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Title: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: @Brandon on December 12, 2009, 09:27:19 AM
She is just driving her kids to school every day, nothing else.
She was looking for a good safe car to drive around the kids in...
256 K!

I cant say which car it is, someone might recognize her.
A heavy ordinary looking car.

I was thinking about which car I would have chosen instead.

Which car would you buy for 256k?
she was shopping around for a car in the 200-300.000USD range.


 
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: WhiteCastle on December 12, 2009, 09:28:22 AM
 :'(
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: dr.chimps on December 12, 2009, 09:28:47 AM
She is just driving her kids to school every day, nothing else.
She was looking for a good safe car to drive around the kids in...
256 K!

I cant say which car it is, someone might recognize her.
A heavy ordinary looking car.

I was thinking about which car I would have chosen instead.

Which car would you buy?
she was shopping around for a car in the 200-300.000USD range.
$256,000 for a car!? That can't be right.
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 12, 2009, 09:34:49 AM
stupid whore
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: Krankenstein on December 12, 2009, 09:47:48 AM
She is just driving her kids to school every day, nothing else.
She was looking for a good safe car to drive around the kids in...
256 K!

I cant say which car it is, someone might recognize her.
A heavy ordinary looking car.

I was thinking about which car I would have chosen instead.

Which car would you buy for 256k?
she was shopping around for a car in the 200-300.000USD range.


Good thinking to keep the type of car anonymous...there probably were only 1 - 2 made of that car huh?  In addition, dont most getbiggers drive cars that are 2 - 3x that amount?
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 12, 2009, 10:08:59 AM
Must some really nice pussy
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: @Brandon on December 12, 2009, 10:18:02 AM
Good thinking to keep the type of car anonymous...there probably were only 1 - 2 made of that car huh? 
Well her car is unique on this Island.

One of her relatives caused an accident with the car.
I suspect they had to pull some strings to keep him out of jail.
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: HTexan on December 12, 2009, 10:23:34 AM
She is just driving her kids to school every day, nothing else.
She was looking for a good safe car to drive around the kids in...
256 K!

I cant say which car it is, someone might recognize her.
A heavy ordinary looking car.

I was thinking about which car I would have chosen instead.

Which car would you buy for 256k?
she was shopping around and her husband bought her for a car in the 200-300.000USD range.


 
fixed
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: Fury on December 12, 2009, 10:24:06 AM
She is just driving her kids to school every day, nothing else.
She was looking for a good safe car to drive around the kids in...
256 K!

I cant say which car it is, someone might recognize her.
A heavy ordinary looking car.

I was thinking about which car I would have chosen instead.

Which car would you buy for 256k?
she was shopping around for a car in the 200-300.000USD range.


 

Does she visit you on your private island fortress?  ???
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: big L dawg on December 12, 2009, 10:27:35 AM
is this brandon dude the guy that fucks super models lives on his own private island owns a jet & a yacht and benches 500lbs for reps?....If it is....well.....just another getbigger really :D
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: disturbia on December 12, 2009, 10:55:59 AM
is this brandon dude the guy that fucks super models lives on his own private island owns a jet & a yacht and benches 500lbs for reps?....If it is....well.....just another getbigger really :D

ahahha yes it is. He's for real--ahahahahhaha

ahhahahhahahahahahahhahh aahahh
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: johnnynoname on December 12, 2009, 10:57:23 AM
what does brandon accomplish by bragging to "the little people" of the world (l.e. "us")?
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: @Brandon on December 12, 2009, 11:23:09 AM
what does brandon accomplish by bragging to "the little people" of the world (l.e. "us")?
I am questioning my friends choice of car and the money she spent on it.
How is that bragging?

I don't brag that much compared to many getbiggers.
I even kept everything a secret on GB for many years.

I don't even tell the best stuff here, just the ordinary things
otherwise people would melt even more.

 

Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: Parker on December 12, 2009, 11:43:52 AM
Ahh, yes either a bentley or rolls or maybach, correct But of course you didn't say, so one can't say bullshit. So I call bullshit. Because those are virtually the only cars at that price range that carry multiple people. And you said car not truck. But of course you didn't state the make so we can't call bullshit. So I will call bullshit.
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 12, 2009, 12:28:06 PM
Ahh, yes either a bentley or rolls or maybach, correct But of course you didn't say, so one can't say bullshit. So I call bullshit. Because those are virtually the only cars at that price range that carry multiple people. And you said car not truck. But of course you didn't state the make so we can't call bullshit. So I will call bullshit.
Parker do you work on cars? It's nice activity
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: Parker on December 12, 2009, 12:45:51 PM
Parker do you work on cars? It's nice activity
I have, occasionally. Been wanting a project car, but don't want to sink my money into one. I want to get a 2003 M5 and just tweek it. Or a black 964 911 Turbo ( the last of the true whale tails) There is a guy who works exclusively on BMW's and Porsche and he has both in my favorite color, black.
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: Smokincrazy on December 12, 2009, 12:57:14 PM
I have, occasionally. Been wanting a project car, but don't want to sink my money into one. I want to get a 2003 M5 and just tweek it. Or a black 964 911 Turbo ( the last of the true whale tails) There is a guy who works exclusively on BMW's and Porsche and he has both in my favorite color, black.
Those are both sweet rides especially the older  Porsches
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: Parker on December 12, 2009, 01:01:43 PM
Those are both sweet rides especially the older  Porsches
Yeah, I drive by the place everyday. The shop owner was willing to sell the M5, because the owner stopped paying him, but then he started back up. The 911 Turbo has seen better days, the owner just let it sit on the lawn, so it has weather damage. Fucker!
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 12, 2009, 01:09:40 PM
I have, occasionally. Been wanting a project car, but don't want to sink my money into one. I want to get a 2003 M5 and just tweek it. Or a black 964 911 Turbo ( the last of the true whale tails) There is a guy who works exclusively on BMW's and Porsche and he has both in my favorite color, black.

I would take either in a heart beat and I'm like you my favorite car color is black ! if I had a choice I would take the 911 Turbo , I've driven a few 911s including a 993 twin turbo , a worked 911 SC . I've driven a 98 540 Sport but never a M5 but they're basically the same , it handled a lot better than I expected for a car it's size.

Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: Ex Coelis on December 12, 2009, 01:09:57 PM
Parker is a man with cars
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: spinnis on December 12, 2009, 01:14:16 PM
one of the most worthless threads ever.


ok so your friend buys a 250k car.

but you're not telling us what car it is.


WHATS THE FUCKING POINT THEN
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 12, 2009, 01:15:23 PM
Yeah, I drive by the place everyday. The shop owner was willing to sell the M5, because the owner stopped paying him, but then he started back up. The 911 Turbo has seen better days, the owner just let it sit on the lawn, so it has weather damage. Fucker!
I have a 325i BMW bought it new its getting older now need to learn how to work on it...just starting to I like the activity
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 12, 2009, 01:17:03 PM
Yeah, I drive by the place everyday. The shop owner was willing to sell the M5, because the owner stopped paying him, but then he started back up. The 911 Turbo has seen better days, the owner just let it sit on the lawn, so it has weather damage. Fucker!

Man that Porsche is a write-off  :-\ would bring a small fortune to bring it back to original shape

I've driven a Porsche 968 at the time they were billed as the most power naturally aspirated 4 cly in the world , nice cars reminded me of an updated 944 which I've driven too but they were always the cheap-mans Porsche even worse was the 924  :-X
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 12, 2009, 01:18:31 PM
I have a 325i BMW bought it new its getting older now need to learn how to work on it...just starting to I like the activity

It's cheaper to work on it yourself instead of paying a BMW tech an obscene amount of money it's fun too , but parts for Bimmers are expensive
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: Parker on December 12, 2009, 01:22:55 PM
Parker is a man with cars
Ha, in my mind, I have a lot of cars, and Halle Berry and Esther Baxter are my mistresses. Actually, I have one. A Lexus, and a shitload of knowledge. I'm getting like my dad, and getting cheap. I don't see the benefit of blowing a shitload of money on a car, just to sell it for way less than what you put in it. That's how a lot Americans have gone into debt.

I remember this one guy who had a Lexus IS300, like mine, and he lived near me. Found out about him on myis.net, well he sunk over 80k into it, and sold it for 25k to a dude in Russia. Guy said he needed the
money to buy a house. Think of the money he could have saved had he left it stock. Plus 80k, not including what he paid for it, for 25k? What a waste!

ND, I like the 964's because they have a overbuilt feel to them, plus the snap oversteer aspect is quite prevalent in the older Porsches.  And I like the curvy look to them. It's been said that the 993 911 was the last of the overbuilt Porsches, built like a bankvault.
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 12, 2009, 01:23:24 PM
It's cheaper to work on it yourself instead of paying a BMW tech an obscene amount of money it's fun too , but parts for Bimmers are expensive
Yes ND ...the parts are expensive must less taking it to a shop...I have a garage at my house..just need knowledge on working on it...I'm American all the cars I had before were USA made this one is different...you or Parker got any good links on BMW maintenance and repair?
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: Team Diver on December 12, 2009, 01:27:08 PM
(http://pimpledrides.blogsome.com/images/goldie-car.jpg)
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: Parker on December 12, 2009, 01:42:27 PM
Man that Porsche is a write-off  :-\ would bring a small fortune to bring it back to original shape

I've driven a Porsche 968 at the time they were billed as the most power naturally aspirated 4 cly in the world , nice cars reminded me of an updated 944 which I've driven too but they were always the cheap-mans Porsche even worse was the 924  :-X
Fuck yeah, I was told the body is what is gonna cost. Because the original owner left it outside. The whale tail has weather damage and so do parts of the side (the black material on the lower part of the fenders that all 930-964 Turbos had), mechanically it's fine. I've seen the mechanics take it out from time to time. But 911's especially Turbos are money pits.
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: bigdumbbell on December 12, 2009, 01:56:46 PM
i have a friend who's lucky to have a ton of money and sits in his new Ferarri and jacks off
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: freespirit on December 13, 2009, 01:21:22 AM
She is just driving her kids to school every day, nothing else.
She was looking for a good safe car to drive around the kids in...
256 K!

I cant say which car it is, someone might recognize her.
A heavy ordinary looking car.

I was thinking about which car I would have chosen instead.

Which car would you buy for 256k?
she was shopping around for a car in the 200-300.000USD range.


 


Does she know about the energy-crisis that is about to happen in a few years? The world as we know it is going to change a lot in the next few years, whether you like it or not.
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: @Brandon on December 13, 2009, 02:31:28 AM

Does she know about the energy-crisis that is about to happen in a few years?

Good to have Parker in this thread he is a true hardcore car fan.

Btw freespirt: Yes she is quite smart, with two university degrees.

She imported the car, paid a ton of tax.
500HP but a very boring design, not impressive looking or beautiful at all.

I am a bit surprised, this is the first time I saw someone
buy a quarter of a million car and just
use it as a school bus.

If I was her I would buy something like the Maserati GranCabrio:
A beautiful 4seater.

(http://www.autospies.com/images/users/Agent009/2010-Maserati-GranCabrio/GranCabrio_02.jpg)
(http://www.autospies.com/images/users/Agent009/2010-Maserati-GranCabrio/GranCabrio_03.jpg)
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: WillGrant on December 13, 2009, 02:47:52 AM
She is just driving her kids to school every day, nothing else.
She was looking for a good safe car to drive around the kids in...
256 K!

I cant say which car it is, someone might recognize her.
A heavy ordinary looking car.

I was thinking about which car I would have chosen instead.

Which car would you buy for 256k?
she was shopping around for a car in the 200-300.000USD range.


 
She could of got a small island for that amount  :D
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: noworries on December 13, 2009, 03:17:17 AM
Ha, in my mind, I have a lot of cars, and Halle Berry and Esther Baxter are my mistresses. Actually, I have one. A Lexus, and a shitload of knowledge. I'm getting like my dad, and getting cheap. I don't see the benefit of blowing a shitload of money on a car, just to sell it for way less than what you put in it. That's how a lot Americans have gone into debt.

I remember this one guy who had a Lexus IS300, like mine, and he lived near me. Found out about him on myis.net, well he sunk over 80k into it, and sold it for 25k to a dude in Russia. Guy said he needed the
money to buy a house. Think of the money he could have saved had he left it stock. Plus 80k, not including what he paid for it, for 25k? What a waste!

ND, I like the 964's because they have a overbuilt feel to them, plus the snap oversteer aspect is quite prevalent in the older Porsches.  And I like the curvy look to them. It's been said that the 993 911 was the last of the overbuilt Porsches, built like a bankvault.

How about this one.  My friend just recently sold his for $750,000.00.  He had 12 of them at one time.  I had one of his 935 Slantnose's in Hawaii.  This one is an all steal body by Koenig with a twin turbo
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: Parker on December 13, 2009, 03:38:20 AM
How about this one.  My friend just recently sold his for $750,000.00.  He had 12 of them at one time.  I had one of his 935 Slantnose's in Hawaii.  This one is an all steal body by Koenig with a twin turbo
Man, I wish I was that guy's illegitimate kid.... 
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: wavelength on December 13, 2009, 03:42:20 AM
If you have the money and like cars, why not.
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: Parker on December 13, 2009, 03:50:07 AM
If you have the money and like cars, why not.
What, modding cars. Yeah I agree. But most don't have the money, they just burn themselves into debt.
 People have ask me if mine was for sale, cause they want to mod it.
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: wavelength on December 13, 2009, 03:52:06 AM
What, modding cars. Yeah I agree. But most don't have the money, they just burn themselves into debt.
 People have ask me if mine was for sale, cause they want to mod it.

Cars in general.
And I agree, with "having the money" I mean the cost should only be a small percentage of what you have.
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: Parker on December 13, 2009, 03:58:15 AM
Cars in general.
And I agree, with "having the money" I mean the cost should only be a small percentage of what you have.
I agree. I know of this one chick who has bought everything-car, home, plasma TV's all on credit, this was before the meltdown last yr. I don't know what happend to her. But I don't think that Mercedes S class is sitting her driveway.
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: wavelength on December 13, 2009, 04:00:24 AM
I agree. I know of this one chick who has bought everything-car, home, plasma TV's all on credit, this was before the meltdown last yr. I don't know what happend to her. But I don't think that Mercedes S class is sitting her driveway.

Maybe she now lives in it ;D
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: Parker on December 13, 2009, 04:04:15 AM
Maybe she now lives in it ;D
Or selling her tail...to pay for it.
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: BIG AL MCKECHNIE on December 13, 2009, 04:15:16 AM
Good to have Parker in this thread he is a true hardcore car fan.

Btw freespirt: Yes she is quite smart, with two university degrees.

She imported the car, paid a ton of tax.
500HP but a very boring design, not impressive looking or beautiful at all.

I am a bit surprised, this is the first time I saw someone
buy a quarter of a million car and just
use it as a school bus.


(http://www.autospies.com/images/users/Agent009/2010-Maserati-GranCabrio/GranCabrio_02.jpg)
(http://www.autospies.com/images/users/Agent009/2010-Maserati-GranCabrio/GranCabrio_03.jpg)


I'm sorry @brandon but I think your friend is telling fibbs. Probably just trying to see how gullible and foolish you are.
Where do you live that she had to import it herself?  The tax on it shouldn't be any more than if she bought from a dealership which had already paid the import duty and tax on it. Rolls, Bently and Maybach are the only cars which would fit this spec and they are well represented worldwide. Sorry but you have been made a little fool of.



 
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: @Brandon on December 13, 2009, 04:45:50 AM

I'm sorry @brandon but I think your friend is telling fibbs. Probably just trying to see how gullible and foolish you are.


Many car makers are not represented here, this maker have an office but they
did send the car from an EU country.
If you knew the crazy protectionism embargo's some countries put up
to protect their car industry you would be surprised.
If you met her you would see that she don't waste time on pranks to make people look
stupid ala Arnold.
She is humble and not even that interested in cars.
But I understand it is hard to get an idea of the whole thing since I only give limited info.

Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: Stark on December 13, 2009, 04:53:18 AM
there aren't many cars around for 250k -
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: Matterhorn on December 13, 2009, 04:55:26 AM
Good to have Parker in this thread he is a true hardcore car fan.

Btw freespirt: Yes she is quite smart, with two university degrees.

She imported the car, paid a ton of tax.
500HP but a very boring design, not impressive looking or beautiful at all.

I am a bit surprised, this is the first time I saw someone
buy a quarter of a million car and just
use it as a school bus.

If I was her I would buy something like the Maserati GranCabrio:
A beautiful 4seater.

(http://www.autospies.com/images/users/Agent009/2010-Maserati-GranCabrio/GranCabrio_02.jpg)
(http://www.autospies.com/images/users/Agent009/2010-Maserati-GranCabrio/GranCabrio_03.jpg)

good choice.
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: Parker on December 13, 2009, 05:23:46 AM
Many car makers are not represented here, this maker have an office but they
did send the car from an EU country.
If you knew the crazy protectionism embargo's some countries put up
to protect their car industry you would be surprised.
If you met her you would see that she don't waste time on pranks to make people look
stupid ala Arnold.
She is humble and not even that interested in cars.
But I understand it is hard to get an idea of the whole thing since I only give limited info.


Yeah, but he's right. As I said, Maybach, Rolls or Bentley matches the spec. To ferry kids you will need 4 doors. Even Spyker. Unless it's a specially made Benz or Porsche Panamera or Maserati Quattroporte.  There is nothing else worht mentioning. Plus the US is at this time one of the best markets other than the middle east for such high end cars. There aren't many cars in the uber lux market to pic from, and the tops being Bugatti, Rolls, Bentley and Maybach. And since the Bugatti 4 door called the Galibier has been shown, but price hasn't been announced, think 2 mil, that rules out the Bugatti.
Bentley has just releashed the Mulsanne, which replaces the Arnage, and they have a Bentley Continental GT Coupe and Sedan. Rolls just releashed the Ghost, and there is their Puantom sedan and coupe. Ferrari has the 612 Scaglietti, which is a 4 place coupe. And Aston Martin is probably taking orders on it's Rapide, which the finished product was just shown. Those are about all the real good ones. Other than some obscure marque, which probably has low volume and poor reliability. 
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: Parker on December 13, 2009, 05:36:53 AM
So what country are you in man??

I actually do international freight management for a living since I left the RAF. Russia is actually the worst for red tape and duty when exporting anything from EU.  Are you in Russia?



You know Russia is the capital for Bulletproof Range and Land Rovers, could be that, or that ugly monstrosity that has whale penis leather for seat covers.
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 13, 2009, 05:42:39 AM
Sounds as if Russia is bad on taxes, hot chicks there though
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: @Brandon on December 13, 2009, 06:21:52 AM
Yeah, but he's right. As I said, Maybach, Rolls or Bentley matches the spec. To ferry kids you will need 4 doors. Even Spyker. Unless it's a specially made Benz or Porsche Panamera or Maserati Quattroporte.  There is nothing else worht mentioning. Plus the US is at this time one of the best markets other than the middle east for such high end cars. There aren't many cars in the uber lux market to pic from, and the tops being Bugatti, Rolls, Bentley and Maybach. And since the Bugatti 4 door called the Galibier has been shown, but price hasn't been announced, think 2 mil, that rules out the Bugatti.
Bentley has just releashed the Mulsanne, which replaces the Arnage, and they have a Bentley Continental GT Coupe and Sedan. Rolls just releashed the Ghost, and there is their Puantom sedan and coupe. Ferrari has the 612 Scaglietti, which is a 4 place coupe. And Aston Martin is probably taking orders on it's Rapide, which the finished product was just shown. Those are about all the real good ones. Other than some obscure marque, which probably has low volume and poor reliability.  
Good post.
I like when people know what they are talking about,
sometimes it is rare on GB.

Btw Pamela Anderson among others contacted Dartz and saved the wales penises.
Dartz announced that they will no longer use penises in their car seats.
They will change to a new completely unique material
but the price is still 1.5mil for the monster.
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: Meso_z on December 13, 2009, 06:38:39 AM
She is just driving her kids to school every day, nothing else.
She was looking for a good safe car to drive around the kids in...
256 K!

I cant say which car it is, someone might recognize her.
A heavy ordinary looking car.

I was thinking about which car I would have chosen instead.

Which car would you buy for 256k?
she was shopping around for a car in the 200-300.000USD range.


 

Women are not meant to drive such cars, she will soon crash it.
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: BIG AL MCKECHNIE on December 13, 2009, 07:48:24 AM
You know Russia is the capital for Bulletproof Range and Land Rovers, could be that, or that ugly monstrosity that has whale penis leather for seat covers.

So is @Brandon in Russia then ?????
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: Parker on December 13, 2009, 10:28:34 AM
So is @Brandon in Russia then ?????
Dont know, but his last post provided clues. He said many car companies are not repping there. And that that it was shipped from a EU country. Also that there were potectionist red tape if you will. So actually, car probably doesn't really cost 250k, but with all the fees and what not, it ends up to be.
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: Ex Coelis on December 13, 2009, 10:30:00 AM
the mutaween must put a stop to this vulgar behaviour

(http://free-spiritblog.com/images/woman_driver.jpg)
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: Method101 on December 13, 2009, 10:42:24 AM
she must have one hell of a sugar daddy  ::)
Title: Re: A friend bought a car for 256.000 USD
Post by: Parker on December 13, 2009, 10:43:24 AM
the mutaween must put a stop to this vulgar behaviour

(http://free-spiritblog.com/images/woman_driver.jpg)
I bet she is hot as he'll underneath that hijab. You know what, all the women need to go topless in those countries to protest that garb...you can't stone and beat every female!