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Title: Man was Killed In Fight Over Gym Equipment
Post by: lax on December 15, 2009, 07:06:50 AM
Sorry, I don't know how to post the actual article

50 yr. old bb./social worker vs. skinny punk who said he was entitled to use elliptical machine first
summoned punk friends from oustide of gym
who ambushed bb from behind as he used equipment
killed him by hammering him and stabbing him to death in the back

hope they fry these scum

of course, grandfather of perp said he was always a 'good boy'
Title: Re: Thugs Kill Brooklyn BB Over Fight For Elliptical
Post by: 240 is Back on December 15, 2009, 07:08:13 AM
arm the social workers.  problem solved.
Title: Re: Thugs Kill Brooklyn BB Over Fight For Elliptical
Post by: spinnis on December 15, 2009, 07:11:14 AM
im guessing colored people? (no racist)
Title: Re: Thugs Kill Brooklyn BB Over Fight For Elliptical
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 15, 2009, 07:25:55 AM
im guessing colored people? (no racist)

As the sky is blue and my asshole is brown so are these idiots.
Title: Re: Thugs Kill Brooklyn BB Over Fight For Elliptical
Post by: Kwon on December 15, 2009, 07:27:32 AM
Who was the 50 yo BB / social worker?
Title: Re: Thugs Kill Brooklyn BB Over Fight For Elliptical
Post by: nukkaready on December 15, 2009, 07:28:57 AM
Low IQ + high testosterone = disastrous decision making
Title: Re: Thugs Kill Brooklyn BB Over Fight For Elliptical
Post by: Tre on December 15, 2009, 07:29:15 AM
im guessing colored people? (no racist)

No, young black guys don't have to do cardio, at least not on the machines. 

If the kid was black and if he wanted to use an elliptical, then he was obviously up to no good. 
Title: Re: Thugs Kill Brooklyn BB Over Fight For Elliptical
Post by: Tre on December 15, 2009, 07:29:51 AM
Low IQ + high testosterone = disastrous decision making

I'm guessing low testosterone, given the need to call friends for assistance in a matter like this.

Title: Re: Thugs Kill Brooklyn BB Over Fight For Elliptical
Post by: shootfighter1 on December 15, 2009, 07:31:51 AM
WTF...how the hell does someone go from arguing over an elliptical to a group killing in the gym? 
Title: Re: Thugs Kill Brooklyn BB Over Fight For Elliptical
Post by: Magnus Greel on December 15, 2009, 07:35:01 AM

the guy who was killed was black

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/12/15/2009-12-15_killer_gym_rats_thugs_slay_bklyn_social_worker_in_fight_over_exercise_equipment.html
Title: Re: Thugs Kill Brooklyn BB Over Fight For Elliptical
Post by: Tre on December 15, 2009, 07:35:55 AM
Judging by the picture being help up by the father, I'm calling 'hate crime': 

(http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/12/15/amd_gym_smith.jpg)

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/12/15/2009-12-15_killer_gym_rats_thugs_slay_bklyn_social_worker_in_fight_over_exercise_equipment.html

A Brooklyn social worker described as "the picture of health" was slain at his neighborhood gym in a feud over exercise equipment.

Douglas Smith, 50, was knifed and clobbered with a hammer by a pair of muscleheads who attacked him as he worked out at his East Flatbush health club.

Smith died Sunday morning at Kings County Hospital, a day after he was jumped inside the Church Avenue Fitness Club, cops said yesterday.

"He was a gentle giant," Smith's heartbroken father, Castello Smith, 77, said last night.

The father said he learned of his son's death from police yesterday afternoon.

"I wish I could have been with him [at the hospital]. At least he would have been able to hear my voice. I would have said, 'Dougie, this is your daddy,'" the elder Smith said.

An argument between Smith, a bodybuilding buff standing more than 6 feet tall, and a younger, scrawnier club member preceded the fatal attack, witnesses said.

Clubgoers said the dispute was over who claimed first dibs on a Nautilus elliptical machine. The club member quarreling with Smith summoned two pals to the gym for backup, witnesses said.

"They came from outside and attacked him with a hammer and a knife," Pat St. Charles, 37, a trainer at the club, told the Daily News.

Witnesses said Smith was exercising on the elliptical machine when the duo ambushed him from behind, stabbing him three times in the back and walloping him in the head with a hammer.

The only signs remaining of the attack yesterday were Smith's workout gloves and Gatorade bottle - left on the machine he had been using.

"How could a person so gentle come to such an end?" asked club member John Grimes, 29, who often worked out with Smith.

In addition to being a social worker for a nonprofit that helps parolees, Smith moonlighted as a bar bouncer and got a master's degree in psychology in the past year, Grimes said. Smith recently reunited with his 19-year-old son after they had been estranged for seven years, he said.

"He's the last to deserve this," Grimes said.

One of the alleged killers, Shawn Hing, 19, was arrested Sunday night and was arraigned in Brooklyn Criminal Court yesterday on a charge of second-degree murder, officials said. Court papers charge Hing, who is being held without bail, hit Smith with the hammer.

A source said Hing, of East Flatbush, immediately lawyered up and refused to speak with detectives.

"He's never been in a fight before," Albert Hing, 94, said of his grandson. "As far as I know, he's been a good boy."

A manhunt was on for Hing's accomplice, and detectives were seeking to question the club member who called the killers to the gym.

Title: Re: Thugs Kill Brooklyn BB Over Fight For Elliptical
Post by: dr.chimps on December 15, 2009, 07:44:21 AM
Judging by the picture being help up by the father, I'm calling 'hate crime': 

(http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/12/15/amd_gym_smith.jpg)
LOL. You mean the victim was Black! Looks like Moose didn't proof this story. And didn't check the source of that bogus story.

Moose!? You need yourself an editor to get your hate right.  ;)
Title: Re: Thugs Kill Brooklyn BB Over Fight For Elliptical
Post by: Tre on December 15, 2009, 08:37:39 AM
LOL. You mean the victim was Black! Looks like Moose didn't proof this story. And didn't check the source of that bogus story.

Moose!? You need yourself an editor to get your hate right.  ;)

The son looks very gay in that pose. 
Title: Re: Thugs Kill Brooklyn BB Over Fight For Elliptical
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 15, 2009, 08:40:54 AM
Nautilus elliptical are shit.  Now I could understand if it was over a Precor............
Title: Re: Thugs Kill Brooklyn BB Over Fight For Elliptical
Post by: _bruce_ on December 15, 2009, 08:41:35 AM
What assholes... Richard should kill them...
Title: Re: Thugs Kill Brooklyn BB Over Fight For Elliptical
Post by: BIG ACH on December 15, 2009, 08:59:14 AM

Thats why you need to keep cool all the time, you never know who the crazies are out there!!!  Sad!
Title: Re: Thugs Kill Brooklyn BB Over Fight For Elliptical
Post by: Purple Aki on December 15, 2009, 09:14:09 AM
If they taught mma to social workers this never would have happened. Young thugs fear the rear naked choke hold.
Title: Re: Thugs Kill Brooklyn BB Over Fight For Elliptical
Post by: spinnis on December 15, 2009, 09:19:37 AM
getting beaten to death by a fucking Hammer would suck
Title: Re: Thugs Kill Brooklyn BB Over Fight For Elliptical
Post by: Stark on December 15, 2009, 09:25:13 AM
Where is rosa park when you need her :D

Thugs: EY!!! Black this machine is only for Asians

In comes rosa park...

I demand this Elliptical to be used by everybody :D
Title: Re: Thugs Kill Brooklyn BB Over Fight For Elliptical
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 15, 2009, 09:27:04 AM
Sorry, I don't know how to post the actual article

50 yr. old bb./social worker vs. skinny punk who said he was entitled to use elliptical machine first
summoned punk friends from oustide of gym
who ambushed bb from behind as he used equipment
killed him by hammering him and stabbing him to death in the back

hope they fry these scum

of course, grandfather of perp said he was always a 'good boy'

Gangs are bad ass until you get one alone then he pleads for his life. Gangs = cowards
Title: Re: Thugs Kill Brooklyn BB Over Fight For Elliptical
Post by: Tre on December 15, 2009, 11:42:29 AM

Although I'm certain they ambushed him, it's somewhat surprising that no one else in the gym sought to intervene.

WTF is up with that? 
Title: Re: Thugs Kill Brooklyn BB Over Fight For Elliptical
Post by: spinnis on December 15, 2009, 11:43:47 AM
Although I'm certain they ambushed him, it's somewhat surprising that no one else in the gym sought to intervene.

WTF is up with that? 

would you try and wrestle down dudes with knifes? No.

you wouldn't and the rest of the world wouldn't.
Title: Re: Thugs Kill Brooklyn BB Over Fight For Elliptical
Post by: 240 is Back on December 15, 2009, 11:48:57 AM
"would you try and wrestle down dudes with knifes? No."

if I saw a couple of kids slashing up some old man, I would very loudly encourage every MFer in the place to pick up the nearest 5 and 10 pound plates and start using them as frisbees.

Maybe the pricks would come at me first at that point, but then there would be plenty of witnesses and potential heroes.  Unless it's an old people gym, you'd have to think a few people would help out.
Title: Re: Thugs Kill Brooklyn BB Over Fight For Elliptical
Post by: Tre on December 15, 2009, 12:32:32 PM
would you try and wrestle down dudes with knifes? No.

you wouldn't and the rest of the world wouldn't.

Without knowing either the attackers or their victim, I'm still not going to allow someone to be beaten and stabbed to death while I complete my workout.  There's more than enough metal in a gym to use, if necessary.  It was a gang of 3, not 12. 

Your rationale speaks directly to the pussification and lack of caring for community that's rampant in today's younger generation.  >:(
Title: Re: Thugs Kill Brooklyn BB Over Fight For Elliptical
Post by: BayGBM on December 15, 2009, 12:33:20 PM
"would you try and wrestle down dudes with knifes? No."

if I saw a couple of kids slashing up some old man, I would very loudly encourage every MFer in the place to pick up the nearest 5 and 10 pound plates and start using them as frisbees.

Maybe the pricks would come at me first at that point, but then there would be plenty of witnesses and potential heroes.  Unless it's an old people gym, you'd have to think a few people would help out.

It is easy to talk tough from behind a keyboard.  I am tempted to join you in doing so, but the reality is you do not know what you would do in a situation until you are in the situation.  Seeing a big guy get beat down and killed right in front of you might make you think twice about getting involved in the altercation.  You never know whom you are dealing with (as this episode proves).  I would like to play hero too, but one is often better off not getting directly involved.  Alert management?  Yes.  Call the police?  Of course!  But taking on violent punks while they are in the middle of killing someone will only add you to the body count.  :(
Title: Re: Thugs Kill Brooklyn BB Over Fight For Elliptical
Post by: JasonH on December 15, 2009, 12:35:01 PM
Haha - I know it's not supposed to be but this has actually turned out to be a pretty funny thread!  ;D

Only on Getbig!
Title: Re: Thugs Kill Brooklyn BB Over Fight For Elliptical
Post by: jwb on December 15, 2009, 12:59:51 PM
perps last name was Hing which is generally chinese...
Title: Re: Thugs Kill Brooklyn BB Over Fight For Elliptical
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 15, 2009, 01:16:35 PM
Without knowing either the attackers or their victim, I'm still not going to allow someone to be beaten and stabbed to death while I complete my workout.  There's more than enough metal in a gym to use, if necessary.  It was a gang of 3, not 12. 

Your rationale speaks directly to the pussification and lack of caring for community that's rampant in today's younger generation.  >:(

HAHAHA, yes and these thugs will find you walking out of a 7-11 then stab you in the back.
Title: Re: Thugs Kill Brooklyn BB Over Fight For Elliptical
Post by: Princess L on December 15, 2009, 05:01:56 PM
What a sad and pointless death  :'(




http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local&id=7172485

Title: Re: Thugs Kill Brooklyn BB Over Fight For Elliptical
Post by: Captain Equipoise on December 15, 2009, 05:21:06 PM
"would you try and wrestle down dudes with knifes? No."

if I saw a couple of kids slashing up some old man, I would very loudly encourage every MFer in the place to pick up the nearest 5 and 10 pound plates and start using them as frisbees.

Maybe the pricks would come at me first at that point, but then there would be plenty of witnesses and potential heroes.  Unless it's an old people gym, you'd have to think a few people would help out.

Or grab an ez curl bar and start swinging !!
Title: Re: Thugs Kill Brooklyn BB Over Fight For Elliptical
Post by: bigdumbbell on December 15, 2009, 05:27:59 PM
The son looks very gay in that pose. 
and u would know about gay poses
Title: Re: Thugs Kill Brooklyn BB Over Fight For Elliptical
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 15, 2009, 06:06:48 PM
He should have blindfolded them with dental floss....
Title: Re: Thugs Kill Brooklyn BB Over Fight For Elliptical
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 15, 2009, 06:12:21 PM
 ;)
Title: Man was Killed In Fight Over Gym Equipment
Post by: musclecenter on December 15, 2009, 07:17:06 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/12/15/2009-12-15_killer_gym_rats_thugs_slay_bklyn_social_worker_in_fight_over_exercise_equipment.html (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/12/15/2009-12-15_killer_gym_rats_thugs_slay_bklyn_social_worker_in_fight_over_exercise_equipment.html)

Thugs slay Brooklyn social worker Douglas Smith in fight over exercise equipment
BY Rocco Parascandola, Kerry Burke and Bill Hutchinson
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS

Monday, December 14th 2009, 11:12 PM



A Brooklyn social worker described as "the picture of health" was slain at his neighborhood gym in a feud over exercise equipment.

Douglas Smith, 50, was knifed and clobbered with a hammer by a pair of muscleheads who attacked him as he worked out at his East Flatbush health club.

Smith died Sunday morning at Kings County Hospital, a day after he was jumped inside the Church Avenue Fitness Club, cops said yesterday.

"He was a gentle giant," Smith's heartbroken father, Castello Smith, 77, said last night.

The father said he learned of his son's death from police yesterday afternoon.

"I wish I could have been with him [at the hospital]. At least he would have been able to hear my voice. I would have said, 'Dougie, this is your daddy,'" the elder Smith said.

An argument between Smith, a bodybuilding buff standing more than 6 feet tall, and a younger, scrawnier club member preceded the fatal attack, witnesses said.

Clubgoers said the dispute was over who claimed first dibs on a Nautilus elliptical machine. The club member quarreling with Smith summoned two pals to the gym for backup, witnesses said.

"They came from outside and attacked him with a hammer and a knife," Pat St. Charles, 37, a trainer at the club, told the Daily News.

Witnesses said Smith was exercising on the elliptical machine when the duo ambushed him from behind, stabbing him three times in the back and walloping him in the head with a hammer.

The only signs remaining of the attack yesterday were Smith's workout gloves and Gatorade bottle - left on the machine he had been using.

"How could a person so gentle come to such an end?" asked club member John Grimes, 29, who often worked out with Smith.

In addition to being a social worker for a nonprofit that helps parolees, Smith moonlighted as a bar bouncer and got a master's degree in psychology in the past year, Grimes said. Smith recently reunited with his 19-year-old son after they had been estranged for seven years, he said.

"He's the last to deserve this," Grimes said.

One of the alleged killers, Shawn Hing, 19, was arrested Sunday night and was arraigned in Brooklyn Criminal Court yesterday on a charge of second-degree murder, officials said. Court papers charge Hing, who is being held without bail, hit Smith with the hammer.

A source said Hing, of East Flatbush, immediately lawyered up and refused to speak with detectives.

"He's never been in a fight before," Albert Hing, 94, said of his grandson. "As far as I know, he's been a good boy."

A manhunt was on for Hing's accomplice, and detectives were seeking to question the club member who called the killers to the gym.

rparascandola@nydailynews.com

With Michael J. Feeney



Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/12/15/2009-12-15_killer_gym_rats_thugs_slay_bklyn_social_worker_in_fight_over_exercise_equipment.html#ixzz0ZomNg7Qh


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/12/15/2009-12-15_killer_gym_rats_thugs_slay_bklyn_social_worker_in_fight_over_exercise_equipment.html#ixzz0ZomNg7Qh
Title: Re: Man was Killed In Fight Over Gym Equipment
Post by: BIG DUB on December 15, 2009, 07:32:53 PM
You have to pick your battles in this life..The person you choose to fuck with or in this case bully off of a piece of exercise equipment may be the person who then decides to take your life. Lesson being DON'T START SHIT with people..
Title: Re: Man was Killed In Fight Over Gym Equipment
Post by: swilkins1984 on December 15, 2009, 07:35:00 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/12/15/2009-12-15_killer_gym_rats_thugs_slay_bklyn_social_worker_in_fight_over_exercise_equipment.html (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/12/15/2009-12-15_killer_gym_rats_thugs_slay_bklyn_social_worker_in_fight_over_exercise_equipment.html)

Thugs slay Brooklyn social worker Douglas Smith in fight over exercise equipment
BY Rocco Parascandola, Kerry Burke and Bill Hutchinson
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS

Monday, December 14th 2009, 11:12 PM



A Brooklyn social worker described as "the picture of health" was slain at his neighborhood gym in a feud over exercise equipment.

Douglas Smith, 50, was knifed and clobbered with a hammer by a pair of muscleheads who attacked him as he worked out at his East Flatbush health club.

Smith died Sunday morning at Kings County Hospital, a day after he was jumped inside the Church Avenue Fitness Club, cops said yesterday.

"He was a gentle giant," Smith's heartbroken father, Castello Smith, 77, said last night.

The father said he learned of his son's death from police yesterday afternoon.

"I wish I could have been with him [at the hospital]. At least he would have been able to hear my voice. I would have said, 'Dougie, this is your daddy,'" the elder Smith said.

An argument between Smith, a bodybuilding buff standing more than 6 feet tall, and a younger, scrawnier club member preceded the fatal attack, witnesses said.

Clubgoers said the dispute was over who claimed first dibs on a Nautilus elliptical machine. The club member quarreling with Smith summoned two pals to the gym for backup, witnesses said.

"They came from outside and attacked him with a hammer and a knife," Pat St. Charles, 37, a trainer at the club, told the Daily News.

Witnesses said Smith was exercising on the elliptical machine when the duo ambushed him from behind, stabbing him three times in the back and walloping him in the head with a hammer.

The only signs remaining of the attack yesterday were Smith's workout gloves and Gatorade bottle - left on the machine he had been using.

"How could a person so gentle come to such an end?" asked club member John Grimes, 29, who often worked out with Smith.

In addition to being a social worker for a nonprofit that helps parolees, Smith moonlighted as a bar bouncer and got a master's degree in psychology in the past year, Grimes said. Smith recently reunited with his 19-year-old son after they had been estranged for seven years, he said.

"He's the last to deserve this," Grimes said.

One of the alleged killers, Shawn Hing, 19, was arrested Sunday night and was arraigned in Brooklyn Criminal Court yesterday on a charge of second-degree murder, officials said. Court papers charge Hing, who is being held without bail, hit Smith with the hammer.

A source said Hing, of East Flatbush, immediately lawyered up and refused to speak with detectives.

"He's never been in a fight before," Albert Hing, 94, said of his grandson. "As far as I know, he's been a good boy."

A manhunt was on for Hing's accomplice, and detectives were seeking to question the club member who called the killers to the gym.

rparascandola@nydailynews.com

With Michael J. Feeney



Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/12/15/2009-12-15_killer_gym_rats_thugs_slay_bklyn_social_worker_in_fight_over_exercise_equipment.html#ixzz0ZomNg7Qh


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/12/15/2009-12-15_killer_gym_rats_thugs_slay_bklyn_social_worker_in_fight_over_exercise_equipment.html#ixzz0ZomNg7Qh


 >:(
Title: Re: Man was Killed In Fight Over Gym Equipment
Post by: lesaucer on December 15, 2009, 08:21:32 PM
You have to pick your battles in this life..The person you choose to fuck with or in this case bully off of a piece of exercise equipment may be the person who then decides to take your life. Lesson being DON'T START SHIT with people..


yes and also make sure to have a gun almost everywhere you go. people are CRAZY, you never know what the fuck no-brain guy get in your car with a knife at a stop while your driving home just finished a late night chest/shoulders workout, what you gonna do? take the gun under your seat and blow his head off otherwise he knife your fucking throat off or back just like douglas smith...  gotta take extreme measure to survive in this fucking place, especially when immigrants number increasing. no racism but its facts sorry, thats whats up
Title: Re: Man was Killed In Fight Over Gym Equipment
Post by: MP on December 15, 2009, 08:32:45 PM
You have to pick your battles in this life..The person you choose to fuck with or in this case bully off of a piece of exercise equipment may be the person who then decides to take your life. Lesson being DON'T START SHIT with people..

A lot of truth to that.

But there's a big difference between scuffling with someone over a dispute ... and coming at them from behind with a knife and hammer.

Odds are, these vermin have some kind of record despite their young age and should have been locked up a while ago.

If the offenders aren't given the death penalty, sterilize the vermin so they can never breed their kind again.
Title: Re: Man was Killed In Fight Over Gym Equipment
Post by: BIG DUB on December 15, 2009, 08:55:28 PM

Say's it all..


http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=7433592 (http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=7433592)
Title: Re: Man was Killed In Fight Over Gym Equipment
Post by: Special Ed on December 15, 2009, 09:22:45 PM
yes and also make sure to have a gun almost everywhere you go. people are CRAZY, you never know what the fuck no-brain guy get in your car with a knife at a stop while your driving home just finished a late night chest/shoulders workout, what you gonna do? take the gun under your seat and blow his head off otherwise he knife your fucking throat off or back just like douglas smith...  gotta take extreme measure to survive in this fucking place, especially when immigrants number increasing. no racism but its facts sorry, thats whats up
great advice. I usually pack my glock in either my spandex shorts or my fanny pack when training heavy. I seem to get more attention from the ladies when I keep it in my spandex. When they ask what's up with the bulge, I jump up on the nearest bench in my 8 inch heels and belt out "You pull the trigger on my....LOVE GUN-nnnnnnn. LOVE GUN-nnnnnnn."

chicks dig that.
Title: Re: Man was Killed In Fight Over Gym Equipment
Post by: Pecs on December 15, 2009, 09:51:47 PM
that is actually pretty sad.......

whhy not just share the equipment???
Title: Re: Thugs Kill Brooklyn BB Over Fight For Elliptical
Post by: uberman09 on December 15, 2009, 10:13:15 PM
"would you try and wrestle down dudes with knifes? No."

if I saw a couple of kids slashing up some old man, I would very loudly encourage every MFer in the place to pick up the nearest 5 and 10 pound plates and start using them as frisbees.

Maybe the pricks would come at me first at that point, but then there would be plenty of witnesses and potential heroes.  Unless it's an old people gym, you'd have to think a few people would help out.
noone would do anything. We would just stay there and stare until it's finished then maybe rushing to call 911. Some wouldnt even do that and would just stand still saying "wtf Wtf wtf" over and over. Some would even get back to their next set of bench press like if nothing hapened puting their headphones back and pretending they didnt see anything. Honestly i see something like that happen i m going to think "thanks god for natural selection" and nothing else.

Also what i ve learned is that these "thugs" have a lot of free time considering they have no job,    to plan , prepare everysingle of their actions and often repeated em on several people perfecting their "technique" over time. It means they know what they re doing and that when you re stunned, they have a decisive advantage.