Getbig.com: American Bodybuilding, Fitness and Figure
Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Marty Champions on December 18, 2009, 03:53:28 PM
-
using certain foods right now im experiementing using high volume days for high calories followed by a next day extremely low calories and still some volume (hopefully)
grapejuice seems to really help me do alot of reps on exercises along with alot of protien lets say a highish volume day is around 400-500 reps 60 percent of them squatting with no weight and the rest pushups and back work also around 5-6 beers on this day aswell as plenty of greens
next day
low calories maybe a couple sips of grapejuice and a handfull of raw greens in themorning to avoid stomach hunger pangs, a few more sips during the day if i need it, not totalling over 150 calories yet, later on after work eat more raw greens for hunger pangs maybe some low caloirie carrot juice and a greek yogurt no fat. but very low protien no protien shakes, just plenty water. the body will be much colder this day from lower metabolism
what do you guys think of this 2 day rotation, i feel epic leans will come in since i just discoverd this diet way today as it snows in nc for the first time in a year wich is another sign
snow=wons
-
What are you trying to achieve here Falcon?
-
What are you trying to achieve here Falcon?
a highest potential workload on day one for maximum metabolism stimulation = some unavoidable fat gain but certain maximum muscle stimulation
followed by a next day of fat loss and healing
-
What are you trying to achieve here Falcon?
Attention.
-
Attention.
xD
-
a highest potential workload on day one for maximum metabolism stimulation = some unavoidable fat gain but certain maximum muscle stimulation
followed by a next day of fat loss and healing
Epic leans and hoes is the motivation?
-
Epic leans and hoes is the motivation?
the only way ill get the leans is if my muscles can function at there best 4 times a week full body
3 days a week attempt full body also but alot less volume
never a day off
-
the only way ill get the leans is if my muscles can function at there best 4 times a week full body
3 days a week attempt full body also but alot less volume
never a day off
How do you have the energy and time for for all this?
-
avarage overall calories is all that counts, zig-zag gives the exact same results as avarage
-
avarage overall calories is all that counts, zig-zag gives the exact same results as avarage
X2
-
X2
if only people would realize how easy it really is
-
The only Zigzag you know are the rolling papers
-
How do you have the energy and time for for all this?
uh takes 60 seconds for 40 reps
energy comes from grapejuice and other foods
-
if only people would realize how easy it really is
i admire your ability to control very well
-
i admire your ability to control very well
I wish. I have very little will power. That's why I needed to strip off all unnecessary restrictions to get ripped.
-
all the grapejuice from yesterday rolls over into the next day cause i have a ton of energy and havent ate nearly anything , thats why grapejuice works so well u might not get all the energy from it the day you drink it but the next day youll feel it help just like beer provided your system can handle beer most meat eaters cant benefit from the massive energy you can get from it the next day on relatively low calories
say the energy from 6 beers is way more than energy from haagen dasz icecream or even protien at the same calories, the only thing that beats beer is the grapejuice
i only take the olive oil on days i feel like i need it or need to try it
-
using certain foods right now im experiementing using high volume days for high calories followed by a next day extremely low calories and still some volume (hopefully)
grapejuice seems to really help me do alot of reps on exercises along with alot of protien lets say a highish volume day is around 400-500 reps 60 percent of them squatting with no weight and the rest pushups and back work also around 5-6 beers on this day aswell as plenty of greens
next day
low calories maybe a couple sips of grapejuice and a handfull of raw greens in themorning to avoid stomach hunger pangs, a few more sips during the day if i need it, not totalling over 150 calories yet, later on after work eat more raw greens for hunger pangs maybe some low caloirie carrot juice and a greek yogurt no fat. but very low protien no protien shakes, just plenty water. the body will be much colder this day from lower metabolism
what do you guys think of this 2 day rotation, i feel epic leans will come in since i just discoverd this diet way today as it snows in nc for the first time in a year wich is another sign
snow=wons
Nothing new, cycling has been done and debated by many for decades. Do what works for your body. Easy.
-
Nothing new, cycling has been done and debated by many for decades. Do what works for your body. Easy.
Phil if you really wanna do well at the Arnold you'll listen to Johanay's words.
-
Phil if you really wanna do well at the Arnold you'll listen to Johanay's words.
Hahahaa. You think I'm Phil Heath? That is funny, but irrelevant. I didn't say he wasn't right, just that this is nothing new. The way one eats today will affect performance tomorrow, it's been that way for long before this thread.
-
using certain foods right now im experiementing using high volume days for high calories followed by a next day extremely low calories and still some volume (hopefully)
grapejuice seems to really help me do alot of reps on exercises along with alot of protien lets say a highish volume day is around 400-500 reps 60 percent of them squatting with no weight and the rest pushups and back work also around 5-6 beers on this day aswell as plenty of greens
next day
low calories maybe a couple sips of grapejuice and a handfull of raw greens in themorning to avoid stomach hunger pangs, a few more sips during the day if i need it, not totalling over 150 calories yet, later on after work eat more raw greens for hunger pangs maybe some low caloirie carrot juice and a greek yogurt no fat. but very low protien no protien shakes, just plenty water. the body will be much colder this day from lower metabolism
what do you guys think of this 2 day rotation, i feel epic leans will come in since i just discoverd this diet way today as it snows in nc for the first time in a year wich is another sign
snow=wons
lol ;D
-
Hahahaa. You think I'm Phil Heath? That is funny, but irrelevant. I didn't say he wasn't right, just that this is nothing new. The way one eats today will affect performance tomorrow, it's been that way for long before this thread.
Hi El Mariachi.
-
sometimes I increase my carbs with white bread etc in an effort to lower my protein intake. Once you monster carb up it can be hard to go back down to your regular carb intake. It really speeds up your metabolism and hunger.
-
avarage overall calories is all that counts, zig-zag gives the exact same results as avarage
I disagree with this, staying in constant caloric deficit does not give as good of results as zig zagging.
-
i just discoverd this diet way today
how many diets do you discover in a year, retard?
-
-
I disagree with this, staying in constant caloric deficit does not give as good of results as zig zagging.
Would be interested in scientific studies on body composition to support that theory.
-
Would be interested in scientific studies on body composition to support that theory.
LOL
-
LOL
I would really be interested, maybe I'm wrong. 8)
-
I agree with wavelength, his is the optimal diet to be ripped at a sub 140lbs bodyweight.
LOL
-
One snickers bar and a can of soup a day will rip you up real quick ;D
-
Would be interested in scientific studies on body composition to support that theory.
If you can come up with a better key phrase than 'zig zag diet,' then I'm sure you'll find plenty. Besides genetics, your metabolism is most heavily influenced by your caloric intake. The reason staying in caloric defecit is not ideal is because your body tends start using muscle for energy when it senses it's being starved. This is why professional athletes who's livelihood relies on them making weight while staying as strong as possible generally do some kind of more complex calorie manipulation than just staying in defecit-definitely competitive bbers too.
-
The only Zigzag you know are the rolling papers
Beat me to it ;D
-
JF's IQ is unmeasurable.
Because JF cant stand still or answer questions.
No need to measure his IQ.
-
If you can come up with a better key phrase than 'zig zag diet,' then I'm sure you'll find plenty. Besides genetics, your metabolism is most heavily influenced by your caloric intake. The reason staying in caloric defecit is not ideal is because your body tends start using muscle for energy when it senses it's being starved. This is why professional athletes who's livelihood relies on them making weight while staying as strong as possible generally do some kind of more complex calorie manipulation than just staying in defecit-definitely competitive bbers too.
Metabolism depends on total (avarage) intake, never denied that. Your body will start using muscle for energy if your avarage deficit is too high, no matter whether you're zig-zagging or not. Professional athletes use many different methods. Just because e.g. some pro BBs use a certain method doesn't mean it's more effective than any other method especially considering their diet success is mostly dependent on other factors anyway.
-
Metabolism depends on total (avarage) intake, never denied that. Your body will start using muscle for energy if your avarage deficit is too high, no matter whether you're zig-zagging or not. Professional athletes use many different methods. Just because e.g. some pro BBs use a certain method doesn't mean it's more effective than any other method especially considering their diet success is mostly dependent on other factors anyway.
Bottom line = take in more than you need you gain. Take in less than you need you lose. All numbers.
-
Once again, Johnny= dumbfuck of the year.....congrats
-
Any people over here who are zigzaggin during off season?
-
Because JF cant stand still or answer questions.
No need to measure his IQ.
u asked what?
-
Metabolism depends on total (avarage) intake, never denied that. Your body will start using muscle for energy if your avarage deficit is too high, no matter whether you're zig-zagging or not. Professional athletes use many different methods. Just because e.g. some pro BBs use a certain method doesn't mean it's more effective than any other method especially considering their diet success is mostly dependent on other factors anyway.
Seems like you just argued for me...maybe I am misunderstanding. When the deficit is too low for too long, you start eating muscle, that is why the zig zag is good-so you don't go too low for too long, whereas staying in constant deficit is doing exactly that.
-
Seems like you just argued for me...maybe I am misunderstanding. When the deficit is too low for too long, you start eating muscle, that is why the zig zag is good-so you don't go too low for too long, whereas staying in constant deficit is doing exactly that.
Maybe it is a misunderstanding, what I meant is this: Say you zig-zag where you have 5 low cal days and two high cal days, but not going to extremes. When you take the avarage of those 7 days and just eat that for all 7 days, results will be the same. At least that's my experience.
-
Maybe it is a misunderstanding, what I meant is this: Say you zig-zag where you have 5 low cal days and two high cal days, but not going to extremes. When you take the avarage of those 7 days and just eat that for all 7 days, results will be the same. At least that's my experience.
X2 = all math
-
calories=potential workload
wavelength calories= 100% ripped twink status wich is good for hoe
johhy fulcan calories = higher potential uber man ripped status
-
calories=potential workload
wavelength calories= 100% ripped twink status wich is good for hoe
johhy fulcan calories = higher potential uber man ripped status
LMAO uber man
-
LMAO uber man
i think wavlength is fine with his ultra ripped twink status, it honestly wouldnt take much diet manipulation for him to put on a good 10 pounds of muscle and be uber man, just as the same it wont take much diet manipulation for me to lose a good 10 pounds of fat
grapejuice is the ultimate thing to fill out with thats why they always reccomended creatine with grapejuice because grapejuice is the master, also can do without atleast 2 gallons of water a day since the body is mostly water it cant look full without it, its more difficult to drink the water in the winter time cause you get colder thats why you must MAKE THINK the body is in summer time by dressing warmer to let water flow through the body more readily
-
i think wavlength is fine with his ultra ripped twink status, it honestly wouldnt take much diet manipulation for him to put on a good 10 pounds of muscle and be uber man, just as the same it wont take much diet manipulation for me to lose a good 10 pounds of fat
grapejuice is the ultimate thing to fill out with thats why they always reccomended creatine with grapejuice because grapejuice is the master, also can do without atleast 2 gallons of water a day since the body is mostly water it cant look full without it, its more difficult to drink the water in the winter time cause you get colder thats why you must MAKE THINK the body is in summer time by dressing warmer to let water flow through the body more readily
Wave was ripped in the last pics I saw, so are you trying for just epic leans or mass with epic leans?...wonder why grapejuice is recommended with Creatine?
-
Wave was ripped in the last pics I saw, so are you trying for just epic leans or mass with epic leans?...wonder why grapejuice is recommended with Creatine?
grapejuice is reccomended because its always worked, too much data saying how good grapejuice is for the body
takes a few days for grapejuice to really kick in so to speak
i think ill be about 10-15 pounds heavier in muscle hypothetically speaking if we had the same height fram than wave if i can get as ripped as him. so not that much of a difference
-
i think wavlength is fine with his ultra ripped twink status, it honestly wouldnt take much diet manipulation for him to put on a good 10 pounds of muscle and be uber man, just as the same it wont take much diet manipulation for me to lose a good 10 pounds of fat
grapejuice is the ultimate thing to fill out with thats why they always reccomended creatine with grapejuice because grapejuice is the master, also can do without atleast 2 gallons of water a day since the body is mostly water it cant look full without it, its more difficult to drink the water in the winter time cause you get colder thats why you must MAKE THINK the body is in summer time by dressing warmer to let water flow through the body more readily
I was ripped because I followed a few very simple rules, like everyone can. I'm a twink because of injuries, bad genetics, and lack of drugs. That's all there is to it.
-
I was ripped because I followed a few very simple rules, like everyone can. I'm a twink because of injuries, bad genetics, and lack of drugs. That's all there is to it.
you aint really a twink man im just acting jealous
if you did a little bit more and drank some grapejuice on a daily basis youd gain 10 pounds of muscle
-
you aint really a twink man im just acting jealous
LOL, yes I am ;D
if you did a little bit more and drank some grapejuice on a daily basis youd gain 10 pounds of muscle
That's what I'm trying to do, want to be at least 10lbs heavier next year at the same condition.
-
LOL, yes I am ;D
That's what I'm trying to do, want to be at least 10lbs heavier next year at the same condition.
i just nibble on food and do a workout either non weight squats or some upper body seems to be working. its just alot of volume to upkeep though