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Without being physically attractive (primarily face) nothing else really should matter with regard to attracting the opposite sex. I mean if you can talk a good game, and are smart and funny, you won't get anywhere if you are ugly right?
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Without being physically attractive (primarily face) nothing else really should matter with regard to attracting the opposite sex. I mean if you can talk a good game, and are smart and funny, you won't get anywhere if you are ugly right?
Can't agree w/this.
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Can't agree w/this.
and even more, it's amazing how a beautiful woman can become ulgy with a bad personality. Or how some women that arn't as hot can be more attractive with the right personality. Not sure if it's the same with guys for women. And of course there are probably many who do just see appearances. Looks are a factor, but not the only factor.
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It really depends on a lot of things. There are definitely varying degrees of "attractiveness". Especially nowadays. Look at Hollywood. Fame, popularity, and money make a huge difference and can raise a guy's attractiveness level significantly. You can also be drop dead gorgeous as far as a guy goes but be flat broke, have no personality, etc.
This pretty much somes up how I feel:
Women are not actually attracted to men. There is a vague idea of what a man is physically, and some are better than others aesthetically speaking, but the purely physical appearance of a man is almost inconsequential unless he is horribly ugly or outrageously attractive.
Women are attracted to status, money, how much a man smiles and laughs, how many friends and resources a man has, how full a man's life is--how many "cool," "exciting" and prestigious things he is doing or connected to.
They are interested in how other people view him--how many people want to be around him, how other people interact with him and whether their interactions convey that he is special and amazing. They want him to be extremely outgoing and aggressive, they want him to demonstrate his status over other people by dominating them in various non-violent ways.
A woman's attraction to a man is a function of her jealousy at the thought of another woman having that man. She doesn't care who he actually is or EXACTLY what he looks like physically, she only cares about the VALUE of the life he has constructed around himself.
A woman basically is a greedy materialistic prostitute. Although that sounds vulgar, it's true. She trades her physical self to buy into the success a man has created for himself.
As a man, I fall in love with how a woman is physically. I fall in love with simple parts of a woman. Like the way her hair falls around her face, the line of her neck, her shoulders. They way her ears might peek from her hair. Her eyelashes. The size and shape of her hands, her fingernails. The way she walks, the way she looks when she is tired or annoyed, the sound she makes when she sneezes, coughs, or cries. The way she sits in a chair. The way she breathes while experiencing different emotions. The way her lips move. A million little things. Sure, a huge part of my attraction is mental, but the powerful seed of love that builds within me and crystallizes is based greatly on visual things that set off torrents of emotion and need. It seems to me that women almost cannot think for themselves. Their estimates of worth are based on other peoples' estimates of worth. They don't really find an object beautiful on their own. The object becomes beautiful when other people let her know that it is beautiful. I'm completely unable to reconcile the differences between men and women. It seems like success with women is equal to spending half of your life working to create a giant illusion, something vastly tiring and annoying, while sacrificing your own true self and your own interests. We construct our lives around nest-building. We're like male birds building nests and showing them off to attract mates. It's pathetic. Everything we do is to get women. It is a fucking shit deal.
Someone needs to invent a drug which has no hormonal imbalance side-effects but is able to erase a man's sex drive and attraction to women. It would increase productivity rates to incredible heights. I'd be free and happy. I'd feel complete. I'd be able to concentrate on my biochemistry studying.
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Can't agree w/this.
So you would go out with a fat ugly guy? ???
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So you would go out with a fat ugly guy? ???
Yes! I still have a shot.
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So you would go out with a fat ugly guy? ???
Before I was married I dated an overweight guy. I wouldn't say he was "ugly" but I think very few people are ugly...and that mostly comes from the inside.
One couple we know the woman is an absolute knock-out and the man is overweight and people have commented on his looks to him in an impolite way. He is hilarious and sweet, smart, etc. They've been married for maybe 18 years.
I don't want to generalize...but I guess I am...it just seems like "looks" are more important to men than women. No offense, it's just my observation.
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Before I was married I dated an overweight guy. I wouldn't say he was "ugly" but I think very few people are ugly...and that mostly comes from the inside.
One couple we know the woman is an absolute knock-out and the man is overweight and people have commented on his looks to him in an impolite way. He is hilarious and sweet, smart, etc. They've been married for maybe 18 years.
I don't want to generalize...but I guess I am...it just seems like "looks" are more important to men than women. No offense, it's just my observation.
Your opinion is noted. I think the whole physical attractiveness importance is pretty much even among men and women. I experienced first hand the different way women treated me when fat compared to when in shape. It's night and day.
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Without being physically attractive (primarily face) nothing else really should matter with regard to attracting the opposite sex. I mean if you can talk a good game, and are smart and funny, you won't get anywhere if you are ugly right?
this only applies to females
guys look for 2 qualities in women, they look good and they get along with them, guys think a woman is "smart" when she agrees with him so they don't really care about intelligence or sense of humor or her working as a cashier at walmart, look good and get along with him and he'll consider marrying her
women look for a hundred other things that have nothing to do with looks, a guy just looking good gets his foot in the door and nothing more than that
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Without being physically attractive (primarily face) nothing else really should matter with regard to attracting the opposite sex. I mean if you can talk a good game, and are smart and funny, you won't get anywhere if you are ugly right?
i wouldnt know...i am smoking hot!!!!!! ;D
seriously dude it doesnt matter what he hell you look like.....after all heidi klum is married to seal!!!!!!
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Without being physically attractive (primarily face) nothing else really should matter with regard to attracting the opposite sex. I mean if you can talk a good game, and are smart and funny, you won't get anywhere if you are ugly right?
Speaking from very personal experience on this one. Before I gained this enormous weight I did very very good with women. I was considered pretty successful, had money and one of my best qualities I am told is that I have a great sense of humor, I make people laugh and most women say I am handsome. And my body at the time was definitely something that got me attention. Well, I have not changed except for my body. And I gotta tell you no matter what a girl says about what is inside that counts, she is bullshitting you. The body is probably one of the most important things. My face has not changed all that much. My personality is the same and my financial situation is as good as ever and even better. But NO girl wants an overweight person, trust me. Sure there is some women who don't mind it but they are after the persons money or power. So no matter what you hear, your physical appearance is very important.
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Damn, NoWorries, that just broke me. :(
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Speaking from very personal experience on this one. Before I gained this enormous weight I did very very good with women. I was considered pretty successful, had money and one of my best qualities I am told is that I have a great sense of humor, I make people laugh and most women say I am handsome. And my body at the time was definitely something that got me attention. Well, I have not changed except for my body. And I gotta tell you no matter what a girl says about what is inside that counts, she is bullshitting you. The body is probably one of the most important things. My face has not changed all that much. My personality is the same and my financial situation is as good as ever and even better. But NO girl wants an overweight person, trust me. Sure there is some women who don't mind it but they are after the persons money or power. So no matter what you hear, your physical appearance is very important.
I agree. There are always exceptions, but what you said it generally the truth for the vast majority. I experienced the same thing. :-\
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thats because the first thing women think of when they look at a fat guy is that he cant even maintain his bodyweight so how can he control the other aspects of his life.
show up fat, in a aston martin with a beautiful house and youd suddenly be brad pitt
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thats because the first thing women think of when they look at a fat guy is that he cant even maintain his bodyweight so how can he control the other aspects of his life.
show up fat, in a aston martin with a beautiful house and youd suddenly be brad pitt
To a degree I agree with you.
A buddy of mine has never had a woman give him a second look he is plump with a big ugly head and a dry personality.
In fact I dont recall him ever having a girl friend in his life and he is 43
His dad recently died and he inherited big.
He now has a nice house, 2 cars and a bike all paid for
The woman are trying to kick in his door to get hitched with him now :-\
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To a degree I agree with you.
A buddy of mine has never had a woman give him a second look he is plump with a big ugly head and a dry personality.
In fact I dont recall him ever having a girl friend in his life and he is 43
His dad recently died and he inherited big.
He now has a nice house, 2 cars and a bike all paid for
The woman are trying to kick in his door to get hitched with him now :-\
And he's the type of dude that will end up marrying one of those woman, watch them ruin his life and then sit there and ask why the hell it happened.
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just love yourself and then everyone will love you.
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just love yourself and then everyone will love you.
I think there is to much self loving on GB already :D
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I think there is to much self loving on GB already :D
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It starts from within, if you hate urself, how do u expect people to like you.
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Women care about your looks. And diff looks attract diff women. Where I used to work I was a constant flirt, I lifted weights, felt good about myself, was always smilin, and I knew how to dress to compliment myself. So the ladies came. When I went on a date with one chick, she was constantly feeling my back and arms, women appreciate a man who takes care of his body...
As QB said how you love or view yourself also counts. I think the majority of women would want a tall, handsome, rich, funny, great lover, big cock, great husband as their ideal man. Funny thing is all men want is a hot woman who can cook, knows when to shut up. So, the majority of men don't match up to what women want, but every women thinks she's Melyssa Ford.
I remember on on forum I was banned because I said that not all women are beautiful butterflies ready to be captured in the net of love...the audience that I was speaking about are very sensitive on such topics.
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This pretty much somes up how I feel:
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Excellent read!
I kind of agree with all that's been said. I've noticed that women tend to adore the feeling when they impress another women with their BF. Feels like they don't really appreciate the "thing" unless the others are.
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Excellent read!
I kind of agree with all that's been said. I've noticed that women tend to adore the feeling when they impress another women with their BF. Feels like they don't really appreciate the "thing" unless the others are.
They did a study.
They showed woman pictures of men with info on each guy.
Every one with married in his profile scored much higher than any one else.
It is called "pre aproval" if he is married then some one has already aproved him
I think every guy has noticed when he goes to a club or pub, if he rocks up with another woman all the other woman check him out, if he rocks up alone it is as if he is invisible.
Just out of interest when I was in the army we used to put on wedding rings to pick up woman!
It worked like a charm.
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a man's personality, status, money > his physical looks
no woman stays with a man for longer than 1 date if the only thing he has going for himself is "he's so hot", maybe she'll keep him around for an occaisonal booty call but nothing more
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a man's personality, status, money > his physical looks
no woman stays with a man for longer than 1 date if the only thing he has going for himself is "he's so hot", maybe she'll keep him around for an occaisonal booty call but nothing more
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A mans status is more important then his looks, the novelty wears off, but the $$ and power is very hard to shake off.
A girl is not going to leave a guy that makes a $500k/year for the cute courier guy who makes $600/week.
she may fuck the courier the driver but she wont stick around.
P.S this actually happened.
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A mans status is more important then his looks, the novelty wears off, but the $$ and power is very hard to shake off.
A girl is not going to leave a guy that makes a $500k/year for the cute courier guy who makes $600/week.
she may fuck the courier the driver but she wont stick around.
P.S this actually happened.
agreed
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A mans status is more important then his looks, the novelty wears off, but the $$ and power is very hard to shake off.
A girl is not going to leave a guy that makes a $500k/year for the cute courier guy who makes $600/week.
she may fuck the courier the driver but she wont stick around.
P.S this actually happened.
This is true also. when I played ball and was younger I did alot of married women. And quite a few of them were married to very wealthy men. When I was in Ft. Lauderdale I had this one lady who came to Lauderdale once a week for business up from Miami. Her husband was a Fire Chief in Miami. She would come by my hotel every week for a quicky then leave. She was stunning. No matter what women will cheat as much as men if not more. They will do it for the novelty of it. I had a married girl who would actually haveher husband drp her off to my house in Hawaii. She was working for a company I hired to setup my show. She would tell him that she needed to come by and show me designs and whatever and come back in a couple hours. Now that is some great service.
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This is true also. when I played ball and was younger I did alot of married women. And quite a few of them were married to very wealthy men. When I was in Ft. Lauderdale I had this one lady who came to Lauderdale once a week for business up from Miami. Her husband was a Fire Chief in Miami. She would come by my hotel every week for a quicky then leave. She was stunning. No matter what women will cheat as much as men if not more. They will do it for the novelty of it. I had a married girl who would actually haveher husband drp her off to my house in Hawaii. She was working for a company I hired to setup my show. She would tell him that she needed to come by and show me designs and whatever and come back in a couple hours. Now that is some great service.
I dont doubt that for a second, girls love thrills, married women love thrills X 100000.
there is always a thing in there mind that holds them back but more often then not they just say fuck it "I live once, and his probably fucking other ladies"
as long as she knows she can clear her tracks she will stray.
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As someone said above, a person who is physically attractive by traditional measures can be written off if they have an ugly personality. And a nice body--shapely hour glass on a woman or bulging muscles on a man—can make up for an average or even mediocure face. Granted as a BB fan I’m biased, but I think a nice body/muscles can make almost any guy (more) attractive. There are plenty of bodybuilders who no one would look twice at if they weren’t roided up. I won’t name names, but we all know this is true. ::)
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They did a study.
They showed woman pictures of men with info on each guy.
Every one with married in his profile scored much higher than any one else.
It is called "pre aproval" if he is married then some one has already aproved him
I think every guy has noticed when he goes to a club or pub, if he rocks up with another woman all the other woman check him out, if he rocks up alone it is as if he is invisible.
Just out of interest when I was in the army we used to put on wedding rings to pick up woman!
It worked like a charm.
Pre-approval is good, but just like pre-approval for a loan, it doesn't mean that the man is "good", but I have noticed this at work, if I am rocking with attractive female co-workers, it makes it easy for me to get another females number.
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This is true also. when I played ball and was younger I did alot of married women. And quite a few of them were married to very wealthy men. When I was in Ft. Lauderdale I had this one lady who came to Lauderdale once a week for business up from Miami. Her husband was a Fire Chief in Miami. She would come by my hotel every week for a quicky then leave. She was stunning. No matter what women will cheat as much as men if not more. They will do it for the novelty of it. I had a married girl who would actually haveher husband drp her off to my house in Hawaii. She was working for a company I hired to setup my show. She would tell him that she needed to come by and show me designs and whatever and come back in a couple hours. Now that is some great service.
Wow.. i've turned down hot ass because it was married. You don't feel anything for doing this, just like breathing?
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Wow.. i've turned down hot ass because it was married. You don't feel anything for doing this, just like breathing?
Back then I was not very picky. The only thing is I could never do someone who was either really ugly or had a shitty body. But, I just seemed to attract the married women or girlfriends. I never did any of my friends girlfriends or wives. I do have some scruples. I traveled alot and living in Hawaii I met girls who were there on vacation who basically just wanted to be with a local guy. Being a bouncer at one of the most popular nightspots in LA back in the early 80's was like a goldmine. And we (the bouncers) were known all over the country because girls would tell there friends at home and then their friends would come in and want to be with us. Now, being overweight it is all different. It is actually a great incentive to get back into shape especially since financially i am doing so good and I will be traveling alot soon.
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Without being physically attractive (primarily face) nothing else really should matter with regard to attracting the opposite sex. I mean if you can talk a good game, and are smart and funny, you won't get anywhere if you are ugly right?
agreed...even studies have proved that Bi lateral facial symmetry is what the opposite finds attractive and attractive people make more $, get more promotions...etc etc
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agreed...even studies have proved that Bi lateral facial symmetry is what the opposite finds attractive and attractive people make more $, get more promotions...etc etc
The more symmetrical the face, the more attractive...this is why I say that all women are attractive...I think for women that there is a certain phenotype (s)? for a attractive face.
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The more symmetrical the face, the more attractive...this is why I say that all women are attractive...I think for women that there is a certain phenotype (s)? for a attractive face.
mini driver is NOT attractive...man her chin goeth one way and the rest of her face goeth another
hmmm i dunno man....there might be certain phenotypes but then again men might also have different behavioural phenotypes that attracts em to different types of female phenotypes...
although keeping in mind...this is all blizzard day speculation
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mini driver is NOT attractive...man her chin goeth one way and the rest of her face goeth another
hmmm i dunno man....there might be certain phenotypes but then again men might also have different behavioural phenotypes that attracts em to different types of female phenotypes...
although keeping in mind...this is all blizzard day speculation
when I meant all women, I meant all races of women, that all races have beautiful women and there is or are certain similar phenotypes that are found in all races that are more attractive than others.