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Title: Question regarding diuretics
Post by: WingedLion on December 16, 2009, 06:30:58 AM
I helped this guy go to 7 % bodyfat. Today he wants to take pictures

I have him eating carbs nonstop until tonight in addittion to not drinking water ... should he take a little diuretic too ?

Let me know about ideas ... about 5-6 hours until we take the pics

Title: Re: Question regarding diuretics
Post by: dan18 on December 16, 2009, 06:33:58 AM
I helped this guy go to 7 % bodyfat. Today he wants to take pictures

I have him eating carbs nonstop until tonight in addittion to not drinking water ... should he take a little diuretic too ?

Let me know about ideas ... about 5-6 hours until we take the pics


At 7% body fat unless hes doing a show stay away from that shit most bb will get from 3% to 5% for a show diuretics are not needed if you diet correctly
Title: Re: Question regarding diuretics
Post by: dan18 on December 16, 2009, 06:54:00 AM
poor guy endured enough diet crap

we decided to stop and take pics today

first time ever dieting or lifting weights .. he's been doing it for 2 fucking months !

He used to be VERY fat and this was his dream ...to have ripped abs ..and I helped him achieve it.

The idea behind a LITTLE diuretic is to create a more ripped effect/illusion

I'm waiting for seasoned experts to chimme in ..

This will be done tonight so let me know what else can we add to not drinking water and eating lots of carbs to get the "ripped" look
um Ive done may BB shows and when you're draining water you eat no carbs a few days before a show and the day of you eat a little at a time because when you no carb you become flat,its called carbing up so you stay ripped but you're muscles swell.
Again if hes not doing a show then eat regular amount of carbs....

just so you know

definition - is separation between muscle groups
ripped- the actual separation of the muscle creating lines within the muscle
Title: Re: Question regarding diuretics
Post by: MORTALCOIL on December 16, 2009, 06:59:11 AM
Aren't you supposed to have enough water intake so that your muscles retain the glycogen (2,6g of water per gram of glycogen)? If you're totally dehydrated (and using diuretics aims in that direction), what's the point of your carb loading?
Title: Re: Question regarding diuretics
Post by: WingedLion on December 16, 2009, 07:00:30 AM
He must be so glad, he surely has the best guru in Romania.
I actually know how to get ripped

do you ?
Title: Re: Question regarding diuretics
Post by: WingedLion on December 16, 2009, 07:03:59 AM
Aren't you supposed to have enough water intake so that your muscles retain the glycogen (2,6g of water per gram of glycogen)? If you're totally dehydrated (and using diuretics aims in that direction), what's the point of your carb loading?
I'm only carbloading while stopping water this morning ...I was just asking if anyone has any etter ideas

or if it matters at all and we should just take the damn fotos

I figured out with some carbs after a couple of very low carb days he'll get a better pump when pumping up a little before the pictures

oh yead : dan18 ....... post a pic where you are ripped if not keep quiet moron

otherwise I will start training Kiwiol TO REPEL 3-4 hours down your forehead to reach your nose and punchit
Title: Re: Question regarding diuretics
Post by: WingedLion on December 16, 2009, 07:06:09 AM
Congratulations, you look like a decent 170lb natty on steroids.
wrong homo

I was 182 there and steroid free..took me 2 months to look like that from the pic above where you make fun of my normal body

anyway..this guy saw this pic in jeans and wanted to look like this.. I told him 2 months I can get him this ripped... he didn't believe me..1 and 1/2 months later here we are. Needless to say he is a believer now !
Title: Re: Question regarding diuretics
Post by: WingedLion on December 16, 2009, 07:07:43 AM
I'm straight ... I swear !
ummmm...okay  :-\
Title: Re: Question regarding diuretics
Post by: Smokincrazy on December 16, 2009, 07:19:20 AM
Congratulations, you look like a decent 170lb natty on steroids.
Congrats your pulling childrens toys out of your ass
Title: Re: Question regarding diuretics
Post by: dan18 on December 16, 2009, 07:20:19 AM
I'm only carbloading while stopping water this morning ...I was just asking if anyone has any etter ideas

or if it matters at all and we should just take the damn fotos

I figured out with some carbs after a couple of very low carb days he'll get a better pump when pumping up a little before the pictures

oh yead : dan18 ....... post a pic where you are ripped if not keep quiet moron

otherwise I will start training Kiwiol TO REPEL 3-4 hours down your forehead to reach your nose and punchit
unlike you i dont need to post 10215245321 54 pics of myself to prove anything my pics are on the pic board and natty unlike the 100 mgs a day of dball you claimed to take and still you cannot break 200 pounds with you;re shitty genetics
Title: Re: Question regarding diuretics
Post by: WingedLion on December 16, 2009, 07:27:05 AM
unlike you i dont need to post 10215245321 54 pics of myself to prove anything my pics are on the pic board and natty unlike the 100 mgs a day of dball you claimed to take and still you cannot break 200 pounds with you;re shitty genetics
answer my question you fucking alien offspring

(http://www.mysteriousworld.com/Content/Images/Journal/2003/Summer/Giants/GoldGiant.jpg)

have you ever been ripped ?

if not .... STFU
Title: Re: Question regarding diuretics
Post by: spinnis on December 16, 2009, 07:28:02 AM
a little bit overkill imo :D
Title: Re: Question regarding diuretics
Post by: WingedLion on December 16, 2009, 07:32:08 AM
a little bit overkill imo :D
? what do you mean?
Title: Re: Question regarding diuretics
Post by: Stark on December 16, 2009, 07:32:21 AM
answer my question you fucking alien offspring

(http://www.mysteriousworld.com/Content/Images/Journal/2003/Summer/Giants/GoldGiant.jpg)

have you ever been ripped ?

if not .... STFU

It doesn't matter how many times you post your picture here it does not change the unfortunate cards you have been dealt by your parents regarding your eastern european eaghead look - and I have send you image around the office and apart from one coworker everybody said you're pretty fugly - 1 out of 20 is not that bad you may say but keep in mind that war-pig that wouldnt reject is probably the most disgusting human being I have seen in all  my life - so it's pretty save to say... yep your ugly.

Keep it up sport,
Title: Re: Question regarding diuretics
Post by: dan18 on December 16, 2009, 07:33:18 AM
here ya go
Title: Re: Question regarding diuretics
Post by: dan18 on December 16, 2009, 07:34:55 AM
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=92021.msg1327229#msg1327229
Title: Re: Question regarding diuretics
Post by: WingedLion on December 16, 2009, 07:46:13 AM
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=92021.msg1327229#msg1327229
exactly my point sport

never been ripped so you don't know what's it all about

still waiting for others oppinions
Title: Re: Question regarding diuretics
Post by: WingedLion on December 16, 2009, 07:49:38 AM
It doesn't matter what you weigh you don't look more than 170lbs. All this time you're calling people tiny tits and what not and you actually look like THIS:
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=311144.0;attach=351340;image)

And then you talk about ME being a "shittalker"? Yeah congratulations AGAIN you removed your picture from your reply because it is embarrasing that you compared yourself to me, I was barely 17 in this picture you posted, how awesome are you that you compare yourself to 17year olds:
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=311144.0;attach=351342;image)
I don't look that bad for my age and unlike you, I NEVER CLAIMED TO BE BIG.


:D
Title: Re: Question regarding diuretics
Post by: Meso_z on December 16, 2009, 07:50:24 AM
I helped this guy go to 7 % bodyfat. Today he wants to take pictures

I have him eating carbs nonstop until tonight in addittion to not drinking water ... should he take a little diuretic too ?

Let me know about ideas ... about 5-6 hours until we take the pics



i think he can take a little bit.

hydrichlorothiazide.

HCTZ, its a mild diuretic..

2-3 tabs.
Title: Re: Question regarding diuretics
Post by: Tapeworm on December 16, 2009, 07:54:04 AM
Eat some dandelions.  Yellow ones, not the death star stage ones.
Title: Re: Question regarding diuretics
Post by: WingedLion on December 16, 2009, 08:01:37 AM
i think he can take a little bit.

hydrichlorothiazide.

HCTZ, its a mild diuretic..

2-3 tabs.
thanks

I will go see if they have it here at the pharmacy
Title: Re: Question regarding diuretics
Post by: WingedLion on December 16, 2009, 08:02:30 AM
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t224/SimplyHuge/overheadabs-1-1.jpg)

(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t224/SimplyHuge/n25807961_35251116_6789.jpg)


there was no carb loading or water manipulation in the above photos.  these were just photos taken while i was doing a very low-carb diet.  

(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t224/SimplyHuge/n25807961_37410817_7739.jpg)

the last one is after a show i finished.  i had already eaten some pizza, drank gatorade, lots of water, etc.  


i think in general, its best to just low carb diet, take pictures in the morning when you first wake up, or after you get done working out.  those are the times you look your best.  

the water manipulation might make some difference, but i leave that to the guys who do bbing for a professional living.
thanx dude ..you look awesome there
Title: Re: Question regarding diuretics
Post by: Captain Equipoise on December 16, 2009, 08:37:13 AM
Have him take lasix (furosemide) 20mg 4-6 hours apart... one tab in the morning, one in the afternoon (lasix lasts 6 hours, hence the name LAsts SIX hours) then 20 minutes before pictures have him drink some high sugar fruit juice (fruit punch, cranberry, etc.) should come out great.
Title: Re: Question regarding diuretics
Post by: WingedLion on December 16, 2009, 08:38:14 AM
Have him take lasix (furosemide) 20mg 4-6 hours apart... one tab in the morning, one in the afternoon (lasix lasts 6 hours, hence the name LAsts SIX hours) then 20 minutes before pictures have him drink some high sugar fruit juice (fruit punch, cranberry, etc.) should come out great.

thanx man
Title: Re: Question regarding diuretics
Post by: Captain Equipoise on December 16, 2009, 08:42:57 AM
thanx man

NP, if you only have access to hydrochlorothiazide's, take one 25mg in the morning..it's stronger then lasix

aldactone is the weakest of the bunch, he can go up to 50mg (2 tabs)

just remember to take them early (before) dinner time otherwise he'll be getting up every 15 minutes to piss in the midle of the night (heh, made that mistake once!)
Title: Re: Question regarding diuretics
Post by: Fitfire on December 16, 2009, 12:01:01 PM
NO, do NOT have him take 2 -3 tabs of hydrochlorothyazide all at once especially if he has cut water to a couple oz while taking in carbs.  I wouldn't have him do lasix either, but it's his decision i guess...
he's only worked out 2 months?    just cut water and carb..pump up and take the pics.. he'll be happy, he's only competing against himself
Title: Re: Question regarding diuretics
Post by: wavelength on December 16, 2009, 01:12:14 PM
sadly, those days are gone.  im a "permabulker" at the moment   :'(

how so, I thought you wanted to get ripped?
Title: Re: Question regarding diuretics
Post by: WingedLion on December 16, 2009, 01:32:53 PM
NO, do NOT have him take 2 -3 tabs of hydrochlorothyazide all at once especially if he has cut water to a couple oz while taking in carbs.  I wouldn't have him do lasix either, but it's his decision i guess...
he's only worked out 2 months?    just cut water and carb..pump up and take the pics.. he'll be happy, he's only competing against himself
I just had him eat some carbs and that was it

no diuretics

took the pics

this guy has amazing discipline

I told him exactly what to do and he did it to a T

Now .... he never worked out before in his life

He is  k1 FIGHTER

I will post pics as soon as I download them

He used to be really really fat , like 240 with no muscle at 6'

I got him at 7-8% and 173 lbs natural just diet cardio and weightlifting

I think he got awesome results. His dream was to have a nice sixpack. I'm proud of him.
Title: Re: Question regarding diuretics
Post by: WingedLion on December 16, 2009, 01:38:26 PM
i did, but then i quit lifting for a couple months and am just getting back into it.  trying to get my strength back for now before dieting again.

i was working some long hours 70-80 hrs a week for a while.  It was just to busy to be lifting after work, so thats why i took a break.


You have very good genetics my man

the way youlooked at that show or in the lockerroom is the perfect build in my oppinion
Title: Re: Question regarding diuretics
Post by: wavelength on December 16, 2009, 01:39:02 PM
i did, but then i quit lifting for a couple months and am just getting back into it.  trying to get my strength back for now before dieting again.

i was working some long hours 70-80 hrs a week for a while.  It was just to busy to be lifting after work, so thats why i took a break.

I see, I did that for a year (70 hr weeks), it's not easy to keep up motivation.
Title: Re: Question regarding diuretics
Post by: wavelength on December 16, 2009, 01:41:35 PM
I just had him eat some carbs and that was it

no diuretics

took the pics

this guy has amazing discipline

I told him exactly what to do and he did it to a T

Now .... he never worked out before in his life

He is  k1 FIGHTER

I will post pics as soon as I download them

He used to be really really fat , like 240 with no muscle at 6'

I got him at 7-8% and 173 lbs natural just diet cardio and weightlifting

I think he got awesome results. His dream was to have a nice sixpack. I'm proud of him.

How tall is he?

edit: forget it, missed it in the post
Title: Re: Question regarding diuretics
Post by: wavelength on December 16, 2009, 03:19:28 PM
he looks very good, great work
Title: Re: Question regarding diuretics
Post by: WingedLion on December 16, 2009, 03:20:32 PM
he looks very good, great work
thanx ...it's his work though

I just told him and showed him what and how to do it

Title: Re: Question regarding diuretics
Post by: kevinf on December 16, 2009, 07:51:51 PM
funny..for a once fat guy ur friend has no signs of stretch marks...
before pics or bullshit
Title: Re: Question regarding diuretics
Post by: lesaucer on December 16, 2009, 07:57:14 PM
good job man! show us some before pictures
Title: Re: Question regarding diuretics
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on December 16, 2009, 08:08:17 PM
I helped this guy go to 7 % bodyfat. Today he wants to take pictures

I have him eating carbs nonstop until tonight in addittion to not drinking water ... should he take a little diuretic too ?

Let me know about ideas ... about 5-6 hours until we take the pics



i think diuretics may affect his muscles fullness!!.. they take water from muscles too!..
Title: Re: Question regarding diuretics
Post by: WingedLion on December 16, 2009, 11:49:05 PM
funny..for a once fat guy ur friend has no signs of stretch marks...
before pics or bullshit
u are retarded

no strech marks...just some loose abdomen skin

no beforepic
Title: Re: Question regarding diuretics
Post by: aglifter on December 17, 2009, 12:56:37 AM
tiny twink, but good rippedness.  Needs to add 50 pounds of muscle.

Here's the guy and my training partener

again : been working out seriously for 2 months, dieted and did cardio

6 feet tall, 173lbs, I'm guessing 8 % bodyfat
Title: Re: Question regarding diuretics
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on December 17, 2009, 07:18:17 AM
So he's a K1 fighter?
Yet he was super obese before he started 'working' with you?
So A.How is it if youre so knowledgable you look like shit yourself? and
    B.Why do you lie so much?
Title: Re: Question regarding diuretics
Post by: WingedLion on December 17, 2009, 04:11:14 PM
So he's a K1 fighter?
Yet he was super obese before he started 'working' with you?
So A.How is it if youre so knowledgable you look like shit yourself? and
    B.Why do you lie so much?

I never lie

he was super obese a few years back

he was about 190 when he started with me ....
Title: Re: Question regarding diuretics
Post by: Captain Equipoise on December 17, 2009, 06:46:44 PM
What's his name/stats ? you have a link to him on sherdog ?
Title: Re: Question regarding diuretics
Post by: outby43 on December 18, 2009, 01:15:41 AM
lol...what a stick.  I would crush his chest with a roundhouse kick and break his toothpick arms if he dared to block.
Title: Re: Question regarding diuretics
Post by: WillGrant on December 18, 2009, 01:57:55 AM
He's looking good , well done to him and you sev
Title: Re: Question regarding diuretics
Post by: Tombo on December 18, 2009, 02:31:37 AM
:D

sure u do

I find it funny here in my city how these huge mofo thugs or security firm intervention teams  don't dare do shit ...

I have tons of stories with him... he is very nice but very quick tempered

"can i put my arm around you? (no homo)"