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Sen. Schumer rips Obama admin's cut to New York City's anti-terror funds
BY Richard Sisk
DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU
Saturday, December 12th 2009, 4:00 AM
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New York lawmakers ripped the Obama adminstration Friday for cutting the city's counterterror funding for transportation by more than $50 million even as threat levels are expected to increase.
"When the administration is wrong, they're wrong," said Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.). The city "remains the prime target of terrorists so it makes no sense for the administration to cut this money," Schumer said.
Schumer and Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.) said New York's share of the Transit Security Grant Program, run by the Department of Homeland Security, was slashed by $43 million for 2010 to $110.6 million from $153.3 million this year - a 28% cut.
Earlier, DHS chopped the Port Security Grant Program by about $11 million from $45 million to $33.8 million - a 25% reduction.
The port and mass transit security programs pay for such things as overtime, new sensor equipment and canine bomb-detection teams.
Administration officials have said that the cuts were partially offset by money that went to the city under Obama's economic stimulus program. But King said, "These cuts are indefensible."
"If anything, the terror threat to New York is increasing due to the Obama administration's decision to put Khalid Shaikh Mohammed and four 9/11 co-conspirators on trial in Manhattan," said King, ranking Republican on the House Homeland Security Committee.
Both King and Schumer said they would push to get the funding back in next year's budget.
rsisk@nydailynews.com
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2009/12/12/2009-12-12_chuck_rips_antiterror_fund_cuts.html#ixzz0ZUU7FhFC
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This coupled with moving the terrorists trials to NYC leads one to ask: What side is Obama on?
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Fuck New York City. It's symbolic of the direction the greater US is headed. Nothing but rich fucks and Wallstreet surrounded by everyone else trying to "get ahead" or in most cases keep their head above water. There is so much fucking wealth in NYC and they are complaining they are in a budget crisis. Tax the fuck out of the Upper East Side.......problem solved.
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Fuck New York City. It's symbolic of the direction the greater US is headed. Nothing but rich fucks and Wallstreet surrounded by everyone else trying to "get ahead" or in most cases keep their head above water. There is so much fucking wealth in NYC and they are complaining they are in a budget crisis. Tax the fuck out of the Upper East Side.......problem solved.
I live in the bouroughs and there are not too many rich people here.
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I said the Upper East Side. Not the "boroughs" in general. There is PLENTY of fucking money in New York county.
The County of New York is the most densely populated county in the United States, and one of the most densely populated areas in the world, with a 2008 population of 1,634,795[2] living in a land area of 22.96 square miles (59.47 kmē), or 71,201 residents per square mile (27,485/kmē). It is also one of the wealthiest counties in the United States, with a 2005 personal income per capita above $100,000.[3] Manhattan is the third-largest of New York's five boroughs in population.
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I said the Upper East Side. Not the "boroughs" in general. There is PLENTY of fucking money in New York county.
The County of New York is the most densely populated county in the United States, and one of the most densely populated areas in the world, with a 2008 population of 1,634,795[2] living in a land area of 22.96 square miles (59.47 kmē), or 71,201 residents per square mile (27,485/kmē). It is also one of the wealthiest counties in the United States, with a 2005 personal income per capita above $100,000.[3] Manhattan is the third-largest of New York's five boroughs in population.
Do you realize what the cost of living here is and taxes?
$100,000 is nothing and barely middle class.
In NYC - 40,000 taxpayers account for 50% of the revenue.
Bloomberg said if just 10,000 of those people move, the city will go bankrupt tommorow.
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Do you realize what the cost of living here is and taxes?
$100,000 is nothing and barely middle class.
In NYC - 40,000 taxpayers account for 50% of the revenue.
Bloomberg said if just 10,000 of those people move, the city will go bankrupt tommorow.
DUDE THAT'S MY POINT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The middle class is carrying the brunt of taxation. My god! Come on! Tax the fuck out of the rich fucks, banks, wallstreet etc. Not me! I don't give a fuck about NYC. I live on the West Coast. I don't even like visiting there. We have our own problems out here. That's the whole problem with this fucking country. No one is left to their own devices anymore. Everyone has their hand in the next guy's pocket. Well it's about time the middle class starts sticking their fucking hands in the rich man's pockets.
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DUDE THAT'S MY POINT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The middle class is carrying the brunt of taxation. My god! Come on! Tax the fuck out of the rich fucks, banks, wallstreet etc. Not me! I don't give a fuck about NYC. I live on the West Coast. I don't even like visiting there. We have our own problems out here. That's the whole problem with this fucking country. No one is left to their own devices anymore. Everyone has their hand in the next guy's pocket. Well it's about time the middle class starts sticking their fucking hands in the rich man's pockets.
I disagree. We shouldnt be targeting anyone. We need to stop the insane level of spending that requires the crazy taxes in the first place.
Rich folks spend money, and i would rather their money being spread in the private economy than being siphoned off to the govt.
The taxes here on everyone are just ridiculous. We get nickle and dimed on everything.
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I don't know that keeping or cutting funding would stop a terrorist attack. There's is so much vulnerabliity everywhere. Unless you want turn every city into lock down forget about it.
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I don't know that keeping or cutting funding would stop a terrorist attack. There's is so much vulnerabliity everywhere. Unless you want turn every city into lock down forget about it.
"When the administration is wrong, they're wrong," said Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.). The city "remains the prime target of terrorists so it makes no sense for the administration to cut this money," Schumer said.
It makes perfect sense Chuckie.
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"When the administration is wrong, they're wrong," said Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.). The city "remains the prime target of terrorists so it makes no sense for the administration to cut this money," Schumer said.
It makes perfect sense Chuckie.
No it doesn't. I'm surprise you of all people are advocating "throwing money" at a problem makes it better. You cannot make an entire city safe without putting it on lock down. Every city and any city is a prime target.
The other day i was talking to a gal who's father is a illegal immigrant. He was busted on a domestic violence crime and deported. TWO DAYS later he was back in the country.
You wanna spend the money wisely? Lock the border down!
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oh, go fck a duck dude. Bush was personally handed enough intel on a red-eye in middle of night, which could have easily stopped 911 attacks. your only defense (ignoring chain of command) is "well, someone at a lower level could have stopped it!"
But you're throwing feces because some lib NYer is mad obama is cutting his $, accusing him of letting another 911 happen - that hasn't even happened.
Shit man, put partisan politics in the dumpster and look at RIGHT AND WRONG.
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oh, go fck a duck dude. Bush was personally handed enough intel on a red-eye in middle of night, which could have easily stopped 911 attacks. your only defense (ignoring chain of command) is "well, someone at a lower level could have stopped it!"
But you're throwing feces because some lib NYer is mad obama is cutting his $, accusing him of letting another 911 happen - that hasn't even happened.
Shit man, put partisan politics in the dumpster and look at RIGHT AND WRONG.
The govt has one major function. Not medicare, not climatology, not SS, not jobs programs, not gay marriage, not abortion, not fisting, not green jobs, not crap & tax:
Its one thing 240 - and that is keeping the nation safe.
If the POFS in the WH has 3.2 Billion to seetle a native -american lawsuit, 700 Billion for a fraudulent stimuluis bill, trillions to banksters, THEN WHY IS HE DOING THIS?
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you made me think of someting interesting...
9 years, and 2 trillion spent on the war on terror, and we haven't killed enough bad guys to bring down the % of NY being hit and therefore reduce funding by a small %?
why did we have the war on terror in the first place? ;)
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you made me think of someting interesting...
9 years, and 2 trillion spent on the war on terror, and we haven't killed enough bad guys to bring down the % of NY being hit and therefore reduce funding by a small %?
why did we have the war on terror in the first place? ;)
240 - d you live in NY - NO!
9/11 could have and should have resulted in the deaths of over 25,000 people.
During any given day, the WTC had about 40,000 or more people in them.
If the towers would have collapsed upon impact, we would have had 25,000 or greater dead.
The govt and military know this. That is why.
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do ya know why so few ppl were in the building that day?
wait, that's 4th grade 911 CTery.
I don't think he should have cut the $. Cut it from some BS bill like one of the many he has. I'm just playing devil's advocate - at some point, after 9 or 90 years of killing terrorists, NYC will be safer and need less defenses right? if not, she needs MORE defenses now.
Dude, stop taking every post personally like I'm spitting on your doormat. I think of provacative points which lead to debates man.
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do ya know why so few ppl were in the building that day?
wait, that's 4th grade 911 CTery.
I don't think he should have cut the $. Cut it from some BS bill like one of the many he has. I'm just playing devil's advocate - at some point, after 9 or 90 years of killing terrorists, NYC will be safer and need less defenses right? if not, she needs MORE defenses now.
Dude, stop taking every post personally like I'm spitting on your doormat. I think of provacative points which lead to debates man.
Most people start work at 9 am. The first hit was 8.46 correct? Many people were not in the building yet or on their way.
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"Most people start work at 9 am. The first hit was 8.46 correct? Many people were not in the building yet or on their way. "
uh huh. So you can explain the texts, then? ;) Nahhhhhhhhh
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"Most people start work at 9 am. The first hit was 8.46 correct? Many people were not in the building yet or on their way. "
uh huh. So you can explain the texts, then? ;) Nahhhhhhhhh
Which ones?
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...at some point, after 9 or 90 years of killing terrorists, NYC will be safer and need less defenses right?
Wrong. Your making the assumption that there is a finite number of terrorists in the world.
There are clearly targets which are more suitable to terrorism and, therefore, in greater need of protection. That's just common sense.
Now, 33, you're keen to point out the endless amount of money that New York State abuses and throws away, so perhaps the administration is thinking NY has enough money and is just wasting it. IDK. But, if NY can justify the expenditures, then they should be given the money they need to keep the city as safe as reasonably possible.
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Wrong. Your making the assumption that there is a finite number of terrorists in the world.
There are clearly targets which are more suitable to terrorism and, therefore, in greater need of protection. That's just common sense.
Now, 33, you're keen to point out the endless amount of money that New York State abuses and throws away, so perhaps the administration is thinking NY has enough money and is just wasting it. IDK. But, if NY can justify the expenditures, then they should be given the money they need to keep the city as safe as reasonably possible.
Skip - how about this. KSM is being brought to NYC next month. By all measures this is going to cost NYC anywhere between 75 - 125 Million Dollars if not more. NYC did not ask for this, but now has to foot the bill for it.
Is that good enough justification for the $?
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nobody here agrees with KSM in NYC. I think we like to debate how it came to this, who didn't get the job done on that prick for 6 years.
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nobody here agrees with KSM in NYC. I think we like to debate how it came to this, who didn't get the job done on that prick for 6 years.
The point is that NYC now has to shell out tens of millions more due to Obama's decisison and now he is cutting funding to NYC who has to deal with it.
You dont see a major problem with that?
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I disagree. We shouldnt be targeting anyone. We need to stop the insane level of spending that requires the crazy taxes in the first place.
Rich folks spend money, and i would rather their money being spread in the private economy than being siphoned off to the govt.
The taxes here on everyone are just ridiculous. We get nickle and dimed on everything.
Oh come on! The rich have been siphoning off wealth, money, and assets for the last 100 years. Now they are all in congress. Yes I agree we need to stop the insane level of spending. But we also need to have redistribution of wealth and if it comes at the hand of the free market or it is taken from the wealthy I don't really give a fuck. It's not like most of the wealthy are any harder working or any smarter than the rest of us. If you think the Donald Trumps of the world and the Bernie Madoff's of the world are smarter and harder working than you that's your problem not mine. The banks and financial institutions that are breaking the back of the American economy are supported by both government and greedy elitist wealthy fucks who could give a shit about their "country" or the American middle class. You're simply on one end of the political spectrum when the truth is somewhere in the middle.
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Oh come on! The rich have been siphoning off wealth, money, and assets for the last 100 years. Now they are all in congress. Yes I agree we need to stop the insane level of spending. But we also need to have redistribution of wealth and if it comes at the hand of the free market or it is taken from the wealthy I don't really give a fuck. It's not like most of the wealthy are any harder working or any smarter than the rest of us. If you think the Donald Trumps of the world and the Bernie Madoff's of the world are smarter and harder working than you that's your problem not mine. The banks and financial institutions that are breaking the back of the American economy are supported by both government and greedy elitist wealthy fucks who could give a shit about their "country" or the American middle class. You're simply on one end of the political spectrum when the truth is somewhere in the middle.
"It's not like most of the wealthy are any harder working or any smarter than the rest of us."
Thats utter nonsense. Most of the people i know who are wealthy, who dont work on Wall Street, are far smarter and work many more hours than your average person. I'm not talking people who are worth tens of millions, I'm talking people who started companies and now are worth between 3-10 million.
They are smarter than most people and typically work 24/7 on way or the other.
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"It's not like most of the wealthy are any harder working or any smarter than the rest of us."
Thats utter nonsense. Most of the people i know who are wealthy, who dont work on Wall Street, are far smarter and work many more hours than your average person. I'm not talking people who are worth tens of millions, I'm talking people who started companies and now are worth between 3-10 million.
They are smarter than most people and typically work 24/7 on way or the other.
Analysts at bulge bracket banks work average weeks in excess of 70+ hours and will pull 100+ hour weeks more than a few times per year.
MuscleMcAnus is another of these retards that wants to hand all the wealth to people who don't deserve it.
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Analysts at bulge bracket banks work average weeks in excess of 70+ hours and will pull 100+ hour weeks more than a few times per year.
MuscleMcAnus is another of these retards that wants to hand all the wealth to people who don't deserve it.
I try to call it like I see it.
To say business owners who started from scratch and turned nothing into a large business and have accumulated wealth in the marketplace,. whether construction, tech, of whatever, are not smarter or work harder than others is pure garbage. Its simply not true.
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Skip - how about this. KSM is being brought to NYC next month. By all measures this is going to cost NYC anywhere between 75 - 125 Million Dollars if not more. NYC did not ask for this, but now has to foot the bill for it.
Is that good enough justification for the $?
Yes, but perhaps NY is saying they need X and the administration is saying, you need Y. The American people are not looking to fund the full retirement of your cops after 20 years. That's a NY problem and the residents need to deal with that.
As I said before, I don't know why the money was cut, I'm just throwing out a possibility.
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I try to call it like I see it.
To say business owners who started from scratch and turned nothing into a large business and have accumulated wealth in the marketplace,. whether construction, tech, of whatever, are not smarter or work harder than others is pure garbage. Its simply not true.
I agree with what you're saying.
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I try to call it like I see it.
To say business owners who started from scratch and turned nothing into a large business and have accumulated wealth in the marketplace,. whether construction, tech, of whatever, are not smarter or work harder than others is pure garbage. Its simply not true.
If you've ever read a book called, "In the Company of Giants", it talks about the digital age millionaires and how much time they spent working, often times for peanuts until the company finally took off.
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Yes, but perhaps NY is saying they need X and the administration is saying, you need Y. The American people are not looking to fund the full retirement of your cops after 20 years. That's a NY problem and the residents need to deal with that.
As I said before, I don't know why the money was cut, I'm just throwing out a possibility.
The pensions are funded by the NYS Pension fund. Its two seperate things entirely.
I personally think was done to slight Patterson since the guv has been bashing Obama a lot lately.
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If you've ever read a book called, "In the Company of Giants", it talks about the digital age millionaires and how much time they spent working, often times for peanuts until the company finally took off.
Everyone I know who has a high net worth works zillions of hours. Its simply a nonsenscial lie to think people accumulate money by sitting on a couch and waiting for checks to roll in.
I'm not talking about trust fund babies like John Kerry, but people who start companies and are business people in the normal marketplace.
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"It's not like most of the wealthy are any harder working or any smarter than the rest of us."
Thats utter nonsense. Most of the people i know who are wealthy, who dont work on Wall Street, are far smarter and work many more hours than your average person. I'm not talking people who are worth tens of millions, I'm talking people who started companies and now are worth between 3-10 million.
They are smarter than most people and typically work 24/7 on way or the other.
Do you have kids? I bet you don't. I guess everyone should be business owners right? I mean after all business owners are the only ones in the world that "deserve" to make milions and millions of dollars because they are so much smarter and harder working than everyone else. That's pure and utter bullshit. Without the innovative private sector filled with engineers, scientists, artists, etc. people like you and many others wouldn't have fucking jack shit to sell. And while you're out working like a dog it's the teachers who are educating your kids and making sure they are prepared to enter into the world as responsible upstanding citizens. And while business owners are working hard 24/7 a day it's the cops and fire fighters who make sure their shit doesn't burn down and they aren't robbed at gunpoint. You see where I'm going with this?
I guaranfuckingtee you you're not smarter nor harder working than I am. I'm an RN. Hell I might even make as much money as you. And as someone who can sympathize with you and others as a future business owner (I'm in the process of writing my own business plan and hopefully going into business for myself soon) I realize the amount of dedication, work, money, energy etc. that goes into running a business. However, I'm not talking about mom and pop businesses like yours. I'm talking about the multinational corporations that have been siphoning off the wealth and assets of the American middle class for decades. They can't even create jobs anymore they are so big and inefficient. Government is not the root of all our problems like you and many others so naively believe. People in general are just lazier, more greedy, and more corruptable than ever, both in the private sector and in the government. Hell most in government were once in the private sector and vice versa.
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Go clean a bed pan douchbag. Ur really good at blowing ur own horn.
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Do you have kids? I bet you don't. I guess everyone should be business owners right? I mean after all business owners are the only ones in the world that "deserve" to make milions and millions of dollars because they are so much smarter and harder working than everyone else. That's pure and utter bullshit. Without the innovative private sector filled with engineers, scientists, artists, etc. people like you and many others wouldn't have fucking jack shit to sell. And while you're out working like a dog it's the teachers who are educating your kids and making sure they are prepared to enter into the world as responsible upstanding citizens. And while business owners are working hard 24/7 a day it's the cops and fire fighters who make sure their shit doesn't burn down and they aren't robbed at gunpoint. You see where I'm going with this?
I guaranfuckingtee you you're not smarter nor harder working than I am. I'm an RN. Hell I might even make as much money as you. And as someone who can sympathize with you and others as a future business owner (I'm in the process of writing my own business plan and hopefully going into business for myself soon) I realize the amount of dedication, work, money, energy etc. that goes into running a business. However, I'm not talking about mom and pop businesses like yours. I'm talking about the multinational corporations that have been siphoning off the wealth and assets of the American middle class for decades. They can't even create jobs anymore they are so big and inefficient. Government is not the root of all our problems like you and many others so naively believe. People in general are just lazier, more greedy, and more corruptable than ever, both in the private sector and in the government. Hell most in government were once in the private sector and vice versa.
When you work for someone, you negotiate your salary and benefits etc. If you are not happy with that, you have the option to either accept, decline and fird work somewhere else, or take a risk and work for yourself.
When you work for someone else or a company, in return for the security of getting a paycheck every week, you give up the potential of reaping a large reward or loss when the business does great or does bad.
This is why I laugh at unions ansd union members who scream that they 'deserve" a piece of the pie or profits. WTF? When the business goes under, will they accept the losses that have been accumulated.
Business Owners take on a huge risk by going on their own. For myself personally, i have two people who work for me. Some weeks I have to go without a paycheck, but there are others where I get a huge paycheck. Its just how it is.
People are pointing to the wrong people are far as the problems go. Its the cost of living that is squeezing people out of middle class, not the "evil rich".
Are the evil rich driving up your property taxes? Are they doubling your DMV fees and enacting sales tax hikes to jusify wasteful govt spending?
When teachers scream about their salaries and the local taxes go up, is that the rich peoples' fault?
The govt is the problem not people who have $$$.
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Go clean a bed pan douchbag. Ur really good at blowing ur own horn.
You know I'm not going to stoop to your level anymore. I will say this and I'll be done responding to your ignorant ass. I'm smart enough to realize that soldiers are the backbone of the military. When you take away all the bullshit has beens like you clouding the ranks of the upper military brass that pretty much sits on their ass behind a computer screen you have the soldiers. The good old soldier there to clean up the shit decisions, bullshit, and mistakes made during war, and in the greater theatre of an advanced military superpower.
Well while I'd sound like a fool to compare a nurse to a soldier I will say nurses are the backbone of healthcare in the US. When you get old or god forbid have someone that needs any type of acute hospital care you'll understand what I mean. Just like I have never served in the military and have no clue what it really means to be a soldier you have no clue what goes on in healthcare or how healthcare is run nowadays. Trust me, if the average person saw the shit that I see in a hospital they would be taken back and in awe. While doctors just like officers are the leaders of the healthcare team that are responsible for making the decisions and carrying out the responsibility that goes on when delivering healthcare, it's the nurses that are the eyes and ears for the doctors and it's us who are "in the trenches" so to speak doing the dirty work, yes both literally and figuratively like the soldiers on the frontlines.
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When you work for someone, you negotiate your salary and benefits etc. If you are not happy with that, you have the option to either accept, decline and fird work somewhere else, or take a risk and work for yourself.
When you work for someone else or a company, in return for the security of getting a paycheck every week, you give up the potential of reaping a large reward or loss when the business does great or does bad.
This is why I laugh at unions ansd union members who scream that they 'deserve" a piece of the pie or profits. WTF? When the business goes under, will they accept the losses that have been accumulated.
Business Owners take on a huge risk by going on their own. For myself personally, i have two people who work for me. Some weeks I have to go without a paycheck, but there are others where I get a huge paycheck. Its just how it is.
People are pointing to the wrong people are far as the problems go. Its the cost of living that is squeezing people out of middle class, not the "evil rich".
Are the evil rich driving up your property taxes? Are they doubling your DMV fees and enacting sales tax hikes to jusify wasteful govt spending?
When teachers scream about their salaries and the local taxes go up, is that the rich peoples' fault?
The govt is the problem not people who have $$$.
You never answered my question. What kind of business do you have?
You don't get it do you? Wealth is a finite resource. It's neither created nor destroyed just like everything on Earth. It simply changes form and in the process changes hands. If people are laid off and can't find jobs who the hell do you think has to support their ass? The public sector i.e. government. I'd rather have some rich fuck who lives in a million dollar home and drives a Ferrari pony up the fucking money to take care of those less fortunate than my middle class ass. It's a huge fish bowl anyways........the actions of EVERYONE nowadays affect everyone else.......that's the real problem. If people didn't find work a hundred years ago they'd either die or resort to crime and stealing. Look at third world countries. Is that what you want to happen? I hate socialism and government and handouts as much as the next guy. But what are we going to do? How do you plan to solve all of our financial problems genius? By doing away with taxes? Ok fine let's say we have zero taxes. Let's privatize all our roads and have to pay a fucking toll to drive anywhere. Yeah that's a wonderful society to live in. ::) And there are hundred more examples like that.
The poor are just as much a leech on society as the rich.
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You never answered my question. What kind of business do you have?
You don't get it do you? Wealth is a finite resource. It's neither created nor destroyed just like everything on Earth. It simply changes form and in the process changes hands. If people are laid off and can't find jobs who the hell do you think has to support their ass? The public sector i.e. government. I'd rather have some rich fuck who lives in a million dollar home and drives a Ferrari pony up the fucking money to take care of those less fortunate than my middle class ass. It's a huge fish bowl anyways........the actions of EVERYONE nowadays affect everyone else.......that's the real problem. If people didn't find work a hundred years ago they'd either die or resort to crime and stealing. Look at third world countries. Is that what you want to happen? I hate socialism and government and handouts as much as the next guy. But what are we going to do? How do you plan to solve all of our financial problems genius? By doing away with taxes? Ok fine let's say we have zero taxes. Let's privatize all our roads and have to pay a fucking toll to drive anywhere. Yeah that's a wonderful society to live in. ::) And there are hundred more examples like that.
The poor are just as much a leech on society as the rich.
I believe in capitilism. its not perfect, but its the best system that results in the most wealth for most people.
As for myself, i do commercial debt collection, mechanic's liens, bodd claims, fraud investigating, general corporate counseling, negotiations, etc.
I started my company with $700 to my name 8 years ago when I was sick of working for $10.00 an hour and being told what to do.
I deal with businesses all day every day. I am the marketing, accounting, sales, CIO, CFO, CEO, etc.
Most people who complain about capitilism usually have never run a business and really have no idea what its like to be on the other side of the desk.
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I believe in capitilism. its not perfect, but its the best system that results in the most wealth for most people.
As for myself, i do commercial debt collection, mechanic's liens, bodd claims, fraud investigating, general corporate counseling, negotiations, etc.
I started my company with $700 to my name 8 years ago when I was sick of working for $10.00 an hour and being told what to do.
I deal with businesses all day every day. I am the marketing, accounting, sales, CIO, CFO, CEO, etc.
Most people who complain about capitilism usually have never run a business and really have no idea what its like to be on the other side of the desk.
So you don't actually produce anything is that what you're saying?
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I believe in capitilism. its not perfect, but its the best system that results in the most wealth for most people.
As for myself, i do commercial debt collection, mechanic's liens, bodd claims, fraud investigating, general corporate counseling, negotiations, etc.
I started my company with $700 to my name 8 years ago when I was sick of working for $10.00 an hour and being told what to do.
I deal with businesses all day every day. I am the marketing, accounting, sales, CIO, CFO, CEO, etc.
Most people who complain about capitilism usually have never run a business and really have no idea what its like to be on the other side of the desk.
And capitalism only works if the system is honest and efficient. Otherwise if it is abused it acts to suppress the exact ideals it was supposed to implement. That's the whole problem......overall the corporate world along with its government counterpart is full of liars, cheats, greedy fucks who don't give a fuck about anyone least of all the greater good of the country. It's obvious and will only get worse as globalization spreads.
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So you don't actually produce anything is that what you're saying?
I dont make widgets, but I perform a service and function that most businesses simply cant do internally and my services are in high demand and are offered at a competitive rate in the markeplace.
I saw a need in my area that was unmet and went after it. I cold call, went door to door, etc and got a ton of clients based on my talent to do what I do. I didnt need a govt handout, a govt job credit, or any other govt subsidy, just determination and perseverance.
I would never set up a mfg plant in this country with our disgusting govt. Are you crazy? Between the EPA, Unions, IRS, etc, you would have to be nuts to make anything here.
This is why I LMAO at the crybabies saying we need to unleash the govt on corps for shipping jobs overseas. The govt is the main driver of UE and jobs going overseas in the first place.
With the new EPA ruling, you wait and see what happens. UE is going to go much higher.
Businesses are simply not going to be pinatas for greedy pigs in govt like Obama/Gore/Schumer/Pelosi, etc They simply will pick up and leave, as they should.
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And capitalism only works if the system is honest and efficient. Otherwise if it is abused it acts to suppress the exact ideals it was supposed to implement. That's the whole problem......overall the corporate world along with its government counterpart is full of liars, cheats, greedy fucks who don't give a fuck about anyone least of all the greater good of the country. It's obvious and will only get worse as globalization spreads.
This is why the idea of moral hazard needs to come back. Too Big Too Fail is evil IMHO.
Companies that screw up need to go away, not subsidized. This is why I was against TARP and all the other bailouts. Those criminals need a jail cell, not a bailout.
Same with GM, AIG, etc.