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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Training Q&A => Topic started by: StinkyPete on December 12, 2009, 05:46:18 PM
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I just read Dave Picard's "Bodybuilding for Real People: Part One: The Workout" [http://www.getbig.com/articles/faq-dav1.htm]. Would you do one workout every other day, as in the example below?
Monday Tuesday Wednday Thursday Friday Saturday Sunday
Wrkout 1 Cardio Wrkout 2 Cardio Wrkout3 rest Wrkout 4
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ya why not..but what you outline is not every other day its: mon-wed-fri-sun
also depends on what you do on the specific days
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Workout 1= Chest & Triceps
Workout 2= Quads & Hamstrings
Workout 3= Calves & Shoulders
Workout 4= Back & Biceps
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Workout 1= Chest & Triceps
Workout 2= Quads & Hamstrings
Workout 3= Calves & Shoulders
Workout 4= Back & Biceps
Looks fine, but why take a day off in between each workout?
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Check out the article, http://www.getbig.com/articles/faq-dav1.htm , it recomends day of rest between workouts. Let me know if you think I understood it correctly. As my knowledge for setting up workout plans is a LOT less than most people here, I would appreciate any kind of help.
Thanks
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Check out the article, http://www.getbig.com/articles/faq-dav1.htm , it recomends day of rest between workouts. Let me know if you think I understood it correctly. As my knowledge for setting up workout plans is a LOT less than most people here, I would appreciate any kind of help.
Thanks
1 full day = 24 hours, I think you'll be OK working two days in a row.
6. Take 1 full days rest in-between workouts, occasionally you may need 2 days rest.
This one doesn't sound reasonable...........
11. Your weight training time should be 20 - 30 minutes per workout or 2 hours max per week
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12. With this training approach, there is no need to hit abdominals separately. They get stimulated each and every workout, and any more would be blatantly overtraining them. Plus hitting abdominals directly tends to create a thickness around the waist that isn't aesthetically appealing.
And this is retarded too.
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12. With this training approach, there is no need to hit abdominals separately. They get stimulated each and every workout, and any more would be blatantly overtraining them. Plus hitting abdominals directly tends to create a thickness around the waist that isn't aesthetically appealing.
And this is retarded too.
I second that...
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I`d find another routine other than Dave Picards......whoever the fuck he is!! :)
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sounds like this guy is just trying to sell people on less work = better results which sounds great, sells books but doesn't work
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I may agree somewhat with 6,9,10,11 & 12. All the others, not so much. Also Picard tends to get pre-exhaust confused with Super Sets. I am sure this 12 point type scheme may work on a few people, expecting average or moderate results, at the beginning. But any long term results may be doubtful.
If this is part 1, I can hardly wait for part 2. Good Luck
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Right now for me,
Mon-chest/bi's
Tue-back/tri's
Wed-shoulders/traps
Thur-legs
Fri-arms
Sat/Sun-off
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Thanks for all the input. I've managed to lose about 20lbs in about 3 months and I'm interested in a workout plan for building muscle. Yes I am a begginer at bodybuilding so I would appreciate any info, if you know of a site please let me know.
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Go here:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/wescott7.htm
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Right now for me,
Mon-chest/bi's
Tue-back/tri's
Wed-shoulders/traps
Thur-legs
Fri-arms
Sat/Sun-off
You work arms twice a week? They must be huge!! :o
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You work arms twice a week? They must be huge!! :o
I wish :(...my weakest body part I'm giving them a little extra for awhile to see how they respond.
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I wish :(...my weakest body part I'm giving them a little extra for awhile to see how they respond.
Stop it.
Only work them once a week, triceps first, then biceps........hard, heavy, low reps (2-3).
Seriously.
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Stop it.
Only work them once a week, triceps first, then biceps........hard, heavy, low reps (2-3).
Seriously.
How many excerises do you do?
I like the results I'm getting right now but I'll get bored soon enough and will try your advice.
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How many excerises do you do?
I like the results I'm getting right now but I'll get bored soon enough and will try your advice.
3 each
Try this.....
Triceps...
cg bench heavy 2-5 reps w/good form use a smith machine if you have to
pushdowns use a straight or cambered bar 8-10 reps
overhead extentions cambered bar or db 5-8 reps
Biceps........
standing straight bar curls 2-3 reps heavy
preacher curls 8-10 reps
db curls standing or seated 5-8 reps
Quick and easy workout. :)
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Stop it.
Only work them once a week, triceps first, then biceps........hard, heavy, low reps (2-3).
Seriously.
I would suggest biceps first as its easier on the elbow joint....a nice pumped bicep provides cushioning not to mention it warmed up more thuroughly when working tri's
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I would suggest biceps first as its easier on the elbow joint....a nice pumped bicep provides cushioning not to mention it warmed up more thuroughly when working tri's
???
Out.....ah, Ronaldo said I have to be nice......... :(
Explain this.
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A long time standing rule in BB'ing is to work a large/stronger muscle group first, than a smaller one. Like back-chest or quads-hams. If doing a full body workout, than legs, back, chest, etc. To do full justice to larger muscle groups, that requires using more weight and energy, they should be hit first in a workout. That seems to be the theory. Of course gym theory's are not always based on logical facts or goals, but this one seems to adapt well to most training ideas.
This general rule is applied to arm training: the triceps are 2/3's of the arm size, and should be worked before biceps. Though I do not think you will commit any BB'ing sin (and wind up in hell like Joe Weider) if you work the biceps first. All depends of the results. If doing something like quad sets (an excellent arm builder for some) than it really does not matter at all.
Agree with Chaos in not quite understanding the idea of the cushioning affect. maybe I am missing something here.
For arms I might suggest:
Triceps.....Dips, keep the elbows touching (or almost) the sides throughout the exercise. Do have the body in a somewhat 90 degree angle. When adding weight have the weight behind the body, rather than in front. Keeps the body more upright. The more you lean forward, the more the delts and chest are brought into play. This is a prime tricep builder when done right.
Biceps.....BB Cheat curl. A mass builder, starting with moderate knee action, lean into the weight not away from it. If familiar with Gironda's Perfect Curl, than image that but with a cheat start at the beginning. Do not make this a reverse grip clean. Use a weight you can handle honestly, while still keeping tension on the biceps.
These 2 movements are the only ones you are going to need for a good arm cycle. 3 to 4 sets of each exercise. 6 to 9 reps. Either once or twice a week, depends on the results you are getting. I would suggest 2 sets only, of each, but most guy's here are not going to follow that. But most times, more is really not needed if done with serious intent. Good Luck.
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Thanks for all the input. There seem to be some varying themes here but others are more consistant. I've been kind of floundering for a while but starting tomorrow I'm starting my new program based on the "consistant input".
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Thanks for all the input. There seem to be some varying themes here but others are more consistant. I've been kind of floundering for a while but starting tomorrow I'm starting my new program based on the "consistant input".
I'll give you some "consistant input".
Let us know how it goes for you. :)
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I agree that biceps before triceps is a bad idea, i find that it's more difficult to get a good stretch of the triceps on extention movements when the biceps are fully pumped. Also as jpm said, keeping the weight behind you when doing dips is crucial for shifting the overload from the chest and shoulders more to the triceps. I had a lot of difficulty with recruiting my triceps when doing dips because my chest would tend to take over way too much, once I started shifting the weight behind me I barely feel them in my chest and all in my triceps.