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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Vince G, CSN MFT on December 16, 2009, 08:52:25 AM
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Even with the scandal, his still ended up winning. Can't deny his wins
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,580368,00.html?test=latestnews
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who the fck else would u pick?? fckn david beckham??
even if he did bang 30white women he is still highest paid athlete in the world - NGA pls
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I've said it many times...One should have nothing to do with the other....
I pick either him or Roger Federer...I'm huge tennis junky so I would have liked to have seen Federer win it.
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Golf? Athlete?
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Golf? Athlete?
and who made more $$
A-Rod won world series NO
LEbron james NAW
Tom Brady NAW
Golf is a solo sport and you dont cover your face with a helmet = coverage and notoriety
also golf is the one sport played by more wealthy people than any other so what do you expect
ALL ABOUT $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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and who made more $$
A-Rod won world series NO
LEbron james NAW
Tom Brady NAW
Golf is a solo sport and you dont cover your face with a helmet = coverage and notoriety
also golf is the one sport played by more wealthy people than any other so what do you expect
ALL ABOUT $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Roger Federer...One athlete sport and now has more Grand Slams than any other male tennis player.
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and who made more $$
A-Rod won world series NO
LEbron james NAW
Tom Brady NAW
Golf is a solo sport and you dont cover your face with a helmet = coverage and notoriety
also golf is the one sport played by more wealthy people than any other so what do you expect
ALL ABOUT $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Operah made more money then Woods...and no...hosting talkshows is not a sport. Neither is golf.
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Operah made more money then Woods...and no...hosting talkshows is not a sport. Neither is golf.
in reference to the the thread title
Re: Tiger Woods voted Athlete of the Decade
does nike sponser oprah?
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Federer and Armstrong. If Serena had stayed healthy, she'd be in the convo.
Any other women?
No one voted for Iris Kyle?
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in reference to the the thread title
Re: Tiger Woods voted Athlete of the Decade
does nike sponser oprah?
So...just because you are wearing Nike clothing or shoes...your an athlete? LOL!
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I'd say federer
2000-2010 he dominated tennis
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i think this award was already printed and selected - and changing it now would have leaked, and would have reflected poorly on the partiality of the judges
im betting it doesn't get all that much push though.
The AP didn't survey all their folks 2 weeks ago, surely this took place over a series of months and until the end of Nov, Tiger was without a doubt the guy with the most impact in his sport.
If you held this vote TODAY, his ass wouldn't win, let's be honest.
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Tiger needs to have a press confrence and just tell everyone that, yes I enjoyed laying pipe for some strange. I am a great golfer "if not the greatest". Fuck all you bitches that I screwed that are coming out of the wood work. I am not giving anymore of you bitches a dime of hush money. After I pay off my wife, I am going to go out and get as much strange as possible. All in all, fuck you bitches and I will see everyone at the course. Peace out.
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A golfer is an athlete? I suppose a professional pool player is then as well.
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I'm just sitting here eating a big ass plate of spaghetti.
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I'm just sitting here eating a big ass plate of spaghetti.
WITH THAT I VOTE YOU ATHLETE OF THIS THREAD ;D
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WITH THAT I VOTE YOU ATHLETE OF THIS THREAD ;D
thank u friend 8)
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thank u friend 8)
This is get big we have no friends >:( ;D
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This is get big we have no friends >:( ;D
Welcome to the thunderdome, bitches!!
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I VOTE RONNIE COLEMAN!!!!!!!
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Tiger needs to have a press confrence and just tell everyone that, yes I enjoyed laying pipe for some strange. I am a great golfer "if not the greatest". Fuck all you bitches that I screwed that are coming out of the wood work. I am not giving anymore of you bitches a dime of hush money. After I pay off my wife, I am going to go out and get as much strange as possible. All in all, fuck you bitches and I will see everyone at the course. Peace out.
That would be supercool if he said that.
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it takes tremendous atheltic capability to be able to swing a golf club like tiger does. those saying tiger isnt an athlete, must have never watched tiger play, or tried to emulate his play.
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Anyone know where Big Ron finished, I didnt see his name on the list of athletes.
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Roger Federer...One athlete sport and now has more Grand Slams than any other male tennis player.
Best argument ITT and easily a solid #2 if not the greatest.
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How about we do this for each "sport" (don't care whether you think golf is a sport or not).
My votes:
Baseball: Pujols
Basketball: Kobe
Football: This one's hard; Manning?
Soccer: Don't know soccer well; Ronaldo (BRA)?
Golf: Tiger no contest
Bowling: Norm Duke
Tennis: Federer for men no contest; not sure about women, seems like there's a lot more parity
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A golfer is an athlete? I suppose a professional pool player is then as well.
QFT
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Manny Pacquiao! >:(
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And Obama wins the Nobel Peace Prize...And people think the world isn't ending in 2012... :-\
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And Obama wins the Nobel Peace Prize...And people think the world isn't ending in 2012... :-\
right..shit palin actually has a political voice...picture that?
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Golf shouldn't be called a sport, it should be called a skill...Look at John Daly, does he look like an athlete to you? Other stupid so-called sports is pool,Bowling, and Nascar,...None of these sports really require a person to be physically fit.Heck most pool players ,bowlers and Golfers Smoke.
Here is a pic of an so called athlete, lol
Just for the record.If Tiger Woods didn't have money, that hot ass blond he is married to would even give him the time of day, if he didn't have all the money he had.I have seen Tiger Woods in person and he is no an attractive man by any means.He looks kind of like "ET" with those weird eyes of his.
Tiger at best is an average looking man with lots of $$$$$$$
He was lucky to have her, I am surprised she didn't cheat on him with a good looking man.
I guarantee if Tiger Woods went broke tomorrow that girl would leave him so fast it would make his head spin.......
Oh yeah here is a pic of a real athlete,,,,,A golfer ,lmao
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Usain Bolt.
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Golf shouldn't be called a sport, it should be called a skill...Look at John Daly, does he look like an athlete to you? Other stupid so-called sports is pool,Bowling, and Nascar,...None of these sports really require a person to be physically fit.Heck most pool players ,bowlers and Golfers Smoke.
Here is a pic of an so called athlete, lol
Just for the record.If Tiger Woods didn't have money, that hot ass blond he is married to would even give him the time of day, if he didn't have all the money he had.I have seen Tiger Woods in person and he is no an attractive man by any means.He looks kind of like "ET" with those weird eyes of his.
Tiger at best is an average looking man with lots of $$$$$$$
He was lucky to have her, I am surprised she didn't cheat on him with a good looking man.
I guarantee if Tiger Woods went broke tomorrow that girl would leave him so fast it would make his head spin.......
Oh yeah here is a pic of a real athlete,,,,,A golfer ,lmao
you sound like a hater bro...John Daly is teh shit...
lol im fuckin with you...if you can do it at 70 years of age...its not a sport
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Golf shouldn't be called a sport, it should be called a skill...Look at John Daly, does he look like an athlete to you? Other stupid so-called sports is pool,Bowling, and Nascar,...None of these sports really require a person to be physically fit.Heck most pool players ,bowlers and Golfers Smoke.
Here is a pic of an so called athlete, lol
Just for the record.If Tiger Woods didn't have money, that hot ass blond he is married to would even give him the time of day, if he didn't have all the money he had.I have seen Tiger Woods in person and he is no an attractive man by any means.He looks kind of like "ET" with those weird eyes of his.
Tiger at best is an average looking man with lots of $$$$$$$
He was lucky to have her, I am surprised she didn't cheat on him with a good looking man.
I guarantee if Tiger Woods went broke tomorrow that girl would leave him so fast it would make his head spin.......
Oh yeah here is a pic of a real athlete,,,,,A golfer ,lmao
Yes, John Daley the best golfer ever 8)
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Usain Bolt.
QFMFT
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John Daly was out at a golf tournament looking as thin as a rake from getting his stomach stapled.
I laughed when he said he lost weight, "the right way."
Fat people's lack of willpower is sickening! >:(
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How about we do this for each "sport" (don't care whether you think golf is a sport or not).
My votes:
Baseball: Pujols
Basketball: Kobe
Football: This one's hard; Manning?
Soccer: Don't know soccer well; Ronaldo (BRA)?
Golf: Tiger no contest
Bowling: Norm Duke
Tennis: Federer for men no contest; not sure about women, seems like there's a lot more parity
I hate baseball, and have no idea who is good at bowling so I'll go along with everything but Manning. If you're going to go qb I think you have to choose Favre. Manning has been chasing records, and Favre has been setting them. If it's not Favre, I think you have to go Brady for the three SB's. They are the new 49er's......for now.
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Golf? Athlete?
Exactly. How fucking retarded. Where there any Ness-carr "Athletes" nominated too? ::)
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Golf shouldn't be called a sport, it should be called a skill...Look at John Daly, does he look like an athlete to you? Other stupid so-called sports is pool,Bowling, and Nascar,...None of these sports really require a person to be physically fit.Heck most pool players ,bowlers and Golfers Smoke.
Here is a pic of an so called athlete, lol
Just for the record.If Tiger Woods didn't have money, that hot ass blond he is married to would even give him the time of day, if he didn't have all the money he had.I have seen Tiger Woods in person and he is no an attractive man by any means.He looks kind of like "ET" with those weird eyes of his.
Tiger at best is an average looking man with lots of $$$$$$$
He was lucky to have her, I am surprised she didn't cheat on him with a good looking man.
I guarantee if Tiger Woods went broke tomorrow that girl would leave him so fast it would make his head spin.......
Oh yeah here is a pic of a real athlete,,,,,A golfer ,lmao
I know most people do the "X 2" thing, but that doesn't do justice to your post. I've used the John Daley argument myself, but let's add Lee Trevino and Jack Nichlos too. Seriously, look at these guys and tell me WTF is "athletic" about these dipshits? How bout that big fat fuck that was living in his car and Best Buy stepped up to help him? Good golfers......sure....... greatest athletes of the day let alone a fucking decade??? Give me a fucking break! >:( I'll bet 10-20% of these fucking douchebags have nothing in their background that most would consider remotely impressive athletically, and I bet the same percent were either total outcasts or voted "most outstanding band member" in high school.
Golf is a game..... not a sport. If I hit a stone down the road with a branch/ or by kicking it, and get it to the next dead tree in the shortest amount of swings/kicks does that mean I'm a great athlete? What's next? Someone who has a knack for tiddly-winks or marbles being voted number one athlete? Wow.....the training regimine must be insane for these guys :P
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I know most people do the "X 2" thing, but that doesn't do justice to your post. I've used the John Daley argument myself, but let's add Lee Trevino and Jack Nichlos too. Seriously, look at these guys and tell me WTF is "athletic" about these dipshits? How bout that big fat fuck that was living in his car and Best Buy stepped up to help him? Good golfers......sure....... greatest athletes of the day let alone a fucking decade??? Give me a fucking break! >:( I'll bet 10-20% of these fucking douchebags have nothing in their background that most would consider remotely impressive athletically, and I bet the same percent were either total outcasts or voted "most outstanding band member" in high school.
Golf is a game..... not a sport. If I hit a stone down the road with a branch/ or by kicking it, and get it to the next dead tree in the shortest amount of swings/kicks does that mean I'm a great athlete? What's next? Someone who has a knack for tiddly-winks or marbles being voted number one athlete? Wow.....the training regimine must be insane for these guys :P
QFT
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No golfer, including Tiger Woods, is an athlete.
Kobe Bryant is an athlete.
Kobe Bryant is the athlete of the decade
6 NBA Finals appearances
4 titles including 3 in a row
Regular season MVP
Finals MVP
All NBA
All Defense team
All Star MVP
81 point game
20 points in the first quarter last night with a broken finger on his shooting hand
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Golf isn't a sport!? Hmm. That explains why I haven't walked a course in years.
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A golfer is an athlete? I suppose a professional pool player is then as well.
x2
same goes for curling, polo and table tennis
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Manny Pacquiao , Roger Federer or Ussain Bolt
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Golf requires physical performance, concentration, course management and hand-coordination. It's a sport.
Bodybuilding competitions are essentially pageants.
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Golf requires physical performance, concentration, course management and hand-coordination. It's a sport.
Bodybuilding competitions are essentially pageants.
Tying rebar requires physical performance,concentration,,jobsite management and hand coordination.
It's a sport.
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No golfer, including Tiger Woods, is an athlete.
Kobe Bryant is an athlete.
Kobe Bryant is the athlete of the decade
6 NBA Finals appearances
4 titles including 3 in a row
Regular season MVP
Finals MVP
All NBA
All Defense team
All Star MVP
81 point game
20 points in the first quarter last night with a broken finger on his shooting hand
Makes a good case, as those are some really impressive stats
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What about Jay Cutler and Ronnie Coleman ?
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Tying rebar requires physical performance,concentration,,jobsite management and hand coordination.
It's a sport.
So does sweeping the floor. What's your point?
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So does sweeping the floor. What's your point?
Doc, that is essential for a Olympic sport called "Curling".
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Doc, that is essential for a Olympic sport called "Curling".
Now that's a sport!!
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Golf requires physical performance, concentration, course management and hand-coordination. It's a sport.
Bodybuilding competitions are essentially pageants.
Pool requires physical performance too. You need to use your shoulders and hands to control the cue.
Furthermore, you need concentration, table management and hand-eye coordination.
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Pool requires physical performance too. You need to use your shoulders and hands to control the cue.
Furthermore, you need concentration, table management and hand-eye coordination.
All true but there really isn't any athletic aspect beyond fatigue. I'd like to believe someone in decent shape is less affected by fatigue.
Fat as Daly was, he still perfectly transmitted power to the ball with driver and long irons. It was the smaller moves like putting he generally sucked at. He was entertaining to watch but I don't really believe brute force would conquer most well designed courses. If that weren't true, long drive champions would win all the time. :)
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All true but there really isn't any athletic aspect beyond fatigue. I'd like to believe someone in decent shape is less affected by fatigue.
Fat as Daly was, he still perfectly transmitted power to the ball with driver and long irons. It was the smaller moves like putting he generally sucked at. He was entertaining to watch but I don't really believe brute force would conquer most well designed courses. If that weren't true, long drive champions would win all the time. :)
Idrise Ward-El (bber) said that his huge chest would get in the way when he plays golf. So a huge chest for large move of a swing gets in the way, and a big gut gets in the way of smaller moves like putting
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All true but there really isn't any athletic aspect beyond fatigue. I'd like to believe someone in decent shape is less affected by fatigue.
Fat as Daly was, he still perfectly transmitted power to the ball with driver and long irons. It was the smaller moves like putting he generally sucked at. He was entertaining to watch but I don't really believe brute force would conquer most well designed courses. If that weren't true, long drive champions would win all the time. :)
Daly was actually a pretty good putter.
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Brett Favre!
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Daly was actually a pretty good putter.
Maybe we watched different tournaments, LOL! I can only remember one time he putted great.
To me he was more or less an average putter who occasionally got close enough to score.
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How come Coleman wasnt mentioned ???
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How come Coleman wasnt mentioned ???
The general population isn't very much into striated glutes.
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The general population isn't very much into striated glutes.
I guess JJ din't get a vote :(
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I guess JJ din't get a vote :(
I wrote "general" not gay. :)
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Fedor or branch warren, one of these will win
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How about we do this for each "sport" (don't care whether you think golf is a sport or not).
My votes:
Hockey on top there asscan: That's the hardest question out there since alot of the young stars started in the mid 2000s
Baseball: Pujols
Basketball: Kobe
Football: This one's hard; Manning?
Soccer: Don't know soccer well; Ronaldo (BRA)?
Golf: Tiger no contest
Bowling: Norm Duke
Tennis: Federer for men no contest; not sure about women, seems like there's a lot more parity
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WHATEVER...Athlete of the year
DEREK JETER
Jeter maintains an apartment in Manhattan's Trump World Tower and homes in Marlboro, New Jersey, Greenwood Lake, New York[65] and the Davis Islands neighborhood of Tampa, Florida.[66]
Jeter's personal life has been a frequent topic in gossip columns and celebrity magazines since his rookie year in 1996. Jeter had a well publicized relationship with pop diva Mariah Carey from 1997 to 1998.[67] Jeter also dated former Miss Universe Lara Dutta,[68] singer Joy Enriquez[69] and actress Jordana Brewster.[70] He is rumored to have dated actresses Scarlett Johansson,[67] Gabrielle Union,[71] and Jessica Alba.[72] Rumors also circulated that he was dating supermodel Tyra Banks after the two were spotted sitting next to each other at a New York Knicks game, but it turned out to be a coincidence; Jeter was attending the game with his father.[73] Jeter also had an on-and-off relationship with television personality Vanessa Minillo from late 2003 until early 2006.[74] From November 2006 to January 2007, Jeter was romantically involved with actress Jessica Biel.[75][76][77] Jeter has recently been connected to Friday Night Lights actress Minka Kelly.[78]
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Only Gretzky and Jordan were as dominant recently.
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Only Gretzky and Jordan were as dominant recently.
Yeah and Tiger and Roger weren't? Yeah, ok.
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Yeah and Tiger and Roger weren't? Yeah, ok.
what about Shaq? and Vince Goodrum?
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WHATEVER...Athlete of the year
DEREK JETER
Jeter maintains an apartment in Manhattan's Trump World Tower and homes in Marlboro, New Jersey, Greenwood Lake, New York[65] and the Davis Islands neighborhood of Tampa, Florida.[66]
Jeter's personal life has been a frequent topic in gossip columns and celebrity magazines since his rookie year in 1996. Jeter had a well publicized relationship with pop diva Mariah Carey from 1997 to 1998.[67] Jeter also dated former Miss Universe Lara Dutta,[68] singer Joy Enriquez[69] and actress Jordana Brewster.[70] He is rumored to have dated actresses Scarlett Johansson,[67] Gabrielle Union,[71] and Jessica Alba.[72] Rumors also circulated that he was dating supermodel Tyra Banks after the two were spotted sitting next to each other at a New York Knicks game, but it turned out to be a coincidence; Jeter was attending the game with his father.[73] Jeter also had an on-and-off relationship with television personality Vanessa Minillo from late 2003 until early 2006.[74] From November 2006 to January 2007, Jeter was romantically involved with actress Jessica Biel.[75][76][77] Jeter has recently been connected to Friday Night Lights actress Minka Kelly.[78]
Those were all hired "beards" for Jeter...Pretty much common knowledge in NYC...ONe of those girls mentioned above dated a guy and the guy asked her about Jeter...And she said something along the lines of he has been in assless chaps since high school...
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(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tmz.com/media/2009/12/1217_tiger_wood_splash.jpg)
Gloria Allred -- the civil rights lawyer who has been a force of nature for decades -- has now been officially immortalized ... as a porn star in a Tiger Woods XXX video.
Tiger's Wood
The adult-activity Allred-alike will make her debut in a film entitled, "Tiger's Wood."
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Those were all hired "beards" for Jeter...Pretty much common knowledge in NYC...ONe of those girls mentioned above dated a guy and the guy asked her about Jeter...And she said something along the lines of he has been in assless chaps since high school...
hey buddy >:(
WTF are you trying to imply....
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it's hard to equate Golf with athletics as mentioned before. You might as well vote for Jimmy Johnshon, who's won 4 STRAIGHT Cups. No one in any sport has won more "championships" in a row like that.
Kobe as mentioned earlier has had 3 straight championships and 4 straight appearances.
And who's to say Michael Phelps doesn't deserve some props, since he's dominated 2 straight Olympics.
All that said, I'd pick Kobe - FOR A DECADE.
I don't think Roger Fed was even come into form until 2003 - 2004.
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No one has dominated their sport to the extent Tiger Woods has in the past ten years.
Gretzky was essentially setting a new record with each score for years.
Jordan was still better, IMO, because he made everyone around him play better.
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How about Goodrum. No one has dominated taking last place in every show entered as he has. No matter how many contestants there are he continuing takes last place. That is some kind of record. But then of course he is not an athlete nor a bodybuilder
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How about Goodrum. No one has dominated taking last place in every show entered as he has. No matter how many contestants there are he continuing takes last place. That is some kind of record. But then of course he is not an athlete nor a bodybuilder
He also starts new business ventures with amazing regularity.
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How about Goodrum. No one has dominated taking last place in every show entered as he has. No matter how many contestants there are he continuing takes last place. That is some kind of record. But then of course he is not an athlete nor a bodybuilder
:D there should be an award for his accomplishments
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I'd say federer
2000-2010 he dominated tennis
And he is an athlete..christ a golfer is refered to as an athlete hahahaha
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And he is an athlete..christ a golfer is refered to as an athlete hahahaha
This is an age old debate
my oppinion is that tennis is more athletic while golf is technically more difficult
I understood both points of view from Elsworth Vines...former tennis world No 1 turned top golfer
he argued that the main difference is : in tennis , the surfaces vary and court dimensions remain constant ...in golf, ground dimensions vary. So they both have their particularities
What I found out from my experience playing professional tennis is that you have to constantly adapt your game and equipment ( fine tunning the racquets ) to the conditions : athmosperic conditions, surface type, ball type ( pressure )
I never played golf ut those who did both professionally found them equally challenging
I personally do not cosider colf athletic by any means ( unless you consider strolling to be some type of challenge )
(http://www.ingolfwetrust.com/golf-central/content/binary/041107vines.jpg)
scott draper did both as well
(http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2004/12/21/drapertennisgolf.jpg)
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Tennis vs Golf
Which Sport is Tougher?
When Tiger Woods recently said Roger Federer "is probably the best athlete on the planet," I began to believe tennis finally got the respect it deserved − from a golfer. Tennis had been dismissed in America as a "sissy sport" for its first 75 years, even by golfers such as President Dwight D. Eisenhower. After tennis maven Ted Tinling, a lieutenant colonel in the Royal Army Intelligence Corps in 1943, asked permission to stage an exhibition match for the Red Cross in Algiers, Gen. Eisenhower fired back a terse memo: "No, this is a man's war and tennis is a woman's game." Never mind that tennis, unlike golf, had by then diverged from its effete, country club origins and become a grueling, dynamic sport dominated by public parks players like Ellsworth Vines, Don Budge and Bobby Riggs.
Since that period tennis champions Pancho Gonzalez, Rod Laver, Bjorn Borg, John McEnroe, Pete Sampras, Martina Navratilova, Billie Jean King, Steffi Graf, Justine Henin and Serena Williams have ranked among the world's elite athletes. In France at the 1979 European Superstars competition, a medley of athletic events staged as a television program, Borg beat an Olympic medal-winning hurdler, while capturing six of the eight events. In 2002 Federer, Sweden's Thomas Johansson and several other ATP players took on a National Hockey League team during the Canadian Open in Toronto and lost only 7-5. "Their anticipation was unreal," said Nick Kypreos, the leading scorer in the game and one of the extremely impressed hockey players.
When the incomparable Michael Jordan was asked which female athlete he most admired, he tellingly replied, "Tennis is a lot like basketball in physical terms, and Chris Evert did everything with class." As for golf, Jordan, a recreational player himself, contended, "You golfers may make a lot of money, but you're a long way from being athletes."
The tennis vs. golf debate was renewed when the Feb. 5, 2007 Sports Illustrated ran a point-counterpoint piece titled: "Kings of the Mountain − Roger Federer and Tiger Woods are good pals who won't argue about who's the most dominant athlete around. But Two SI writers will." The golf advocate maintained Woods amassed a superior record against much stouter competition and thus is "the best athlete of his generation." His tennis counterpart pointed out that Federer won 10 of the last 15 Grand Slam events and displays his genius in a game that demands a full range of physical skills. The tennis proponent also slipped in this zinger: "Once in a while, you'll actually hear people wonder if golf is a sport."
People should wonder. If you can't make a case that golf actually is a bona-fide sport requiring true athleticism rather than merely a competition like croquet, then there is no debate. After all, you wouldn't compare the preeminent yachtsmen or bowlers with the greatest football or baseball players. To prove this self-evident assertion, let's analyze the criteria for athleticism and find out how tennis and golf compare to each other.
Physical Fitness — Tennis players must have exceptional cardiovascular fitness or face severe consequences when competing against opponents who do. A 1986 survey of 126 men touring pros revealed an extremely low average body-fat percentage of 6.4. That was better than the measurements of pro basketball players (8.9 percent), pro baseball players (12.6 percent), and pro football linemen (15.6 percent). With both shot and foot speed faster today, there is every reason to believe men tennis players are even fitter. And the women, especially the supremely dedicated Russians, appear leaner and better-conditioned than ever.
What about golfers? Veteran golf pro Bob Goalby once conceded: "Golfers aren't athletes. A golfer doesn't have to be in shape to do anything but hit a golf ball. I think an athlete should be able to run. The pro golfer is not generally in great physical shape."
Jack Nicklaus, whose 18 major titles make him arguably the greatest golfer in history, looked as much as 25 pounds overweight during his prime. John Daly, the 1991 PGA and 1995 British Open champion, is obese as was Craig "The Walrus" Stadler, who at 5'10" and 250 pounds, still earned more than $10 million. Chris Patton, even fatter at 6'1" and 300 pounds, captured the 1989 U.S. Amateur title. Billy Casper and Lee Trevino also lost the battle of the bulge but won major titles. At the 2007 U.S. Open Championship, Angel Cabrera, a beer-bellied, cigarette-smoking Argentine, triumphed. Massive Meg Mallon, who notched 18 career victories, including two U.S. Women's Open titles, and ranks No. 5 on the career money list, proves that a lean and sleek body isn't required to walk, stroke and win in golf. If these hefty hitters ever tried to play pro tennis, they'd become exhausted, ill or injured after a few games.
Hand-Eye and Foot-Eye Coordination — World-class tennis requires superb hand-eye coordination to hit a moving ball with varying amounts of oncoming speed and spin that is further affected by other variables such as the wind and at times unpredictable bounces on grass and clay courts. Returning a bullet serve of more than 120 miles per hour is nearly as challenging as hitting a Major League baseball pitch − often called the most difficult thing to do in sports − and most tennis shots are hit on the run or the dead run. Arthur Ashe, in his 1981 book, Off the Court, stressed, "Foot-and-eye coordination is more important in tennis than hand-eye coordination…. It's the great feet that win Grand Slam titles." Contrast these great demands with pro golf, where a stationary person only has to swing at a stationary object about 70 times over five hours.
Acceleration and Speed — If you can't get to the ball, you can't hit it. Every tennis champion − except for Lindsay Davenport, a phenomenal striker of the ball − has displayed excellent court coverage. "The first two steps taken toward a tennis ball usually determine whether or not the ball will be reached, and therefore instantaneous speed, or explosiveness, is much more important in tennis than either aerobic or anaerobic power," pointed out Dr. Robert Arnot and Charles Gaines in their 1984 book, SportSelection. Borg, Michael Chang, Lleyton Hewitt, Rafael Nadal, Federer, Graf, Navratilova and Henin possess not only extraordinary speed and acceleration but also the related movement skills of agility, recovery and leaping. None of these intrinsic athletic abilities are needed in golf. David Duval, the world's No. 1 golfer in 1999, admitted, "I would like to think of myself as an athlete first, but I don't want to do a disservice to the real ones."
In 1996 former NBA standout John Lucas, a college tennis All-American and later a World TeamTennis player, told Tennis magazine that Chang could have been "an unbelievable defensive guard in basketball." Lucas rated Jordan, David Thompson, Dennis Rodman, McEnroe and Jimmy Connors as the top five athletes he ever saw, coached or competed against, saying "They all are absolutely in the same class."
Reflexes and Touch — Lightning-fast hand reflexes are required for skillful volleying, especially in net duels involving all four players in doubles. "A good doubles match can be one of the fastest and most exciting of all sports events," all-time doubles great John Newcombe told World Tennis magazine in 1977. Hand speed, split-second reactions, and the concomitant quick decision-making of any kind are never needed in golf.
Subtle touch is another valuable athletic ability involving hands, and gifted players produce dazzling drop shots, drop volleys and lob volleys. Touch does play a key role in golf when putting and hitting irons to the greens, but, importantly, it's never achieved against a fast-moving ball and on the run.
Strength and Stamina — Physical strength counts for a lot on every shot in tennis, especially serves and smashes, except for lobs and finesse shots. Many players pump iron to gain the necessary strength to generate power and handle opponents' power. While super-strong Andy Roddick holds the fastest-serve record with an incredible 155-mph rocket, women also have embraced strength as never before. In 2004, 151 women whacked serves of 100 mph or more, and 58 blasted serves of 110 mph or more. The sheer power of tennis today impresses even casual followers. When an aide introduced Federer to Pope Benedict XVI last year, the pontiff said, "Tennis is a powerful sport."
Andre Agassi, who packed 174 pounds on his muscular 5'11" frame, was renowned for a brutal training regimen devised by conditioning coach Gil Reyes. Agassi could bench press an amazing 315 pounds. Some golfers, such as Tiger Woods, at least appear in tip-top shape, and the driving distance on the pro golf tours has steadily increased to the point where some players regularly drive more than 300 yards.
However, imagine sprinting for and pounding balls for three, four or even five hours and broiling under a 90-degree sun without any substitutes or halftimes, and you get some sense of how much stamina tennis requires. That tennis often becomes a "survival of the fittest" test (a record eight men retired due to illness and injury at the 2006 French Open) recently prompted the ATP Tour to try to abolish best-of-five-set finals at Masters Series tournaments.
Whether "golf is a good walk spoiled," as Mark Twain quipped, is debatable. What's not debatable is that walking 18 holes with prolonged rest breaks over five hours is minimal exercise. And consider this: a golf swing takes 1 to 1.5 seconds, and the actual motion in an entire round totals 1.5 minutes. No wonder the Journal of New England Medicine magazine in 2001 reported that golf has "the exercise co-efficient of gardening." Ironically, spectators who follow a particular foursome for a round wind up with as much exercise as their favorite players.
Mastering Technique — Nicklaus, a tennis lover who has three grass courts and a clay court at his North Palm Beach, Florida, estate, once acknowledged that golf is easier because you have basically only one swing, aside from putting. In sharp contrast, tennis ranks as one of the most difficult sports to learn and master because of its many different swings.
A typical young player today has a semi-Western topspin forehand and changes his grip and swing for a two-handed backhand and changes it again to a Continental grip to hit serves and volleys, which require completely different technique. Supplementary shots such as smashes, lobs, and drop shots entail more muscle memory. Several variations on all these shots, such as service returns, passing shots, kick serves, approach shots, drop volleys, etc., are required for a complete, all-court game. Correct stroke technique still won't guarantee topnotch shots. "By far the greatest majority of errors originate through incorrect footwork," wrote Joy and Tony Mottram in Modern Lawn Tennis.
Golf pros, though, must master technique for 14 different clubs with tiny "sweet spots" to control small balls on an endlessly diverse array of challenging fairways, fiendish roughs, unforgiving sand traps, and tricky greens in changing weather conditions. "A tennis ball is on the strings for 4 milliseconds. A golf ball is on the club face for one half of a millisecond," pointed out Vic Braden, a noted sports science researcher and author of several tennis books, in Inside Tennis magazine in 1987. "We brought some of the best golfers to our center, like Jack Nicklaus and Tom Watson, and shot them at 22,000 frames per second. We found that the slightest, barely visible turn of the club face would have dramatic effects on the golf ball. In tennis, you have about a 19-degree range in which you can hit a ball and at least keep it in the court. But in golf, less than one degree of error means that you're in the trees."
The Mental Game — Golfers may concede tennis is more athletic and physical, but they'll passionately maintain that nothing in sports is more terrifying than standing over a three-foot putt with $100,000, or even a $20 hacker's bet, on the line. But is golf a tough sport mentally? Tougher than tennis?
Let's start with the various arguments about tournament rules and formats. Golfers aver that they have no chance for redemption following a disastrous shot into a pond, while tennis
players repeatedly take second serve "mulligans," no matter how atrocious their first serves. Imagine the almost unbearable pressure, they insist, if you know that just one errant shot can turn what looked like an easy par-5 hole into a nightmarish quadruple bogie 9 that ruins your round and perhaps even your entire tournament. Tennis aficionados reply that, except for a first serve fault, every other bad shot during a vital game or on a big point − especially match point, set point or game point − can prove extremely costly. And tennis' clever scoring system, featuring deuce, ad-in and ad-out, ensures plenty of high-pressure, high-stakes points throughout the match.
Although golfers must make the cut, which the elite do almost all the time, a mediocre round allows them to muddle on. However, mediocrity often spells defeat and thus elimination in any round on the extremely talent-deep ATP and WTA Tours where upsets abound. If players don't bring their A games, they could easily lose in an hour or two. When that happens, tennis players often do something relaxing, like golf.
Ah, but golfers counter that nothing could be more treacherous than trying to conquer not only a devilish course, but also 100 players. Under that absurd numbers criterion, the Boston Marathon with 20,000 runners (albeit all but a few are distant finishers) would top the "toughest competition" category. Sure, Tiger and Phil and Annika and Karrie must score better than all the other golfers, but they rarely face them directly.
"I may go out and shoot a 66. But, it doesn't prevent you from going out and shooting a 65," rightly asserts Charlie Pasarell, the Indian Wells tournament director and No. 1-ranked American in 1967, in the Los Angeles Times. "In fact, you may not even know that I've shot a 66. You never have that real, direct head-on competition. However, in tennis, if I've hit a good tennis shot against you, I've probably put you in a defensive mode, and chances are, you will not hit a good shot but will probably hit a weaker shot.
"Hogan never really beats Snead, Nicklaus doesn't beat Palmer," argues Pasarell. "But, in tennis, Lendl beats McEnroe. Laver beats the world."
Agreeing with that analysis, Fuzzy Zoeller, the 1979 Masters and 1984 U.S. Open champion, said: "To me, tennis is the most impressive sport. In golf, you hit your best shot and you can brag about it. In tennis, you hit your best shot and some little [expletive deleted] is on the other side hitting it back to you."
Other golfers fire back that on occasion their game also showcases head-to-head competition: match play. But there's something embarrassing worth mentioning about that. When the going gets tough, their "Tiger" performs more like a pussycat. At the PGA's Match-Play Championships − where 64 leading players compete in a single-elimination draw − Tiger has won only twice in eight tries and hasn't even reached the quarterfinals during the last three years. Although Tiger can brag about his 10-1 PGA Tour record in tournament playoffs, he owns a dismal 10-13-2 career match play record in the prestigious Ryder Cup.
In contrast, The Great Ones in tennis shrug off and even thrive on mano a mano pressure. Federer has won nine of his first 10 Grand Slam finals, while Sampras captured 14 of 18 major finals during his incomparable career. The Swiss superstar also boasts an astounding, and probably unbreakable, record of 24 straight victories in tournaments finals, doubling the previous record of 12 shared by Borg and McEnroe. Handling the terrific pressure from hyper-patriotic Germans, Boris Becker racked up a sensational 38-3 singles record in Davis Cup, while Navratilova was a perfect 15-0 and Evert 40-2 in Fed Cup singles. When it matters most, tennis champions often show poise, grit and courage to prevail against their toughest rivals.
Finally, Dr. James E. Loehr, the author of 14 books including Mental Toughness Training for Sports, surveyed 43 sports in 1989, to measure their physical/mental/emotional demand factors. Loehr used 25 criteria, such as aerobic demands, real physical opponent, no coaching, multiple competitors in a single day, no clock, one-on-one competition, opportunities for trash talking and gamesmanship, ranking system (local, regional, national), no time-outs/no substitutions, and fierce personal rivalries. Tennis placed an impressive No. 2 with 101 points, considerably ahead of golf which had 85 points.
Sports Switchers — No world-class golfer has ever taken up tennis and developed into a world-class player. Nor come even close to that. Of course, since leading golfers can often play their leisurely pastime at a relatively high level into their 40s or even 50s (Nicklaus finished an amazing 6th at the 1998 Masters at age 58), they have little incentive to try more demanding sports. Still, it's noteworthy that a few former tennis stars and lesser lights have excelled, and usually rather quickly, at golf.
Ellsworth Vines, the most successful tennis/golfer, won the 1931 and '32 U.S. Championships and 1932 Wimbledon and retired from competitive tennis in 1939 and became a golf pro. Vines twice finished in the top 10 in annual money earnings during the era of Byron Nelson, Ben Hogan and Sam Snead. The lanky Southern Californian reached the semifinals of the 1951 PGA Championship and once beat the legendary Hogan in a playoff.
Mary K. Browne, an American who collected 13 Grand Slam titles from 1912 to 1926, also
transferred her athletic talent to golf. In one of the most remarkable feats in women's sports history, Browne lost in the 1924 U.S. semifinal to Helen Wills in three sets, and three weeks later she upset the renowned Glenna Collett Vare to make the U.S. Women's Golf Championships final.
Althea Gibson, who broke the color barrier in tennis and won two Wimbledons, two U.S. and a French crown in the late 1950s, belatedly turned to golf in her 30s and became the first black woman on the LPGA tour. She played in 171 tournaments from 1963 to 1977 without winning a title, though she did set a course-record 68 in 1966 at Pleasant Valley in Sutton, Massachusetts.
"Time ran out on her," Kathy Whitworth, the grande dame of women's golf champions, told the Boston Sunday Globe in 2001. "There's no question she would have been one of the greats otherwise. Absolutely no question."
Scott Draper, a gifted Australian serve-volleyer with wins over Agassi, Jim Courier, Becker (on grass) and Patrick Rafter (on grass), retired from pro tennis in 2005. Bulletin: this February Draper, 32, shot a final-round 7-under-par 65 to capture the New South Wales PGA Championship by one stroke for his first pro golf victory. It moves past the improbable to near the impossible to believe that a 32-year-old, former top 50-ranked golf pro could trade his clubs for a racket and two years later win an equivalent event on the pro tennis tour.
Could Fred Couples beat Sampras? Get a set or even a couple games off him? It's inconceivable. The modest Sampras likes to downplay his golf prowess, but he won a driving contest at a pro-celebrity tournament in 1997 with a 332-yard monster drive. When tour standout Couples golfed with "Pistol Pete," an 8-handicap golfer in 1999, the tennis guy won. "He played better than I did," confided Couples.
Golf is obviously not on an athletic par with tennis. But, that settled, why should it even matter to golf and tennis lovers? As the famous Latin maxim advises: "De gustibus non est disputandum" − "There is no disputing about tastes."
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As for golf, Jordan, a recreational player himself, contended, "You golfers may make a lot of money, but you're a long way from being athletes."
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Scott Draper, a gifted Australian serve-volleyer with wins over Agassi, Jim Courier, Becker (on grass) and Patrick Rafter (on grass), retired from pro tennis in 2005. Bulletin: this February Draper, 32, shot a final-round 7-under-par 65 to capture the New South Wales PGA Championship by one stroke for his first pro golf victory. It moves past the improbable to near the impossible to believe that a 32-year-old, former top 50-ranked golf pro could trade his clubs for a racket and two years later win an equivalent event on the pro tennis tour.
Could Fred Couples beat Sampras? Get a set or even a couple games off him? It's inconceivable. The modest Sampras likes to downplay his golf prowess, but he won a driving contest at a pro-celebrity tournament in 1997 with a 332-yard monster drive. When tour standout Couples golfed with "Pistol Pete," an 8-handicap golfer in 1999, the tennis guy won. "He played better than I did," confided Couples.
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lets try sports that most of the world plays...
Football: Ryan Giggs 36 and still going strong. Dude's got more trophies than Hugh Hefner
Rugby: Bryan Habana
Tennis: Federer
Golf: Woods
American Football: Brady...probably would have said Vick had it not been for ahem...issues
Baseball: for yanks and cubans...I dunno, Babe Ruth
Cricket: Ricky Ponting
Track: Usain Bolt
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F1 Racing: Michael Schumacher....think its a safe bet!
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F1 Racing: Michael Schumacher....think its a safe bet!
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Racing period. Schu-Macher owns them all. Word is maybe going to Mercedes-Mclaren
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apparently the deal is very close now...would be awesome to see him back
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8420601.stm
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there only one..
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there only one..
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He's OK to..However, I can't say for certain that he's better than lebron
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He's OK to..However, I can't say for certain that he's better than lebron
shhh
keeep quiet
you obviously don'y know shit ;)
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Tennis >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Golf
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Woods is just lucky Micheal Jordan wasnt born 10 years later, Prime Michael Jordans worldwide stardom in the internet age would have been downright scary.
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LMAO ;D
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"She wants 100 percent divorce, 100 percent custody of the children, and half of everything. And she won't be changing her mind," a confidant of the Swedish stunner told the British tab[loid News of the World]. The hard-line stance stems from Woods' refusal to seek help for his twin addictions to sex and pills, the paper reported. ...
"Tiger was supposed to be working on getting better, and he hasn't done anything," said Nordegren's pal. "Elin is livid that he hasn't checked into rehab and gotten himself off his drugs. He's acting like a big baby."
Bringing out a probably, bullshit pain medication addition. And a guy addicted to pussy? WTF is wrong with Tiger..hhaha
Easy bitch, you weren't taking his rod right. Probably stingy on the pussy. Or were just flat out bad in bed.
Can you blame this pussy wrecking stud?
HALF of all assets...haha, for what. Was it you who broke your ass practicing hours a day for the past 20 years to be the best at something.
Seriously, it's a joke what women get these days. Even worse, the idiots who are bent on getting married. Being married doesn't equal.....great relationship....as displayed a few times prior to this in society.
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he fucking cheated on her with 15 different women ffs. She's been humiliated.
He's a dumb ####, period, he deserves being ripped off half everything he has for being so fucking clueless.
On a side note, what's wrong with you lately, have you been dumped by your gf? you re hating not only on steroid users but also women in every single thread.
misoginy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misogyny
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He deserves to lose half his money for being so stupid to marry her to begin with.
What exactly did she bring to the marriage besides white skin, blonde hair and blue eyes.
A millionaire marries a nanny.....HAHAHAHAHAHA
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Honestly the average guy is far more loyal than the average woman.Its not a shock that two thirds of divorces are sought by women.They say a load of shit early on in the relationship based on emotion but none of it lacks any real thought.How many women do you know with great stable friendships?Obviously tiger fucked her over in this case but scratch one back for mankind.
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Honestly the average guy is far more loyal than the average woman.Its not shock that two thirds of divorces are sought by women.They say a load of shit early on in the relationship based on emotion but none of it lacks any real thought.How many women do you know with great stable friendships?Obviously tiger fucked her over in this case but scratch one back for mankind.
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any proof?
looks like you got dumped by your wife .
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any proof?
Real world experience, surely you dont dispute this?
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Easy bitch, you weren't taking his rod right. Probably stingy on the pussy. Or were just flat out bad in bed.
Can you blame this pussy wrecking stud?
HALF of all assets...haha, for what. Was it you who broke your ass practicing hours a day for the past 20 years to be the best at something.
Seriously, it's a joke what women get these days.
I agree. But i'm thinking Tiger will have her "taken care of" by some "friends".
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he fucking cheated on her with 15 different women ffs. She's been humiliated.
He's a dumb ####, period, he deserves being ripped off half everything he has for being so fucking clueless.
On a side note, what's wrong with you lately, have you been dumped by your gf? you re hating not only on steroid users but also women in every single thread.
misoginy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misogyny
Is it really 15 now?
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he fucking cheated on her with 15 different women ffs. She's been humiliated.
He's a dumb ####, period, he deserves being ripped off half everything he has for being so fucking clueless.
On a side note, what's wrong with you lately, have you been dumped by your gf? you re hating not only on steroid users but also women in every single thread.
misoginy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misogyny
Are you gay or female?
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he fucking cheated on her with 15 different women ffs. She's been humiliated.
He's a dumb ####, period, he deserves being ripped off half everything he has for being so fucking clueless.
On a side note, what's wrong with you lately, have you been dumped by your gf? you re hating not only on steroid users but also women in every single thread.
misoginy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misogyny
Jezus....did you get sand in your vagina or something? Been watching too much oprah? She's been humiliated?? Wow...I think that is just pure shit when someone says that. If he posted pics of her snatch or maybe even posted sex pics she would be embarrassed. Because he cheated on her she is embarrassed? Grow some balls.
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he fucking cheated on her with 15 different women ffs. She's been humiliated.
He's a dumb ####, period, he deserves being ripped off half everything he has for being so fucking clueless.
On a side note, what's wrong with you lately, have you been dumped by your gf? you re hating not only on steroid users but also women in every single thread.
misoginy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misogyny
Turn in your man card
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Are you gay or female?
how's your divorce going ?
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he fucking cheated on her with 15 different women ffs. She's been humiliated.
aww boo hoo ::)
who on earth was dumb enough to think the most famous athlete in the world would have one sexual partner? i can't believe how naive some of you people are
true alpha males always have multiple partners, that's what happens when you can't leave the house without random women throwing themselves at you, sooner or later 1 (or 15) are going to turn you on, especially when your gold digger wife decides to quit having sex with you
if he was dumb about anything he never should've gotten married, but being married increases his endorsements by being the "wholesome family guy"
and no she does not deserve half of his assets, she should get the amount she signed for in the prenup
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how's your divorce going ?
Never stupid enough to marry, how was your manicure and anus bleaching?
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I hope she gets 99% of his assets.
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I hope she gets 99% of his assets.
jealous as the day is long
typical "regular guy" that's happy to see a man at the top fall
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not all women are cash hungry whores
many are active in politics and passionate about foreign policy
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jealous as the day is long
typical "regular guy" that's happy to see a man at the top fall
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I hope she gets 100% of his assets
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He deserves to lose half his money for being so stupid to marry her to begin with.
What exactly did she bring to the marriage besides white skin, blonde hair and blue eyes.
A millionaire marrys a nanny.....HAHAHAHAHAHA
Agreed
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HAhahaha. stupid darkie deserves everything he's getting, he cheated on a wife that hot with 15 bitches, most of which were nasty ass $8 an hour waitresses, LOL
I predicted it 2 weeks ago.. she's going in for the kill.
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aww boo hoo ::)
if he was dumb about anything he never should've gotten married, but being married increases his endorsements by being the "wholesome family guy"
So you're saying she did contribute to his fortune ;)
The laws on divorce are fucked towards the man, Tiger knew the laws, he took the risk.
Look at someone like George Clooney, i don't think he's ever married since he became rich/famous. Or Brad Pitt, marries someone with money.
Unless some men take a stand it won't get any better.
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croatch has small man syndrome
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So you're saying she did contribute to his fortune ;)
The laws on divorce are fucked towards the man, Tiger knew the laws, he took the risk.
Look at someone like George Clooney, i don't think he's ever married since he became rich/famous. Or Brad Pitt, marries someone with money.
Unless some men take a stand it won't get any better.
rich and famous men are not marriage material
speaking of brad pitt he looks miserable, all of those adopted kids are taking it's toll
soon he will remember he's brad pitt and will hit the road
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not all women are cash hungry whores
many are active in politics and passionate about foreign policy
haha great post bro
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Honestly the average guy is far more loyal than the average woman.Its not a shock that two thirds of divorces are sought by women.They say a load of shit early on in the relationship based on emotion but none of it lacks any real thought.How many women do you know with great stable friendships?Obviously tiger fucked her over in this case but scratch one back for mankind.
i agree i have no shame admitting that women have played me all the times
but when i attain epic leans its a different story
women will treat you like shit to make you bend over backwards to please them if you arent a total chick magnet with epic leans, this is why i plan on focusing on getting in shape
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i agree i have no shame admitting that women have played me all the times
but when i attain epic leans its a different story
women will treat you like shit to make you bend over backwards to please them if you arent a total chick magnet with epic leans, this is why i plan on focusing on getting in shape
Women are based on emotions and love cash = when emotions get out of control most times it turns into cash
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She deserves EVERY penny.
For what exactly?
Last time I had an anatomy class they said all women have vaginas.
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Golf? Athlete?
my sentiments exactly.
if that is the case then the world darts champ should be in the running as he's won more pro tournies than Tiger has...
and for that matter how can someone win say, every other time, be the greatest?..what about phelps and bolt?, and other undefeated athletes?..
this is crack.
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Haterade must be on sale.
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Haterade must be on sale.
3 (32)oz bottles fr 2.22 ;D
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He's OK to..However, I can't say for certain that he's better than lebron
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3 (32)oz bottles fr 2.22 ;D
If Haterade grew muscle we'd have some big motherfvckers on this site.
No one even sneaks on Woods' level of dominance in their sport.
Even if someone did want to nominate Kobe do you really think they'd vote an rapist athlete of the decade?