could eat a boxer though.
Yeah, he didn't take up boxing until he started the MMA trip.
He was a karate guy before that.
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a profesional fighter would rip him a new asshole
nah i doubt it. ok maybe Fedor :D
he may not be a very technical fighter but he can move fast for a big guy and has endurance. and foremost hits hard!
comparing him to Bob Zapp like some here do is just plain stupid. Bob Zapp is a slow blob with zero coordination.
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nah i doubt it. ok maybe Fedor :D
he may not be a very technical fighter but he can move fast for a big guy and has endurance. and foremost hits hard!
comparing him to Bob Zapp like some here do is just plain stupid. Bob Zapp is a slow blob with zero coordination.
Comparing strongman endurance to MMA endurance is retarded so, you DONT know if he has endurance.
In thge sparring video he looks DEAD after a few min and thats ONLY boxing.
and I was the one comparing him to bob, watch bob's first fights, hes doing the Exact same thing that marious is, but faar better puncher. ..and thats saying alot lol.
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I bet he punches hard but his punching technique is very limited .
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Now this is someone that would be a good match for Kimbo!
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Wonder if Dana White is thinking "hhmmmmm Mariusz,worlds strongest man versus Kimbo Slice you tube backyard brawler sensation,now that would sell more tickets than Lidell versus Tito 3". ;D
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Mos definitely.
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Comparing strongman endurance to MMA endurance is retarded so, you DONT know if he has endurance.
In thge sparring video he looks DEAD after a few min and thats ONLY boxing.
and I was the one comparing him to bob, watch bob's first fights, hes doing the Exact same thing that marious is, but faar better puncher. ..and thats saying alot lol.
we'll see if he does better than Bob or not ;)
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Mariusz is strong but quite slow. And it is obvious that his punches lack a lot of power. He also lacks technique and control.
Against someone like Fedor Mariusz would be defeated very quickly.
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I saw one once Randal Tex Cobb never moved his head or feet took a tremendous beating but never went down...a tough son of a bitch
That was probably the famous fight with Holmes. Famous for the beating Cobb took and the distress it caused Howard Cosell -
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The Pudzianowski fight was meh, other than the sheer aggression he showed. Would be interesting to watch him fight other oddball tomato cans and journeymen like Kimbo, Sapp, etc... though.
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That was probably the famous fight with Holmes. Famous for the beating Cobb took and the distress it caused Howard Cosell -
The Pudzianowski fight was meh, other than the sheer aggression he showed. Would be interesting to watch him fight other oddball tomato cans and journeymen like Kimbo, Sapp, etc... though.
'The man with all powers of hell at his command...' ;D
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'The man with all powers of hell at his command...' ;D
Ah you are on it chimps, Raising Arizona a classic for sure ..
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Wonder if Dana White is thinking "hhmmmmm Mariusz,worlds strongest man versus Kimbo Slice you tube backyard brawler sensation,now that would sell more tickets than Lidell versus Tito 3". ;D
If Dana is thinking that then he's probably right!
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'The man with all powers of hell at his command...' ;D
Talk about a trip down memory lane. Cobb used to have a few villain parts in a few movies.
Did his appeal run out?
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Tex Cobb never any appeal Tyr he just walked up a said "I want to be in the movie or I'll beat your ass" ;D ;D