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Title: Republicans try to block military spending...
Post by: kcballer on December 18, 2009, 01:49:12 PM
Only 3 voted for it...could they be any more petty at this point? And the republican supporters please your thoughts on this because it seems the GOP would rather the American military be denied funding to make a political point. 

Senate Republicans failed early Friday in their bid to filibuster a massive Pentagon bill that funds the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, an unusual move designed to delay President Obama's health-care legislation.

Republicans have said their goal is to delay the bill and force Senate Democrats to go home and face their constituents, hoping for some supporters of the measure to return after New Year's too fearful to back the legislation.

Republicans have provided the backbone of support for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and many have praised Obama's troop increase in Afghanistan. When the House considered the same legislation Wednesday, 164 of the 175 Republicans present voted for it, so the Senate GOP plan to oppose defense spending Friday morning put them in an unusual position.

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) cited the roughly 1,800 earmarks in the bill worth $4.2 billion in explaining his opposition, but most others were blunt in their rational for opposing the military legislation.

"I don't want health care," Sen. Sam Brownback (R-Kan.) said Thursday evening.

Taking the floor as the new day's session began just past midnight, Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-Texas) laid out what appeared to be a case to filibuster the defense bill. "The bill that is before us is not what is driving, actually, the timing of this vote at 12:15 in the morning on Friday. I think that what is driving it is health care," Hutchison said.

An hour later, Hutchison joined Maine Sens. Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe as the only Republican votes for the defense bill. But their support came only after waiting for all 60 members of the Democratic caucus to cast their "aye" votes, hitting the 60-vote threshold and making the GOP votes moot.

Because of the narrow timeline on health care, Democrats decided to schedule votes on the defense spending bill shortly after 1 a.m. so that, under parliamentary rules, that legislation can be finished by breakfast-time Saturday. That is a preemptive move to allow extra floor time for other potential delay tactics by Republicans on health care.

Please note i have only cut and paste certain paragraphs.  I think we are all aware of the health care bill which is once again covered in this article.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/18/AR2009121800241.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/18/AR2009121800241.html)
Title: Re: Republicans try to block military spending...
Post by: 240 is Back on December 18, 2009, 02:01:48 PM
reid says the bill is gonna pass on christmas eve.

best news cycle of the year (for not getting a lot of attention on an issue, and pushing it thru when everyone is rushed to go home), right there!
Title: Re: Republicans try to block military spending...
Post by: chadstallion on December 18, 2009, 02:02:49 PM
new bumper sticker;  GOP soft on American Security!
Title: Re: Republicans try to block military spending...
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 18, 2009, 02:05:35 PM
reid says the bill is gonna pass on christmas eve.

best news cycle of the year (for not getting a lot of attention on an issue, and pushing it thru when everyone is rushed to go home), right there!

Great KC - no wonder this country is screwed beyond recognotition. 

This health bill is a disaster of historical measure and they better have room in the jail for me since I dont plan on complying. 
Title: Re: Republicans try to block military spending...
Post by: kcballer on December 18, 2009, 02:07:20 PM
Great KC - no wonder this country is screwed beyond recognotition. 

This health bill is a disaster of historical measure and they better have room in the jail for me since I dont plan on complying. 

I didn't post that 333.  You quoted 240.  I hope the current healthcare bill is not voted in.  I've voiced that yesterday. 
Title: Re: Republicans try to block military spending...
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 18, 2009, 02:10:02 PM
Washington political idiots......and this isn't any different than what the dems would do/tried to get their agenda.  Neither party cares one bit about the citizens....it's all a power grab and ploy to stay there.
Title: Re: Republicans try to block military spending...
Post by: BM OUT on December 18, 2009, 02:20:36 PM
This bill was full of earmarks and more democrat slush fund shit.Typical dems.Load up a bill with a bunch of crap and ram it through.2010 cant get here quick enough.
Title: Re: Republicans try to block military spending...
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 18, 2009, 03:16:21 PM
Denied funding?  As if the military budget directly affects boots on the ground anyways.  You think the defense spending trickles down to better equipment, better food, better support for the troops?  LMAO!  Yeah right!  The US military is no different than a corporation.  The low men on the totem pole I.e. the suckers at the bottom in this case the combat soldiers doing the real fighting get screwed. 
Title: Re: Republicans try to block military spending...
Post by: 24KT on December 18, 2009, 09:03:09 PM
Great KC - no wonder this country is screwed beyond recognotition. 

This health bill is a disaster of historical measure and they better have room in the jail for me since I dont plan on complying. 

I wouldn't worry too much about the health police coming after you 33386.
They'll toss your ass in jail over a weapons infraction, or going postal, or uttering verboten threats against the POTUS long before health care rolls around. HA! There's a special cell underneath the airport in Colorado waiting for your ass.
Title: Re: Republicans try to block military spending...
Post by: 240 is Back on December 19, 2009, 01:05:28 AM
I didn't say anything in support of this bill.  I pointed out if you're going to rush a vote, and get the results out with minimal exposure for voting for it - then christmas eve is ideal

AND - how many repubs (knowing they are going to lose) will just SKIP THE VOTE?  And then, you can have dem challengers in 10 and 12 sayind "My douchebag competitor didn't even bother showing up to vote for healthcare".
Title: Re: Republicans try to block military spending...
Post by: headhuntersix on December 20, 2009, 04:17:57 AM
I don't know muscles...since I'm here  and u wash dudes...I'd say my opinion on military equipment is a billion times more informed then urs. We have pretty much everything we need. We've got top of the line mine resistant vehicles...new body armor...new uniforms...boots...eye protection....oakley and ESS...both as few hundred per kit. I would like em to issue a new rifle..but that in the works. Maybe u ought to stay in ur lane....cleaning bed pans.
Title: Re: Republicans try to block military spending...
Post by: kcballer on December 21, 2009, 03:15:40 PM
I don't know muscles...since I'm here  and u wash dudes...I'd say my opinion on military equipment is a billion times more informed then urs. We have pretty much everything we need. We've got top of the line mine resistant vehicles...new body armor...new uniforms...boots...eye protection....oakley and ESS...both as few hundred per kit. I would like em to issue a new rifle..but that in the works. Maybe u ought to stay in ur lane....cleaning bed pans.

hahaha ownage beyond belief.  One cleans sh*t, the other gets sh*t done. 
Title: Re: Republicans try to block military spending...
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 21, 2009, 09:35:53 PM
I don't know muscles...since I'm here  and u wash dudes...I'd say my opinion on military equipment is a billion times more informed then urs. We have pretty much everything we need. We've got top of the line mine resistant vehicles...new body armor...new uniforms...boots...eye protection....oakley and ESS...both as few hundred per kit. I would like em to issue a new rifle..but that in the works. Maybe u ought to stay in ur lane....cleaning bed pans.

And you still can't defeat the Taliban can you fat boy? 
Title: Re: Republicans try to block military spending...
Post by: kcballer on December 22, 2009, 09:21:51 AM
Bro i don't think you are cleaning your hands properly 'cause the sh*t you wipe is seeping through your keyboard and into your posts.