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Title: Glenn Beck's gold-gate problem
Post by: OzmO on December 20, 2009, 07:27:33 PM
Has this been talked about already?  Don't remember.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_ts1022 (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_ts1022)

Tue Dec 8, 3:47 pm ET
Yet another controversy appears to be brewing around Fox News host Glenn Beck. Some are accusing him of a blatant conflict of interest concerning his frequent on-air promotion of an investment sold by one of his main advertisers: Gold.
For some time Beck critics have cried foul over his relationship with Goldline International, a precious metals vendor that features the TV and radio host's endorsement prominently on their website. Critics charge that Beck is guilty of misleading his audience by often advising them to purchase gold in advance of the potential collapse of the value of the dollar on the world currency market, without disclosing that he is in fact a "paid spokesman" for Goldline. Beck's on-air promotion of gold, which includes advising viewers to construct "fruit cellars" and to rely on a "three G system" of "God, Gold, and Guns" in the event of America's collapse, dates back to his time as a host for CNN Headline News.

Glenn Beck also regularly talks up gold on his nationally syndicated radio show, where he often endorses Goldline during live commercial segments. Additionally, Beck has had the company's CEO on as a guest. Advertisements for Goldline are also featured prominently on Beck's own website, where he recently promoted gold in an audio clip warning of an apocalyptic future:

When the system eventually collapses, and the government comes with guns and confiscates, you know, everything in your home and all your possessions, and then you fight off the raving mad cannibalistic crowds that Ted Turner talked about, don't come crying to me. I told you: get gold.
 
Back in October, the liberal media company Air America made this video mocking the conflict of interest:
 

 

Beck's promotion of gold presents a potential problem for Fox News, which strictly prohibits on-air personalities from making paid product endorsements. When contacted by Daily Finance for a comment on the matter, Fox News senior vice-president for development Joel Cheatwood said the network "makes an exception for its commentators who are also radio hosts," adding that they knew upfront that hiring Beck came with the understanding that he was also a radio host and that they "had to be accepting of certain elements of that." Nevertheless, a Fox spokeswoman said that the company is addressing the matter with Beck's agent, George Hiltzik.

However, Beck, who responded to the conflict of interest allegations on his show last Thursday by saying "So I shouldn't make money?", isn't devoid of defenders on the matter. Business Insider called the controversy "nonsense," adding "there's nothing wrong with a commentator advising viewers, listeners, or readers to take positions that he is taking himself. In fact, you might wonder about the motivations of someone giving financial advice he wouldn't take himself."

In Beck's defense, some have also noted that the price of gold has spiked since he started at Fox News. Nevertheless, you can probably bet that any and all future Jon Stewart impressions of Beck will include numerous references to the virtues of gold.
Title: Re: Glenn Beck's gold-gate problem
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 20, 2009, 10:03:34 PM
they've been doing this forever on the radio.  These companies approach shows who they think the advertising would be most appealing to listeners.  So you end up hearing these ads on the doom and gloom shows.  I can't remember a time when it wasn't so. 
Title: Re: Glenn Beck's gold-gate problem
Post by: 24KT on December 21, 2009, 03:54:22 AM
As far as I'm concerned, ...it's a non-issue, ...especially when the man is speaking truth.

yecht! Did I actually say Glenn Beck has spoken something truthful?!  :o I'm gonna go throw up now.  :-X
Title: Re: Glenn Beck's gold-gate problem
Post by: BM OUT on December 21, 2009, 11:17:45 AM
The most amusing thing about the article was the referance to Air America running a video mocking it.Wow,I bet close to fifteen people saw that brilliant piece of satire.
Title: Re: Glenn Beck's gold-gate problem
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 10, 2010, 01:59:09 PM
BUMP


Title: Re: Glenn Beck's gold-gate problem
Post by: 24KT on November 10, 2010, 02:09:09 PM
Gee Thanks for bumping this old thread 333. I always hate it when you do that, but not this time.
As we can clearly see, my interest in and belief in the acquisition of precious metals goes back at least a year based on the time stamp of my post a few posts up, while my name change only occurred 25 days ago. I think that refutes BeserkFury's claim, I only became interested in gold since my name change.
Title: Re: Glenn Beck's gold-gate problem
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 10, 2010, 02:11:14 PM
I did this to show Beck, who was trashed at the time by Anthony Weiner, has come out looking good on this. 

We are now a year after this and if you invested with goldline , you did very well.  Beck, hawked gold when it was 700 an ounze as did celente.   
Title: Re: Glenn Beck's gold-gate problem
Post by: Arnold jr on November 10, 2010, 02:23:04 PM
I did this to show Beck, who was trashed at the time by Anthony Weiner, has come out looking good on this. 

We are now a year after this and if you invested with goldline , you did very well.  Beck, hawked gold when it was 700 an ounze as did celente.   

And now we're at $1,400 per ounce or there about.

Beck was talking about this issue the other day on his TV show, he brought up the controversy and said he didn't care where you buy gold from, if you're looking for an insurance policy on your finances, gold was a good safe bet right now. He said gold line was a good company to use to buy your gold but all that really matters is the buying of gold itself.

So yep, really a non-issue here. 
Title: Re: Glenn Beck's gold-gate problem
Post by: 225for70 on November 10, 2010, 02:36:11 PM
And now we're at $1,400 per ounce or there about.

Beck was talking about this issue the other day on his TV show, he brought up the controversy and said he didn't care where you buy gold from, if you're looking for an insurance policy on your finances, gold was a good safe bet right now. He said gold line was a good company to use to buy your gold but all that really matters is the buying of gold itself.

So yep, really a non-issue here. 

Excuse me sir...Beck isn't aware of KB gold..he wouldn't recommend you buy gold from an intermediary that like..
Title: Re: Glenn Beck's gold-gate problem
Post by: 2ND COMING on November 10, 2010, 04:26:15 PM
I did this to show Beck, who was trashed at the time by Anthony Weiner, has come out looking good on this. 

We are now a year after this and if you invested with goldline , you did very well.  Beck, hawked gold when it was 700 an ounze as did celente.   

are you sure it was 700$ an ounce at the time?

seemed like it was closer to 1k
Title: Re: Glenn Beck's gold-gate problem
Post by: 24KT on November 10, 2010, 07:16:00 PM
I did this to show Beck, who was trashed at the time by Anthony Weiner, has come out looking good on this. 

We are now a year after this and if you invested with goldline , you did very well.  Beck, hawked gold when it was 700 an ounze as did celente.   

Only if you bought bullion and held it.
If you were suckered into getting numismatic coins and tried to sell back to gold line... the buy back was a biyotch!
Title: Re: Glenn Beck's gold-gate problem
Post by: 24KT on November 10, 2010, 07:20:21 PM
Excuse me sir...Beck isn't aware of KB gold..he wouldn't recommend you buy gold from an intermediary that like..


KB is NOT an intermediary, they are direct to the consumer.

They own the gold mines, the refinery, the mint AND the distribution model.
What KB is doing is actually eliminating all the intermediaries and middle men.

225for70, I know you think this is funny, but there's nothing funny about spewing false information about a company you know nothing about. Especially at a time like this. PLEASE STOP IT!
Title: Re: Glenn Beck's gold-gate problem
Post by: Fury on November 10, 2010, 07:39:37 PM
KB is NOT an intermediary, they are direct to the consumer.

They own the gold mines, the refinery, the mint AND the distribution model.
What KB is doing is actually eliminating all the intermediaries and middle men.

225for70, I know you think this is funny, but there's nothing funny about spewing false information about a company you know nothing about. Especially at a time like this. PLEASE STOP IT!

He's not spewing anything false. You are in bed with a chop shop.

And to top it off, you're blatantly advertising with your little quips about buying bullion (which your company happens to be selling) instead of coins/bars. Fuck you.
Title: Re: Glenn Beck's gold-gate problem
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 10, 2010, 07:44:27 PM
He's not spewing anything false, you conniving c*nt. You are in bed with a chop shop.

And to top it off, you're blatantly advertising with your little quips about buying bullion (which your company happens to be selling) instead of coins/bars. Fuck you.

ha ha ha  ha
Title: Re: Glenn Beck's gold-gate problem
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 10, 2010, 08:45:57 PM
it's clear what jag is doing,  no way she sides with beck unless it has dollar signs for her.  she was probably setting up her new scam when this was first posted.  for her to say this validates her because her name change didn't go through till later is just funny as shit.
Title: Re: Glenn Beck's gold-gate problem
Post by: Skip8282 on November 10, 2010, 09:33:01 PM
He's not spewing anything false. You are in bed with a chop shop.

And to top it off, you're blatantly advertising with your little quips about buying bullion (which your company happens to be selling) instead of coins/bars. Fuck you.


:D

Damn, Jag/24KT/Samson outed....AGAIN!  I guess pimping gas caps is no longer hip, haha.
Title: Re: Glenn Beck's gold-gate problem
Post by: 24KT on November 11, 2010, 01:34:28 AM
He's not spewing anything false. You are in bed with a chop shop.

And to top it off, you're blatantly advertising with your little quips about buying bullion (which your company happens to be selling) instead of coins/bars. Fuck you.  

I'm not sure quite how to break this to you, gold bars & gold coins ARE different forms of bullion.

Can I help it if I'm in touch with the pulse of what's happening, and what is about to happen?

If you guys have a problem, take it up with 225for70. He's the one who brought it up not me.

BerserkFury, I don't think you would know advertising even if it jumped up and bit you in the crotch.
Title: Re: Glenn Beck's gold-gate problem
Post by: loco on November 11, 2010, 04:20:54 PM
it's clear what jag is doing,  no way she sides with beck unless it has dollar signs for her.  she was probably setting up her new scam when this was first posted.  for her to say this validates her because her name change didn't go through till later is just funny as shit.

Surprised Ron allows this.
Title: Re: Glenn Beck's gold-gate problem
Post by: 24KT on November 12, 2010, 01:33:04 AM
it's clear what jag is doing,  no way she sides with beck unless it has dollar signs for her.  she was probably setting up her new scam when this was first posted.  for her to say this validates her because her name change didn't go through till later is just funny as shit.

Hahaha  Do you really think I could have been setting up a name change 12 months ago?
Trust me, I'm not the most patient woman on the planet, and waiting 12 months just ain't in me.

Other than the accusation of being Samson, that's one of the wildest stretches of imagination you've made.

The fact remain, I wasn't going to mention KB here at all. It's not even launched in North America yet.
It was 225for70 who brought it up.
Title: Re: Glenn Beck's gold-gate problem
Post by: 225for70 on November 12, 2010, 10:46:53 AM
Hahaha  Do you really think I could have been setting up a name change 12 months ago?
Trust me, I'm not the most patient woman on the planet, and waiting 12 months just ain't in me.

Other than the accusation of being Samson, that's one of the wildest stretches of imagination you've made.

The fact remain, I wasn't going to mention KB here at all. It's not even launched in North America yet.
It was 225for70 who brought it up.


http://www.wealthcreationtrends.com/
 ::)
Title: Re: Glenn Beck's gold-gate problem
Post by: kcballer on November 12, 2010, 10:53:06 AM
Everyone is looking for a quick buck.  Problem is Jag is buying the wrong resource.  Gold is a bubble, will not replace the US dollar and will continue to be pumped and sold to the masses as the 'solution' for your investments.   ::)
Title: Re: Glenn Beck's gold-gate problem
Post by: BM OUT on November 12, 2010, 12:01:10 PM
Lets see,Beck told people to buy gold it was 700 bucks an ounce.Its now at 1400.You doubled your money based on his advise.Obama promised that his trillion dollar stimulus bill would keep UE under 8% ,its at 9.6%.Who has more credibility again?
Title: Re: Glenn Beck's gold-gate problem
Post by: kcballer on November 12, 2010, 01:15:33 PM
Lets see,Beck told people to buy gold it was 700 bucks an ounce.Its now at 1400.You doubled your money based on his advise.Obama promised that his trillion dollar stimulus bill would keep UE under 8% ,its at 9.6%.Who has more credibility again?

Seriously Billy that's a retarded analogy. 
Title: Re: Glenn Beck's gold-gate problem
Post by: Skip8282 on November 12, 2010, 01:53:52 PM

http://www.wealthcreationtrends.com/
 ::)




LOLOLOLOLOL...one of the best posts ever!

Get to hear Jag's voice?  "so how can you lose?", hahahaha.

What a fucking tool.
Title: Re: Glenn Beck's gold-gate problem
Post by: 24KT on November 12, 2010, 05:16:27 PM

http://www.wealthcreationtrends.com/
 ::)


Now why is it that others are allowed to post links to my website in this forum,
...but I am screamed at if I do?

Samson, haven't you yet figured it out?

The no-trolling, no baseless attacks, no racism, no off-topic, no baiting, etc rules go out the window if it's done to people the moderator doesn't like. Then it's open season.

...and certain people call ME a hypocrite?  ::)
Title: Re: Glenn Beck's gold-gate problem
Post by: 24KT on November 12, 2010, 05:21:41 PM


LOLOLOLOLOL...one of the best posts ever!

Get to hear Jag's voice?  "so how can you lose?", hahahaha.

What a fucking tool.

You don't like my voice?  :-[  :'(

...I admit I had a bit of a frog in my throat and my mouth was rather dry when I recorded that,
...but it's pretty close to what I normally sound like. Oh well, ...at least it's not grating like Gilbert Gottfried.  ;D
Title: Re: Glenn Beck's gold-gate problem
Post by: Dos Equis on November 12, 2010, 06:17:40 PM
Oh good grief.   ::)
Title: Re: Glenn Beck's gold-gate problem
Post by: 24KT on November 12, 2010, 07:44:30 PM
Oh good grief.   ::)

 :o  You'd take Gilbert Gottfried's voice over mine? ??? Oh that hurts.  :'(
Title: Re: Glenn Beck's gold-gate problem
Post by: Dos Equis on November 12, 2010, 07:51:40 PM
:o  You'd take Gilbert Gottfried's voice over mine? ??? Oh that hurts.  :'(

He's much funnier. 
Title: Re: Glenn Beck's gold-gate problem
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 12, 2010, 07:54:08 PM
Now why is it that others are allowed to post links to my website in this forum,
...but I am screamed at if I do?

...and certain people call ME a hypocrite?  ::)
other people are not selling stuff Jag.  We were all ok with GW posting links to his blog and stuff like that, but he would have gotten mocked if the blog was a money scam.
Title: Re: Glenn Beck's gold-gate problem
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 12, 2010, 08:01:04 PM
I listened to that a while back, I doubt that's Jag's voice. 

Since she's on to a new scam and will continue to use every opportunity to talk about gold from now on, can we at least limit her to doing it in one thread?  I don't want to see gold brought up in every thread about the economy or everytime gold is legitimately brought up, have her start talking about gold.  IMO, we should just delete or send every mention of gold from her to the business board.
Title: Re: Glenn Beck's gold-gate problem
Post by: 24KT on November 12, 2010, 10:36:24 PM
I listened to that a while back, I doubt that's Jag's voice. 

Call me up and see whether it is me or not.

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Since she's on to a new scam and will continue to use every opportunity to talk about gold from now on, can we at least limit her to doing it in one thread?  I don't want to see gold brought up in every thread about the economy or everytime gold is legitimately brought up, have her start talking about gold.  IMO, we should just delete or send every mention of gold from her to the business board.

That is a ridiculous, hypocritical, unfair and obviously biased suggestion.
Title: Re: Glenn Beck's gold-gate problem
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 12, 2010, 10:43:32 PM
Call me up and see whether it is me or not.

That is a ridiculous, hypocritical, unfair and obviously biased suggestion.
You lost your hypocritical card.  On the other, cry all you want.  We'll see what others want to happen.  You've been gold this and gold that ever since you found a new scam.  Be glad I'm seeing what the other mods and other people posting here want.  If it was up to me, I would have canned it ASAP.
Title: Re: Glenn Beck's gold-gate problem
Post by: 24KT on November 12, 2010, 10:58:05 PM
You lost your hypocritical card.  On the other, cry all you want.  We'll see what others want to happen.  You've been gold this and gold that ever since you found a new scam.  Be glad I'm seeing what the other mods and other people posting here want.  If it was up to me, I would have canned it ASAP.

I talk about gold only when it is appropriate. Whether you like it or not, GOLD is in the news and is a current and trending topic all over the world.

This thread wasn't started by me, it was started by 225for70.

I have kept my mouth shut about my business here, ...didn't even have a website in my sig line either.
It was someone else who brought it up forcing me to have to say something, and to include the sig.
Your problem is with 225for70 who started this.
Title: Re: Glenn Beck's gold-gate problem
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 12, 2010, 11:07:41 PM
I talk about gold only when it is appropriate. Whether you like it or not, GOLD is in the news and is a current and trending topic all over the world.

This thread wasn't started by me, it was started by 225for70.

I have kept my mouth shut about my business here, ...didn't even have a website in my sig line either.
It was someone else who brought it up forcing me to have to say something, and to include the sig.
Your problem is with 225for70 who started this.
yea, I remember when you talked about gas/oil only when it was "appropriate..." Which was at every available opportunity and with every suggestive cue you though you could pull off without the post being deleted.  Is there some reason I should believe you're not going to do the same with gold?  It seems a win/win for you.  There are so many more opportunities in a time like this to talk about gold than there ever was to talk about gas.  You probably saw the beck issue months ago and thought, "BRILLIANT!"

LOL at being forced to include the sig...  haha...  I can see how you had your hands tied on that ::)
Title: Re: Glenn Beck's gold-gate problem
Post by: 24KT on November 13, 2010, 12:06:22 AM
yea, I remember when you talked about gas/oil only when it was "appropriate..." Which was at every available opportunity and with every suggestive cue you though you could pull off without the post being deleted.  Is there some reason I should believe you're not going to do the same with gold?  It seems a win/win for you.  There are so many more opportunities in a time like this to talk about gold than there ever was to talk about gas.

Yes there are. And the fact that I haven't should speak volumes. People can buy gold or silver anywhere. They don't have to use my source. Of course I would prefer it if they did, but there are plenty of other sources out there. The dry fuel catalysts (caps & crumbs) as far as I knew, were only available from one source. 

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You probably saw the beck issue months ago and thought, "BRILLIANT!"

You credit me with far more patience than I am capable of.  ;D
Had I been so scheming as you described, it would have been ME bumping this thread and not 333,
...or are you now going to accuse me of being him too?  ;D

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LOL at being forced to include the sig...  haha...  I can see how you had your hands tied on that ::)

I only added it after 225for70 started his trolling & baiting. People can now click my sig to get the facts.